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Than
2014-06-05, 12:09 AM
I am no longer sure how this came to be but I wanted to make a character that would make a DM fling books. So I made a Planar Shepherd. Changed it to from Fernia to Lamannia when I noticed Noble Djinn have full wish. Bypasses fire immune enemies and there's a bigger wildshape list. The I made him a friend. Then another friend. Now there's 10 (11 with the Basketweaver) in the party now and I'm not sure what else to make.

(Levels not necessarily in this order)

Dragonwrought Kobold Druid 8 / Planar Shepherd 10 / Warshaper 2.

Human Wizard 5 / Incantatrix 10 / War Weaver 4 / Archmage 1.

Dragonwrought Kobold Rogue 3 / Swashbuckler 14 / Unarmed Swordsage 2 / Barbarian 1. Four unarmed, six claws, and a tail slap. 11d6 sneak attack. Definately needs to flank though.

Half-Elf Crusader 8 / Warblade 2 / Eternal Blade 10. Heavy in the White Raven department.

Elan Psychic Warrior 8 / Illithid Slayer 10 / Warshaper 2. Based on the King of Smack build. Everything but Sharn metamorphosis cheese. Six claws, four tentacles, and a bite.

Elan Spell-to-Power Erudite 10 / Mindbender 1 / Thrallherd 9. Recharge trick and has enough power to dominate some huge dragons. Still needs a 17th level thrall.

Silverbrow Human Bard 10 / Virtuoso 8 / Sublime Chord 2. 9th level casting. Inspires courage (or Dragonfire) of something like +8 (8d6). Oh yeah, Dragon Cohort.

Gnome Illusionist 5 / Shadowcraft Mage 5 / Shadowcrafter 10. Based on the "Killer Gnome" build that I can no longer seem to find a link for online.

Human Cleric 3 / Church Inquisitor 6 / Divine Oracle 10 / Contemplative 1. She actually did expect the Spanish Inquisition.

Human Focused Specialist Conjurer 5 / Malconvoker 9 / Fatespinner 4 / Archmage 2.

TLDR; I was hoping the local Giants would have some further ideas. Trying to avoid going full evil. Also, I think if these will ever get played together I'll have the be book flinging DM. I was also considering the Pathfinder Core rulebook.

EDIT: Put the war weaver levels back.

kardar233
2014-06-05, 12:17 AM
Why do you only have one level of War Weaver? You can only put spells of level equal to or less than your War Weaver class level into your Eldritch Tapestry, so you can only give out Mage Armour and Shield, or similar.

If you want to cheese out War Weaver, dip into Spellguard of Silverymoon and take one of the feats or ACFs that attaches a healing effect rider to your buff spells so you can put Personal-range spells into your tapestry, and then go Legacy Champion to boost your maximum spell level for the Eldritch Tapestry up. With Sanctum Spell and some Dragonwrought Kobold cheese, you might be able to share Shapechange this way.

Than
2014-06-05, 12:53 AM
Oh yes, that's why I had more levels of War Weaver before I fiddled with it. I looked at spellguard but didn't like the fluff. Could you give an example of one of these ACFs or feats to attach healing? I cannot think of any.

Elderand
2014-06-05, 02:17 AM
Look like something combining warshaper and soul drinker is in order.

kardar233
2014-06-05, 03:28 AM
Oh yes, that's why I had more levels of War Weaver before I fiddled with it. I looked at spellguard but didn't like the fluff. Could you give an example of one of these ACFs or feats to attach healing? I cannot think of any.

The only one I can think of offhand is the Deity's Favor ACF for Favoured Souls from PHBII, though there may be others. If you're not using Spellguard then it's irrelevant though, as the point of getting healing attached to your spells is to qualify them for the class's Spellguard ability (which only works on spells giving save bonuses, AC bonuses or healing) and then to put them in your Tapestry.

Than
2014-06-05, 03:29 AM
I'm not aware of any class called Souldrinker. I do have a saved build for a somewhat nasty Soul Eater, but the "Alignment: any evil" might not last long in a party where the bard has a gold dragon cohort. I suppose the thrallherd could always keep it dominated... Is there a limit to the number of things you can keep dominated? He can pump up the save to DC31 without Overchannel or any form of magic item equipped.

I forgot to put this in the original post. The bard has the feat Dragon Cohort which turns out to be a Young Gold Dragon. I rolled some dice to see if the thrallherd could beat the SR and Will save of a red dragon and was pleased to see he could get a Mature Adult Red.

I think I'll have Kord, the Magical (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?195049-Help-Me-Be-Annoying-with-a-Barbarian-Wizard) be the Thrall.

Max of 17 levels. Barbarian 6 / War Hulk 6 / Frenzied Berserker 5. Still have two feats left (3 if human). Perhaps Shock Trooper? Improved Power Attack Shock Trooper going all out would be -11 BAB and +33 damage. Rolled stats and he's got 32 strength. Three Mountains feat would be DC29. Hmmm.