SpawnOfMorbo
2014-06-05, 09:25 AM
So this came up on another thread about changes to pathfinder and I wanted to get some ideas for more keywords.
A Keyword should have roughly the power of a feat but a bit more flexible. These keywords will replace feats and if a keyword gives you a similar ability will work as that feat for prerequisites.
Base Rule
Weapon Training (Ex)
At level 1 each Non-Caster and Partial-Caster class may select a weapon training from the following list. Whenever using a weapon that they are proficient with they may add this Weapon Training to that weapon.
For every 4 BAB a Non-Caster gains they get one additional weapon training. Monk levels count as full BAB when determining this number.
For every 5 BAB a Partial-Caster (such as a paladin, ranger, or bard) gains a weapon training.
Subtract any full caster level from your BAB when you determine when you may select new weapon trainings.
Base weapon damage has changed to the following. For non- proficiency ou no longer take a penalty to attack rolls but a penalty to damage dice.
Proficient Weapon: 1d10 base damage
Non-Proficient Weapon: 1d6 base damage
Special: Fighters and Monks may replace any bonus feat with a weapon training.
End Base Ruls
So weapons should only be as strong as the person holding them. A Rogue with a dagger should be as damaging (dangerous) as a barbarian with a greataxe... Before class features are encolved that give bonuses to damage and such (rage/sneak attack).
Proficient Weapon: 1d10 base damage
Non-Proficient Weapon: 1d6 base damage
Weapons will each have a damage type (piercing/slashing/bludgeoning) and one free weapon training Keyword.
Example Weapon
Dagger
Type: Piercing
Free Weapon Keyword: X
Additional Keywords: By PC.
Critical modifiers will be worked on and reassigned based on weapon. Critical hits may be reworked for my games.
Weapon Training Keywords
Reach: As a free action you may increase your reach by 5ft by lunging forward during the strike or extending the weapon.
Ranged: You may throw this weapon up to 30 feet. You may use your dexterity modifier for the attack roll or your strength. You deal normal damage to a creature on a hit. At level 8 you may ricochette the weapon off the target and back to you (free action). At level 16 your range increases to 60 feet.
Launching (Special): Bows, Crossbows, and other launching weapons are launching weapons. They have a range of 100 feet but deal one die step down. However launching weapons ignore all DR except for alignment bases. Dexterity (Modifier for first shot, 1/2 modifier for additiinal shots each turn for damage) is used for attack and damage.
Bows: At level 8 the range becomes 150 feet. At level 16 the range becomes 300
Crossbows: At level 8 you deal additional damage equal to your minimum damage. At level 16 your critical multiplier becomes x6. This doesn't stack with any weapon training that increases critical multipliers.
Charging: When you charge with a weapon it deals additional damage equal to your minimum damage with the weapon.
Anti-Charging: When you hit a creature that charged since the end of your last turn you deal additional Damage equal to the minimum damage you normally would deal with this weapon.
Brutal 1: Anytime you roll a 1 on your damage die it counts as if you rolled a 2. This increases your minimum damage for other abilities. At level 8 this increases to Brutal 2. At level 16 this increases to Brutal 3.
Maneuver: Treat your size as one larger when performing a combat maneuver. When you are 8th level you count as 2 sizes larger, at 16th level you count as three sizes larger.
Piercing/Slashing/Bludgeoning: Weapon deals this kind of damage. All weapons gain this property but it may be switched depending on how the weapon is used. Some weapons (one without a point) would not be able to deal piecing etc. Adding this keyword to a slashing sword weapon allows you to hit with the broad of your sword or even the hilt to deal bludgeoning damage or if you choose piercing it allows you to thrust the tip I to an enemy to count as piercing damage. You may add this multiple times, it doesn't stack but each attack you may as a free action change the damage type.
High Crit: Increase critical multiplier by 1. At level 8 this increase to +2. At level 16 this increases to +3
Two Weapon Fighting: Each time you have a weapon attack, make two attack rolls. If you hit with the second weapon it deals minimum damage. At level 8 you gain a +4 to AC/Touch AC. At level 16 the bonus to AC/Touch AC is +8. You gain this bonus each round until the end of your next turn that you used two weapon fighting.
Power Attack: When wielding this weapon in one hand you deal 1-1/2 x Str mod damage. When wielding this weapon in two hands you add 2x Str mod to damage rolls. At level 8 count your strength score as 4 higher for this extra damage. At level 16 count your strength score as 6 higher for this extra damage.
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Feats
Weapon Specialization:
Prerequisites: BAB +2
When you take this feat, select one weapon (it takes 30 minutes to retrain to another weapon). Increase the base damage by one step (1d10 becomes 2d6) and gain a +1 bonus to hit. This feat doesn't stack with itself, each time you choose this feat you must select a new weapon. At level 8 you gain a +3 to hit. At level 16 you gain a +5 to hit. The to hit bonus does not stack with itself only take the highest bonus from this feat.
Reserve Training
Prerequisites: BAB +3
Benefit: By spending 1 hour training you may switch out your weapon keyword for another.
At level 8 this training time takes 15 minutes.
At level 16 this training takes a Full Round Action.
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So a level 1 Fighter with weapon focus (sickle) can select 1 keyword to add to his weapon attacks.
Sickle: 2d6 + Str Mod Damage
Weapon type: Slashing
Keywords: Power Attack
So his attack would be 1d20 + BAB + Str (+4) + 1
His damage would be 2d6 + 1-1/2 Str (6) slashing damage. Minimum damage: 8
Maximum damage: 18
At level (or BAB?) 4, 8, 12, 16, 18, and 20 non-casters gain another weapon training keyword that they can add to the weapons.
The beauty is that if you keep all HP for monster the same, you can speed up combat (yes 3.P combat can be just as slow as 4e... I've had 3 PC fights last an hour in both editions). But he could grab the one handed weapon in two hands to up his damage, grab another weapon, he could grab a shield, or he could keep it bare so that he can use other items or potions. These other options aren't as painful to a person wanting go a different route since their damage output won't suffer. Heck a Monk could choose a maneuver Keyword for his fists and be better at grappling or tripping while retaining his own ability to deal damage.
I need to update these and add in a table with example weapons. There will be no "simple" "light" or "exotic" weapons, just what each class is proficient with and what they are not. This cuts down on repetitive weapons. Also there can be rules for creating your own weapon.
A Keyword should have roughly the power of a feat but a bit more flexible. These keywords will replace feats and if a keyword gives you a similar ability will work as that feat for prerequisites.
Base Rule
Weapon Training (Ex)
At level 1 each Non-Caster and Partial-Caster class may select a weapon training from the following list. Whenever using a weapon that they are proficient with they may add this Weapon Training to that weapon.
For every 4 BAB a Non-Caster gains they get one additional weapon training. Monk levels count as full BAB when determining this number.
For every 5 BAB a Partial-Caster (such as a paladin, ranger, or bard) gains a weapon training.
Subtract any full caster level from your BAB when you determine when you may select new weapon trainings.
Base weapon damage has changed to the following. For non- proficiency ou no longer take a penalty to attack rolls but a penalty to damage dice.
Proficient Weapon: 1d10 base damage
Non-Proficient Weapon: 1d6 base damage
Special: Fighters and Monks may replace any bonus feat with a weapon training.
End Base Ruls
So weapons should only be as strong as the person holding them. A Rogue with a dagger should be as damaging (dangerous) as a barbarian with a greataxe... Before class features are encolved that give bonuses to damage and such (rage/sneak attack).
Proficient Weapon: 1d10 base damage
Non-Proficient Weapon: 1d6 base damage
Weapons will each have a damage type (piercing/slashing/bludgeoning) and one free weapon training Keyword.
Example Weapon
Dagger
Type: Piercing
Free Weapon Keyword: X
Additional Keywords: By PC.
Critical modifiers will be worked on and reassigned based on weapon. Critical hits may be reworked for my games.
Weapon Training Keywords
Reach: As a free action you may increase your reach by 5ft by lunging forward during the strike or extending the weapon.
Ranged: You may throw this weapon up to 30 feet. You may use your dexterity modifier for the attack roll or your strength. You deal normal damage to a creature on a hit. At level 8 you may ricochette the weapon off the target and back to you (free action). At level 16 your range increases to 60 feet.
Launching (Special): Bows, Crossbows, and other launching weapons are launching weapons. They have a range of 100 feet but deal one die step down. However launching weapons ignore all DR except for alignment bases. Dexterity (Modifier for first shot, 1/2 modifier for additiinal shots each turn for damage) is used for attack and damage.
Bows: At level 8 the range becomes 150 feet. At level 16 the range becomes 300
Crossbows: At level 8 you deal additional damage equal to your minimum damage. At level 16 your critical multiplier becomes x6. This doesn't stack with any weapon training that increases critical multipliers.
Charging: When you charge with a weapon it deals additional damage equal to your minimum damage with the weapon.
Anti-Charging: When you hit a creature that charged since the end of your last turn you deal additional Damage equal to the minimum damage you normally would deal with this weapon.
Brutal 1: Anytime you roll a 1 on your damage die it counts as if you rolled a 2. This increases your minimum damage for other abilities. At level 8 this increases to Brutal 2. At level 16 this increases to Brutal 3.
Maneuver: Treat your size as one larger when performing a combat maneuver. When you are 8th level you count as 2 sizes larger, at 16th level you count as three sizes larger.
Piercing/Slashing/Bludgeoning: Weapon deals this kind of damage. All weapons gain this property but it may be switched depending on how the weapon is used. Some weapons (one without a point) would not be able to deal piecing etc. Adding this keyword to a slashing sword weapon allows you to hit with the broad of your sword or even the hilt to deal bludgeoning damage or if you choose piercing it allows you to thrust the tip I to an enemy to count as piercing damage. You may add this multiple times, it doesn't stack but each attack you may as a free action change the damage type.
High Crit: Increase critical multiplier by 1. At level 8 this increase to +2. At level 16 this increases to +3
Two Weapon Fighting: Each time you have a weapon attack, make two attack rolls. If you hit with the second weapon it deals minimum damage. At level 8 you gain a +4 to AC/Touch AC. At level 16 the bonus to AC/Touch AC is +8. You gain this bonus each round until the end of your next turn that you used two weapon fighting.
Power Attack: When wielding this weapon in one hand you deal 1-1/2 x Str mod damage. When wielding this weapon in two hands you add 2x Str mod to damage rolls. At level 8 count your strength score as 4 higher for this extra damage. At level 16 count your strength score as 6 higher for this extra damage.
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Feats
Weapon Specialization:
Prerequisites: BAB +2
When you take this feat, select one weapon (it takes 30 minutes to retrain to another weapon). Increase the base damage by one step (1d10 becomes 2d6) and gain a +1 bonus to hit. This feat doesn't stack with itself, each time you choose this feat you must select a new weapon. At level 8 you gain a +3 to hit. At level 16 you gain a +5 to hit. The to hit bonus does not stack with itself only take the highest bonus from this feat.
Reserve Training
Prerequisites: BAB +3
Benefit: By spending 1 hour training you may switch out your weapon keyword for another.
At level 8 this training time takes 15 minutes.
At level 16 this training takes a Full Round Action.
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So a level 1 Fighter with weapon focus (sickle) can select 1 keyword to add to his weapon attacks.
Sickle: 2d6 + Str Mod Damage
Weapon type: Slashing
Keywords: Power Attack
So his attack would be 1d20 + BAB + Str (+4) + 1
His damage would be 2d6 + 1-1/2 Str (6) slashing damage. Minimum damage: 8
Maximum damage: 18
At level (or BAB?) 4, 8, 12, 16, 18, and 20 non-casters gain another weapon training keyword that they can add to the weapons.
The beauty is that if you keep all HP for monster the same, you can speed up combat (yes 3.P combat can be just as slow as 4e... I've had 3 PC fights last an hour in both editions). But he could grab the one handed weapon in two hands to up his damage, grab another weapon, he could grab a shield, or he could keep it bare so that he can use other items or potions. These other options aren't as painful to a person wanting go a different route since their damage output won't suffer. Heck a Monk could choose a maneuver Keyword for his fists and be better at grappling or tripping while retaining his own ability to deal damage.
I need to update these and add in a table with example weapons. There will be no "simple" "light" or "exotic" weapons, just what each class is proficient with and what they are not. This cuts down on repetitive weapons. Also there can be rules for creating your own weapon.