Speedy monsters

[molten_dragon]

I've got two semi-related questions.

1. Which monster has the fastest speed for each movement type (land, fly, swim, burrow, climb)? I'm not talking about builds with magic items and class levels, just which monster has the fastest listed speed for each type.

And 2, are there any monsters which have all 5 movement types?

[RFLS]

For Fly speed, I believe Mercury dragons are up there, if not the fastest.

As far as number of movement modes goes, the most I can think of would be white dragons (everything but a climb speed).

[molten_dragon]

Looking at them, Mercury dragons look like that are on par with Gold dragons at 250 ft fly.

I opened up the epic level handbook and found Phaethons at 120 ft. burrow speed and Elder titans at 150 ft. land speed. Prismatic and force dragons get up to a fly speed of 350 feet. Primal water elementals have a swim of 90 ft.

Anyone know of anything faster than these?

[weckar]

That's.... Surprisingly slow. So the top flying speed of a dragon can be beat by basically any car?

[ShurikVch]

Land Speed:
150 - Elder Titan
140 - Xixecal
120 - Phaethon, Three-Headed Sirrush
100 - Devastation Scorpion, Hecatoncheires, Hunefer, Tayellah

Swim Speed:
120 - Megalodon, Huge/Greater/Elder Water Elemental
100 - Legendary Shark
90 - Leviathan, Teratomorph, Blood Elemental, Juvenile/Adult/Elder Tojanida, Tiny/Small/Medium/Large/Primal Water Elemental
80 - Giant Squid, Ocean Giant, Porpoise

Burrow Speed:
120 - Phaethon
60 - Fiendwurm, Nightcrawler
50 - Linnorm (Corpse Tearer)
40 - Primal Earth Elemental

Climb Speed:
60 - Forest Sloth
50 - Rukarazyll
40 - Girallon, Devastation Spider, Uvuudaum, Medium/Large/Huge/Gargantuan/Colossal Monstrous Centipede

Fly Speed:
350 - Force Dragon (Wyrm/Great wyrm), Prismatic Dragon (Ancient-Great wyrm)
300 - Mercury Dragon (Ancient-Great wyrm), Force Dragon (Young-Ancient), Prismatic Dragon (Young-Very old)
250 - Hellfire Wyrm, Brass Dragon (Wyrm/Great wyrm), White Dragon (Wyrm/Great wyrm), Gold Dragon (Old-Great wyrm), Force Dragon (Wyrmling/Very young), Prismatic Dragon (Wyrmling/Very young)

Brachiation Speed:
40 - Forest Sloth

[weckar]

So only the Elder Titan even comes close to the real life Cheetah? D&D is more interesting by the day.

[Urpriest]

That's.... Surprisingly slow. So the top flying speed of a dragon can be beat by basically any car?


So only the Elder Titan even comes close to the real life Cheetah? D&D is more interesting by the day.

In both cases, remember the Run action.

[Elkad]

So only the Elder Titan even comes close to the real life Cheetah? D&D is more interesting by the day.


Cheetah can do 500 for one round per hour.

[weckar]

I am. But, if I recall (which may be completely wrong), run can't be kept up forever. It would even out to not all that much faster.

EDIT: Well, the higher end creatures apparently CAN keep up a run forever, but if we consider speed in body lengths... My arguments stand.

[otakumick]

Effigy versions should be able to Run forever :)

[Fable Wright]

Pyroclastic Dragons have decent Climb, Burrow, Fly, and Basic Land speeds. All you need for all 5 movement modes is to slap an Aquatic/Amphibious/whathaveyou template on it.

[Slipperychicken]

A CL14 Phantom Steed (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/phantomSteed.htm) generates a "quasi-real horselike creature" which has land speed and fly speed 240ft, and it even can run on water too. It might be the result of a spell, but it is still a creature. When moving normally (240ft), it goes 27.3mph, and Running (240*4 =960ft) lets it hit 109 mph.

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Any colossal quadruped with divine rank (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineRanksAndPowers.htm) has a 180 ft. land speed.

With regards to 'realistic' movement and comparison to cars, airplanes, etc., keep in mind that all of those creatures can run four times faster, or five times faster if it has the Run feat.

[Xaroth]

I am. But, if I recall (which may be completely wrong), run can't be kept up forever. It would even out to not all that much faster.

EDIT: Well, the higher end creatures apparently CAN keep up a run forever, but if we consider speed in body lengths... My arguments stand.

Cars can't stay active forever either.

[nedz]

Dragons don't get stuck in traffic either, and can ignore terrain.

[Xaroth]

Dragons don't get stuck in traffic either, and can ignore terrain.

If anything they'd sit in traffic for a little while, suddenly remember they're a motherf****** dragon and destroy every car in sight.

Instead of honking a car horn, dragons can actually speak and tell you to get out of its way.

Cheaper than a plane, too.

[Slipperychicken]

If anything they'd sit in traffic for a little while, suddenly remember they're a motherf****** dragon and destroy every car in sight.


The real problems come when it's traffic consisting of other dragons.

[Sliver]

A CL14 Phantom Steed (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/phantomSteed.htm) generates a "quasi-real horselike creature" which has land speed and fly speed 240ft, and it even can run on water too. It might be the result of a spell, but it is still a creature. When moving normally (240ft), it goes 27.3mph, and Running (240*4 =960ft) lets it hit 109 mph.

Phantom Stag is faster.

[Xaroth]

The real problems come when it's traffic consisting of other dragons.

http://i.imgur.com/Fe8OFXn.png

[nedz]

But, ..., Dragons get cut up all of the time.

[Xaroth]

But, ..., Dragons get cut up all of the time.

Hm... good point

[weckar]

Honestly, if one cut in front of the other, the attack roll was obviously way too low to hit AC.

[atemu1234]

Running can theoretically be kept up for huge periods of time with a high enough constitution score.

[Vedhin]

Kezef the Chaos Hound can move at the speed of teleportation.

[Xaroth]

Honestly, if one cut in front of the other, the attack roll was obviously way too low to hit AC.

All it can really do at that point is shout and roar at it.