V has 9th lvl spells!!!

[czieg]

I was just re-reading OOTS for the ump-teenth time when I saw this
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0049.html
In panel 6, V offers to trade Zz'dtri a wish spell for a 3.0 fly spell, V is already at least 17th lvl here! I don't know what this will mean for the order unless I missed a retcon at some point.

[Keltest]

Two things

A: that is in Dungeon Crawling Fools, before any sort of long term plot took priority over the joke of the day. Anything from a throwaway joke in that book should be taken with a grain of salt.

B: Whether or not he somehow has a written copy that can be scribed in someone else's spellbook, that does not mean that he is able to actually learn and cast the spell. You should note he also lists a necromancy spell there, which is his other barred school (by process of elimination.)

[ORione]

Vaarsuvius had been flipping through their spellbook earlier, but closed it when suggesting the level-9 spells. I'm pretty sure they were being sarcastic/seeing if there were any spells that Z'zdtri would trade for. V didn't actually have those spells.

[Falbrogna]

I was just re-reading OOTS for the ump-teenth time when I saw this
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0049.html
In panel 6, V offers to trade Zz'dtri a wish spell for a 3.0 fly spell, V is already at least 17th lvl here! I don't know what this will mean for the order unless I missed a retcon at some point.


More like you missed the joke. That offer wasn't serious.

Edit: Keltest too, apparently.

[Quartz]

At best (worst?) it means that V has those spells in his spell book, maybe on a scroll, not that he can cast them.

[Koo Rehtorb]

what will this mean!!!

[Killer Angel]

If you want to be serious, you could apply Occam's razor.
What's more probable?
V. was a 17th level since the beginning, but never used such power, and even made a pact with the fiends, to avoid using that precious wish.
OR
It was a joke.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

More likely that Vaarsuvius was trying to see if there was anything Zz'dtri would trade Fly for. So, it's just a joke. Even if Vaarsuvius does have 9th level spells, they obviously can't use them yet.

[137beth]

If V does indeed have ninth level spells, then he/she has used Programmed Amnesia on all us readers to make us believe otherwise, by erasing our memories of times he/she has cast ninth level spells.
On the other hand, if V doesn't have ninth level spells, V cannot cast Programmed Amnesia.
WHICH ONE IS IT?!? It's the second one.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

If V does indeed have ninth level spells, then he/she has used Programmed Amnesia on all us readers to make us believe otherwise, by erasing our memories of times he/she has cast ninth level spells.
On the other hand, if V doesn't have ninth level spells, V cannot cast Programmed Amnesia.
WHICH ONE IS IT?!? It's the second one.

I don't ever remember Vaarsuvius casting Progamed Amnesia, so... wait. Darn!

[Emperordaniel]

I don't ever remember Vaarsuvius casting Progamed Amnesia, so... wait. Darn!

But if Vaarsuvius had access to Programmed Amnesia, wouldn't s/he have used it to erase our memories of discussing whether or not s/he had access to-

...wait, what was I about to type? I can't remember.

[Yana]

There is no mind control, Citizen. Go back to your fun!

[Jaxzan Proditor]

...wait, what was I about to type? I can't remember.

Why was I on this thread again? Just can't quite place it...

[137beth]

I think if V had Programmed Amnesia, V would have erased our memories of Familicide...

[malloyd]

I think if V had Programmed Amnesia, V would have erased our memories of Familicide...

Girard must have cast an illusion of that happening to cover up what is *really* happening at his gate.

[coineineagh]

9th isn't the spell level you're looking for.:smallcool:

[Fortuna]

There is no mind control, Citizen. Go back to your fun!

Oh, this I haven't seen for there is no mind control. I am going back to my fun.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

I think if V had Programmed Amnesia, V would have erased our memories of Familicide...

What is Familicide? :smallconfused:

[Emperordaniel]

What is Familicide? :smallconfused:

It's that thing where you make cider for the whole family, right? :smallconfused:

[Jaxzan Proditor]

It's that thing where you make cider for the whole family, right? :smallconfused:

I don't know. I'm looking at definitions of "cide" and they don't seem very pleasant. Perhaps it was a misspelling and your idea is correct?

[137beth]

It's that thing where you make cider for the whole family, right? :smallconfused:

That's Familicider, not Familicide.

[John Coake]

That's Familicider, not Familicide.

I thought Familicider was someone who cast Familicide....... MY WHOLE LIFE IS A LIE!!!! It's the Matrix all over again.....

[Glodart]

I thought Familicider was someone who cast Familicide....... MY WHOLE LIFE IS A LIE!!!! It's the Matrix all over again.....

Wait, what's familicide?
Gate?
What Gate?

[Emperordaniel]

Wait, what's familicide?
Gate?
What Gate?

I haven't seen any gates.

What's a 'gate'?

[ORione]

Vaarsuvius can't have Gate; that's a Conjuration spell.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Vaarsuvius can't have Gate; that's a Conjuration spell.

That's what they want you to think.

[137beth]

Vaarsuvius can't have Gate; that's a Conjuration spell.

Not if V used Programmed Amnesia on the DM to make him think that Gate isn't Conjuration!
Wait, what's Programmed Amnesia?

[Emperordaniel]

Not if V used Programmed Amnesia on the DM to make him think that Gate isn't Conjuration!
Wait, what's Programmed Amnesia?

Something to do with computers, I think...