Civ 5 Multiplayer 6: There Can Be Only One. (G&K, BNW) [Archive]

Luzahn

2014-06-13, 06:13 AM

Welcome everybody to the completely-unneeded sixth Civ 5 multiplayer game on the forums.

For this game, instead of the usual earthlike worlds played in the other five matches, I'm looking to play on one of the region maps; specifically, the Highlands script. This is a highly mountainous map with four impassable edges, prone to creating chokepoints and enclosed valleys.

While I'm pretty set on playing Highlands, if enough interested players want to play another enclosed map, I wouldn't see any problem with that other than the ruining of my thread title. :smalltongue: However, there's still room to vote on several world generation options for Highlands itself. Three settings control water and mountain placement:

Mountain Pattern: Ridgelines, Scattered, Ranges, Clustered

Mountain Density: Dense, Normal, Thin

Bodies of Water: Small Lakes, Large Lakes, Seas

Out of these, I would recommend Dense Ridgelines, as it makes for clearer valleys and ranges. I also like Seas for water for the extra layer of impassability, but it might be a tad excessive. :smalltongue:

http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/468686705641515457/28E41FD08B8508C4C10E3EC278D601DA89D949AE/

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/468686705641513258/55D31FB8AA0F040CE60838B5F94E498D34DA03A0/
If I recall correctly, both of those used Seas for the water option as well.

For Civ choice, I would advise not playing a Naval civ, due to the lack of an ocean, but of course anybody's welcome to play one, and would also discourage the Incas, as their unique trait would likely be a bit overpowered on this script. Players-wise, I'm looking for a maximum of eight.

As a last note, I will be playing Siam.

Current Choices:

Luzahn: Siam
OrcusMcP: Aztec
Closet Skeleton: Denmark (DLC)
Driderman: Unknown
Welovefireballs: Maya
Frog Dragon: Arabia
MeatShield: Ethiopia

OrcusMcP

2014-06-13, 06:18 AM

ONCE MORE INTO THE BREACH, DEAR FRIENDS!

While I'm already in two games and am not sure how to get more slots, I could be down for this as Aztec. Dense ridge lines would be fine, and I'd prefer large lakes.

Luzahn

2014-06-13, 06:24 AM

It takes a five dollar donation to GMR to go from two slots to five. Bit of a shame, but it's a good little service.

OrcusMcP

2014-06-13, 07:52 AM

OK, sweet, I'll get that sorted tonight. I'll let anyone who isn't in a game yet in ahead of me, but if you need to fill a slot, I'll be in as Aztec, as noted.

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-13, 08:51 AM

For Civ choice, I would advise not playing a Naval civ, due to the lack of an ocean,

Unless that naval civ is Carthage.

If everyone who signs up for this has the Denmark DLC, I will play as Denmark, suitability be [redacted]

I reckon someone should be allowed to play Incas. Then we let them grow big enough so that they don't feel picked on when everyone joins forces for a bite of their terrace farms.

Luzahn

2014-06-13, 08:53 AM

Well, all the more reason to vote for Seas. Start near a decent one and you can be a pretty ok amphibious force.

I'm not disqualifying the Inca, but I would hope that a newer player took them as a nice sort of equalizer.

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-13, 09:13 AM

Dense ridge lines with seas is insane. Testing it out in the world builder, one corner is accessable only via a hilly pass and two of the others can only be accessed via the water and again one of those is through a one tile gap.

Someone is going to have to play Carthage, just to keep everyone else on their toes.

OrcusMcP

2014-06-13, 09:28 AM

Actually, thinking about it, Polynesia could be potent on this kind of map as well! Harsh chokepoints mean that moais and upgraded maori warriors will give serious combat advantage in those points. But yes, someone should be playing Carthage for wild-card purposes.

If we are going to ban Inca, is there anyway to keep Mt. Kilimanjaro from being in the game as well?

Luzahn

2014-06-13, 12:17 PM

Naah. If we manage to get Kilimanjaro, we'll just have an eternal war to secure it from everybody else. :smalltongue:

Driderman

2014-06-13, 01:24 PM

This sounds too fun to pass up... Is there an achievement for being in all the games? :smalltongue:

WeLoveFireballs

2014-06-13, 06:52 PM

Hey, I'm interested in joining one of these. (I read a decent amount of the first one and it seems too awesome to not give it a try).

I would like to play the great and enduring lord of the Maya, Pacal. Rebuilder of Palanaque and your future president (until 2012 of course). I'm not especially good at the game but I'll give it my best shot!

Frog Dragon

2014-06-13, 07:13 PM

I'll bite, why not. :smallsmile: Never really played any of these more gimmicky maps, and it sounds like it'd be fun to try. Just not with Indonesia. :smalltongue:

I shall be playing Harun Al-Rashid of Arabia.

MeatShield#236

2014-06-13, 10:20 PM

I too would be interested in this, if you have enough room. I've never done any of the non Earth-like maps, so this should be interesting to see.

I (hopefully) shall be Haile Selassie of Ethiopia.

Edit: I do not have the Denmark DLC. Would I still be able to play a game against someone who does have it? Or do I have to get it in order to play? (I'm willing to get it, I'm just curious.)

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-14, 03:22 AM

You would have to buy it or not. Do you have Inca either?

If you could play against DLC Civs without the DLC then they wouldn't be banned all the time.

Luzahn

2014-06-14, 03:37 AM

Denmark's a fun one, but you shouldn't feel compelled to get it. Skeleton, would you be ok with playing something else if Meatshield doesn't wind up purchasing it?

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-14, 06:03 AM

Of course, I could go with anyone. As long as they're not Iberian, that random pick in the second game annoyed me.

Togath

2014-06-14, 06:23 AM

This sounds fun... I'm not really familiar with gmr though(only started civ 5 a few days ago), how do I play?
For nation.. I'll have to think about it a little.
Shoshone perhaps?

Luzahn

2014-06-14, 06:23 AM

Right, I'm generating some invite links for the people who've posted interest. That should be eight now
Links:

OrcusMcP: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/11924?token=082b4e41-6e28-4fa8-85af-59c02bd823fe

Closet Skeleton: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/11924?token=f148ee74-af4f-4382-88d5-622c7675aea0

Driderman: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/11924?token=73f26ab9-a807-4ad4-b7e5-e50565c93b05

WeLoveFireballs: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/11924?token=d7782485-9b25-4fdc-a103-a0f6bf130075

Frog Dragon: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/11924?token=3beefe2e-61ba-4c6d-8668-06553db81692

MeatShield: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/11924?token=a25ce455-62d4-403b-8b84-d5130c270cc9

Togath: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/11924?token=4c4abf05-931c-4114-a883-fe3c6f5d89c0

Togath, would I be right to assume you don't have any of the individual nation DLC? Or did the bundle include those?

Togath

2014-06-14, 06:46 AM

I have all of them.. also, what is that site?
As I said, I haven't a clue how this works.:smallredface:

Luzahn

2014-06-14, 06:49 AM

Ah, that's the client that allows for the turn to pass around.

Togath

2014-06-14, 06:51 AM

Ah, that's the client that allows for the turn to pass around.

How do I use it? I feel silly for having gotten this far, despite not knowing these things.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-14, 06:52 AM

That's the Giant Multiplayer Robot website. You can sign in with your steam account, but it does require its own password so no-one else can play your turns.

There's also the application that actually passes the save around. You'll need to download that but it's pretty simple to use.

Also, video tutorial. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQNczFe5Icc) I thought it was pretty helpful.

Togath

2014-06-14, 07:33 AM

I think I've signed up there now, steam name is "kit".
I'm looking forward to when we start ^w^.

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-14, 07:43 AM

I've put myself down as denmark for now. If that causes problems don't start until I've changed it to Carthage. I'm voting for seas obviously. Maybe cool as well but that might be a bit unfair. Just anything but hot.

For nation.. I'll have to think about it a little.
Shoshone perhaps?

The Shoshone like having lots of space, highlands doesn't give you that, so I'm not sure they're the best choice. On the other hand they are powerful enough to not need to worry too much.

But if you're a complete novice you could be the one we let play Inca (assuming everyone has that DLC)

MeatShield#236

2014-06-14, 07:45 AM

You would have to buy it or not. Do you have Inca either?

If you could play against DLC Civs without the DLC then they wouldn't be banned all the time.

That's... unfortunate. I do not have any of the DLC Civs (I just have the expansions). I hate to ask, but could you play a different civ?

Togath

2014-06-14, 07:46 AM

I've put myself down as denmark for now. If that causes problems don't start until I've changed it.

The Shoshone like having lots of space, highlands doesn't give you that, so I'm not sure they're the best choice. On the other hand they are powerful enough to not need to worry too much.

But if you're a complete novice you could be the one we let play Inca (assuming everyone has that DLC)

If Inca would be an option for me.. Then sure:smallsmile:.
I'm very new(got it with the sale a few days ago), and still learning the game, so I doubt I could abuse them too much.

That's... unfortunate. I do not have any of the DLC Civs (I just have the expansions). I hate to ask, but could you play a different civ?
oh..
Any advice for a vanilla nation for a newbie then?

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-14, 07:47 AM

If Meatshield doesn't have Inca either then they're not an option.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-14, 07:48 AM

The Inca advantage in highlands basically comes down to free roads everywhere and over 9000 bonus food because Terrace Farm kicks ass when there are mountains everywhere.

Togath

2014-06-14, 07:48 AM

If Meatshield doesn't have Inca either then they're not an option.

Aye, I noticed his post after I'd written that.
Any advice for a vanilla nation that might be good for me?

MeatShield#236

2014-06-14, 07:55 AM

Aye, I noticed his post after I'd written that.
Any advice for a vanilla nation that might be good for me?
Is Polynesia a vanilla one?

Hmmm, Poland might be good. Straightforward special ability and some nice uniques with a singular focus (cavalry, nothing but cavalry.) Morocco is also straightforward, just have trade routes to everyone and build as many Kasbas as possible.

Luzahn

2014-06-14, 07:55 AM

Polynesia is a DLC as well, though they would be a questionable choice regardless with the lack of oceans.

And I would still say the Shoshone have a great advantage in Highlands. Hilly terrain is easily passed by the Pathfinders, you'll be able to snatch up a lot of ruins.

For a vanilla civ... Russia has a solid bonus that doesn't require any specialized play, though they're good for playing wide. America is versatile as well, but they're often regarded as a weak civ IIRC. Nothing bad about them, but their bonus is underwhelming.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-14, 07:57 AM

Polynesia is DLC. It is also the essence of awful in highlands, since its UI requires coastline and it's UA relates to naval exploration.

Normally I'd suggest Ethiopia for a beginner because the Stele allows for very strong starts and the civ is particularly good when you're not in a dominant position. However, that one's taken. I understand France is pretty straightforward.

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-14, 08:07 AM

I've gone with Germany.

Aye, I noticed his post after I'd written that.
Any advice for a vanilla nation that might be good for me?

Depends what you want.

Shoshone are good on defence.

Other defensive Civs are Ethiopia (already picked) and Morocco (also good with trade and deserts).

Carthage can walk over mountains but take damage doing so and are mostly naval but you could in theory link seas together with cities and roads to have a good network. Naval Civs that you should not take are Byzantium, Netherlands and Indonesia. Ottomans, Japan, Portugal, Venice and England are naval Civs that can still work but I wouldn't recommend.

Rome, Iroquois and Russia can have very good production.

Mongols, Huns, Celts, Zulu and Assyria are good warmongers. America is a late game war monger and very powerful at that, but for the rest of the game sits around being lame.

France, Brazil and Sweden are very good but advanced Civs I wouldn't recommend to a beginner. Any jungle bias Civ (incl. Brazil and Maya and Aztecs who have been picked by someone else already) is hard to play for a beginner because you always start weak. Austria can do pretty much anything if you combine gardens (need a adjacent lake or river in your city) with their coffee houses to get amazing great people generation.

Poland, Egypt, Spain, China, India, Greece, Songhai are good all rounders if you play to their strengths.

The one piece of advice I need to give you is not to do what screwed over Indonesia in the first game. There are four policy trees available at the start, Liberty is for having lots of cities, Tradition is for growing a large population to make up for having a few cities, Piety is for religion and a bad choice for a beginner because it doesn't give any growth benefits and Tradition is mostly for war but also helps with lots of cities. Indonsia/Qwertystop made the mistake of going Liberty and then not founding more than 3 cities (to a lesser extent France made that mistake too but he's come back a bit).

So if you do pick Liberty, make sure to have more than 4 cities by 0 AD.

WeLoveFireballs

2014-06-14, 08:09 AM

I think I misclicked something and now the invite isn't working, my username is Hero-of-Canton if that helps.

Luzahn

2014-06-14, 08:11 AM

Just invited you via username, I think you can join on the game page now.

Here's another link as well, in case you can't find it.

http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/11924?token=93679361-6e56-4711-9d10-109a34abbc24

WeLoveFireballs

2014-06-14, 08:17 AM

Ok, that worked. Also, the only DLC I have is Korea (besides the expansions) and I won't really be able to get any others for a while.

Posca

2014-06-14, 08:51 AM

Hi everyone. I'm interested in playing if still have place left. I was following other Civ games it seems like fun.

I assume we choose our civs only from the non-DLC ones?

Luzahn

2014-06-14, 08:56 AM

Posca

2014-06-14, 09:09 AM

Well, we're up to the eight players planned now, so you might have to wait on the next one.

Generally anything over eight is too much to keep up a steady pace, but I'll leave it to a vote by the current participants to make a decision on maybe increasing the count to 9.

No worries, If you are full, you are full. I will just follow along all the backstabbing that will surely commence as the game gets going :smallsmile:

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-14, 09:18 AM

I'm sure Driderman will be happy to give up his space since he's in every game already, he suggested more or less that last time he joined one.

Driderman

2014-06-14, 04:59 PM

I'm quite willing to give up the space as Closet Skeleton already mentioned.

Luzahn

2014-06-14, 05:12 PM

I suppose that's fair. I'm going to regret your not being in every game though. :smalltongue:

Togath

2014-06-14, 06:35 PM

I think Morocco sounds fun.
I'm ready once everyone else is then.:smallsmile:

Luzahn

2014-06-14, 08:09 PM

A link for Posca: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/11924?token=12ff05cc-8139-4c84-89cf-18d246bd429a

Posca

2014-06-14, 11:29 PM

Thanks Driderman :smallsmile:

I will be able to use the link once I got home from work which will be in around 10 hours. I'm guessing I'm in the most eastern time zone compared to rest of you guys, if that's a factor in setting up turn orders, I'm at UTC+03 time zone.

Also, I will be playing as Rome.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-15, 09:53 AM

I am also on GMT +3 during DST.

Posca

2014-06-15, 10:19 AM

Ok, I think I managed to join the game.

By the way, I was under the assumption no DLC races were allowed. Can we pick from DLC races? I may change to something else if that's the case.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-15, 10:24 AM

They're banned because we have players who don't own the DLC.

Posca

2014-06-15, 12:17 PM

They're banned because we have players who don't own the DLC.

Rome it is then :smallsmile:

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-16, 06:14 AM

This is just a tip off to players who haven't done this before that the game has now started. Load up the Giant Multiplayer Robot App when you are able to see if it is your turn.

Luzahn

2014-06-16, 06:26 AM

Heh, thanks Skeleton. I've been fairly bad about communicating things, and yesterday was "spend all day on a plane" day. :smalltongue:

The game has started by the way. Turn order was an attempt to line up the timezones, but that shouldn't be much of a problem anyway.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-16, 06:46 AM

I was actually wondering about that. I'm (GMT +3) after Togath at GMT -8, yet before Closet Skeleton at GMT +0 and before Orcus at GMT -4.

Looks like it's my turn though, so I'll go ahead and play that.

Togath

2014-06-16, 06:51 AM

Interesting so far, looking forward to seeing how things evolve:smallsmile:

http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/577899447109113318/32A3CBA8AC46246DBD24B2DB1BB73BEC3C2A961D/1024x614.resizedimage
I'm off to a decent start, managed six notable resources(three in my starting territory, three just outside) and some ruins. Building a worker to help me grab the resources, and currently studying animal husbandry so I can start up caravans asap.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-16, 07:00 AM

For some reason when I tried to open the save from GMR, the Civ5 process would start, but there would be no window. It did this each time. Basically, an unusable ghost process which I had to task manager kill. I shortcut it by opening the save manually from Civ5. In the save file, it claimed I was Siam, but when it started loading, I was properly Arabia.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/2e5mc60.jpg
I spawned 1 tile away from a river+mountain start. I also have nearby Floodplains, Marble, and 3 Gold for luxury resources. The only thing I'm worried about is if there mountain range is so wide that it starts causing problems later when Mecca is larger. I don't want to be stuck with a bunch of unusable citizens. Still, specialists are a thing.

Luzahn

2014-06-16, 07:15 AM

Yeah, save file is based around whoever started the game, nothing to worry about there.

And I've found that trouble with GMR launching Civ can be circumvented by launching through steam and then just downloading the save when you're already in the menu.

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-16, 07:54 AM

I'm in at the edge, don't know if its a corner yet. There's lots of copper and those annoying jungles but thankfully only one ivory. We have lots of swamp too, which could be better, and no adjacent mountain which may only have to apply to Berlin thanks to the map type. I could have moved but it would have been across rivers, jungle and swamp and a better start location is worth wasting 2 turns at most.

http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/580150966659853496/7A83D99622E5D7C225BAA8E6824C212E1073972C/

MeatShield#236

2014-06-16, 11:29 AM

Let the games begin!

No screenshots from me, so I'll try to describe my situation. I've got a nice little river valley with mountains blocking my south with gems, stone, and spices nearby. I'm immediately faced with a decision: do I settle in the valley or do I spend a turn moving my settler next to a mountain for the observatory? I opt for moving my settler. Here's hoping one turn isn't going to gimp me.

As for tech, I'll grab mining and masonry early along with writing to build an early library. It might be worth it to try and rush The Great Library, but then again I don't want to waste production on a building that might not get built (a very real threat, especially if someone has marble nearby.) For social policies, I'll be filling out most of tradition, then grabbing all of Piety for the reformation belief, then finishing off tradition. We'll see what situation I'm in once that happens.

With the turn aside, let's talk about victory conditions and how I'm trying to win. Ethiopia lends itself very nicely to building tall, getting the first religion (+2 faith on a monument pretty much guarantees the first pantheon and religion) and turtling. Their unique unit is kinda crazy, with Drill 1 out of the box; very nice on this kind of map. That, combined with Ethiopia's passive means that any warmongers are going to have a VERY tough time cracking me. A science victory is probably going to be my easiest option. Domination is right out (and would actually hurt me), and culture tends to favor building wide (more places to put great works). I'll still pump out great works, but mostly to combat tourism and sedition later on in the game. A Diplomatic victory is a possibility, but with Siam around I won't bet on getting very many seats. (I'd bet money he'll go Patronage and get the Forbidden Palace.)

Now for my predictions for my competitors. Siam is probably going for a Diplomatic victory while the Maya are probably going science (what with their +2 science shrine). The Aztecs will most certainly start a war or two; here's hoping he's not my neighbor. Germany will most certainly have a big military along with Rome, and I'll have to watch out for the both of them. I'm dearly hoping either Morocco or Arabia are my neighbors and we can form some sort of Alliance against whoever is the biggest military power. No idea what victory they are going for.

That about wraps it up for my predictions. My chief concern in the early game is getting the first or second religion and grabbing the beliefs I want. No matter what happens, this promises to be a very interesting and entertaining game.

Posca

2014-06-16, 11:21 PM

After long and hard search, Roman people finally found a place they can call home. Rome has risen.

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/433783980830524689/D05B779AD5172601A57BECFDAFC3C592F2B4EB09/

Location wise we seems to be good shape with a very long river, two grains for growth and marble for some early wonder action. Thinking of going great library with tradition wonder bonus. I already queued Pottery and Writing.

Obvious starting strategy would be going legions and knocking on someones door but I'm not really sure I want to be that guy. Human players seems to hold grudges much longer. And also I don't really want to knock someone from the game in the classical age. Or get knocked out myself for that matter. We shall see.

OrcusMcP

2014-06-17, 06:05 AM

MONTEZUMA SPOKE AND THE WORLD TREMBLED!

HE STAMPED HIS FEET AND HIS CITY SPRUNG UP AROUND HIM!

THE RIVER VALLEY OF THE AZTECS WAS BOUNTIFUL AND FULL OF BOTH THE HIGHEST AND LOWEST GAME!

THE MIGHTY JAGUARS WERE SENT TO FIND WORTHY TRIBUTE TO START CONSTRUCTION OF THE ALTAR OF BONE!

Couldn't get a screenshot, as I was in a rush yesterday. Spawned in a decent spot, with Ivory and Truffle. Lots of room for Teonochtitlan to grow.

General plan is to go very tall off the backs of Tradition, Honour and Floating Gardens. I'll be pumping out a bunch of jaguars that I will hopefully be able to keep around for a few upgrades and then send out to sweep away my enemies.

Long term plan is an autocracy conquer spree. Aluminum is going to be very precious on this map for air units, helicopters especially.

Luzahn

2014-06-17, 09:18 AM

Aww dammit, I hate the alter of bone... :smallfrown:

The monk-lords of Sukhothai congratulate our esteemed Aztec colleagues of their achievment in altar technologies, and encourage them to use this marvel to meditate on their place in the universe, rather than, say, hunt down our itinerant monks for cultural development.

The hidden mountain retreat of Sukhothai is born! We have resources! And a lake! Truly, a paradise for man. (For those unfamiliar, the strange tiles on my right are the map's edge, so I look to have spawned in a secure location. Scout first, to determine where my mountain range is able to be closed off, and because Warriors are too slow to scout in Highlands.

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/468686876037490763/FF55AB690D91BD8DF8BF387624F337F79A7CFC58/

WeLoveFireballs

2014-06-17, 10:28 AM

I must say I am really impressed with the functionality of GMR!

Begin the long count! We have 6012 years to rule this world and we shall not waste it. We shall discover the great truths of the universe and spread the word to those who are worthy. Let those who are foolish enough to deny our everlasting wisdom and power dash themselves on the walls of Palanaque!

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/580150966687829019/23124CF1DE5F7978E2550E27FAF4C532C4FECA50/1024x576.resizedimage
I got a pretty nice starting area with lots of stone marble and silver. I'm currently undecided between tradition and piety for my social policies. The halved pyramid cost could be very strong and 3 silver means I could get religious idols for some serious faith and culture. However tradition is just really good. I want to get pottery first for my super shrines along with an Atlatl or two in the meantime, then probably go into masonry for the three quarries and 3 mines I can get.

OrcusMcP

2014-06-17, 10:57 AM

aww dammit, i hate the alter of bone... :smallfrown:

The monk-lords of sukhothai congratulate our esteemed aztec colleagues of their achievment in altar technologies, and encourage them to use this marvel to meditate on their place in the universe, rather than, say, hunt down our itinerant monks for cultural development.

montezuma will suffer no mockery of his bone altar!

Monk bones are just as good as other bones!

edit: MONTEZUMA DOES NOT APPRECIATE NOT BEING ABLE TO REPLY IN ALL-CAPS! HE WILL NOT BE SILENCED!

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-17, 12:18 PM

That's... really good.

I got confused and posted spectator comments for a game I'm in.

Oops. Will have to try and remember which spoilers I'm aloud to read in the future. Misread the Civ 5 in the title as being game 5 when I'm only in 1, 2, 4 and 6.

thirsting

2014-06-17, 12:43 PM

It's still really good :D

Luzahn

2014-06-17, 12:52 PM

Oh no! Now I really want to look in there. :smalltongue:

I'd better scout him quickly, I suppose.

Mx.Silver

2014-06-17, 02:07 PM

Bloody hell, that start location.

Aww dammit, I hate the alter of bone... :smallfrown:

I don't :smallbiggrin:

Togath

2014-06-17, 10:17 PM

Rivers.. I'd forgotten how much they can slow exploration(early game anyway)..
http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/579025530983780523/129E418AD7A91694E9CD8F961E7579B05318C6E2/1024x614.resizedimage
looks like I'll need to wait another round for the ruins.. though it does look like I spawned in food rich plains, which will help later in the game, especially for a trading oriented civ, even more so given the nature of this map.
Also; what does the list of numbers and names on the right side of the screen mean?

WeLoveFireballs

2014-06-17, 10:28 PM

Frog Dragon

2014-06-19, 08:08 AM

I just figured out the meaning of the thread title.

I'm kind of slow sometimes.

OrcusMcP

2014-06-19, 08:20 AM

Those are player scores, they'll mostly be the same for now but some things like how many water tiles you have will make them slightly different. You can tell when people found cities and stuff even if you haven't met them.

Yeah, it's a bit of a meta-gaming bit in the early game with regards to founding cities, knowing who built wonders, who got early culture ruins or who founded religions. As the game goes on it becomes harder to meta-game the score.

Luzahn

2014-06-19, 10:34 AM

I just figured out the meaning of the thread title.

I'm kind of slow sometimes.

I'm pretty happy with it. :smallbiggrin:

Posca

2014-06-19, 04:30 PM

I just figured out the meaning of the thread title.

I'm kind of slow sometimes.

Hmm, I'm still not getting it. At the risk of ruining the joke, can some one explain it please :smallredface:

Mx.Silver

2014-06-19, 07:05 PM

Hmm, I'm still not getting it. At the risk of ruining the joke, can some one explain it please :smallredface:

The game is taking place on a highlands map. "There can be only one" is a recurring line in the Highlander films.

Togath

2014-06-19, 08:57 PM

I definitely spawned in a bit of an oddball spot...
We did end up going with the super-rough terrain map, correct?

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/579025531036458705/065CB5EEB796CC8D38B16B70B54821A55A2B9CBB/1024x614.resizedimage
A headstart on social policies :D, and a bit more exploring too.

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-20, 03:58 AM

The game is taking place on a highlands map. "There can be only one" is a recurring line in the Highlander films.

Oh right. I was trying to work it out with arithmatic for some reason (its game 6 for Civ5?) but there obviously aren't only one of these things.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-20, 05:21 AM

Errrr.... did I just manage to skip like 4 of you? GMR seems to be hickupping and refusing to let me submit my saves. However, every time I try it moves one player in the turn order, at least from my end. It should be Closet Skeleton's turn, but buggy GMR may have auto'd you. Not sure if this is just on my end.

OrcusMcP

2014-06-20, 06:28 AM

Togath

2014-06-20, 06:33 AM

GMR is down for me as well

Luzahn

2014-06-20, 08:32 AM

GMR is down for me as well

To answer the previous question, yes we are in the super-rocky, hard-to-navigate chokepoint map. Because it's hilarious. :smallbiggrin:

You can see the screenshots in my initial post for how the map usually turns out, to see whether your start is unusually mountainous.

Togath

2014-06-20, 08:40 AM

I definitely got an unusual spot then ^w^

Posca

2014-06-20, 10:59 AM

GMR seems to be bugged at the moment. Right now it is saying its my turn but when I try to load the game it loads as Siam Also when I clicked the game on the GMR app, it gives a message saying something like "congrats, you are starting a new game."

Any ideas on what should I do?

Frog Dragon

2014-06-20, 11:07 AM

GMR:s site seems to be working again.

I think Closet Skeleton, MeatShield and Orcus have all gotten skipped, so we should be reverting. By the looks of it, I'm the last one who actually got to play a turn.

MeatShield#236

2014-06-20, 11:25 AM

I most certainly got skipped; couldn't access GMR for a few hours and when it did go through it was past my turn. Not sure how it happened.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-20, 11:33 AM

I suspect it was GMR kinda-sorta registering my attempts to pass on the save. Every time I tried, it said that it hadn't worked. However, it seems that each attempt I made was still somehow registered on the GMR server, resulting in it thinking it was a different player each time. Thus, for every seemingly unsuccessful attempt I made, the server was told that another player had played their turn and passed the turn along accordingly.

So basically me battling with a buggy server skipped a bunch of you on accident. Sorry.

MeatShield#236

2014-06-20, 11:39 AM

It's cool, you couldn't have known what the buggy server would do. I assume it's a simple matter of reverting the save to a previous turn?

Frog Dragon

2014-06-20, 11:54 AM

I checked "recent turns", and it doesn't seem like the players who got "skipped" actually had their turns taken at all. I suspect if Posca took his turn now, he'd actually wind up opening Closet Skeleton's save.

Luzahn

2014-06-20, 12:21 PM

I'll see if there's something I can do with the save, then. What do we think the last correctly-played turn was?

Frog Dragon

2014-06-20, 12:30 PM

Togath's turn was definitely correctly played. Mine may have been.

WeLoveFireballs

2014-06-20, 12:31 PM

Frog Dragon says he was the last one and the GMR log of recent turns agrees with him, so it should be Germany's term next.

Ninja'd

Luzahn

2014-06-20, 12:39 PM

Hm. I gave it a try, but the game doesn't seem to be updating. Perhaps something is still going wrong on GMR's end.

Posca

2014-06-20, 04:43 PM

Sorry guys, didn't have time to post here. Already tried to revert to turn once but it did not work as it stil shows it is as my turn. I'm trying to revert again right now.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-20, 04:50 PM

We had the same bug in fifth GitP game. I emailed support and they erased the phantom turns. Once they had done that, reverting and redoing my turn fixed the game.

OrcusMcP

2014-06-20, 07:26 PM

Looks like I was skipped, but since it was only turn 3 it's not a big loss, at least for me.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-21, 05:07 AM

Well, your turn wasn't AI:d either. The problem is that GMR has added phantom turns that neither the players nor the AI have actually played.

Luzahn

2014-06-21, 01:22 PM

Well, I've emailed their customer support, hopefully something can be resolved.

WeLoveFireballs

2014-06-23, 01:52 PM

Might it be easier to just restart? We were only 3 turns in anyway.

Luzahn

2014-06-23, 05:07 PM

Might it be easier to just restart? We were only 3 turns in anyway.

Well, I'm against taking away anybody's starts. I'll try another rollback.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-23, 05:13 PM

Luzahn

2014-06-23, 05:28 PM

I didn't get the reverts to work before the admins of the site removed the phantoms. If they haven't responded to you, I'm afraid the rollbacks won't do anything.

If nothing else works, existing saves can be set up as GMR games, right? You can just take your most recent GMR save, upload it as a new game and we can continue playing from the last turn you actually took.

The reverts are going through now, we should be ok.

Edit: And they've stopped. Ugh, lemme just tinker with it a bit more.

I don't actually have the original saves, they're all overwritten each time I upload. We might just have to restart.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-23, 05:35 PM

Hmm? Most of the skips seem to be gone. Only Posca has a skip now.

Luzahn

2014-06-23, 05:54 PM

It allowed me to revert back until my last turn, but not beyond.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-23, 06:12 PM

Well, if we can't revert properly, might as well restart. I doubt having to reroll the start (which is basically all it amounts to, since we only played 3 turns or so) is really a big deal for anyone, even if it was a good start.

OrcusMcP

2014-06-23, 06:15 PM

Yeah, I'd say a restart is probably the easiest way to get things going again.

WeLoveFireballs

2014-06-23, 06:41 PM

It's a shame to lose my insane start (feel free to look at it) but I really just wanna play.

Togath

2014-06-23, 08:09 PM

MeatShield#236

2014-06-23, 09:46 PM

Restarting is alright with me if it's alright with everyone else.

Driderman

2014-06-24, 04:33 AM

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-24, 05:17 AM

I don't feel the need to restart, but if we do I will take advantage of the sale to buy everyone Denmark.

*disclaimer, I am mostly joking, this is not binding, its still £1.49

Frog Dragon

2014-06-24, 05:39 AM

I'd be fine with restarting... turns out what I thought was three silver were actually three salt(and my ruins* were just social policy points).

*out of curiosity... is it a guarantee that they will be ruins within 3 hexes of your warrior's starting location? or have I just had really good luck?

I rank culture ruins among the higher tier of ruins. Tech ruins might be even better, but culture ruins are still great. They give you your first social policy way faster, which in turn kickstarts your social policy acquisition, and also gives you all sorts of benefits earlier. The true benefit of an early culture ruin is way greater than it initially seems.

OrcusMcP

2014-06-24, 06:00 AM

Early tech ruin usually only puts you ahead 6-8 turns, early food will put you ahead 4-6 turns, while an early culture ruin (especially on standard) will put you ahead by 20 turns.

Posca

2014-06-24, 08:22 AM

I'm ok with restarting as well. I can revert as soon as I get home as I can't access GMR site from work. It seems Giantitp is obscure enough for our IT guys not to block but GMR is not. Maybe they are Civ fans as well.

Luzahn

2014-06-24, 08:30 AM

Tech is arguably more important than culture, though. Having a new tech is usually much more useful than a new policy.

Regardless, here are the links for the new game. If people were to remind me of their timezones, I could make the turn order work better this time around.

OrcusMcP: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/12154?token=a0a73f4f-1496-4d17-b3fa-f7d80977e56c

Closet Skeleton: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/12154?token=5d769569-b8a9-47f3-8688-d77e74aa2f90

Welovefireballs: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/12154?token=a9cdcfcb-d655-49dd-bce9-48235c77a6e5

Frog Dragon: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/12154?token=053f8f61-8473-41d9-9afb-4cc502569709

MeatShield: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/12154?token=58043cf4-8719-41fb-b555-e25183e24bfd

Togath: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/12154?token=6b08e640-f8d0-4531-9eef-a8155a377e6f

Posca: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/12154?token=c421fd38-715a-4e66-94a6-fd7e40d5d925

Frog Dragon

2014-06-24, 08:48 AM

I'm on Eastern European Summer Time, or GMT +3.

Posca

2014-06-24, 08:48 AM

I'm in GMT +3 as well.

Togath

2014-06-24, 09:08 AM

GMT -8 for me

OrcusMcP

2014-06-24, 09:31 AM

GMT - 4, will join after work

WeLoveFireballs

2014-06-24, 09:37 AM

GMT -8 over here.

Driderman

2014-06-24, 10:12 AM

Tech is arguably more important than culture, though. Having a new tech is usually much more useful than a new policy.

For early game, I'd much rather have social policy first and then pick up a tech later. Unless the tech is Pottery but that's hardly guaranteed. Pretty much any other tech either requires you to have a worker ready to be useful, which isn't happening until a bit later.

MeatShield#236

2014-06-24, 10:38 AM

I am GMT -4.

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-24, 11:34 AM

GMT, no plus or minus anything.

I assume everyone hasn't picked up missing DLC in the sale? No idea if there's still a cheap upgrade to a complete edition.

Luzahn

2014-06-24, 06:02 PM

Togath, I assume you still want to stick with Morocco? Just want to make sure everything's in order before I start, and you're still on "other" in the game menu.

Togath

2014-06-24, 07:25 PM

Togath, I assume you still want to stick with Morocco? Just want to make sure everything's in order before I start, and you're still on "other" in the game menu.

I would like to stick with it.
I'm also not sure how to leave the other game now that we're restarting.

WeLoveFireballs

2014-06-24, 07:28 PM

Is anyone else having trouble with the GMR client? Mine just tries to verify application requirements and closes.

Luzahn

2014-06-24, 07:47 PM

Assuming you're using a PC, I've found that closing the process in the task manager can fix that.

And Togath, you would leave the other game by hitting "surrender" on the game's page.

Luzahn

2014-06-24, 08:15 PM

Right, the new game is successfully started!

The new start:

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/468687340302565153/DA4E2E5F9840790B02B5FF05FD78ECB9AD1C21A2/

A better start than the last, I'd say. Although I'm disappointed to not be on a clear edge.

OrcusMcP

2014-06-24, 08:24 PM

MONTEZUMA WAS CONFUSED!

THE ALTAR OF BONE DID NOT WORK AS INTENDED!

NOW HE WAS IN A NEW LAND WITH A NEW CITY!

MONTEZUMA SAW HE WAS SURROUNDED BY VERDANT JUNGLE AND FOREST!

PERHAPS THE ALTAR OF BONE NEEDS NICE DRAPERY IN ORDER TO WORK PROPERLY!

http://imageshack.com/a/img823/2760/lrox.png

Hmmm, an interesting start. Dyes and Cotton don't lend themselves towards a particular direction, but the marble and stone to my west mean a strong wonder building second city. have some lakes nearby, which will help with my GROW MASSIVELY TALL strategy. Main plan is still autocracy conquer spree, and having a bunch of luxuries to trade should help pay for my standing army.

MeatShield#236

2014-06-24, 09:33 PM

My apologies, but it seems I cannot play my turn due to not having the requisite DLC. In fact, the DLC required is, well, all of them, even though nobody's playing a DLC Civ and Highlands isn't a DLC map. Did you forget to turn off most of the DLC when you started the game?

Luzahn

2014-06-25, 10:05 AM

...

:smallfrown:

MeatShield#236

2014-06-25, 12:08 PM

Unfortunately, getting all the DLC just isn't an option for me. Do we want to do another restart or do you guys just want to go on without me?

WeLoveFireballs

2014-06-25, 12:30 PM

I think 3 or 4 people don't have the dlc so it has to be a restart.

Luzahn

2014-06-25, 10:52 PM

Yeah, I'll set that up tomorrow. Just feeling a bit demoralized right now. :smalltongue:

Luzahn

2014-06-26, 09:43 PM

Right, invites should have been sent on the GMR site.

MeatShield#236

2014-06-26, 10:18 PM

I assume those come via the messages? If so, then I didn't receive mine.

OrcusMcP

2014-06-27, 08:23 AM

Montezuma tore down the ugly drapes from the altar of bone.

He would only speak "ugly! Ugly!" over and over.

He decided that another new start for a city was necessary, and this time the altar would be perfect.

Edit: THE ALTAR OF BONE WAS SO UGLY IT CAUSE MONTEZUMA'S POSTS TO STOP BEING IN ALL CAPS!

Luzahn

2014-06-27, 10:07 AM

I'll check it out Meatshield. It seems to have worked for most of the others, at any rate.

Edit: Here are a couple of invite links, if that's easier.

Togath: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/12196?token=011511a7-a420-4a74-afbe-1ae702fda2fd

Meatshield: http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Join/12196?token=63d04f06-5512-4543-9d43-3d078f98c645

Togath

2014-06-27, 12:17 PM

I think I may have messed up... Did I join the new game, or join and then leave it just now?

Luzahn

2014-06-27, 01:06 PM

You're in the correct one, no worries there. :smallsmile:

WeLoveFireballs

2014-06-27, 01:20 PM

I messed up the join a little, I still want to be Maya.

Luzahn

2014-06-27, 01:40 PM

Yeah, I have you in as Maya. The game's been started up now.

Posca

2014-06-28, 04:48 AM

Well, that's a very different start.

No screenshots but we are in a zone completely surrounded by forest, with our luxuries being 2 dyes and a incense. sigh. We also have 2 deer and 2 visible hills but nowhere near a production powerhouse I want Rome to be. On the positive side we have tons of river tiles which will boost production significantly once I get dams.

Lets hope this time we don't glitch out

Frog Dragon

2014-06-28, 04:55 AM

Didn't get a mountain start this time. I did have some in LoS, but I think not settling turn 1 is a mistake, especially on Fast. Still, it's a fine starting area.

Togath

2014-06-28, 07:35 AM

Not a desert this time ^w^
http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/579026479958992133/BB207CBE802DC8E048CD2CEB67A7A1017C1111DE/1024x614.resizedimage
Much better start than my last, coastal and riverside, with a ton of resources(2 gems, 2 dyes, deer, cattle, and wheat)

OrcusMcP

2014-06-28, 08:38 AM

MONTEZUMA IS TOO CRANKY TO MAKE HIS USUAL THREATS!

BLA BLAH ALTAR OF BONE BLAH BLAH!

http://imageshack.com/a/img856/194/4i4o.png
Nothing special, but nothing terrible. Lots of jungle, but that works in my favour as Aztec. I can see another river to my east, and I think there's coast not far too my north. I can work with this.

Edit: Question, is the timer on?

Luzahn

2014-06-28, 09:47 AM

Er...yes! Of course there is! I didn't mess up something again, nope!

The timer that's there right now was totally not just added.

Frog Dragon

2014-06-28, 10:01 AM

That gmail notification of the new turn timer must've just been my imagination.

Posca

2014-06-28, 04:09 PM

OrcusMcP

2014-06-28, 06:06 PM

Quick question: I remember in one of the other Civ5 games some basic diplomacy rules were established, like anything not written down on the forum not being binding. Do we want to something like that?

I'd say so. Anything handled by the game engine is as binding as the game engine (defensive pacts, research agreements, etc), if you agree on something to happen right away and one side delivers the other side should deliver, anything else is fair game, nothing that isn't written on the forum has any weight.

Luzahn

2014-06-28, 07:04 PM

Well, when I made a deal with the Shoshone to trade two submarines for various services (and mostly to see if it would actually work) I specified that I was doing the trade as if it was enforced by the game's rules. Anything else should be able to be revoked, with whatever diplomatic consequences it would have.

Although I'm actually inclined to have any deals fully free to be reneged on, if anybody else would be interested in playing it like that. It would prevent any deals without an out-of-character clause from seeming suspicious.

OrcusMcP

2014-06-29, 08:13 AM

Closet_Skeleton

2014-06-30, 12:16 PM

I think agreements should be more or less binding, but that just seems sensible anyway, you don't want to backstab people too much or nobody will trust you.

Behold Silberburg, (aka Silburg for short).
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/577899631435277879/C6AD3CD17BE6DFE9C72C249A2D67F53C6168F9C7/

Not too bad a start, but still tundra-ish.

Togath

2014-06-30, 12:34 PM

I'd be fine either way as well

WeLoveFireballs

2014-06-30, 01:22 PM

I had some computer issues so I skipped one turn, it should be fixed now. I'm fine with either way, but we should specify soon.

EDIT: Another option is we have a kind of half and half, normal communications don't have to be held to but teal text does. Although that might just ruin both options.

Togath

2014-07-01, 06:12 PM

I think, if I had to pick one... I'd go with non-binding.
So betrayal is a possibility, but with the downside that people will be less trusting of you if you do betray someone.

One of my scouting parties has reported signs of a village in a nearby valley.
I plan to have them try to make contact. Hopefully they'll be open to trade with our nation.
http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/579026789248455881/5912409649E696D92A7D1EC904152448D24BB5F3/1024x614.resizedimage
a city-sate on turn three, and the discovery of nearby fish :D

City-states have dotted borders, while civilizations have solid ones, correct?

Closet_Skeleton

2014-07-01, 07:21 PM

What's this, a new GMRG? Time to check everyone's starts-

Oh wait, I'm still in this one.

You know, I had to check the dotted city state borders thing. But its correct, more or less. It actually alternates black and state colour rather than being truly dotted which would alternate with empty space, but both colours are translucent so whatever.

A game where backstabbing is impossible isn't viable. The event that prompted this was one where I had to backstab someone.

Well, when I made a deal with the Shoshone to trade two submarines for various services (and mostly to see if it would actually work) I specified that I was doing the trade as if it was enforced by the game's rules. Anything else should be able to be revoked, with whatever diplomatic consequences it would have.

You know I'm not supposed to know that right?

On the other hand, its kind of irrelevant now and completely bit you in the ass. "I'm going to prop up a potential enemy rather than build a relationship with my only natural ally, ho hum dah dah dee."

Luzahn

2014-07-01, 08:04 PM

Hey, there's nothing preventing me from sharing that information, and it's well past any point that it could do anything regardless. I'm probably going to just concede game one now anyway, there's little reason for me to keep playing the turns.

And to be honest, that one was done when I was still trying to keep up a balance of power between you and the Shoshone. Because I was wedged between the two of you and both of you had reason to eliminate my science-loving ass. :smalltongue: But again, mostly it was Driderman and I seeing if it could actually work.

Driderman

2014-07-02, 01:32 AM

And besides, I'm pretty sure I already let that slip already :)

OrcusMcP

2014-07-02, 06:01 AM

How about the following, then:
Only agreement with actual weight is handled by the game engine. If you want something firm, you have to work it out relative to that.

Frog Dragon

2014-07-11, 03:33 AM

What just happened? I got an email notification that the turn timer had been disabled because everyone had been skipped, but this is quite clearly not what is going on. I actually got the notifications for it being my turn and me being skipped 5 minutes apart, and I'm pretty sure the timer is longer than 5 minutes.

Posca

2014-07-11, 06:54 AM

I just played my turn but it was the same save file as the last one. I played same turn twice. Weird.

Luzahn

2014-07-11, 09:47 AM

Presumably it has something to do with the massive issues GMR seems to be having at the moment. I don't think any of the games are working properly.

Luzahn

2014-07-26, 12:32 PM

Ok, as GMR issues appear to have subsided, I'm switching the turn timer back on.

Frog Dragon

2014-07-26, 04:03 PM

The scout commander reports the finding of a ruin. However, the passing of an uncivilized people has left it picked clean. A scout on-site was reported describing the site as "the worst ruin ever".

MeatShield#236

2014-08-04, 10:39 PM

These are our first words: We have found a home. After many years traveling the desert, we have discovered a land where our people might grow and prosper. But though our days of wondering the desert are over, it still speaks to us. Between the bounty of the grasslands and the harshness of the desert, there you will find our city.

Excerpt from The Tale of Beginnings, the earliest known text of Ethiopian writing.

Yes, I did wait until I researched writing before I posted anything, figured it would be appropriate. Anyway, as you might've guessed, I have a very different start than before. Lots of desert to my south, but grassland (with marble and furs) to my north, mountains to my east, and a lake full of fish to my west. It's fantastic. Also, there's something I've discovered which will basically make me a nightmare to attack. I won't share it until I can figure out how to make screenshots.

And yes, I totally grabbed desert folklore. Yes, I have several workable desert tiles around me. Yes, I am going to get a religion before some people have a pantheon. :smallcool:

Does anyone here know how to both take and upload screen shots?

Togath

2014-08-04, 11:06 PM

F12 by default.

little late to post this, but I figure it can't hurt :3
http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/46478202376895918/53321DD043D02DAA96373DF4B432A1C46395B201/
My scouts have reported an encounter with another nation to our west.
It is my hope that our neighbors to the west will prove allies in our efforts against the barbarian tribes, as well as in our effort to survive in these harsh lands.

Also civ-to-civ communications; should we come up with introductions when we encounter another civ?

Luzahn

2014-08-04, 11:28 PM

I mean, I like to do something suitably melodramatic as an introduction, but there shouldn't be any sort of requirement for it.

Togath

2014-08-04, 11:49 PM

Just wanted to check.
Nothing really came to mind for me.:smallsmile:

MeatShield#236

2014-08-08, 03:29 PM

http://i.imgur.com/uW7W6HU.jpg
Here's my starting position. As you can see, it's pretty fantastic. The more perceptive of you might notice something major.
http://i.imgur.com/LtcfJP2.jpg
Here's a close up. For those of you who don't know, this is Mt. Kilimanjaro, a natural wonder. In addition to its 3 food and 2 culture, it has a semi-hidden benefit: any unit that moves next to it receives a unique promotion for free. This promotion gives any unit double movement on hills along with a combat bonus. Now, on a regular map, this would be a nice benefit. However, because this is a Highlands map this promotion is potentially game breaking. I need to get a settler there ASAP, though I don't think anyone else has found it yet. I also want to note it's right next to a bunch of desert with 2 wheat and incense. I... am in awe.

I'll be honest with you, I started cackling like a mad man when I discovered this. I cannot overstate how useful this promotion is, and once I build a city there ALL of my units will have this promotion. Anyone trying to attack me is in for a VERY big surprise.

OrcusMcP

2014-08-11, 09:36 AM

montezuma is depressed. he does not want to use his normal booming voice today.

he is stuck in the north west corner, surrounded by mountains he has not yet been able to breach.

Togath

2014-08-14, 01:54 PM

"So how does it sound? A small tithe of gold for a map of my lands?"
[trade offer; embassy in my capitol for 3 gold per turn for 25 turns]

MeatShield#236

2014-08-14, 06:06 PM

That is far too much. An embassy for an embassy would benefit us both, and I am willing to wait if you don't have the tech for it.

Togath

2014-08-15, 03:05 PM

understandable. sounds like a deal then, once I have the technology.

Posca

2014-08-20, 09:55 AM

Hi everyone. I'm so very sorry about my absence. I had a series of events starting with a business trip and a car accident which left me with neither a computer to aceess Civ 5 not the ability to play it. I'm back now should be present to play my turn in a timely manner from now on.

Thanks a bunch for your patience.

Frog Dragon

2014-08-25, 10:30 AM

In the name of Harun Al-Rashid, the great Caliph of most holy Mecca, we greet you.

From whence do you come? Our lands lie to the southeast of this small pocket of civilization we overlook, but beware. Many nomads harry the lands beyond our walls, and we cannot yet do more than protect what is ours from them.

Our great caliph is not interested in war except with those who threaten Mecca, and will welcome any who merely seek to spread right and civilized living among the barbarians.

OoC: Ran into your spearmen next to Ormus.

OrcusMcP

2014-08-28, 06:06 AM

BEHOLD ALL, AND TREMBLE! MIGHTY MONTEZUMA HAS FOUND A NATURAL SIGHT THAT PLEASES HIM GREATLY!

HE HAS PASSED THROUGH THE PRISON MOUNTAINS AND COME TO A SEA WITH A RAGING VOLCANO!

HE WILL SETTLE THIS LAND FOR THE GLORY OF TENOCHTITLAN!

Yup, found Krakatoa, it's just off coast to my south. my starting area as been super closed off and i've been having to clear barbarians from chokepoints to move forward, so the amount of the world I can see has been very limited so far. I will have some screenshots next turn.

WeLoveFireballs

2014-09-07, 09:07 AM

Just a quick update as I'm kinda busy right now, I'm going to be out of town for a couple weeks so I turned on vacation mode. Hopefully the AI isn't too dumb.

Things are going okay for me right now, I got a monument, a pyramid and a granary. I got a very quick pantheon and went with god of the sea since my city is on the coast and there are 3 crabs right next to me. Plus nothing else is particularly abundant nearby. I adopted tradition and found 2 ruins. One barbarian map and 40 faith. Right now my lands are a little overrun with barbarians as my warrior has been scouting but they're not much threat.

Togath

2014-09-08, 07:15 AM

Missed my last two turns(been distracted)... Did the AI do anything too weird?
I had a scout guarding an area.. Hopefully it didn't wander too far off.
Fudge.. Three turns now.
Really hoping I still have that unit I was working on..

OrcusMcP

2014-09-21, 09:30 AM

MONTEZUMA HAS RISEN FROM HIS JUNGLE OF SOLITUDE!!

HE HAS COMMISSIONED A NEW MAPPING!

HE WILL HANG IT ON THE ALTAR OF BONE!

TREMBLE, MORTALS!

http://imageshack.com/a/img537/2020/HUdYyH.png
Tenochtitlan is in the middle of a whole bunch of jungle, lots of cotton. It's still growing, and I plan to make it gigantic. I may just turtle up and make this city huge. The reason why will be clear shortly.
http://imageshack.com/a/img912/2144/Krl268.png
Montezuma lives in a box. A box made of jungle and mountains. There's a hill pass to the south and to the east, but that's it. I am pretty impregnable until air power comes into play. But, I seem to be off in my own corner.

My plan right now is to finish my library, get another Jaguar and then get a settler out to settle near Krakatoa. After that, build up more and settle near my eastern mountain pass.

Closet_Skeleton

2014-09-21, 02:57 PM

Our lands are to the south west.

Once we have made further assessments of the economic opportunities of our nations we will contact you again.

Closet_Skeleton

2014-09-27, 04:06 AM

My second city, Ironpass, has been founded.

No idea if there's any iron there, but it is a pass and it sounded badass.

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/36350654435716661/D7590220CE6C89AD07DBF34E32E51B85CF0A24EB/

Frog Dragon

2014-09-27, 04:29 AM

The great Caliph of most holy Mecca would be pleased to receive your ambassadors, and send his own in return. We hope this marks an era of prosperity and cooperation for Moroccan and Arabian alike.

(I accepted the embassy.)

Frog Dragon

2014-10-03, 09:11 AM

Can I get a revert? I had a turn to play in both of my GMR games, and for some reason, when I played my turn in the the fifth GMR game, it instead bumped my turn in this one. I have not actually played my turn.

Luzahn

2014-10-03, 10:05 AM

It's done, hopefully everything works out this time.

Frog Dragon

2014-10-03, 11:42 AM

That worked. Thanks.

OrcusMcP

2014-10-15, 01:17 PM

OOC:I may have accidentally uploaded the wrong save to this game this morning, not enough coffee, apologies if a revert needs to get done./OOC

IC: MONTEZUMA HAS BEEN SILENT FOR A WHILE BUT THAT IS BECAUSE HE CAN'T SPEAK WHILE HE DRINKS THE BLOOD OF THE MANY BARBARIANS!

SOON IT WILL BE TIME FOR NEW ALTARS OF BONE TO BE CONSTRUCTED!

Togath

2014-10-16, 12:28 AM

Sorry about missing so many turns recently...
Does the ai take over when I do? I had a settler, and I was worried it might've used itself up.

Frog Dragon

2014-10-16, 01:12 AM

Yeah, if you miss your turn, the AI plays it. Game couldn't really progress otherwise.

I suppose the way to see if your settler was burned was checking if you have a new city. :smalltongue:

Togath

2014-10-16, 04:07 AM

Looks like the ai didn't burn it... Had it stay in place, and built a unit to defend it even :D

MeatShield#236

2014-10-16, 08:20 PM

Sorry people, but I have to bow out of this game. My life suddenly got a heck of a lot busier (in a good way) so I've been forgetting to do my turns for the past month. Is there anyway I can just let the A.I. run my Civ so it doesn't wait on turns I won't play?

Frog Dragon

2014-10-16, 11:09 PM

You can surrender, and that will end your participation. There's a button under the turn timer.

OrcusMcP

2014-10-18, 12:48 PM

Looks like "Posca" and "gardevor" haven't been been taking many of their turns either, anyone heard from them?

Togath

2014-10-18, 03:00 PM

"Gardevor" is me(was my steam name when the game started, I'm now going by "N3K0").
Had several schedule issues, and keep forgetting to check if it's my turn.

Frog Dragon

2014-10-19, 02:35 AM

Did Posca revert? :smallconfused: I'm pretty sure I played my turn yesterday.

Posca

2014-10-19, 11:31 AM

Yes, I had to revert as it kept giving me save file errors. I hoped reverting would fix it. I will try again once I get home.

Driderman

2014-10-20, 04:41 AM

If a single revert doesn't fix it, a double revert might do the trick. Otherwise, get help from the devs in the GMR Steam group.

Posca

2014-10-21, 11:54 PM

If a single revert doesn't fix it, a double revert might do the trick. Otherwise, get help from the devs in the GMR Steam group.

Revert seems to have fixed it as I was able to play my turn without issue.

Frog Dragon

2014-10-25, 05:47 AM

Will we be replacing Meatshield as Ethiopia?

Closet_Skeleton

2014-10-27, 11:40 AM

Probably should, unless Meatshield wants back in.

Togath

2014-11-21, 02:59 AM

Couldn't upload my last turn for some reason. Game just froze when I tried to.

Frog Dragon

2014-11-22, 09:25 AM

GMR seems to be down. Perhaps this is related.

Driderman

2014-11-22, 07:57 PM

From the GMR facebook page, emphasis mine:
"As many of you have noticed GMR is completely down! Our web server has experienced a rare double-disk failure and we'll need to rebuild everything from scratch. We do have off-site backups of the database and save files that we'll be restoring, unfortunately they're almost two months old. We're terribly sorry for the inconvenience and how much this will set your games back!

We're working hard getting everything back up and hope to have things restored by tonight or tomorrow. Thank you all for your patience!"

Frog Dragon

2014-11-27, 05:20 AM

Has anyone pushed an archive save in? I have one from the 19th of november.

Closet_Skeleton

2014-11-27, 07:17 AM

I don't have one that recent, but really don't want to start again from 25 or however many turns ago.

Frog Dragon

2014-11-27, 07:23 AM

Does anyone have a more recent save? It seems like you can just copy the save from the archive into the main folder when it's your turn and GMR will detect that as you having played your turn and upload the archive save. That would let us pick up where we left off.

Frog Dragon

2014-11-28, 12:09 AM

Well, I did the new save trick, and now the game is in the state it was on the 19th of november. Unless someone else wants to put in a newer save, we can continue playing from here.

OrcusMcP

2014-12-11, 11:04 AM

IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG SINCE MONTEZUMA HAS SPOKEN!

TREMBLE WORLD!

I SAID TREMBLE!

PLEASE?

Yeah, still haven't found anyone else, but I have found a decent amount of city states. I'm exploring both the northern and western edge of the map, if only because I have to. I can't embark yet and there's a whole lot of mountain and lakes in the middle of the map.

My second city should be founded this next turn, right by Krakatoa. I'm thinking, since I'm so distant from everyone, that I'll try to focus on just growing 3 cities to decent size and use them to boost my capitol to ridiculous heights.

And because I am Montezuma, I will be as belligerent as possible. When I meet someone, I will expect tribute or there will be war. I will be a nuisance. I will conquer.

There will be an Altar of Bone to reach the heavens!

Togath

2014-12-15, 10:08 PM

I just keep up with the schedule.
Due to the reset, the AI wasted my settler...
And I can't keep up with the turns in order to just play all of them myself, instead of having the AI do them.
And the game takes ages to start up on my computer(10 to 15 minutes to start up), and crashes if I tab out.

I'm probably going to drop... Just not fun anymore, since I can't keep up, and the AI wasted something I spent weeks getting ready.

Closet_Skeleton

2014-12-20, 06:25 PM

I don't know about anyone else but I'm going away for Christmas tomorrow.

I'd appreciate it if the turn timer was turned off for Christmas but don't mind going into vacation mode.

OrcusMcP

2014-12-21, 12:28 PM

BWAHAHAHAHA!

MONTEZUMA HAS FOUND HIS FIRST VICTIM!

TREMBLE ETHIOPIA! DOOM HAS COME FOR YOU!

ONLY A PAYMENT OF TRIBUTE WILL KEEP YOUR SOLDIERS FROM BECOMING THE FOUNDATION OF THE ALTAR OF BONE!

Yeah, finally found someone! It's Ethiopia, though, and I only found them with a scout.

No, I'm not planning on actually conquering them right now, but I plan to be in a state of perpetual war with people unless they offer some form of tribute. I want them to always be worried about me.

This may backfire horribly and get myself dogpiled upon, but I don't care. Montezuma's jungle of solitude is almost impregnable and will only become more so as time goes on. This should be a wild ride. ;)