Erfworld 28

[Tim]

Wanda has a kinky whip... O_O

[starwoof]

*nosebleed*

I want panel 4 for my desktop.

[Archaicwonder]

An awesomely kinky whip...I hope this comic doesn't become a gateway to hentai porn...

[Grep Agni]

Yeeegh. The tone of this one was rather unexpected. WTF?

[K2]

cool beans

[fruityjanitor]

Wow. Some nice fanservice in this one. And it looks like the next page (or the next Wanda page if they switch back to Ansom or Lord Hamster next page) will be fanservicealicious as well.

And her orders to the guards make it seem like the theory that she is actually friends with Jillian or helping her somehow may be true.

Also, it will be interesting to see what Bogroll and Lord Hamster are like together!

[Uzraid]

Starting it with a pclips-style comic = pure effing genius.

Also: hubba hubba.

[Lucid_Archon]

I loved the pclips begining. Also, the look of content on Bogroll's face had me rolling for some reason.

[noralives]

"Parts of me were. Now all of me is."

*snickers* This isn't my favorite Erf page so far, but it's pretty darn close. (Or maybe rereading OotS 418 five times dirtied my mind so I'm seeing humor that isn't there...but I'm not so sure of that.)

[FlyMolo]

*nosebleed*

I want panel 4 for my desktop.

Sadly, I think it's the wrong shape.

But this one was really funny.

"Parts of me were. Now all of me is."

[MoelVermillion]

Another good strip, while i found the start funny i found the rest... kinky?

[Kanthalion]

Wowza wowza wowza: Wanda-licious.

On a lesser note: loving the PClips look of the couple panels too. and it is seeming like there is something more than meets the eye with the Jillian/Wanda thing.

[Marina]

Wanda, she is awsome!!!!
but i kinda find that her head is WAY too big...

[Ezlo]

Yay! Bogroll is a Lackey now!

[Kanthalion]

Another good strip, while i found the start funny i found the rest... kinky?

But Kinky in a good way...:smallbiggrin: In light of the current Oots, it does seem almost like Jamie, Rob and Rich are talking, doesn't it?

"Now all of me is." *Snort*

[BrokenButterfly]

Don't normally see villainous ladies in white. Erfworld, bucking the trend again.

[Mr Teufel]

Wanda's wearing white? Isn't it against the Croakamancer rules or something? While of course whips are totally in.

Ninja'd by BrokenButterfly!

[Kromag]

Heh, great strip. I'd say of the Jillian/Wanda theories lesbian relationship or secret alliance are going up...actual torture is trending downwards...

By the way, heads have always seemed a bit oversized in Erfworld for some characters, but it seemed like when Wanda debuted her new outfit her head was even more oversized than usual...yes?

[FlyMolo]

Wanda, she is awsome!!!!
but i kinda find that her head is WAY too big...

I think its because she has a ponytail-going-up/topknot/bun-on-the-top-of-her-head thing.

It does look a little funny.

[Khantalas]

I just realized what junk stood for in OotS 418.

Thank you Wanda, for showing me the light. And some cleaveage. :smallwink:

[Kanthalion]

I kinda would like to see a blowup *snicker* of panel 5, just so we could see if Jamie drew Mung...uh..."all at attention."

[Raistlin1040]

Why is the top in Black and white?

[OOTS_Rules.]

If Xykon reads Erfworld, he is about to have 1,000,000 evilgasms.

[Mr Teufel]

I just realised why Wanda's dressed in white: for her good friend Jillian.

[Dawnstrider_Moogle]

...
...
...

HAWT.

[Arya_of_Evern]

Oh...my....

I agree the line about standing at attention is extremely amusing :D

[Black Mage]

That was awesome. I love the outfit on Wanda.

When I first saw it, I instantly thought of the Mord-sith from Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series, they wear white leather outfits, but not during their torture sessions, they wear the blood red for that. Wanda's last line only increased that train of thought.


Hotness.

[Sage in the Playground]

Yeeegh. The tone of this one was rather unexpected. WTF?

WTF??!!, indeed...

[TinSoldier]

Nice. Wanda -- Hubba, hubba! Bogroll gets promoted.

I was confused about the first three panels being in B&W but reading this thread revealed it to me. They were still funny.

[DocZoid]

Spicy! And yeah, same thing as Tin regarding the B&W start.

[TinSoldier]

Not only is panel five sweet, but panels seven and ten are pretty cool too.

[Kahel]

Why is the top in Black and white?

It was done like PartiallyClips (http://www.partiallyclips.com/). Another Webcomic created by Rob Balder.

[ref]

Oh, now I'm even sadder that we missed Wanda getting into this outfit, hehe.

He looks like a pink you but with depth perception.

[FlyMolo]

Wanda's room is pretty awesome.

Now I can't wait till tuesday to find out what happens next.

[Entertainer13]

I think I'm in love with Wanda, now...

[erewhon]

"This conversation is a gold mine."

HAHAHA!

Man, suddenly that Mung guy is one of my favorites.

Geez, there's so much awesome fanservice in this one, it's easy to miss the most awesome thing ever:

Parson gets BOGROLL as his straight man. Ye gawds!

[EntilZha]

Anyone else have a certain Devo song go through their heads when they saw Wanda?

I'm also kind of leaning toward the Wanda/Jillian lesbian relationship thing (pant, pant, pant)

[Harr]

Heh, if you look at the relation of Wanda's head to her shoulders it actually looks as if her head's deflating throughout the strip... gigantic in panel 3, medium in 5, normal-sized on the last panel.

That's not really a criticism though, art is still awesome, just a curious effect I saw. Although I'm pretty sure panels 5-9 show us that the art is just as good (if not better) without the bobble-head phenomenon.

Looking forward to finally seeing what's up with the 'torture' scene... Hope it's something good.

And yeah, the author definitely shows much better comedic writing & pacing than usual with the 3-panel format he's familiar with.

[EntilZha]

I hope we get to see what goes in that cell in the next strip. :smallbiggrin:

[Cobra_Ikari]

If Tuesday comes with another meanwhile, or any topic other than the contents of that room, I predict outrage at the clifhanger.

[EntilZha]

I think I'm in love with Wanda, now...

I've been in love with Wanda since Strip 1, this strip has to date been the highlight of my Erfworld patronage. :smallsmile:

[zachol]

Ha ha, excellent.

Panel 4 is very arresting.
In an awesome "well..." way.

Hmm. The PClips style thing is amusing as well.

[EpeeGnome]

On the one hand, I didn't really enjoy this update as much as usual. On the other hand, I know that a lot a material is just setup for future material. That's what makes the humor so rich and deeply woven. (i.e. The Stanley the Tool joke which seems setup from the beginning.)
And thats not to say I didn't enjoy it. As a PartiallyClips reader I loved the MeanWhile intro, and several of the jokes where funny. Today's just didn't click with me, and I can't figure out why.

[The Dirge]

I never knew Wanda was into that...

[Cobra_Ikari]

That whip looks suspiciously like a cat-o'-nine-tails. OUCH!

I feel sorry for Jillian...you can kill someone with one of those!

[prufock]

When I first saw it, I instantly thought of the Mord-sith from Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series, they wear white leather outfits, but not during their torture sessions, they wear the blood red for that. Wanda's last line only increased that train of thought.

Well, generally they wear brown leather on a day-to-day basis. Red is for torture sessions or battle. White is only for those who have completely broken a pet, or have chosen a mate.

[Kanthalion]

I never knew Wanda was into that...

She's a croakamancer, she has spells to cause headaches, she is the Tool's XO, how could she NOT be "into that"? ;-)

[Cobra_Ikari]

Out of curiosity (I don't know too much about the subject), would a cat be common in S&M styled things? I've alwas seen that as a tool of true punishment. Or is it a cat to be used in the traditional style and not the cat style?

[Solarious]

Ah, Wanda really is into torture/interrogation, if those rampant rumors about a hidden Jil/Wand relationship aren't true. Part of me is sad, but that's squashed by the part of me who loves a fellow sadist. In white leather, no less!

I add my share of the praise to the Partially Clips beginning of the strip.

"He looks like a pink you, but with deph perception" - nominee of the best phrase of the strip

[Beelzebub1111]

HOT times two to the power of infinity minus one!

[agentx42]

Ohhhhh, so she's into freaky-deaky S&M. Well, that's... actually, it's absolutely no surprise whatsoever.

The Wanda scenes alone are about thisclose to becoming a 2 AM Cinemax movie. Pass the popcorn.

[Furin]

I wonder why Wanda sends both guards away, very suspicious... Am really looking forward to the real relationship between her and Ms. Getcaughtalot being revealed.

[Tariskat]

If they're in cahoots, that would sure explain why Wanda looked so worried about Stanley's comment about 'who likes the dungeon food'. I thought she was thinking he'd throw her in, but maybe she thought 'oh man not Jillian again...?'

[Midnight Lurker]

My heads just exploded...

[Axorcist]

Yay for bondage Wanda!

[TinSoldier]

Yay for bondage Wanda!That... sounds like a new action figure :smallconfused: .

[TheAnimal]

Holy fanservice, Batman! I think I just had a Wandagasm. She is so... stern and in control.
Personally, I'm glad Bogroll seems to be having a bit of luck for change. I kind of sympathize with the poor fool.
The quip about cyclops' lack of depth perception? Comedy gold. :smallbiggrin:
(Got to wonder why cyclopses were ranged attackers in the Heroes of Might & Magic series... :smallconfused:)

[Eldae]

Here's a question... why the emphasis on the keys in panel 7?

[Grep Agni]

Wanda, she is awsome!!!!
but i kinda find that her head is WAY too big...

Wanda's pants are pretty tight. Maybe hew head expands when her body is squeezed -- like this guy (http://www.kleargear.com/1130.html).

[factotum]

(Got to wonder why cyclopses were ranged attackers in the Heroes of Might & Magic series... :smallconfused:)

I don't think there would be much of a difference in depth perception between one eye and two eyes at any sort of distance--our eyes aren't far enough apart to provide a decent parallax for anything very distant; we probably just use familiarity with the size of objects to provide depth perception at that range, and a cyclops could do exactly the same.

Anyway, awesome strip, but it still leaves the whole "what the heck is Wanda going to do to Jillian?" thing hanging--there are at least three good possibilities, although one of them might be a bit X rated for a webcomic. :smallwink:

[Cobra_Ikari]

I don't think there would be much of a difference in depth perception between one eye and two eyes at any sort of distance--our eyes aren't far enough apart to provide a decent parallax for anything very distant; we probably just use familiarity with the size of objects to provide depth perception at that range, and a cyclops could do exactly the same.

Anyway, awesome strip, but it still leaves the whole "what the heck is Wanda going to do to Jillian?" thing hanging--there are at least three good possibilities, although one of them might be a bit X rated for a webcomic. :smallwink:

I have been told by a one eyed darts master that depth perception can be trained, too. I'm just assuming Bogroll lacks the intelligence and wisdom to have tried that. Poor cyclops...

Also, I'm not sure about the cyclops you're talking about, but in my mind, ranged attack of a cyclops would be throwing something like a boulder. With that, when in doubt, aim short, and you've still crushed the poor target.

[Krytha]

SO! Anyone still think she was scared?

[Minchandre]

SO! Anyone still think she was scared?

Apparently yes; read above.

[The Dirge]

She's a croakamancer, she has spells to cause headaches, she is the Tool's XO, how could she NOT be "into that"? ;-)

Oh...*Grins*

[Demented]

Ooohh... barracuda.

Wanda got foxy. Well, more foxy at any rate.
Though, I can't help but wonder if there's some sort of reference in there somewhere.

Oh, and there's that hobgoblin from the Calvin Klein ad too.

[Dragor]

Is it possible to make your eyes widen in fear from a webcomic?

That happened when I saw Wanda in that outfit.

[The_Shaman]

"The prisoner can't do anything to me that I don't order her to."
Well I'll be. That outfit alone can start a fashion trend among dominatrices :smallamused: Say, something more sporty and laid-back...

[Alfryd]

Holy fanservice, Batman!
Agreed.
It's actually a decent strip, though. Humour was good, there was nothing notably inane or incomprehensible, and the artwork shows some improvement.

...but i kinda find that her head is WAY too big...
But the absence of fingers doesn't bother ya... I think it's a stylistic thing. I think.

[Strengfellow]

Pure unadulterated class,

[Om]

Here's a question... why the emphasis on the keys in panel 7?Is the emphasis on the key's or Wanda's figure? :smallwink:

[Kalessin]

Her figure, o'course.

[mikeejimbo]

There is but one word that can accurately describe this comic: Kinky.

[Kenyon]

Rawr. Nice comic.

Didn't get the black-and-white part initially, thanks to the forum for clearing that up for me.

I forsee the Parson/Bogroll tag-team being mighty fun comedy.

[Sebastian]

Is the emphasis on the key's or Wanda's figure? :smallwink:

Not to nitpick, but shouldn't we be able to see the red strings with the camera in that position?


OK, it was to nitpick.

Also, in that picture Wanda look like has fingers.

[Fhaolan]

I don't think there would be much of a difference in depth perception between one eye and two eyes at any sort of distance--our eyes aren't far enough apart to provide a decent parallax for anything very distant; we probably just use familiarity with the size of objects to provide depth perception at that range, and a cyclops could do exactly the same.

Surprisingly enough, it does make a difference.

I do archery as a hobby, but while I was able to get fairly skilled at fixed targets, I couldn't deal with targets that moved or switching from one target to another that were at different distances. I had serious astigmatism which caused me to lack depth perception.

Then I had that lasic surgery to correct my eyesight, most of which was correcting the astigmatism. [I still have less than stellar eyesight, but the astigmatism is gone.] Suddenly, I had depth perception, which I had never had before. For a short time, everything was very, very weird. Once I had gotten used to it, my archery skills increased by quite a bit. Switching targets, moving targets, all became much easier.

[TheAnimal]

"The prisoner can't do anything to me that I don't order her to."
Fanservicy goodness galore, coming right up! Boy, I can't wait to see the next strip. :smalltongue:

[Quel Technoh]

You know, with the strange things that happen in this comic, Jillian and Wanda may just talk over tea and biscuits...

[Solharath]

FAAAAAAaaaaaan Service!

Cookie to anyone who knows what I'm quoting.

[TheOtherMC]

Bow Chika Bow Wow!

[Estelindis]

I found this one rather surprising. I guess I'll just wait to see where it goes. But I wonder if Wanda's being just a bit too obvious for everyone else's benefit...

[AyuVince]

I'm starting to believe more and more that Wanda's role in this comic is to provide fanservice...

[TheAnimal]

^Not only that, she's also the "straight (wo)man" character of the comic.

[Space-Is-Curved]

You know, with the strange things that happen in this comic, Jillian and Wanda may just talk over tea and biscuits...
I was gonna say something along those lines.
;) Kinky

[Kanthalion]

I'm starting to believe more and more that Wanda's role in this comic is to provide fanservice...

And there is a problem with that because...?

[5tephen]

As has been said before, by a 1337ier poster than I:

OMGWANDAGASM!

[Suri]

"Guards, Attention!"
"Parts of me were, now all of me is!"
BAHAHAHAHAHA!:smallbiggrin:

[OOTS_Rules.]

Now I can definately see Parson x Wanda happening.

[astatine]

Now I can definately see Parson x Wanda happening.

I'm not so sure after the way she described him as "a pink (Bogroll) with depth perception". The personalities might mesh well if they can both loosen up a little though.

[Cobra_Ikari]

Ah, but look at my thread on Wanda and Bogroll. She might have a thing for that...:P

[mikeejimbo]

I'm not so sure after the way she described him as "a pink (Bogroll) with depth perception". The personalities might mesh well if they can both loosen up a little though.

She seems to be one of the people that treats Bogroll well, though. Perhaps it can happen.

Wait, it was PARSON x Wanda, never mind.

Edit: Ninja'd, and here I thought I was the only sick-minded one.

[Umael]

I don't know if it has been observed yet, but I'm wondering about the other part of Wanda's description of Parson to Bogroll.

She tells Bogroll that Parson is like him, only pink and has depth perception.

Very amusing, but it honestly makes me wonder about the size of Parson. To be exact, I wonder if Parson is bigger than Bogroll.

We don't have much for comparison, but Parson has been seen next to Wanda and Stanley, so we know how big they are, and Wanda and Bogroll were shown close together, so we know how big Bogroll is... doesn't it seem like Parson should actually be bigger than Bogroll?


Wanda vs. Bogroll, panel 6 shows Wanda coming up to Bogroll's neck. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erf0028.html)


Wanda vs. Parson, panel 16 shows Wanda coming up to Parson's mid-chest. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erf0020.html)

[Cobra_Ikari]

I think she was referring to "tall and fattish", more than actual specifics.

But, yeah, Parson would be an intimidating beast on the battlefield if he's a head taller than a twoll. Easy target, though...

[Mr Teufel]

My problem with making judgments based on Wanda's apparent size is her head keeps changing sizes. In panel 4 it's clearly wider than her shoulders, but in the last panel (#10) it's clearly far less wide. Indeed, most of the time it's far smaller.

I think artistic consistancy is important in sequential art.

[Thanatos]

Also, in that picture Wanda look like has fingers.

The Erflings have fingers when it's artistically necessary. In some comics they have stubby tentacles for arms, and other times they have mitten hands and normal arms. In close ups or when using their fingers, you see them. As the comic runs longer, stylistic things like that will probably settle down some... it happens for most comics, at least.

[cyberchihuahua]

Heres a thought.

Wanda summoned jillian, which explains the "she can't do anything" line. Wanda was always the power behind the throne, and liked it that way. However, TOOL is putting the whole thing at risk, thus forcing Wanda to summon parson and win the war.

Perhaps in the end, we will see tool dead, parson sent back home, and Wanda turning gobwin knob into a kirk style love nest / arken tool research facility / kirk style love nest.

After #28, there is definatly something more than a love of torture going on.

[jami]

I think artistic consistancy is important in sequential art.

Are you saying my work is inconsistant because head sizes have changed? Wow, you guys are brutal.

Honestly, I'm more concerned with storytelling than I am with making sure everything is drawn the same time every single time. If you can tell that Erfworld is all drawn by the same person, I've done my job.

[Cobra_Ikari]

Are you saying my work is inconsistant because head sizes have changed? Wow, you guys are brutal.

Honestly, I'm more concerned with storytelling than I am with making sure everything is drawn the same time every single time. If you can tell that Erfworld is all drawn by the same person, I've done my job.

I think he's the exception, I think your art's brilliant.

[MolotovH]

First, I'd like to say: HAWT!!!

Then, I'd like to say: Yay! More Bogroll!

And finally...


Is it possible to make your eyes widen in fear from a webcomic?

That happened when I saw Wanda in that outfit.

Did you just step out of Fear of Girls, man? :confused:

[Fronko]

You kn ow, seriously, if wanda keeps whipping around in that outfit of hers, I dont give a damn if her head was the size of ... whatever.

Jamie, you know, you made my day!

God, I sound like a thirteen year old ... ;)

[Idless]

She always been hawt ;)

Hmmm and she wants to be alone... ;) :P :D



Don't normally see villainous ladies in white


Who says she is villainous ??


...Idless

[Lefty the Drunken Lush]

In my head, Bogroll sounds like Andre the Giant from The Princess Bride.

[TheAnimal]

I think he's the exception, I think your art's brilliant.
Quoted for truth.

[GKBeetle]

I don't know if someone said this already, but for some reason, Wanda's head looks frigging huge in this one. It's like it's bigger than it used to be or something. I don't know if it's an illusion or something, but man she looks weird.

EDIT: Now I do see someone else mentioned it. It was no big deal. In fact, I think the only reason I noticed it was because of what Wanda was wearing and I went back to gawk. Love the art. :)

[Daedalus73]

Sorry, not a fan of this one at all. I prefer to get my daily dose of kink from sources other than webcomics.

[jami]

You kn ow, seriously, if wanda keeps whipping around in that outfit of hers, I dont give a damn if her head was the size of ... whatever.

Jamie, you know, you made my day!

God, I sound like a thirteen year old ... ;)

HAHAH!!

I probably shouldn't read the forum when I'm in a bad mood. Can't take things too personally here.

[Cobra_Ikari]

Huh. I'm suprised no one's found an increased desire for an Erfworld convention. I was sure cosplayers would get mixed in here somewhere...

[GKBeetle]

Huh. I'm suprised no one's found an increased desire for an Erfworld convention. I was sure cosplayers would get mixed in here somewhere...

Eww, cosplayers are weird! Dressing up like a character that I like is just too much work. I've never been that big of a fan of anything ever in my life.

[the_tick_rules]

yes, i can't wait for the "interrogation" to begin.

[Belphegor]

No wonder Jillian gets captured so many times...

I think I had a Wandagasm.

[Cobra_Ikari]

Eww, cosplayers are weird! Dressing up like a character that I like is just too much work. I've never been that big of a fan of anything ever in my life.

*shrugs* I don't cosplay, but it doesn't bother me. I think the effort some people put in is awesome!

And I meant I was surprised no one was looking out for people cosplaying as "Interrogator Wanda"...:P

[Dratsabre Tsabala]

I know that most of the focus has been on pertinent developments concerning Wanda and Jillian, Wanda x Jillian, or the sheer glorious VOLUME of Wanda that's visible in her current outfit, but I've got to say that the part of #28 that piqued my interest most was Bogroll being assigned to Parson.

Two portly self-esteem cases, fish-out-of-water that have been thoroughly shat upon by life and the universe, paired up under the full burden of winning an all-or-nothing war against insurmountable odds at the 11th hour? I think there's some real potential there as a catalyst for character development or Hallmark Movie-of-the-Week-style life lessons.

Oh, and Parson x Bogroll.

AHAHAHAHAHAAA~~ there is no cleaning product in existence that will get THAT stain out of your mind.

[SteveMB]

Oh, and Parson x Bogroll.
Thanks for that image. I need to soak my brain in acid now.

[noralives]

Oh, and Parson x Bogroll.

AHAHAHAHAHAAA~~ there is no cleaning product in existence that will get THAT stain out of your mind.

Aaaaaaagh. Brain-scrubbage time, I think...<.< Anyone got soap?

[fangthane]

I think people are reading way too much into things and assuming they correspond to our reality; the truth is that Erfworld's a turn-based game with specific rules no more mutable than our gravity, which may affect the meaning of certain actions or attitudes.

For example, Wanda may know that regardless of guards, any interrogation involves a 20% chance the prisoner will escape, and never involves any real risk to the inquisitor - so why bother having guards once she's ready to begin? Alternatively, Jillian may like the ladies and Wanda might be interested in tantalizing her by dangling (ahem) forbidden fruit.

To Rob and Jamie (since I know you do read this stuff, at least at times), I'm definitely less unimpressed than initially; you're maintaining and growing a substantial lead over D&D: The Animated Series, and while I don't expect your comic to equal Brooks or Donaldson for depth, it's not entirely horrible as long as you're not thrusting ORLY/YARLY/WTFBBQ in everywhere. I'm still not quite impressed overall, but you're pulling out of the pit those stupid internet memes dug for you and that's not bad.

[wowy319]

giggetygiggetygiggety!!!

Very nice comic. I look forward to seeing where it goes from here.

[Khantalas]

Oh, and Parson x Bogroll.

OMGWTFBBQ!

That's very sweet! Awww!!!

Yes, I'm quite confident in my masculinity.

[Cobra_Ikari]

OMGWTFBBQ!

That's very sweet! Awww!!!

Yes, I'm quite confident in my masculinity.

Sweet, yes. The physics of a relationship between Parson and any Erfworldian scare me, though.

[WebMonk]

Yes, but the physics of Parson and Bogroll come closer to workable than Parson and Wanda. Wanda had better hope that Parson is the prizewinner in the smallest package award (package - as discussed in OotS 418) otherwise she'll be in a WORLD of hurt.

But who knows, if she's into BDSM maybe she's into pain.

[Silverlocke980]

Mung is the greatest addition to the comic, EVER.

" Parts of me already were. Now all of me is."

He's so brutally honest and hilarious- "this conversation is a gold mine"- that he just takes the cake.

Though go Bogwoll for getting promoted!

[Andvare]

I have been reading OOTS for a long time, only glancing at Erfworld, but now I have read the whole thing. Though short, too short (more! I crave more!), it's fantastic! Keep up the good work.

[Fronko]

Hehe, I can only imagine the big evil grin on pclips´ and jami´s face, having shaken up this little community. Must be a great feeling to have sent half this forum into a state of drooling stupor.

You two ever thought of picking up the profession of crack dealers? You seem to have a certain talent for it ... ;)

(Seriously, please take this as the funny remark it is meant to be!)

[Tzomg]

If this be pandering, make the most of it.

[Mr Teufel]

I'm enjoying the comic.

I'm not generally bothered by minor inconsistensies in the artwork, but this page just made it so blatantly obvious I found it hard to ignore.

[rob]

Does the start of erf 28 remind yall of the comic Red Meat? I've only read a few of the pclips pages, and they seem quite similar as well, but Mung's character reminded me a lot of milkman dan... Or is this just because pclips and red meat are somewhat similar

Red meat is easiest to find in the arts and entertainment paper of most big cities (city paper; houston press, etc... all basically owned by the same company).

[Rhuna_Coppermane]

OK, for one, yes, cats are used in BDSM. They're much more common that single-tails, actually. There's not enough detail to see whewther that's a braided cat or not (the tails are either single strips of leather, or multiple ones braided togather), but I think not. It definitely doesn't have anything like large knots or beads on the end, which would do some serious damage.

Cats generally do considerably less damage than single-tails, as a cat spreads the force out and a single-tail concentrates it.

*grin* I do believe I have just thoroughly outed myself here.

Anyway, anybody but me wondering if the prisoner is actually the top? "..can't do anything I don't order her to." Oh, the possibilities. :redface:

[SteveMB]

OK, for one, yes, cats are used in BDSM. They're much more common that single-tails, actually. There's not enough detail to see whewther that's a braided cat or not (the tails are either single strips of leather, or multiple ones braided togather), but I think not. It definitely doesn't have anything like large knots or beads on the end, which would do some serious damage.

Cats generally do considerably less damage than single-tails, as a cat spreads the force out and a single-tail concentrates it.

*grin* I do believe I have just thoroughly outed myself here.
While I don't claim to have any knowledge based on personal experience, I would assume that it's possible to design the "toy" versions to maximize the look-and-feel while minimizing any real injury.

[Thanatos]

While I don't claim to have any knowledge based on personal experience, I would assume that it's possible to design the "toy" versions to maximize the look-and-feel while minimizing any real injury.
Actual cat-of-nine-tails whips were made out of hard leather and sinew, were about double the length of the play versions, and had bits of metal stuck through the braids towards the ends. That's the serious kind that would kill someone, and I hope no one is stupid enough to use one in play.

Play versions are usually made from silk or satin rope, or soft leather. I have a couple I made myself out of leather that look about the same as Wanda's. A short cat-of-nines is often called a "scourge" and are only a couple feet long including the handle. Even with knots at the ends, it would be very difficult to break the skin with one - a riding crop is probably more dangerous in that regard. Still, as with any toy of that sort, test it on yourself before you try it on anyone else.

[spite48]

Are you saying my work is inconsistant because head sizes have changed? Wow, you guys are brutal.

Honestly, I'm more concerned with storytelling than I am with making sure everything is drawn the same time every single time. If you can tell that Erfworld is all drawn by the same person, I've done my job.

I didn't notice any problem, and looking back, I still don't think there is a problem. Someone will find something to complain about, but most of us are quietly, enthusiastically enjoying the ride.

[Cobra_Ikari]

Actual cat-of-nine-tails whips were made out of hard leather and sinew, were about double the length of the play versions, and had bits of metal stuck through the braids towards the ends. That's the serious kind that would kill someone, and I hope no one is stupid enough to use one in play.

Play versions are usually made from silk or satin rope, or soft leather. I have a couple I made myself out of leather that look about the same as Wanda's. A short cat-of-nines is often called a "scourge" and are only a couple feet long including the handle. Even with knots at the ends, it would be very difficult to break the skin with one - a riding crop is probably more dangerous in that regard. Still, as with any toy of that sort, test it on yourself before you try it on anyone else.

Given that she's going in there ostensibly for torture, shouldn't it be at least somewhat dangerous? I had assumed it was a real one...

[scwizard]

Are you saying my work is inconsistant because head sizes have changed? Wow, you guys are brutal.

Honestly, I'm more concerned with storytelling than I am with making sure everything is drawn the same time every single time. If you can tell that Erfworld is all drawn by the same person, I've done my job.
If you look at the first 100 or so of ANY web comic, the drawing is inconsistent, bad or both. Even and especially the famous ones (Megatokyo, Penny Arcade).

Should you stop reading Erfworld because its following this trend? Hell no!

BTW: It's the story telling that makes a comic. Your story telling is pwnage. The story telling for the more famous story based comics was also pwnage at the beginning, and that's what made those comics.

[Thanatos]

Given that she's going in there ostensibly for torture, shouldn't it be at least somewhat dangerous? I had assumed it was a real one...
The ends aren't detailed enough to see if they're just knotted or barbed. We don't see Jillian as all scarred up, and we know she's been caught a number of times before, so I am assuming they're knots.

Still, just because it doesn't break your body doesn't mean it won't hurt like hell. There are those who like it (or at least, enjoy it mentally to a point), and some people even get a reaction where their body starts dropping lots of endorphins as a coping mechanism. Sexual arousal does that to some extent in most anyone (getting scratched or bitten during sex is much different than if it's done during a fight, for example).

Wanda may have "broken" Jillian before, so it doesn't take much to do it again. Jillian, as a powerful woman, might want (even unconsciously) to let someone else take the control role for a while. It's not true BDSM play unless both parties openly consent, so while Wanda might be having fun playing, it's still technically torture to Jillian... unless maybe she's risking capture on purpose, in hopes of another visit.

[Nerd_Paladin]

OK, for one, yes, cats are used in BDSM. They're much more common that single-tails, actually. There's not enough detail to see whewther that's a braided cat or not (the tails are either single strips of leather, or multiple ones braided togather), but I think not. It definitely doesn't have anything like large knots or beads on the end, which would do some serious damage.


And here I've never know anyone to actually use a whip of any kind, it's generally considered cliche. To each their own.

[DCR]

Are you saying my work is inconsistant because head sizes have changed? Wow, you guys are brutal.

Honestly, I'm more concerned with storytelling than I am with making sure everything is drawn the same time every single time. If you can tell that Erfworld is all drawn by the same person, I've done my job.

It's Erf's style, IMO. Mittens or hands, SD/chibi heads... proportion and size is supposed to change and wander, it's the syle!

28 observations: Mung is waaaaaay too smart to dig his own grave by talking about anything Wanda wouldn't want talked about. Bogroll isn't, so he's 'promoted'. Mung in '08!

[Thanatos]

And here I've never know anyone to actually use a whip of any kind, it's generally considered cliche. To each their own.
It's not a fashion statement, it's an adult toy... use what works (within sane limits).