Ninja Pathfinder-Forgotten Trick

[Tvtyrant]

The Forgotten Trick ability that the Pathfinder Ninja can choose allows them to choose another Ninja trick and use it for a number of rounds equal to their ninja level. Using Forgotten Trick on Rogue Talent and then on the Ki Pool talent nets you bonus ki points equal to half your wisdom modifier. Is there anyway to abuse this for infinite Ki points that isn't crippling (due to the extremely high wisdom and charisma needed?)

[Ravens_cry]

The best I can think is to make Wisdom one of your primary stats with Wisdom of the Flesh (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/religion-traits/wisdom-in-the-flesh-god-of-perfection) trait to get Acrobatics or Stealth to key of Wisdom and the Guided weapon property (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapons-non-core/weapon-property---guided) to get Attack and Damage to key off Wisdom. If your DM isn't comfortable with Guided, see about the Guided Hand feat (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/-guided-hand), it gives you wisdom to hit with your god's favoured weapon. It does mean a feat tax and a dip in Cleric or Oracle though.

[grarrrg]

Slight problem with your plan:
"Forgotten Trick (Ex): A ninja with this ability...selects one ninja trick (not a master trick or rogue talent) that she..."

So no Ki Pool > Ki Pool.

Even if it did work, I'd be inclined to say that when the duration was up you'd lose an equal amount of Ki that you had gained. So outside of "last ditch effort" it would be a net loss of 2 Ki every time you used it.

[Tvtyrant]

Slight problem with your plan:
"Forgotten Trick (Ex): A ninja with this ability...selects one ninja trick (not a master trick or rogue talent) that she..."

So no Ki Pool > Ki Pool.

Even if it did work, I'd be inclined to say that when the duration was up you'd lose an equal amount of Ki that you had gained. So outside of "last ditch effort" it would be a net loss of 2 Ki every time you used it.

You aren't, you are taking a ninja trick and that ninja trick gets you a rogue talent.

This is a fair point, I might ping the Pathfinder forums to see if any designers would weigh in on it.

[grarrrg]

You aren't, you are taking a ninja trick and that ninja trick gets you a rogue talent.

Yeah, but considering that a Ninja can ONLY take a Rogue Talent by way of Ninja Trick, then I think that is what was intended by the "no rogue talent" line.