I just ran into something and i need to know how this works

[Hazrond]

ok so i am making an incorporeal character for another game but i need to know, how much can he carry due to incorporeal making strength a nonability score? :smallconfused: also i might be wrong but i remember reading that incorporeal stuff has no weight, since items i grab become incorporeal does that make them weightless, armor and weapons too?

[Firest Kathon]

You actually cannot pick up anything, so this is not a factor.

In fact, they cannot take any physical action that would move or manipulate an opponent or its equipment, nor are they subject to such actions.

A special case would be the D20 Ghost (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/ghost.htm), which exists normally on the Ethereal Plane (where it also has a Strength score and normal carrying capacity applies) but counts as an incorporeal creature on the material plane.

Rules:

D20 Special Ability (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#incorporeality)
D20 Creature Subtype (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#incorporealSubtype)
Pathfinder Universal Monster Rule (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/universal-monster-rules#TOC-Incorporeal-Ex-)
Pathfinder Creature Subtype (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/creature-types#TOC-Incorporeal)

[Hazrond]

You actually cannot pick up anything, so this is not a factor.


A special case would be the D20 Ghost (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/ghost.htm), which exists normally on the Ethereal Plane (where it also has a Strength score and normal carrying capacity applies) but counts as an incorporeal creature on the material plane.

Rules:

D20 Special Ability (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#incorporeality)
D20 Creature Subtype (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#incorporealSubtype)
Pathfinder Universal Monster Rule (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/universal-monster-rules#TOC-Incorporeal-Ex-)
Pathfinder Creature Subtype (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/creature-types#TOC-Incorporeal)


That's not quite what's going on, I'm playing an incorporeal creature with the Ghostly Grasp feat

[Inevitability]

Libris Mortis has information on it. They specify that anything carried by an incorporeal creature becomes incorporeal too.

[Hazrond]

Libris Mortis has information on it. They specify that anything carried by an incorporeal creature becomes incorporeal too.

That much I know but are the incorporeal items weightless?

[Segev]

That much I know but are the incorporeal items weightless?

They must be. This has...potential.

[Hazrond]

They must be. This has...potential.

Carry ALL the things!!! ;)

[Jeff the Green]

...incorporeal Hulking Hurler?

Can you pick up the earth, thereby turning it incorporeal, move it a hundred feet or so, and then drop it, giving everyone falling damage or shunting them out?

[weckar]

...incorporeal Hulking Hurler?

Can you pick up the earth, thereby turning it incorporeal, move it a hundred feet or so, and then drop it, giving everyone falling damage or shunting them out?
Mother of God :smallcool:

[PraxisVetli]

This brings to mind that black hole pig thread a while back.

[nedz]

...incorporeal Hulking Hurler?

Can you pick up the earth, thereby turning it incorporeal, move it a hundred feet or so, and then drop it, giving everyone falling damage or shunting them out?

No need to move it anywhere, just keep it incorporeal.
Gravity is not part of RAW, but if it's Rule 0'd in then everything on the planet will fall toward their centre of mass in a spiral. Dropping the earth will then return it to corporeality thus burying everybody.

[weckar]

No need to move it anywhere, just keep it incorporeal.
Gravity is not part of RAW, but if it's Rule 0'd in then everything on the planet will fall toward their centre of mass in a spiral. Dropping the earth will then return it to corporeality thus burying everybody.The centre of mass.... of the mass that isn't there anymore? Gravity would just disappear with it.

[Hazrond]

...incorporeal Hulking Hurler?

Can you pick up the earth, thereby turning it incorporeal, move it a hundred feet or so, and then drop it, giving everyone falling damage or shunting them out?

I have to do this if I ever play one of those crazy games

[nedz]

The centre of mass.... of the mass that isn't there anymore? Gravity would just disappear with it.

The center of mass of everything which was standing on the earth at the time — which is likely to be near where the center of the planet used to be. Also: because there is less mass, gravity will be reduced.

[weckar]

I could see this working on Eberron, considering it's peanut size means that the relative mass of the planet to its inhabitants will be much smaller.... Something actually Earth-sized, though....

[nedz]

I could see this working on Eberron, considering it's peanut size means that the relative mass of the planet to its inhabitants will be much smaller.... Something actually Earth-sized, though....

The mass of the earth is irrelevant, Humans warp space and time just the same. The attraction will be small, but the Incorporeal Hulking Hurler has no limit to how long he can hang on to the planet for.

[weckar]

It is relevant in determining the relative strength of the new gravity in comparison to the old one. If it is particularly low, mass ejection from anyone subjected may be enough to overcome it.

[nedz]

Well assuming that they understand orbital mechanics — which is unlikely as it's quite counter intuitive.

[weckar]

Of course. I am just saying that the amount of matter removed matters.