Frozen Berserker + Blazing Berserker

[Smorgonoffz]

In the great barbarian guide written by Eldariel is written that:

Frozen berserker and blazing berserker stack with each other, i'd like to know why?.
I remember that having the fire subtype wouldn't let you get the ice subtype and viceversa.

[squiggit]

I can't find any rule of the sort.

[Hazrond]

In the great barbarian guide written by Eldariel is written that:

Frozen berserker and blazing berserker stack with each other, i'd like to know why?.
I remember that having the fire subtype wouldn't let you get the ice subtype and viceversa.

That would be a houserule good sir :smallamused:

[Red Fel]

It is possible to have opposing subtypes. For example, I remember an Outsider (although the name escapes me) that was the demented spawn of LG Outsiders and LE Outsiders. The result was some sort of LN Murderbeast with the (Good) and (Evil) subtypes.

[SpawnOfMorbo]

That would be a houserule good sir :smallamused:


Like so many "rules" that get thrown around.

[Darrin]

Frozen berserker and blazing berserker stack with each other, i'd like to know why?.

Partly because the designers didn't anticipate that players would treat templates as an all-you-can-eat smorgasbord, but mostly because it's funny.

[Necroticplague]

Frozen berserker and blazing berserker stack with each other, i'd like to know why?.
I remember that having the fire subtype wouldn't let you get the ice subtype and viceversa.

Why wouldn't they? The rule you're talking about doesn't actually exist. Its not under Fire (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/glossary&term=Glossary_dnd_firesubtype&alpha=), cold (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/glossary&term=Glossary_dnd_coldsubtype&alpha=C), or just subtype (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/glossary&term=Glossary_dnd_subtype&alpha=S) in general.

[Waddacku]

Partly because the designers didn't anticipate that players would treat templates as an all-you-can-eat smorgasbord, but mostly because it's funny.
Those are both completely regular feats, though.

[Mato]

Frozen berserker and blazing berserker stack with each other, i'd like to know why?They do stack with each other, and why is because rule wise it's allowed to have both (there is even a printed dragon in FR with both subtypes) and damage wise 0x1.5 is still 0 given us stacking conditions where having both subtypes is favorable.

[Ravens_cry]

Have a Giant Barbarian with both feats and call him Ymir.:smalltongue:

[Smorgonoffz]

Thanks to everyone .

[XmonkTad]

It is possible to have opposing subtypes. For example, I remember an Outsider (although the name escapes me) that was the demented spawn of LG Outsiders and LE Outsiders. The result was some sort of LN Murderbeast with the (Good) and (Evil) subtypes.

You're thinking of the Concordant Killer from MM4. It doesn't actually have both good and evil subtypes, though it can use all the detection alignment spells and all its weapons are holy/unholy/axiomatic/anarchic. I think the pact primeval is both good and evil and it confuses those who walk near it.

More to the OP, yeah, mix subtypes all you want. Good/evil, lawful/chaotic, fire/cold, native/extraplanar, or all of the above. Your head may start attracting books if you add on too many.