Ancient Red Dragon preview needs a bit more to unlock

[Envyus]

Wotc has stated that if their D&D face book page gets 600k likes before tomorrow they will give us the statblock of the Ancient Red Dragon. In order to do so could some of you go over there and like it. It's only 73 likes away from the goal.

https://www.facebook.com/dungeonsanddragons

It should be a cool to unlock this.

[Muenster Man]

Do you know what time zone they're going by? Because I'm in Eastern Standard Time and it's already Monday :smallfrown:

Edit: Looks like they're basing it on Gen Con, which I think goes by EST.

[Envyus]

My bet is when they wake up in the morning and feel like checking.

[Muenster Man]

Looks like they ended up releasing the scans
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[Totema]

An ancient dragon with less than 20 intelligence? Scandalous!

[Muenster Man]

They're barely even geniuses!

[rlc]

wow, those sound pretty scary. i like it.

[pwykersotz]

I'm intrigued that dragons have no magic in 5e. Intrigued, and a little sad.

[Grynning]

Their Lair abilities are very magical and take the place of their spells in my opinion. Someone on facebook said that dragons as a type still get spellcasting by default but that doesn't seem to fit with 5E's style, to me.

I personally am glad they do not have casting. Dragons having to select spells and have themselves pre-buffed before every combat made them a pain from the DM's perspective and made them punch above their weight CR-wise in 3rd ed.

[Muenster Man]

Their Lair abilities are very magical and take the place of their spells in my opinion. Someone on facebook said that dragons as a type still get spellcasting by default but that doesn't seem to fit with 5E's style, to me.

I personally am glad they do not have casting. Dragons having to select spells and have themselves pre-buffed before every combat made them a pain from the DM's perspective and made them punch above their weight CR-wise in 3rd ed.
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I think making it easier for the DM was the main reason to get rid of spellcasting. Seems to fit with their overall philosophy of streamlining everything.

[pwykersotz]

Their Lair abilities are very magical and take the place of their spells in my opinion. Someone on facebook said that dragons as a type still get spellcasting by default but that doesn't seem to fit with 5E's style, to me.

I personally am glad they do not have casting. Dragons having to select spells and have themselves pre-buffed before every combat made them a pain from the DM's perspective and made them punch above their weight CR-wise in 3rd ed.

Yep, excellent points. The simplicity is golden. Also, I wasn't aware of any racial spellcasting, so that's interesting.

[Prophet_of_Io]

My favorite dragon looks better than ever. Can't wait to use one.
I wonder if it'd be mean to toss a CR17 at a 5 person party of 4th level characters....

[pwykersotz]

My favorite dragon looks better than ever. Can't wait to use one.
I wonder if it'd be mean to toss a CR17 at a 5 person party of 4th level characters....

Nah, bounded accuracy means they have a pretty decent chance. Actually, you might want to throw in a few armored Kobold servants, just to keep the action economy in check.

:smalltongue:

[Envyus]

They do have innate spellcasting as a variant Rule. They get a number of spells equal to their Chamod or something like that.

[Giddonihah]

Dragons seem much easier to run this time around, I always hated running them in the past because I constantly felt I had to weaken them from 'optimal' tactics. And If you want to complicate them adding spells and minions will do it.