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[CryptbornAkryea]

Can one stack Girallon's Blessing with itself? End up with 6 - 8 arms?

[sideswipe]

as far as i understand, further castings just refresh the duration.....

that being said, if you changed it to a power through STP erudite..... it might work as it isn't really the same anymore. especially it you are playing psionics and magic are different, then it would almost defiantly stack.

[CryptbornAkryea]

If you compare it to the savage species version it looks like it was intended for that possibility


and what is stp erudite?

[Fax Celestis]

No.

What you can do, however, is get more arms from other sources.

Girallon's blessing + arms of plenty (LoM) + two levels of totemist and Girallon Arms soulmeld is eight arms total. There's a (totally not worth it) faux-template in DMG-II that gives two more, and you could always start with a nonpsionic thri-kreen (MM-II), which has 2 RHD and +1 LA, four arms.

Which is twelve arms total.

[sideswipe]

the same rules for stacking spells applied in 3.0. so although it gave multiple arms it would have only given those first arms and again refreshed duration. but yeh the savage species 3.0 version is better IMO. but since it has a 3.5 update you would default to that :smallsigh:

but like i said, a similar spell, or the same thing as a different source (aka psionics) should stack.

edit - another point is that if you can dismiss it you could use it to destroy mundane armour if you use the 3.0 version :smallwink:

[CryptbornAkryea]

The end goal is to Fuse Arms.

Is there any reason one couldn't alternate GB, FA, GB, FA..?

[Fax Celestis]

The end goal is to Fuse Arms.

Is there any reason one couldn't alternate GB, FA, GB, FA..?

...yes, because you'd simply refresh the existing durations.

[sideswipe]

The end goal is to Fuse Arms.

Is there any reason one couldn't alternate GB, FA, GB, FA..?

because casting the same spell on the same creature that has a duration just refreshes the duration. basicly wipes the spell from them and then replaces it with a new version of the spell.

and the STP erudite is a spell to power erudite. its a psionic class that can turn arcane spells into psionic powers, and then teach them to other psions through their powers. so because you could argue that the power is not the spell you could cast it twice and get the bonus twice, but its iffy.

so you cast Girallon's Blessing and if you cast it again before it ends you will instead just start the same spell again from afresh. not add the spell.

[CryptbornAkryea]

Gotcha

thanks guys!

[Erik Vale]

Additionally, you can buy the ghostly arm graft to get additional arms for 3000gp/arm.

[Vogonjeltz]

because casting the same spell on the same creature that has a duration just refreshes the duration. basicly wipes the spell from them and then replaces it with a new version of the spell.

and the STP erudite is a spell to power erudite. its a psionic class that can turn arcane spells into psionic powers, and then teach them to other psions through their powers. so because you could argue that the power is not the spell you could cast it twice and get the bonus twice, but its iffy.

so you cast Girallon's Blessing and if you cast it again before it ends you will instead just start the same spell again from afresh. not add the spell.

Technically it doesn't refresh, each casting has its own distinct duration, which matters if some get dispelled, but not others.

[sideswipe]

Technically it doesn't refresh, each casting has its own distinct duration, which matters if some get dispelled, but not others.

i was summing up the effect to make it easier to explain, rather than talking about stacking spells it is easier in your mind when learning it to think of it as a refresh, in effect it is but in reality when you delve deep it is an overlap. you are correct.

[Vogonjeltz]

i was summing up the effect to make it easier to explain, rather than talking about stacking spells it is easier in your mind when learning it to think of it as a refresh, in effect it is but in reality when you delve deep it is an overlap. you are correct.

I know, the nuance can make a difference when it comes to stacked buffs/debuffs.

[Darrin]

Which is twelve arms total.

You can get four more with anthropomorphic giant squid.