Multiclassing Cleric Variants questions

[crouchingmoose]

I've got a player looking at doing a Radiant Servant Cleric with a bit of DMM Persist (Which is what led to this question in the first place, but that's already been hashed out so, I don't want to go into it here). We were looking at him taking levels in both Cleric and Cloistered Cleric. To me, it seems like multiclassing between them is fine, but I have a question pertaining to spells from each class and how they should work.

Here is the character ATM.
Cloistered Cleric 1 (Spontaneous Domain 'Healing' ACF)
Cloistered Cleric 1 / Cleric 1
Cloistered Cleric 2 / Cleric 1
Cloistered Cleric 3 / Cleric 1
Cloistered Cleric 4 / Cleric 1
Cloistered Cleric 5 / Cleric 1
Cloistered Cleric 5 / Cleric 1 / Radiant Servant 1

Correct me if I'm wrong in my understanding of this, but this character has the spell slots of a 6th level Cleric (@ CL6) + the spell slots of a 1st level Cleric (@ CL1). This includes the bonus spells for high Wisdom for each, plus the Domain spells slots to each, correct?

Also, can this character use the Domain spell slots from the 1st level Cleric side to Spontaneously cast Healing Domain spells thanks to his ACF (at the appropriate CL) and vice versa for the cure spells?

Finally, if he continues with the Radiant Servant, will the Empower/Maximize/Supreme Healing affect the Healing spells cast from the 1st level character domain spell slots (once again at the appropriate CL)

[Vhaidara]

I'm almost positive you can't level in the class and a variant. It would be like taking Fighter 1/Fighter 1/Fighter 1 instead of Fighter 3.

That said, why are you taking the level in normal Cleric?

[Red Fel]

I've got a player looking at doing a Radiant Servant Cleric with a bit of DMM Persist (Which is what led to this question in the first place, but that's already been hashed out so, I don't want to go into it here). We were looking at him taking levels in both Cleric and Cloistered Cleric. To me, it seems like multiclassing between them is fine, but I have a question pertaining to spells from each class and how they should work.

Cloistered Cleric is a variant of Cleric. Generally speaking, you can't take levels of a class, and of a variant of that class. So this mix is a no-go.

[Larkas]

From the SRD:


Multiclassing And Variant Classes

Multiclassing between variants of the same class is a tricky subject. In cases where a single class offers a variety of paths (such as the totem barbarian or the monk fighting styles), the easiest solution is simply to bar multiclassing between different versions of the same class (just as a character can't multiclass between different versions of specialist wizards). For variants that are wholly separate from the character class—such as the bardic sage or the urban ranger—multiclassing, even into multiple variants of the same class, is probably okay. Identical class features should stack if gained from multiple versions of the same class (except for spellcasting, which is always separate).

In any case, only the first version of a favored class is treated as favored; a halfling rogue/wizard who later begins gaining levels in the wilderness rogue variant class can't treat both the rogue and wilderness rogue classes as favored, only the class gained first (in this case, rogue). Under no circumstances does spellcasting ability from multiple classes (even variants of the same class) stack. A character with levels of bard and levels of bardic sage has two separate caster levels and two separate sets of spells per day, even though the classes are very similar.

[Psyren]

It actually looks like you can ("probably okay.") Relevant text:


Multiclassing And Variant Classes
Multiclassing between variants of the same class is a tricky subject. In cases where a single class offers a variety of paths (such as the totem barbarian or the monk fighting styles), the easiest solution is simply to bar multiclassing between different versions of the same class (just as a character can't multiclass between different versions of specialist wizards). For variants that are wholly separate from the character class—such as the bardic sage or the urban ranger—multiclassing, even into multiple variants of the same class, is probably okay. Identical class features should stack if gained from multiple versions of the same class (except for spellcasting, which is always separate).

In any case, only the first version of a favored class is treated as favored; a halfling rogue/wizard who later begins gaining levels in the wilderness rogue variant class can't treat both the rogue and wilderness rogue classes as favored, only the class gained first (in this case, rogue). Under no circumstances does spellcasting ability from multiple classes (even variants of the same class) stack. A character with levels of bard and levels of bardic sage has two separate caster levels and two separate sets of spells per day, even though the classes are very similar.

Of course, the big problem is that spellcasting does not stack. So you will have cleric casting and cloistered cleric casting, making this pretty suboptimal.

[crouchingmoose]

Of course, the big problem is that spellcasting does not stack. So you will have cleric casting and cloistered cleric casting, making this pretty suboptimal.

That's what I thought, I was just hoping to see if anyone had a better understanding of how the 2 different castings would work and how would the interact with the other classes Spontaneous Casting abilities. (I'm guess the answer is just that they don't) We were trying to find out, because with all DMMing we've figured out, it makes up for the loss of a couple of caster levels.

[Xerlith]

You know, it seems poinless since you get only one Turning pool anyway.



Identical class features should stack if gained from multiple versions of the same class (except for spellcasting, which is always separate).


So he's better off not taking the level and getting the higher-level spells faster.
Which also seems to me as the clause of "a character can't multiclass between different versions of specialist wizard". But it's your game and DMM persistzilla will be your problem if you let him. :smalltongue: