[PF/3.X] Bull Rushing... train?

[The Insanity]

What Bull Rush modifier could a train have? Assume it's an average, modern train. We use PF CMB/CMD.

[Yanisa]

The boring answer: +8 CMB, 18 CMD. Trains, and in general any vehicle (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/vehicles), lack a strength score, dexterity score and base attack bonus. They are however colossal and gain a +8 size bonus. Vehicles also get a bonus based on the driver's driving check (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/other-rules/vehicles#driving-devices).

Still that means most trains will have a bizarrely low CMB/CMD, unless the driver is some level 20 NPC with max ranks. I personally would go with the stats of a Animated Colossal Object (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/constructs/animated-object/animated-object-colossal), then the train has a CMB +39 and a CMD 47.




Then again, it's pretty easy to suplex a train (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u84cH_bmTA), so maybe the 18 CMB is right. :smalltongue: