A Character of Three Bloods

[Xuldarinar]

Given the existence of cross blooded sorcerers and cross blooded bloodragers, along with the eldritch heritage feats, I wanted to pose to everyone a couple of questions related to the notion of having three bloodlines.

Provided a Crossblooded (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/archetypes/paizo---sorcerer-archetypes/crossblooded) Sorcerer 20 or Crossblooded rager (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/hybrid-classes/bloodrager/archetypes/paizo---bloodrager-archetypes/crossblooded-rager) 20 with Eldritch Heritage (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/eldritch-heritage), Improved Eldritch Heritage (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/improved-eldritch-heritage), and Greater Eldritch Heritage (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/greater-eldritch-heritage):

What would be the most interesting combination?
What would be the most unusual combination?
What would be the best combination in terms of optimization?

[Snowbluff]

Orc and Elemental add damage, right? That should be good.

Arcane is a strong contender for any combo.

Rakshasa + Fey came up in another thread for a manipulator + shapeshifter.

Also, this will be my next Paizo PF character. It's sounding pretty goofy.

[Kudaku]

Mongrel Mage (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/archetypes/paizo---sorcerer-archetypes/mongrel-mage) might be an interesting archetype for this character.

[malonkey1]

Mongrel Mage (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/archetypes/paizo---sorcerer-archetypes/mongrel-mage) might be an interesting archetype for this character.

That's actually a pretty good archetype. Arguably, it greatly improves versatility day-to-day, one of the Sorcerer's biggests weaknesses compared to Wizards. It doesn't remove the weakness entirely, but I think it actually bridges some of the gap.

[ninjamaster1991]

That's actually a pretty good archetype. Arguably, it greatly improves versatility day-to-day, one of the Sorcerer's biggests weaknesses compared to Wizards. It doesn't remove the weakness entirely, but I think it actually bridges some of the gap.

That plus Paragon Surge (pre-eratta especially), the Human favored class bonus, and/or the False Priest archetype makes a well-built Sorcerer Tier 1.

[grarrrg]

Provided a Crossblooded (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/archetypes/paizo---sorcerer-archetypes/crossblooded) Sorcerer 20 or Crossblooded rager (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/hybrid-classes/bloodrager/archetypes/paizo---bloodrager-archetypes/crossblooded-rager) 20 with Eldritch Heritage (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/eldritch-heritage), Improved Eldritch Heritage (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/improved-eldritch-heritage), and Greater Eldritch Heritage (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/greater-eldritch-heritage):

What would be the most interesting combination?
What would be the most unusual combination?
What would be the best combination in terms of optimization?

Why stop there?
Half-Orcs/Half-Elves both count as Two races, now you're up to 5 heritages!
An Aasimar with Scion of Humanity trait is an Outsider/Human
There's a variety of other races who include "Humans mating with X" in the fluff.

And as long as you actually count as Human, you can take the Racial Heritage (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/racial-feats/racial-heritage) feat for yet another race!

A good start would be Aasimar (w/Scion), using Crossblooded to grab Orc Bloodline (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/orc-bloodline) (actually grants the "Orc" subtype!)
So you're an Outsider(Native), Humanoid(Human/Orc).
Then just mix and match the crazy from there. Undead? Sure. Dragons? Why not! Sprinkle some Djinn on the top for flavor.


Mongrel Mage (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/archetypes/paizo---sorcerer-archetypes/mongrel-mage) might be an interesting archetype for this character.

I'm hoping that that is an SRD misprint, but you get the "7th level bloodline power at level 7".
Level 7 is a feat, not a power.

[Xuldarinar]

Might as well throw in my thoughts. And I do love the mongrel mage, as it does mean one can be a little bit of everything, but i'll get back to that.


What would be the most unusual combination?
A certainly subjective question. For me, rather than going for three radically different bloodlines, this combination comes to mind, simply for the sake of redundancy:

Shadow (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/shadow-bloodline), shadow (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-3rd-party-publishers/kobold-press---bloodlines/shadow) and shadow (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-3rd-party-publishers/paizo-fans-united-wayfinder-magazine/shadow-bloodline).


What would be the best combination in terms of optimization?
This certainly depends upon what is being optimize. For this one, lets optimize hitting things as hard as physically possible.

Crossblooded Rager: Abyssal and Elemental (Earth)
Eldritch Heritage: Orc Bloodline

At 20th level, bloodrage provides a +8 morale bonus to strength.

Demonic Bulk (4th level Abyssal Bloodline Power) lets you increase your size by one size during bloodrage, which will increase your size bonus to strength by +2.
Abyssal Bloodrage (12th level Abyssal Bloodline Power) increases strength by a total of +6 during bloodrage.
Elemental Body (16th level Elemental Bloodline Power) you can, once per day, take an elemental form via elemental body IV. As a huge earth elemental, you gain +8 size bonus to Strength.

Strength of the Beast (9th level Orc Bloodline Power) grants up to a +6 inherent bonus to Strength.

And just because, let us not forget Bull's Strength (+4 enhancement bonus to Strength).

[Lictor of Thrax]

Hope this isn't necromancy (but all these books and combos are so new!)

I'm putting some thought into making a quirky Fire Blaster Arcanist with a single level dip in cross-blooded sorcerer (orc/draconic - Red) and the thought of throwing in a couple feats to get Elemental Blast is quite tempting. Take it a step further and toss an Exploit/feat to get School Understanding Admixture or just go full stupid and take School Savant Admixture.

Now your Fire Spells are doing +2 per die and, of course, you can turn any element into a fire spell, you can jack your CL up or reduce enemy DC's along with mitigate metamagic costs with the right feat/trait/potent magic exploit combinations(squeeze in Selective Spell amongst others) and, of course, make everything but the immune Vulnerable to your fire spells.

I haven't totally mapped it out to see if I want to go that extreme with it and obviously it would be a sub-optimal character that is sort of a one trick pony, but my group is pretty moderate when it comes to optimization and my DM has already had a laugh at the character who just wants to see everything burn.

Could even drop the Orc bloodline for Arcane Bloodline to help with some spells and Metamagic issues, drop the School Savant to recoup a couple exploits (in exchange for less spells) and then he's not quite as one-dimensional. For the occasions that we run in to Fire Immune creatures, there's still some damage to be had with a bunch of specialized/trait reduced metamagic'd fire spells that get converted to Cold or Acid. Maybe see if I can grab Rime spell so I can at least help with the battlefield.

Like I said, I'm just sort of bouncing the ideas around to see how far I want to take this fire specialist but I think it could be fun.

[The Oni]

I had an idea for a Celestial Undead Blood Conduit Rager. I figure when he rages, he bulks up, gets a sickly green halo and his glowing skull can be seen through his skin. He specializes in combat maneuvers and debuffs them for free when the maneuver is successful. He can fly and go incorporeal at will. The whole thing gives him a weird nuclear power aesthetic, which I dig, even if it's wildly inappropriate in vanilla PF.