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Bad Wolf
2014-09-11, 02:29 PM
In my current campaign, I'm playing a third-party race called the Shee (yes, it's spelled that way, and not Sidhe) that has a +6 bonus to Charisma and a +2 bonus to Diplomacy checks. I have the Spark Template and the Half-Fey template, for a score of 30 Charisma. With my two character ability bonuses, I have 32. Does anyone know any templates that can be added to a Fey?

I'm a gestalt Sorcerer 5/Wild Soul 3//Shadowcaster 8. Thanks in advance for any help.

Biffoniacus_Furiou
2014-09-11, 02:37 PM
Unseelie Fey in Dragon Compendium is +0 LA.

Certain variant Half-Fiends (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060630a) could have as much as +8 Cha, and you can gradually gain Half-Fiend (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20031010a).

Bad Wolf
2014-09-11, 08:19 PM
Unseelie Fey in Dragon Compendium is +0 LA.

Certain variant Half-Fiends (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060630a) could have as much as +8 Cha, and you can gradually gain Half-Fiend (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20031010a).

While four levels will make my sorcerer/shadowcaster laughed at, maybe I'll take a level or two, thanks.

Wow. Can't believe I forgot about the Unseelie Fey. While it would be perfect for my character, both crunch-wise and fluff ( he chose the Unseelie path for Wild Soul), there's alignment issues, as my character's Chaotic Neutral. Thanks for the advice.

Jack_Simth
2014-09-11, 09:01 PM
In my current campaign, I'm playing a third-party race called the Shee (yes, it's spelled that way, and not Sidhe) that has a +6 bonus to Charisma and a +2 bonus to Diplomacy checks. I have the Spark Template and the Half-Fey template, for a score of 30 Charisma. With my two character ability bonuses, I have 32. Does anyone know any templates that can be added to a Fey?

I'm a gestalt Sorcerer 5/Wild Soul 3//Shadowcaster 8. Thanks in advance for any help.

Phrenic (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/monsters/phrenicCreature.htm) is a +2 LA template good for +4 Charisma (and a small set of psi-likes, plus a few other things that won't matter much to your build) that can be applied to any nonmindless creature that doesn't already have the Psionic subtype.

The Draconic Creature Template (Races of the Dragon) is +1 LA and +2 Charisma (among a few other things) and can be applied to any living corporeal nondragon.

That's another +6 for +3 LA between the two.

Bad Wolf
2014-09-11, 11:41 PM
Phrenic (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/monsters/phrenicCreature.htm) is a +2 LA template good for +4 Charisma (and a small set of psi-likes, plus a few other things that won't matter much to your build) that can be applied to any nonmindless creature that doesn't already have the Psionic subtype.

The Draconic Creature Template (Races of the Dragon) is +1 LA and +2 Charisma (among a few other things) and can be applied to any living corporeal nondragon.

That's another +6 for +3 LA between the two.

Phrenic seems nice, I'll check it out. Between those and my Half-Fey SLA's, I'll never need to cast another spell again.:smallbiggrin:

Draconic, I already checked out. It seems nice, but not my cup of tea. Thanks for the help.

Divide by Zero
2014-09-11, 11:46 PM
Become undead, then stack Evolved over and over.

ShurikVch
2014-09-12, 06:36 AM
Is it too late to change your race?

Domovoi (fey from Frostburn) have whopping +6 Cha for only +2 LA

Spellscale (humanoid from Races of the Dragon; taken as race, not as template) have +2 Cha for LA +0 (!)

Half-Nymph is also good: +4 Cha for +2 LA, but only for humanoids... (But Spellscale Half-Nymph Half-Fey Unseelie Spark will have +14 Cha */sorry, miscalculation/*)

P.S. What's the source for Shee? And, also, is it Aramil?

Bad Wolf
2014-09-12, 10:36 AM
Is it too late to change your race?

Domovoi (fey from Frostburn) have whopping +6 Cha for only +2 LA

Spellscale (humanoid from Races of the Dragon; taken as race, not as template) have +2 Cha for LA +0 (!)

Half-Nymph is also good: +4 Cha for +2 LA, but only for humanoids... (But Spellscale Half-Nymph Half-Fey Unseelie Spark will have +12 Cha :smallwink:)

P.S. What's the source for Shee? And, also, is it Aramil?

Domovi would just be increasing the LA for nothing, Spellscale would decrease my Charisma and force me to start anew. The source for the Shee is in The Complete Guide to Fey, page 32.

I have absolutely no idea who Aramil is. *innocent whistling*

The Insanity
2014-09-12, 01:37 PM
Radiant (Dr321) +6 Cha for +3 LA.
Alu-demon (Dr355) +6 Cha for +4 LA.
Half-Succubus (here (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060630x&page=3)) +8 Cha for +4 LA.
Half-Pleasure Devil (here (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/eo/20070209a)) +6 Cha for +4 LA.

ShurikVch
2014-09-12, 02:23 PM
You use 3rd-party stuff, right?

War Aspect (Book of Templates Deluxe 3.5) +2 LA, +6 Cha (but required outsider)

Divine Messenger (Holy Order of the Stars) +4 LA, +10 Cha (but required animal, magical beast, plant, or vermin)

Bad Wolf
2014-09-12, 04:14 PM
You use 3rd-party stuff, right?

War Aspect (Book of Templates Deluxe 3.5) +2 LA, +6 Cha (but required outsider)

Divine Messenger (Holy Order of the Stars) +4 LA, +10 Cha (but required animal, magical beast, plant, or vermin)

Thanks but I'd rather not change my type, as I have a feat with a Fey requirement called Unearthly Grace. It adds my Charisma bonus to all saving throws.