Alhoon Ultharid?

[Yael]

Too much strongness? Just an Alhoon with the Lich template? How do you see this combo as an ancient mindflayer who ascended into eternal unlife.

[Silva Stormrage]

I would think that an Ulithid Alhoon would be rare simply because it would need 11 levels in an arcane class to qualify.

Maybe Ulithid/Wizard 1/Psychic Theuruge 10 with early entry tricks would work. But that is CR 24 with the Alhoon Template

Ulithid/Wizard with the Alhoon Template would be cr 19 since Wizard is non associated.

If this is for a player than the LA makes this completely unplayable as it requires about +16 of it.

[Ethelesin]

Wouldn't you need cerebremancer levels instead of psychic theurge? After all psychic theurge is Manifester/divine vs cerebremancers manifester/arcane.

[Silva Stormrage]

Wouldn't you need cerebremancer levels instead of psychic theurge? After all psychic theurge is Manifester/divine vs cerebremancers manifester/arcane.

Whoops mixed up which one was which. Ya cerebremancer

[Ethelesin]

That reminds me, how does classes like Cerebremancer work with creatures that have innate caster/manifester levels anyway? Do they just advance caster level and nothing else or?

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

If you're using magic/psionics transparency, a psionic Ulitharid gets Psion 13 manifesting, and manifester level = caster level so it could become an Alhoon right out of the box.


That reminds me, how does classes like Cerebremancer work with creatures that have innate caster/manifester levels anyway? Do they just advance caster level and nothing else or?

It advances its racial spellcasting/manifesting ability as though it were advancing the base class's spellcasting/manifesting. It's effectively a member of that class for purposes of its spellcasting/manifesting, and adding (effective) levels of the same base class's spellcasting/manifesting ability advances its racial spellcasting/manifesting ability the same way taking levels in that base class would advance it.

"A spellcasting class is an associated class for a creature that already has the ability to cast spells as a character of the class in question, since the monster’s levels in the spellcasting class stack with its innate spellcasting ability. (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/improvingMonsters.htm#associatedClassLevels)"