Seppo87
2014-09-28, 07:18 AM
For personal reasons, I intend to create a single lv-20 base class that unifies the agile duelist/swashbuckling warrior archetype classes in 3.5
Namely, recurring elements and stuff from Swashbuckler, Duelist, Blade Bravo, Invisible Blade, various Fighter variants (hit-n-run, thug, stealthy), Rogue, Dread Commando, Warblade (especially the INT bonus to stuff) but without maneuvers except maybe for some Diamond Mind
I need your help for this:
How much can one optimize these classes by achieving the best combination of
-BaB
-Bonus feats
-Precision damage dice
-AC bonus
-Initiative bonus
-Other INT based things
-Ability to use feints or maneuvers to catch opponent flat-footed without hiding
I need this in order to decide how often my base homebrew class should give bonus feats and precision damage.
Assume Race, xp penalities and normal Feats to be irrelevant (non existing). You auto-qualify for prcs as if you had the required feats.
Also, weapon specific PrCs are not weapon specific anymoe.
If you plan to use Daring Outlaw, you're allowed to, but you must subtract 1 bonus feat from the calculation.
For example, if one wanted to prioritize precision damage they could go:
-hit-n-run + stealthy fighter 3
-swashbuckler5
-rogue2 (uses Daring Outlaw)
-invisible blade 5
-dread Commando 5
BaB 19
Total precision dice: 12 (3 of which are Sudden Strike)
Bonus Feats: zero (weapon finesse nullified by daring outlaw)
Ac bonus: 1+Int (max 5) = up to 6
Initiative: +7
Other goodies: Int to damage, Dex to damage vs flat-footed
But if one wanted to prioritize AC, they could go instead
-Swashbuckler5
-Invisible Blade 5
-Duelist 10
BaB20
Total Precision Dice: 5, 2 of which are precise strike
Bonus feats: one
Initiative: +4
AC Bonus: 1+Int(max5)+Int(Max10) +10 when fighting defensively (duelist) = up to 26
Of course both are extremes. The first is all about precision damage, the second is all about AC.
I'm looking for the best possible middle place
What I'm asking to you is:
Make the quintessential, best optimized combination of these class features, using those classes.
Any help will be appreciated and you will be named and thanked when I'll publish the class
Thank you in advance
Namely, recurring elements and stuff from Swashbuckler, Duelist, Blade Bravo, Invisible Blade, various Fighter variants (hit-n-run, thug, stealthy), Rogue, Dread Commando, Warblade (especially the INT bonus to stuff) but without maneuvers except maybe for some Diamond Mind
I need your help for this:
How much can one optimize these classes by achieving the best combination of
-BaB
-Bonus feats
-Precision damage dice
-AC bonus
-Initiative bonus
-Other INT based things
-Ability to use feints or maneuvers to catch opponent flat-footed without hiding
I need this in order to decide how often my base homebrew class should give bonus feats and precision damage.
Assume Race, xp penalities and normal Feats to be irrelevant (non existing). You auto-qualify for prcs as if you had the required feats.
Also, weapon specific PrCs are not weapon specific anymoe.
If you plan to use Daring Outlaw, you're allowed to, but you must subtract 1 bonus feat from the calculation.
For example, if one wanted to prioritize precision damage they could go:
-hit-n-run + stealthy fighter 3
-swashbuckler5
-rogue2 (uses Daring Outlaw)
-invisible blade 5
-dread Commando 5
BaB 19
Total precision dice: 12 (3 of which are Sudden Strike)
Bonus Feats: zero (weapon finesse nullified by daring outlaw)
Ac bonus: 1+Int (max 5) = up to 6
Initiative: +7
Other goodies: Int to damage, Dex to damage vs flat-footed
But if one wanted to prioritize AC, they could go instead
-Swashbuckler5
-Invisible Blade 5
-Duelist 10
BaB20
Total Precision Dice: 5, 2 of which are precise strike
Bonus feats: one
Initiative: +4
AC Bonus: 1+Int(max5)+Int(Max10) +10 when fighting defensively (duelist) = up to 26
Of course both are extremes. The first is all about precision damage, the second is all about AC.
I'm looking for the best possible middle place
What I'm asking to you is:
Make the quintessential, best optimized combination of these class features, using those classes.
Any help will be appreciated and you will be named and thanked when I'll publish the class
Thank you in advance