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Jgosse
2014-09-29, 10:44 AM
Is there a pre existing progression for the firbolg? If not can some one help me figure it out?
Urpriest
2014-09-29, 01:52 PM
You mean a Monster Class, that kind of thing?

There isn't a preexisting progression, since it's an obscure monster out of MMII. You'd have to put together your own, I'd compare to the various giants in Savage Species.
Jgosse
2014-09-29, 08:43 PM
You mean a Monster Class, that kind of thing?

There isn't a preexisting progression, since it's an obscure monster out of MMII. You'd have to put together your own, I'd compare to the various giants in Savage Species.
yes monster class , I have always had a fixation on these guys and was just hoping there may have been a hand book with pre done monster classes and that maybe the firbolg had a bit of a fandom.
Urpriest
2014-09-29, 08:47 PM
yes monster class , I have always had a fixation on these guys and was just hoping there may have been a hand book with pre done monster classes and that maybe the firbolg had a bit of a fandom.

Nah, except as a form for polymorphers (very high Str for its size and HD), firbolgs don't really have much of a fandom. Most people don't even know they have fluff beyond just being generic giants. So unfortunately you'll probably have to create the progression yourself.
LOTRfan
2014-09-29, 09:51 PM
I'll do it for you, if you want. I'll need a bit of time, though; and if it's alright with you, I may cut out some of the LA (I don't think 5 LA is necessary, really, especially when joined with the 13 racial HD.
LOTRfan
2014-09-30, 01:26 AM
Here's my attempt (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=18185500&postcount=6).

I tried to keep as close to the original MM II creature as possible, but there are a few differences; namely, I gave it three extra class skills, reduced its LA from +5 to +2, and gave it bonus languages to learn. I hope that's acceptable. If anything is missing/needs to be fixed, let me know and I'll make the change.
Phelix-Mu
2014-09-30, 01:27 AM
Here's my attempt (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=18185500&postcount=6).

I tried to keep as close to the original MM II creature as possible, but there are a few differences; namely, I gave it three extra class skills, reduced its LA from +5 to +2, and gave it bonus languages to learn. I hope that's acceptable. If anything is missing/needs to be fixed, let me know and I'll make the change.

Honestly, +5 LA? What were the designers thinking....
LOTRfan
2014-09-30, 01:32 AM
Honestly, +5 LA? What were the designers thinking....

They weren't; LA on high HD creatures (especially when the racial HD sucks) doesn't really work out. Honestly, I think even +2 LA sort of stretches things a bit.
Phelix-Mu
2014-09-30, 01:34 AM
They weren't; LA on high HD creatures (especially when the racial HD sucks) doesn't really work out. Honestly, I think even +2 LA sort of stretches things a bit.

Yeah, it would have been smart if there was some kind of consideration for the type of HD in the LA calculation, since I'm pretty sure there wasn't. 1 outsider HD =/= 1 giant HD. Not even close.
OldTrees1
2014-09-30, 01:41 AM
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=8588088&postcount=490
from
Community-Based-Monster-Classes-VII (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?192151-Community-Based-Monster-Classes-VII)
Jeff the Green
2014-09-30, 02:31 AM
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=8588088&postcount=490
from
Community-Based-Monster-Classes-VII (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?192151-Community-Based-Monster-Classes-VII)

I was going to suggest that, but upon review I don't like it much. It's horribly written, it gets you up to gargantuan rather than Large by introducing new contradictory fluff, and you suddenly gain an animal companion at level 9 with your druid level equal to your class level (I think; like I said, it's horribly written) that can't improve past 12. I'm not exactly an expert on monster classes, but even I could work out something more true to the source material and still balanced.
Jgosse
2014-09-30, 03:57 AM
This is what happens when I post before bed. Thanks for the help every one.
Jgosse
2014-09-30, 04:01 AM
Here's my attempt (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=18185500&postcount=6).

I tried to keep as close to the original MM II creature as possible, but there are a few differences; namely, I gave it three extra class skills, reduced its LA from +5 to +2, and gave it bonus languages to learn. I hope that's acceptable. If anything is missing/needs to be fixed, let me know and I'll make the change.

thanks so much I will run it by my dm and see what he says.