GitP OGame Alliance - Always looking for new recruits

[1dominator]

Whats the most prominent alliance in your systems? USN in mine!
-Dom

EDIT: Whats this commander thing i can upgrade to? Do i have to pay extra for it? what is it all about?

[Call_me_Fate]

Commander is a little extra to pay for, but it lets you do quite a bit more. You can add up to five buildings on a planet in a list to build, so you dont have to be there when they are done. You also get an 'empire' veiw, which puts all the planets side by side on one screen, to do fast upgrades and such (once you get colonies). I am sure there is more, but since I upgraded right away, I don't remember it all.

Dominant alliance in my system? Me.

[Krade]

Geez, I look away for to go to sleep and work, I come back and there's 2 new people.

*sigh*

I wouldn't go so far as to say he is the dominant force in my system, but at one time, he was ranked 9(he went on vacation mode for a while, now he's 725), and his alliance is ranked 2.

As far as HOMEWORLDS in my system, I'm top, but there are two others stronger than me with colonies in the system.

And cmon Z, make this interesting and try to bounce back from those attacks! I'm more than 2k over you now. There's some motivation right there, compete for second place cuz no way in hell we'll be catching up to Fate.

[Call_me_Fate]

Yeah, well, you might, if this guys gets it in his mind to attack again. So far I have rebuilt the lost defenses and then some, but it cost me solar plant upgrades on all three planets hit. The thing I have to my advantage is that most of my points are mines, so they can't be destroyed unless I say so.

I still have a few planets that will be going in the future, as they are too small for me, just not too small right now. I need to get my cargoes back and running again, but that will ahve to wait while my defenses finish building.

[1dominator]

Hey guys,
In order to assist the rapid expansion of my economy, can someone please lend me the following
5000 metal. 5000crystal, 1000 detrium
-Dom

[1dominator]

Hey guys,
In order to assist the rapid expansion of my economy, can someone please lend me the following
5000 metal. 5000crystal, 1000 detrium
-Dom

[Call_me_Fate]

If my colony ships were still there in galaxy 6 I would, but I can get something to you in a few hours.

You will see though that the universe, on double speed, will reward you nicely. It is hard to keep up with the production sometimes.

[1dominator]

Ok thanks alot for the help!
-Dom

[Call_me_Fate]

Ohhh, I got myself confused, with two newbies here... Yeah, let me get my cargoes moving.

[Krade]

Ok, I know this may sound like a lot, but who wants to spot me about 150k metal? Anyone? Please? I'll be able to pay you back within a couple days, but right now I've got 145k metal, 567k crystal, and 286k deut, and I need to research hyperspace drive 6, which costs 320k metal, 640k crystal, and 192k deut. After I get this research done and 1 more level of shipyard, I can start making Destroyers! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAaaaa... *cough*

Edit: Scratch the borrow thing. How about trade? I've got way more than enough deut for anything right now. Come to think of it, I need some crystal too...

OK... Using the normal 3:2:1 trade ratio, 100k deut for 150k metal and 100k crystal. I'm willing to adjust this a bit, but sooner would be better than later.

Edit II: And no one be alarmed at The Loneliest Die's (Lonely d12 here on the forum) constantly shifting rank name. That's me messing with him because I can. He's a friend of mine in RL that I got to join.

[Call_me_Fate]

Where do you want it? I can likely get it together, but I don't have the ships to send it. I would need a little time to move/build more cargoes. What galaxy?

[Krade]

My homeworld. 2:376:6.

I just consolidated all my resources there and then realized that I actually have very little metal because I've been spending ALL of it on defense on my colonies.

Edit: I call for a vote!

All in favor of at least one of the new guys changing avatars so I/we don't get them mixed up, Raise your hand.

*Raises Hand*

[Call_me_Fate]

OK. Workin on getting the ships together, but within the hour they should be underway with 150k metal. I'm not too worried about a trade back anytime, since I have a ton of metal. The crystal will be harder to scrape up, but I can get that going too.

[Krade]

Well, right now I'm completely ready to send it.

Just tell me where you want it.

[1dominator]

Lol, whats up With Lonliest Die's rank? Monks and warlocks DO not suck, they just need a little lovin lol...
-Dom
EDIT: Trachery! My D100 siggy does not work! nooooooooooo!

[Krade]

That's the point, fool.

He's my friend. He loves Monks and Warlocks. So I just know he'll love his rank:smalltongue:

[Call_me_Fate]

Yeah... I as gonna sneak it to something like monks rule, since I am a monk fan as well, but...

[1dominator]

That's the point, fool.:


I See the light!
-Dom

Edit: And my siggy STILL doesnt work, Il show it yet!!!!

[Call_me_Fate]

Try [] instead of <>

[Steve_the_ERB]

Another noob question, how bad is it to run with negative energy. I always work to bring it back positive but does it just slow down resource production?

[Call_me_Fate]

Click the button on teh side labeled 'resources' and you can see the effect of energy. This let you take out a few % from things if you are running negative. For example, if you need crystal more then metal, take metal mines down a notch if you are running on negative energy.

[Steve_the_ERB]

Yeah, I found the resource button and did adjust it a little when needed. But what if I don't? Do all three just run at lesser efficiency until power is positive?

[Call_me_Fate]

Yeah. At the top of the resourses page there is an production factor rating. Everything just runs at a little less than full ability.

When I have a fleet coming to attack me, I use or send away all my resources, then set my energy production to 0% so that if they continue to attack, they gain nothing, and spend all the deut to fly out to me.

[1dominator]

Try [] instead of <>

Tried Didn't work.
-Dom

[Call_me_Fate]

Well, for one, img tags in the forum need the [] on either side of the IMG [img] then the blah then the [/img I don't know about the hidden reference, but I know it can be done, as I have seen a few.




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That should do the second one.


[url=http://dicepool.com/catalog/quiz.php]Take the Quiz at dicepool.com (http://dicepool.com/catalog/quiz.php)

And try putting html[HTML][/HTML tags on them too, as that is what you are using, not BBC code which the forum uses I think.

[Krade]

Only 35 hours until I can start producing Destroyers. Oh yeeeaaah....

I'm sure they cost a lot to make. 110,000 structural integrety. So the Metal and Crystal together will equal 110,000. Then there's the possible deut cost. So I guess I might be able to pump one of these things out every couple of days.

And about the code for the dice quiz, I tried to put one up but it still only showed the code. Direct copy-paste from the web-site.

[Doglord]

Im fairly close to battle ships!

[Krade]

I got Destroyers!I got Destroyers! I got Destroyers!

And they are actually cheaper than plasma turrets (considering that deut is worth more, much cheaper). "Only" 60k metal, 50k crystal, and 15k deut. I'm gonna make 4 right now. *GLEE*

Edit: I already have 5! 4 more are on the way and another one after 19 ion cannons. The only trouble is that they are not very fuel efficient. At Hyperspace Drive 6 they can (only) move up to 155 systems away without cargoes to hold extra fuel.

Heh, right now my homeworld's shipyard has about 14 hours worth of work.

[thorgrim29]

On what server are you guys?

[Call_me_Fate]

Universe? 30

[Steve_the_ERB]

Ok, so give me some quick advice on colonies. I'm getting close to where I should be able to build one. Also, what kind of units should I be building in the early game here: fighters, defenses?

[Call_me_Fate]

Colonies... the closer to the middle of the system, the bigger. Like, get spot four if you can, it is best, then five, or six, even seven. Don't take the first or last three unless you really need to. Once there, build mines mines mines, but get a shipyard out fast enough to put up a few defenses. No defenses make you too good a target for a few spare cargoes.

If you plan to attack and raid, build fighters and cruisers as well as defenses. If you plan to build up without too much attacking, don't bother with ships yet, as they are just a target for raiders to destroy.

If you have a fleet, fleetsave it when you log out. Fleetsave is when you send your ships at a very slow speed from one planet to another and back. When in flight, your ships can't be attacked. When you send them, make sure they come back near when you expect to get back on.

[Krade]

Ok... my points are going to take a serious leap next statistics update.

Between all my planets, I just spent 2,129,000 resources on 232 L. Lasers, a Solar Plant 20 upgrade, 10 Destroyers, 12 Solar Sats, a Solar Plant 17 upgrade, and a Crystal Mine 16 upgrade.

And that's what's going on with me right now.

[Call_me_Fate]

Wow... ten destroyers! Where you planning to attack?

Nice to see you doing well. I just upgaded a few solar plants to 22, and I have a teo crystal 21s in the works, as well as a metal 22 and 23. I don't know if they are already counted though, as they do take a while to build.

Also, I am getting all my shipyards up too, so I can build plasma turrets on them all. Right now only my oldest have them.

[Krade]

And the thing is, I already have 10 destroyers, so when all those are done (in about 21 hours) I'll have 20. Don't have any specific targets in mind yet, but I'll let you know.

[Call_me_Fate]

Heh... makes my fleet look so small. All I have are a few battleships that I farm with. Well, that and the cargoes. I don't attack much major targets though, and ships that don't do anything are a liability to me.

[Krade]

How's this for a target?
Resources on Giran [2:375:4] at 04-30 17:44:40
Metal: 323.038
Crystal: 314.004
Deuterium: 103.687
Energy: 4.048

Fleets
Solar Satellite 4

Defense
Rocket Launcher 164
Light Laser 164
Gauss Cannon 7
Small Shield Dome 1
Large Shield Dome 1

Buildings
Metal Mine 22
Crystal Mine 18
Deuterium Synthesizer 15
Solar Plant 22
Fusion Reactor 9
Robotics Factory 8
Shipyard 7
Metal Storage 2
Crystal Storage 1
Research Lab 6
Missile Silo 1
This is only 1 system away from me. And by the time I'm ready to attack, I'll also have some IPMs to hit it with.

[Call_me_Fate]

Looks nice. As long as you get it before the guys gets on. Wow, with storage that low, he must not play anymore, or something, since those numbers are too high for that storage.

[Krade]

Well, It's impossible to get numbers that high on storage that low unless you transport the resources in. And if he's doing that, then he's obviously not inactive.

[Call_me_Fate]

No, I get numbers over my storage if I log out. The mines go until I log in, or something. I have ha dnumbers way over my max without moving things around.

[Krade]

I think it goes on percentages, something like after you hit the "limit", your mines start going slower and slower until they eventually stop. I think that usually ends up being around 50% over. This would make it possible to get the metal that high, but not the crystal.

*NOTE: This is all speculation.*

Anyway, how do I have higher tech than you when you've got over 14k more points than me?

[Call_me_Fate]

All I am lacking to make destroyers is the last hyperspace drive. I think most of my points are my mines. You are working on levels 16-20, at least in your last post, yet I have my mines over 20, some as high as 24.

[Krade]

Oh...

Nevermind.

I just looked at the statistics for research points, and you and Z both have 93 and I have 94. So I guess I'm not that much higher after all. I think I was at one point, but I haven't been researching much since I got to Destroyers.

Edit: And it's about time we got more than just the 3 of us contributing to the alliance point total. Now we might actually go up in the ranks faster.

[Steve_the_ERB]

So say all the 4-7 slots in the nearby systems are filled (and they are). Should I be jumped out to galaxies 8,9, etc to look for the valuable 4-7 slots (I'm in 6)?

[Call_me_Fate]

This early (for you), I'd take a planet or two in a not so great spot and hope for an OK planet. No matter what you get, build it up with mines and such, and get a level one shipyard. Use the shipyard to build a few solar satalites, and then you can make the planet a farm for yourself. Keep a few cargoes in orbit, and send them, full of goods, to your home. I still have on left like that in my home system.

Other than that, look for a system where you can get more than one planet, because one lone planet, in my opinion, can't develop as well as a small cluster. I hae three systems, each with three planets.

As people drop the game, more planets will open up.

Also, the planets are not too bad going out to 12.

[Krade]

I have two planet, one in slot 13 and and one in slot 15, that are both bigger than my homeworld. One is 175, the other is 167. Maybe I just got lucky.

[Call_me_Fate]

Wow. A 13 and a 15 bigger than home, that is lucky! I only wish I had that luck. Long term, I have a ton of planets that need to go boom.

[Krade]

My smallest planet is 87, then 94, then 119. Eventually, these will all be going boom, but that point is still quite a ways off.

[Call_me_Fate]

Yeah, I still have one under 100 hanging on to give me resources still. I have a few that will eventually go, but they are a longer ways off. I still need the mines.

[Krade]

Fun with production rates! Yay!

Per Hour:
Metal: 45,359
Crystal: 29,540
Deut: 5,720

Per Day:
Metal: 1,088,616
Crystal: 708,960
Deut: 137,280

Per Week:
Metal: 7,620,312
Crystal: 4,962,720
Deut: 960,960

[Doglord]

Im actually producing more crystal than metal! (The mine is 4 levels higher)

[Call_me_Fate]

Metal: 92,850/hour
Crystal: 45,330/hour
Deut: 3,340/hour

Heh, not much deut I guess, but I don't use much more than research and a few plasmas

[Krade]

Heh heh heh...

7 Interplanetary missles can reduce this...
RL: 164
LL: 164
GC: 7
SSD: 1
LSD: 1

...into this...
GC: 4
LSD: 1

...so remember kids, Anti-Ballistic Missles are your friend.

Now if you'll excuse me, I gonna go raid the hell out of that planet.

[Call_me_Fate]

Nice. Yeah, anti-ballistic missles are important.

[Krade]

/\ That's why I have 20 of them on my homeworld.
Each missile did about 4.5x it's worth in damage.
Total cost of 7 Missiles: 175,000
Total cost of damage done: 787,000

Yeah, but I don't have enough deut to get there without it taking hours thanks to the fact that each missile takes 10,000 deut, 12,500 metal, and 2,500 crystal.

Extra deut on it's way from nearby planets, should only be a little while before before I can start farming.

[Call_me_Fate]

Yeah, my deut is a little lacking for me right now. But you actually make more per hour than I do... heh.

[Krade]

Right now, I can't get enough deut, I need a little more than 300k so I can research Coputer Tech 10. Then, after I get my robotics factory up a bit more, I can make the nanite factory, and that's all kinds of awesome.

Edit: Here's the first BR:

The attacker has won the battle!
He captured
101.578 metal, 101.578 crystal, and 51.843 deuterium

The attacker lost a total of 12.000 units.
The defender lost a total of 248.000 units.
At these space coordinates now float 1.800 metal and 4.200 crystal.

:( He got one of my L. Cargos *cries*

[Call_me_Fate]

Nice loot.

[Krade]

Second attack:


The attacker has won the battle!
He captured
110.730 metal, 106.213 crystal, and 26.857 deuterium

The attacker lost a total of 12.000 units.
The defender lost a total of 170.000 units.
At these space coordinates now float 1.800 metal and 1.800 crystal.

And he took down another L. Cargo.

Edit: Heh, none of his defense built back this time. WHOO-WHOO!!!! ROLL IN THE CARGOS!!

[lumberofdabeast]

Umm... Just signed up as Eloh Teebee on Universe 31. So if you see me... Don't bomb me or anything. K?

[Steve_the_ERB]

Well I guess I'm not so lucky when it comes to colonies, grabbed a planet in spot 11 (its in the same system as my homeworld so I decided to go for it). A whopping 59 fields. Hooray! [/sarcasm]

[Krade]

Umm... Just signed up as Eloh Teebee on Universe 31. So if you see me... Don't bomb me or anything. K?
Well, I wouldn't be able to bomb you anyway due to the fact that you would have noob protestion from me... And we're in universe 30. Not 31.

Edit: Lol, You have noob protestion! I was going to change it, but this way it sounds kinda like I protest noobs (I don't), which is funny.

[Zweanslord]

Speaking about Nanite Factory, mine will be finished in one hour and a half. Then again, I still can not make destroyers due to not high enough hyperspace engine. I do not raid, so the Nanite Factory was more fun to go for. Also, I am happy with my third spot, as I am basically just doing my thing, reseraching here, making some mines there, not raiding, etc. Not racing you, Krade, heh.

[Call_me_Fate]

Nanite is nice. That ia where I am working to, but I need a few more crystals for the last computer tech.

[Krade]

Yeah, well at the point we're at, the 1,400 points between us is practically nothing. So I'd say we are more or less equal in regards to points. Any way, I just said "race" to try and keep you motivated enough to not quit after taking such a heavy blow. I don't really care that much.

Also, I'm pretty sure your mines are a bit higher than mine. Most of mine are between 17 and 20. Deut is between 10 and 15. So my raiding keeps me up with your higher mines.

On another note, I laughed when I added up all the damage I did and resources I've taken from this guy. It's a bit above 2,000,000 reources worth.

[Zweanslord]

Nah, the most likely reason I'd quit the game is when I have researched all (except most likely the moon stuff, I understood getting a moon is hard, and too hard for me). Because I do not tend to look at pictures until I can research/build them, it serves as motivation: What will the terraformer picture look like? (Don't tell me.) I only did look at graviton technology and moon stuff, the former to see if there was some information about energy (it only says you need a lot), and the latter because I won't have a moon anyway. How much energy do you need for graviton anyway, and will it be gone after that, or just use it while it's being researched?

[Lokey]

Heh heh heh...

7 Interplanetary missles can reduce this...
RL: 164
LL: 164
GC: 7
SSD: 1
LSD: 1

...into this...
GC: 4
LSD: 1

...so remember kids, Anti-Ballistic Missles are your friend.

Now if you'll excuse me, I gonna go raid the hell out of that planet.
Backseat driving: I don't know what kind of fleet you have but probably 90 battleships or so would have run over that without loss. Two IPMs to take out the Gauss would have let you get by with about 60 bs, or let you attack with cruiser which would go to town on the RL. Also you'll leave some defense that might scare away other people that want to raid your target, now anyone with a cargo can drive up ;)

At the stage that uni 30 is in, I probably wouldn't even call that a defense, I had more than that on 2 planets when I quit 30 at about 3k points.

[Krade]

I just started on Robotics 9. Computer 10 is done. Basically the only thing that will make me wait for Robotics 10 is the pricetag. Deut is getting more and more scarce for what I need it for. And transporting resources from my far away planets to my homeworld can take upwards of 35k.

[Call_me_Fate]

I just shooed away aother raid by evacuating my resources before they hit. I have not heard much about any of you guys getting raided much lately. How has that end of things been going?

[Krade]

I haven't been raided since my last post about being raided, so yeah. I keep my resources on my colonies low and my home hac sufficient defence to not be worth the attack.

[Zweanslord]

Agh well, I was not getting any attacks at all, until, well, you had to mention that! Got raided this night.

[Krade]

Oooh... How bad?

Edit: Also, whodunnit? Let's hope it's someone one [or both (or all) of us] can hit back at without too much trouble.

[Call_me_Fate]

Ouch, sorry!

[Zweanslord]

My fault really though, my defense hasn't been optimal at all, and too many recources. Just, when you are not being attacked at all, I get the tendency to not work on defenses, because hey, you are not getting attacked. I should be working on defenses instead. So I am currently upgrading shipyards so that I can make a plasma turret everywhere. That should at least scare away anybody wanting to use a lot of cruisers or stuff.

[Doglord]

Ive got hyperspace drive level four researching! Battleships tommorow!

[Call_me_Fate]

I actually just had an attempted raid by someone lower than me. He must have thought I was not on, as I had a large fleet of battlecruisers on a different planet in the same system. I saw the red text and moved them in. Rapidfire 7 against battleships! Yeah, he went down in a blaze.

[Krade]

If you had almost 600k metal, 400k crystal, and over 125k deut, Would you attack someone stronger than you?

This is what happens:

The battle ended in a draw, both fleets withdraw to their home planets.

The attacker lost a total of 92.000 units.
The defender lost a total of 725.000 units.
At these space coordinates now float 123.900 metal and 118.200 crystal.
The chance for a moon to be created is 2 %

Followed immediately by this:

The attacker has won the battle!
He captured
6.177 metal, 2.004 crystal, and 49.083 deuterium

The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
The defender lost a total of 196.000 units.
At these space coordinates now float 32.100 metal and 22.500 crystal.

He got most of his resources off before the second attack, but I didn't hit him for the resources. I hit him for hitting me. Only much, MUCH harder.

Edit: So, I need a Crystal sink. I have WAY too much crystal and I can't seem to spend it fast enough. The only thing I can think of doing is making loads of Ion Cannons, but I already have 150, and I don't think I need much more at this point. So this is a call out for possible trade between Z and Fate (I would prefer Deut, but metal is fine too), and possible donations to everyone else. Just let me know.

[king.com]

Well, small laser spam Krade? Couple hundred of them here and there? Don't you just love when you dont check up on things? I colonized my first planet but it, went to the wrong planet, forgot to do anything with it for a couple of days. It now has like 8000 metal just from the basic produciton of the planet!

[Zweanslord]

Unfortunaly Krade, I have little to trade. I don't have excess of any of my recources, and can use all of them. Sure, I sometimes have a bit of recources hanging around here and there, but those will be used soon enough, and offer little to trade. The only way for me to get an excess is to, well, not build and/or research stuff. Ofcourse, crystal would be welcome, like for energy tech 11, which takes 800k crystal and 400k deut, and energy tech 12, which should take 1.6mill crystal and 800k deut, but I just don't have the metal to trade for it. I use metal to upgrade mines after all. And I am currently busy with augmenting defenses too, which are still not really good..

[Doglord]

Me wantee crystal! (and metal)

[Doglord]

Me wantee crystal! (and metal)

[Doglord]

Me wantee crystal! (and metal)

[Doglord]

Sos, I thought it didnt post and now its posted 3 times

[Krade]

You CAN delete your posts you know...

Also, no metal. Only Crystal. I have crystal to spare and nothing else.

And I can't do a bunch of L lasers because they take 3x more metal than crystal and I have more crystal.

[Call_me_Fate]

Heh... I'm looking at a deut shortage more than a crystal shortage, but I may see what I can do for a trade... Right now I don't have a tone of time though, so I'll have to figure it out later.

[Krade]

Ok, so right now I've already sent off crystal to the Loneliest Die and Doglord.

If any one else want some, now would be a good time to say. I'd be willing to send some to maybe 2 or 3 of the other lowbies.

[Doglord]

I now have the ability to build battleships, but Im really starved for matal so cant.

[Krade]

Seriously, why haven't more people asked for crystal. I STILL have too much. This is what I get for keeping it on mostly the same level as my metal mines.

[Call_me_Fate]

Heh, I have not needed it as I have two planets with over 250k extra, and my home with over one million. Plus, I don't have the deut to trade. I'd take extra duet though...

[Krade]

Know what's cool? Destroyers.

In the past couple days I realized something:
Having 40+ destroyers opens up a LOT of farming oppurtunities.

Edit: Oh yeah, I found someone to trade with. I'm sending 500k Crystal. He's sending 750k Metal. Good times.

I see this as a good chance to try and make nice with someone in the top 100.

[Call_me_Fate]

Cool cool. Good deal there, plus a freind who hopefully wont raid you after and take back the metal too!

As for the destroyers... I might ahve to make a few then sometime soon. I am still getting the nanite factory set up, and the mines reaching closer to 25. Long term I think those high mines might be nice, but right now they are resource sinks when I need to be making destroyers.

[Krade]

The attacker has won the battle!
He captured
184.964 metal, 105.593 crystal, and 136.227 deuterium

The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
The defender lost a total of 164.000 units.
At these space coordinates now float 0 metal and 0 crystal

This is fun. I could do this all day!
This guy I attackedhas 4 planets within 2 systems of me and they all have massive resources and really low defense.

[Zweanslord]

Blegh, I could trade with you Krade, I have 730k metal or so, and I need crystal for energy tech 11, about 500k, but I only have 8 large cargoes on that planet. Still, if you are interested, I can send large cargoes from nearby planets and use that to send something to you. But please respond quickly then, because I will not have much time before I have to go away again. Oh, and these recources are at my first planet.

Was too late, whee.

[Call_me_Fate]

I've got a fleet ov nearly 300 ships coming after me. He wont get anything, since I dumped the planet, but I am curious to see his losses... They are all fighters, heavy and light, as well cargoes of course.

EDIT: well, 2500 of that force was light fighters, 200 heavies, and 300 small cargoes. He left with much less, and with his loot being only 560 metal, 245 crystal, and 73 deut, I am happy. Plus I get to reap in the debris field.

I noticed that battlecruisers don't have rapidfire on light fighters, only heavies. Pulled them out, to save myself.

[Krade]

I thinkthey didn't give BCs RF against LFs to keep you from building a massive fleet of just one kind of ship that is awesome at everything. They are trying to encourage diversity.

So basically, a fleet with a balanced number of Cruisers, Destroyers, and Battlecruisers would be ideal. Not counting Death Satrs, of course.

[Call_me_Fate]

Yeah... I have battleships for a fast attack fleet, and battlecruisers for a defense fleet. They fly around at each group of colonies, defending or attacking as needed. Small fleets though, since most of my points are in other things.

[Zweanslord]

Say, anybody up for a trade? I've got some 400-500k deuterium hanging around on my home planet in galaxy 2 that I will not be using any time soon, and have not been able to spend it properly due to my recent attention towards, well, not research, because research needs even way more crystal. So, I am, as you might be able to tell, interested in crystal. Metal is good too, because mines are becoming more expensive in that regard too.

[Call_me_Fate]

Ayup, I have a ton of crystal I can send to you for some deut. I needs it. Preciousssss deut. Tell me where and when and how much (up to 500k) and it yours. You can send me a message in the game too if the forums go down again.

[Zweanslord]

Well, let's arrange it as soon as possible? I have the deut in 2:283:5 (my homeworld), and that's where I want the crystal to go to too. Did you mean with the 500k the amount of crystal you are willing to trade, or the amount of deut you want? Anyway, in what ratio do you want to trade it? Because I believe deut is a bit more valuable then crystal, or so I thought, right?

[Call_me_Fate]

Yeah, it is normally 3:2:1 for metal:crystal:deut. I have about 500k crystal available, so if you have 250k deut to trade it would be along those trade lines. It depends on where you want it as to how soon I can send it. I have most of my spare crystal in galaxy 2, but I could get it up to you in galaxy 9 since we are neighbors there.

[Zweanslord]

Well, I can send the deut to you now, preferably in galaxy 2, as that's where I have my deut too. Where do you want it? As I already said, I want the crystal in 2:283:5, where the deut is coming from too incidently. So, just tell me where you want the deut, and my cargoes will be off to deliver 250k deut.

[Call_me_Fate]

I am collecting my cargoes at 2:67:5 - Fates Home, to send off the crystal to you. That would be the best palce to get the deut at, since my best research lab is there. I will still be about an hour before I get the cargoes in place to hold 500k crystal though, but it will be coming today.

[Zweanslord]

T'is alright. My Large Cargoes will arrive in a bit over 2 hours at Fates Home. Just like you, I have my best research lab at my homeworld (called Citadel), heh.

[Call_me_Fate]

Cool. Thanks too for the name. Not that I can't read numbers, but just to make sure I get it right, I know to head them to Citadel. :smallbiggrin:


Sorry it is taking longer than planned, but I don't normally move this large amount of stuff, so getting my ships together means flying in a few from galaxy 6... Soon though.

[Sam de Cheese]

hey, i'll join, sounds fun! I only started out today (11/5/07) but im fairly experienced so i should be pretty quick to get started.

[Call_me_Fate]

Welcome! :smallbiggrin:

Now pick out a funny rank name!

[The_Lonely_d12]

I suppose I should probably post on here now...I had forgotten about the actual thread here on the forums when krade mentioned it to me...anyways, hello all!

[Call_me_Fate]

Hello.

Anyone doing anything interesting? I am sitting here watching my stcks of resources grow, but with nothing more I can build. Today was a 'keep the defenses high' day. Just because you are not being attacked does not mean you should not build defenses. Don't forget.

Bored day in the galaxy. Even my farms are getting dried up and not worth the raids. I guess I need to pump out the destroyers now and get crackin' on some real raids.

[Krade]

Well...

So far nothing exciting has occurred.

I finished my Nanite Factory. I started the IRN (after however long I've been able to). I have a rather large excess of deut. And I'm performing a 3-fleet raid on 2:374:6 as we speak.

Oh, and I just started building 10 more destroyers.

That's about it.

[Maldraugedhen]

Hmm. Just found this today after a friend pointed it out, and started the Independent People's Movement with him in Universe 22 (based off of an RP I tried running 3 times on another board). I could start up an account on Univ 30 if you guys are there (read the first page and the last) and join the Giant Alliance, if you need another man.

Edit: Went ahead and joined on Univ 30. Account name Sildraug, planet is Silverwolf Colony, 1:331:11, applied for entry. Anybody near me?

[Call_me_Fate]

Welcome. Tell me what silly rank name you'd like! :smallbiggrin:

[The_Lonely_d12]

if you define near as being in the same galaxy, then yes. I'm in 1:69 for my home world

[Call_me_Fate]

I'm in galaxies 2, 6, and 9, so not that close, but you can move in!

[Maldraugedhen]

How 'bout Blind Scribe of the Broken Fingers?

[Call_me_Fate]

Well, most of it fit. Blind Scribe of the Broken doesn't sound too bad, unless you want something else. 'Fin' of fingers fit.

[Maldraugedhen]

Blind Scribe should just be enough.

[The_Lonely_d12]

I'm in galaxies 2, 6, and 9, so not that close, but you can move in!

I've actually got a new colony two systems down from your homeworld

[Call_me_Fate]

WOW. I took a look at my home galaxy, and it filled up again. It was getting quiet for a while. Where are you again? I looked two systems down and I didn't see anything, but I may be blind.

[The_Lonely_d12]

Il Vecchio Castello-2:69:11...it probably didn't help with my choice in words-its more like 2 systems up.

[Zweanslord]

Just great. Somebody found my planets in galaxy 9 and attacked three out of four, the ones which are together in one system. Lotsa recources gone, lotsa defenses smashed down, and lotsa large cargoes gone. His first attack even managed to get 1% for moon forming. Attacked by Damoneti, ranked 381 from 9:80:4. Well, that will probably have nasty effects for my ranking. Stupid way too many battleships..

[Call_me_Fate]

Hmm... if he is picking through galaxy nine... we are right next door to each other. I will have to give him a peak, but I don't have the fleet points to attack anyone major yet.

[Zweanslord]

Well, you are at least aware of his presence now. Though considering he has not attacked my planet which is next to yours, I guess the other system was a lot easier picking for him. Not enough defenses, I guess. But it costs so much, and it can be shattered by just a bigger fleet and all.

[Call_me_Fate]

I see he has a moon... he has likely been spying on me and I didn't even know it. His planet names look familiar, and I think he did send probes my way in the past. I will keep an eye on him for sure. I don't have much more than a few cargoes out there right now, but I need to keep my resources low so he won't attack. Build a few plasma turrets I guess.

[Krade]

He hit me a couple times on Sunday. The second time I was able to fleet save, but the first time my internet spazed on me 5 minutes before he got to me and I couldn't. He hasn't hit me since, and has only espy'd me a couple times. Too strong for me to take. I'm just going to build the big guns on more of my planets now to defend myself better.

[Call_me_Fate]

SOmehow, while I was logged on and I thought paying attention, someone managed to raid two of my planets without me getting the resources off in time. Ah well, they were busy working on new buildings anyway, so they didn't get too much, but still, wow, I was shocked I did not see them coming.

[The_Lonely_d12]

so, anyone got any suggetions for good colonies? I've got a spare colony ship, and once again it seems that every time i send it out, the planet gets colonized before I get to it.

[Krade]

You can always come out to galaxy 9 with us, but that might be a little far for you at this point.

If you want to, I could spot you the far-too-high deut cost of getting a colony ship out there.

[The_Lonely_d12]

I was actually thinking about moving out there, so sure. what system, praytell? Also, though I have the deut, one shall never turn down free res....and I'm willing to bet you're still have a glut of it somewhere, no? I'll send it out tomorrow when I wake up...my ship's moving to my 2nd galaxy colony right now,

[Call_me_Fate]

I'm in 9:73, with Zwean too. I think he has a few in 9:72, and Krade is in 9:74. I for one am full on colonies and I don't plan to move into the open spaces in my system, if you'd like one there.

[Maldraugedhen]

Hmm. I'm rapidly ascending to Colony Ship-level tech, so I might send one out that way, too.

Had a better thought on rank name--Red Shirt?

[Call_me_Fate]

Yeah, but do you want to be the Red Shirt?


I'll go change it, but then be ready for the away mission in one half hour, and bring your own coffin! :smallwink:

[The_Lonely_d12]

but there's always so much paperwork when you kill off the cannon fodder *cough cough
...I mean, new guys...

[Call_me_Fate]

We "lost him" on the mission. He "might" still be alive. Perhaps another away mission to "find" him. Any more Red Shirts want to join? No? Then I guess he stays "lost." Oh well.

[Krade]

Lonely_d12: I just ditched my planet in 9:74:5 if you want to get in on that. You don't have to, but thought you might like another planet in a slot that tends to be bigger.

Edit: And naturally, the slot that I was going to colonize in place of that planet was taken by a new player 4 FRIKKIN MINUTES BEFORE MY SHIP GOT THERE!!!!!

I think I'll move it out next to sam de cheese...

[Zweanslord]

So.. anybody want to trade deut? I got like 900k on my homeplanet which I don't have a clue what to use on.

[Krade]

I would love to trade, but unless you want deut, you wouldn't get much:smalltongue:

[Call_me_Fate]

Both of you have too much deut, and I would love some... What are you interested in, and where?

[Zweanslord]

Metal or Crystal, both I want, at my home planet. Easy, no? You get to pick.

[The_Lonely_d12]

I just might do that...I'll just need to get a new colony ship, as I just used my last one.

[Krade]

I'm mostly interested in crystal. I've got my energy tech to 11. Only 1 more level and I get the terraformer. And energy tech 12 costs 1.6mil crystal.

edit: And lo and behold! A new player took the planet I was going to AGAIN! This is getting rather irritating.

[Zweanslord]

Yeah, same as Krade, I need a lot of crystal too for that reason, but! Metal is just fine aswell, since it will allow me to make.. dum dum.. crystal mines. Or metal mines to create more metal to create crystal mines. You get the point.

[Call_me_Fate]

Hmm... well I can get some trades going Monday, when I have more time at the computer. If you can wait that long...

I just dumped a lot of my spare resources into crystal mine level 23 on my home world, 22 on another, and I have two solar plants upgrading to 24 as well. I should be able to push out enough metal and crystal though to get a good trade in by Monday though.


I have been thinking, and I was wondering your answers to this. What do you guys do when you see you have been probed? I tend to ignore it, as I figure if they don't attack what do I care. They don't normally attack. Also, how often do you catch someone in the middle of an attack on you? What do you do? I have only been successfully raided twice. Each other time I have dumped resources onto cargoes, dumped them into building something, or in some way made myself not worth raiding. Sometimes they turn, sometimes they still hit me, but other than a few defenses I think I 'win' the fight. I am working on building up a raid defense team of mostly battlecruisers that I plan to keep handy to send to a planet that is under attack, when I catch them in time. Might make it fun!


EDIT: Also, I have noticed our numbers go down. Who did we loose?

[The_Lonely_d12]

Typically, if I've been probed, and theres actual cause for worry (like a fleet en route), i either begin building something of an exhaustive cost and time to build and/or research, and i'll start playing the resource shell game, meaning i'll send it off to a planet which isn't being targeted, and build something useful with it, like that fleet of cruisers, destroyers, and battleships that I've been wanting for christmas. Of course, sometimes it'll be the guy out there that is just looking for an easy target, and doesn't have any real fleet or defense...and well, they don't do it again.

Of course, this is also what I used to do...it hasn't really happened yet since I started playing again, and I don't quite have the ability to make fleets willy-nilly again yet, but I imagine the tactics still work. There's also making it look like theres never anything of value for the cost, meaning you fleetsave often, and spend whenever possible...not letting anything accmulate in one place for long, but that can get kinda old quick.

And I've been wondering that...I don't remember who all was inactive. Your thoughts, Krade?

[Call_me_Fate]

I do the whole "spend all the resources" thing, but either I build way too many rocket launchers, or I have to let things build up so I can make higher level mines. We're talking 1 million metal alone for the things I build now. My homeworld makes 18k/hour, but that still means a long wait before I can upgade. At this point I just try to make myself a bad target. Too many powerful ships would have to come in to take out the defenses, and the few people that have tried have been denied any reward as I drain the planet seconds before the attack. Of course I have to e on to see it.

Also, I have a few lower players, like in the 1200 ranks, probing at me lately... I even had one throw three fleets of probes at me, blowing them up, before it finally got through without being countered. Darn bugs, I think I might go squish him, but he really has only 5000 metal and less crystal. Not worth the flight.

[Zweanslord]

I ignore probing. And then get attacked. It usually happens when I'm not on, but when I'm on, I just spend everything and fly away things. They haven't stopped their attack because of it so far though.

Anyway, I am still willing to trade. Got 1.2million deut on my homeworld.. heh. So, I think I'll be able to trade with you, Fate.

[Call_me_Fate]

Cool. I got my resources built up, but I need to run into the shower and head off to work, but I can trade once I get on there.

[Zweanslord]

Still waiting for some kind of establishment of trade. Just say how much deut you want, and how much metal and/or crystal you are giving in return, and I will ship off the deut to wherever you want. But I am guessing your home planet? There's a fruite 1.3 mill deut waiting on my homeworld to be traded away, and I still have 450k deut on nearby planets around my homeworld too. So yeah.. excess of deut.

[Call_me_Fate]

I just recently saw your ingame IM also. Sorry I missed it. I will be ready to trade with the home planet in the morning, as I just upgraded my solar plant to level 26 today. Man that nanite factory makes things go fast though...

[Krade]

Hey guys! I've been getting attacked! A LOT!

Just in case you were wondering why my point growth has been a little sub-par in the past few days. I probably have somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 battle reports in the past 2-3 days. None of them were in my favor.

[Call_me_Fate]

Ouch. I just had a bad attack night myself. Four attacks, and only one of them esp. probes. Nothing compared to 25, but it doubles the effective attacks against me so far. I gotta stay on in the middle of the night now! :smalleek:

[Maldraugedhen]

Wait...

God damn, I need a lot o' Deut to get out to the 9:7# region. I've got a couple colony ships ready to fly off, but I need something like 33k deut... I'm at 1:331:11, and have 98k metal if somebody wants to swap some metal for deut.

[Krade]

For now, I'm not going to worry too much about trading. My defence is seriously lacking on my planets in galaxy 9. Many, MANY light lasers will be built first, and building hundreds of those on 6 planets spends all the metal while only a portion of crystal. The remainder of the crystal from the L. Laser spamming will eventually add up to my needed amount of 1,638,400.

[The_Lonely_d12]

Wait...

God damn, I need a lot o' Deut to get out to the 9:7# region. I've got a couple colony ships ready to fly off, but I need something like 33k deut... I'm at 1:331:11, and have 98k metal if somebody wants to swap some metal for deut.

Check your PM's. Also, I wouldn't advise trying to colonize either 9:72:8 or 9:73:8 unless your ships are most of the way there already...I've got ships on the way to both slots for colonization

[The_Lonely_d12]

Hooray doublepost...kinda.

Anyways, any chance any of you more advanced players have a nice fleet anywhere near 1:97? This guy there at 1:97:10 is starting to irritate me with his successful raids...'twould be appreciated, though more like than not theres no one near him.

In other news, apparently I just passed the n00b protection limit, because I definitely just got probed by a lot of people that were ranked in the top 100 or so...so yours tuly is running to the hills with all his loot to escape the bad scary people with moons and nasty fleets.

[Call_me_Fate]

1:97:10? picouille? He is ranked 900 something. I got a few destroyers that I can harrass him with later today. Let me get them into strike position and then probe him some, see how he likes the raids.

[The_Lonely_d12]

1:97:10? picouille? He is ranked 900 something. I got a few destroyers that I can harrass him with later today. Let me get them into strike position and then probe him some, see how he likes the raids.

Cool. Muy Grassi, Senhora.

As for the 900 something, I don't remember. I just know he has like 69k points, and has weapon 8, shield 10, armour 9...and has at the very least, 45 cruisers.

No, I'm running actually from people like Blue Fire and whatnot...the people in the top 1 to 200 that just happen to be a few systems from my homeworld. When you're only at 5k points, a twitchy little ferret will you too become

[Call_me_Fate]

Yeah, I forgot about the 5k point barrier. After 5k, the noob limit spread out bigger. I had a few in your point range probe me a while back, right when they hit 5k points. I sent them back to the stone age.

[The_Lonely_d12]

Last I can remember, I thought the barrier was at 7.5k...but tha was a couple years ago, and I could still be wrong.

[Maldraugedhen]

...Yeah... I'm at a little over 500.

I've got colony ships arriving in 2 days at 9:72:9, 9:72:10, and 9:73:9, so please do not seize those planets.

[Krade]

Presently, I have 75 light fighters, 62 heavy fighters, 34 cruisers, and 781 Battleships heading for my homeworld...

All I have to say is this: HOORAY FOR FLEETSAVING!

[Call_me_Fate]

Wow, fleetsaving for sure... imagine the point loss if you get crashed!

You have more battleships than I have total ships though... and most of those are cargoes. Well, and my battlecruiser defense task force.

[Krade]

I think you misunderstood what I was saying (I guess it was kind of ambiguous). That fleet is an attacking fleet. Meaning that very bad and painful things were sure to happen if hadn't fleet saved (and made 699 more light lasers because I didn't have enough ships to pull everything).

[Call_me_Fate]

Ahhh...

I thought you were moving back to the lower galaxies to fight the good fight with someone...

OK, then yes, thank goodness for fleetsave!!


I got one fleet that keeps coming to visit in the 6 galaxy. Once i get a few more battlecruisers, he's going down!

[Krade]

I'm getting fairly close to Energy tech 12. I would have been ready to start research as soon as I wake up in the morning/early afternoon, but I had to spend 350k crystal (and over 1mil metal) on 700 L lasers to get the guy that was about to attack me to pull back his fleet. Now I'm 200k shy of the needed amount.

Anyone wanna trade? I've got plenty of deut.:smallbiggrin:

Edit: Alright! I'm finally back into the 800s in the ranks. Al this trouble started when I ditched my planet (which was worth about 3,000 points). Then I got attacked. Then I got attacked some more. And then I got attacked some more. But now? I think I'm finally starting to bounce back.

[Krade]

Okay, so I was a bit off when I said I would be 200k short because I forgot about the 12 hours of production between three of my planets. I'm really off by about 39k, which is being rectified as of this writing. In about 35 minutes, I'll start energy tech 12. HOORAY!!

Edit: Okay then. Only 39 hours until I can start making terraformers. WHOOPEEE!!!

[The_Lonely_d12]

So I'm really tired of only getting planets with below average fields. My latest colony is in a 5 slot, and has a whopping 70 fields. I seem to be having this problem with all of my colonies. I think I liked it much better when the further from the sun you were, the larger the planets were. I had a colony once in the 12 slot that had nearly 300 fields. Now, I'm lucky to find one in the 4-7 range that has 100.

[Maldraugedhen]

I've got 2 colonies with under 80 fields. Think I'm just gonna use them as stripmines until I can get some more colony ships.

[Call_me_Fate]

That is what I do with them. Build up nothing but some mines and a shipyard to get a little defense. Then load up some cargoes and start the transport until you fill up on colonies and need to drop them.

[Krade]

I guess I just got lucky with most of my planets. I have 94, 119, 158, 167, 174, 175, 235, 315. The 235 and 315 ones are in slots 4 and 6 respectively. Of course, these numbers will be going up rather soon now that I can almost build terraformers.

[The_Lonely_d12]

The largest I have is actually in an 11 slot, I believe. I've pretty much been using my small colonies as resource and fleet farms for the time being...I'll just send off the resources somewhere else if I want to research something, or if something needs building. Terraformers would be nice, but it's going to take a long time to get to them.

[Call_me_Fate]

How do terraformers work? I thought they took a bunch of energy to use. I don't know if my two lowest planets would be worth building one on. Better off just blowing it up, then having a fee slot for when I go out on war, so that I can build a colony right next door to my enemies...

[The_Lonely_d12]

Well....
costs for terraformer:
lv1 Crystal Deuterium Energy
---50.000 100.000 1000
lv2 Crystal Deuterium Energy
---100.000 200.000 2000
lv3 Crystal Deuterium Energy
---200.000 400.000 4000
lv4 Crystal Deuterium Energy
---400.000 800.000 8000... etc

and they only give 5 fields...one of which is taken up by the terraformer.

They're good i suppose for concrete points, and for increasing your homeworld fields, but they seem to be wasted when using them on smaller planets...it's better probably to abandon the planet and get a bigger one, if the planet is too small.

[Krade]

I think what it says about energy is just the fact that you need energy tech 12 to get it. I'm not 100% sure on that, but I'm pretty sure. In any case, I'll let you all know when I get home tomorrow afternoon since the research will finish at 5am and I have to work in the morning.
Simu'd!!!!!!
Oh well. Do we know if you need to keep that energy available or if you can use it for something else after it's built?

On a side note: I love being able to make battleships in under 30 minutes.:smallbiggrin:

[The_Lonely_d12]

I'm not sure, as I never had them-they didn't exist way back when-but i think that the energy is removed...so no, you probably can't use it.

And as for the side note...thats as quick as you can make them? Psshhhaaw. I could churn them out in just under 15 minutes each. :P

[Call_me_Fate]

Speaking of Battleships, I have been putting a few more resources into my fleet lately. Anyone being pestered that you think I might have a shot at fighting? Don't send me off against someone ranked like 19, but I gave a good smashing to a few in the 900s so far, and that one that was bugging d12 (although he has still gone up fast in ranks).

[The_Lonely_d12]

Speaking of Battleships, I have been putting a few more resources into my fleet lately. Anyone being pestered that you think I might have a shot at fighting? Don't send me off against someone ranked like 19, but I gave a good smashing to a few in the 900s so far, and that one that was bugging d12 (although he has still gone up fast in ranks).

To which I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

[Call_me_Fate]

Has he stopped bugging you then?

[The_Lonely_d12]

yes, he has. Of course, I haven't really been keeping anything in one spot long enough to get raided, so that could be part of it, but he stopped probing me at the least.

[Krade]

And as for the side note...thats as quick as you can make them? Psshhhaaw. I could churn them out in just under 15 minutes each. :P
Hey now, all I'd need to do to get my time that low is upgrade my nanite factory to level 2. At which time, it would take me 13 minutes and 50 seconds to churn out a Battleship.


Edit: Not that I need to be able to make them that fast right now. The important thing is that I can make them as fast as I can afford them. Any faster isn't really necesary.

[The_Lonely_d12]

No, you don't get it. I could do that on most of my colonies, though I could only really afford to mass produce them on maybe one or two if I had res shipped out to them constantly.

[Krade]

Just to clarify: you ARE talking about your old account 2 years ago right? There's no way you can do that now.

[The_Lonely_d12]

no, I'm talking about my current account. I've got swarms of battleships waiting my command, and the only reason my points haven't gone up yet is because due to some design flaw, they all seem to be spontaneously combusting as soon as they are finished building. :smallamused:

[Jo_Jampa]

Could I join the GITP alliance? Currently still getting started (system 1:172:11). ogame name: NullSpace

[Call_me_Fate]

IF you'd like in that would be cool. You just need to do to the alliance tab and find us, then send in an application. Either Krade or I can then let you in. What silly rank name would you like?

[Doglord]

Well, some random guy attacked me while I was saving ressie for plasma tech 7, so I could use plasma cannons against that sort of person...

[Ben7el]

Mighth I join GITP?

[Call_me_Fate]

Welcome. What silly rank name would you like?


Dangit. I was logged in, and in between checking on my games here and dealing with a situation... I was raided rather bad. Not a happy camper! At least the fleetsave means he only took out one destroyer, but still... I think I got the better of him though, since I did take out many battleships in his first attack. It was the second and third wave that stunk.

[Ben7el]

Kobold Pirate

:smalltongue:

[Jo_Jampa]

hmmm silly name? Admiral Chrome Dome?

[Call_me_Fate]

Can do, just need to to apply :smallbiggrin:

[Krade]

Welcome new guys!

Now, on to what passes for business around here:

I should probably tell everyone that I will be moving across the country around mid-July. This will have an unacceptably large possibility of temporarily, or, gods forbid, permanently removing my stable access to the internet. I do know that there is a library semi-close to where I will be living, but that wouldn't be enough to keep my ogame account running very smoothly. Should I have to give up ogame (at least for a while), I will be passing the status of "Founder" to either Call_me_Fate, Zweanslord, or The_Lonely_d12. Fate and Z made the list for the obvious reasons of being our oldest and strongest members. d12 made it for a couple of reasons: He's very experienced, and he's a RL friend, and that's worth some points. Of course, it may not come to this, but I feel it should be addressed relatively early so we can at least pretend to have some sort of real organization.

[Call_me_Fate]

Well, I can't imagine you're going to have to give it p forever. Vacation mode can save you some hassles for a few weeks, and when you get internet again things can get picked up. I don't think we need to talk about replacements yet, oh glorious leader!

[The_Lonely_d12]

Mid july? I thought you were waiting until august?

[Krade]

If I wait till August, then I might miss going to GenCon. That, and I wan't to spend as little time as possible in Key West. Ive been here for over 7 years and I'm tired of it.

Vacation mode was a part of my plan. The problem is that for the first time in my life I'll have to provide my own internet access and buy a computer.

[The_Lonely_d12]

Well, thats a shame. I don't know when i'll be getting down there again, so...also, what are you really going to do at gencon again? Plus, trust me, you could be a lot worse off than key west. I lived in Oklahoma for 6 years. That, my friend, was hell. And quite possibly purgatory.

...as a totally non-selfish request :smallamused: , any chance you can wait until, say, late july? Mid july kinda sounds like July 12th...the earliest I'll get there is probably like the third or so.

[Krade]

Let's see...

My mom is planning to return from her vacation around the 7th or 8th. After said return, I'm free to leave whenever I want, and I want that to be as soon as possible as I am also quite tired of Blockbuster. My coworkers have been getting progressively more irritating and stupid and don't even get me started on the fiasco that was the new manager. Not to mention the complete inability to find ANYTHING without ordering it. I can't wait to live somewhere that I can actually find what I want when I want it.

But you know what? I just got an idea!

PMing you now with more details...

[The_Lonely_d12]

So, looks like its about that time for abandoning a colony...I'm getting really tired of rebuilding solar sattelites. I've been using this one colony as a ship farm...I've only been making for the most part lf, lc, and battleships with whatever resources were available on the planet...apparently someone thoght it and my home world would be a good target. Luckily, I signed on early enough to at least try to avert the catastrophe on my main, but anyways. Y'see, this is why I hate moons. With a burning passion. The guy probably timed it for when my fleets would be getting back, more or less. Either that, or just wanted an easy hit...easy in that he's attacking me with close to a hundred battleships, a few battlecruisers, and a few lc's for looting.

[Call_me_Fate]

Who? I have nearing 50 destroyers and well over 100 battleships, with 25 battlecruisers for good measure, fleetsaving near my home and middle plannets. I can get a strike off either today or tommorrow.



Also, Doglord, I just noticed your SOS. Still need it? I can send out a fleet to hit MagNum easy. Let me probe him a bit...

[The_Lonely_d12]

1:74:9, Name of honestchild, he's in the HeLL alliance, and is somewhere around 1200 rank, I believe.

Also, I kinda feel like I''m taking advantage of the fact that there are people that much stronger than me in the alliance...a thousand thanks. I was just kinda mentioning the soon to be loss of however many points from the planet, and letting off some steam.

[Call_me_Fate]

He has himself a moon! I can't beleive that is anything more than luck after he got fleetcrashed or something. Maybe he really was attacked and fended it off, but at his rank I don't think so.

WOW. He has a ton of duet. I'd attack him just for that. Plus, it looks like fleetcrashing time, unless he is online and about to send them off.

Time to run a few sims and see what I need to send.

[Krade]

hehehehe...

Damoneti is attacking me again...

He's attacking my planet with no defense... with only cargos!
I'm seeing a Heavy Laser finishing being built within a minute or two of his arrival.

Edit: Hey Fate. Any chance I could get you to email your sim program to me? I tried to get one myself but I couldn't find it.

[Call_me_Fate]

That guys does a few raids on me every now and again. Normally I get my planets cear in time.

Letely I have ben shipping all my stuff to one planet in each system, to build faster and he has stopped attacking.

I use a page actually, not the program. If you click help on the OGame screen, then Dragosim on the far left of the screen that popups.

[Krade]

Ok...

So apparently, 1 heavy laser can't stand up to 30 small cargos.

I killed 3 of them, but the rest got through...

Dammit... just dammit.

[Call_me_Fate]

That seems odd. I never knew cargoes could beat a laser.

[Krade]

Well, with level 10 weapons tech they have an attack power of 10. Then theres 30 of them. In retrospect, it probably would have been better to make more light lasers than 1 heavy laser.

[Call_me_Fate]

Metal: 92,850/hour
Crystal: 45,330/hour
Deut: 3,340/hour

Heh, not much deut I guess, but I don't use much more than research and a few plasmas

Update time!!

Metal: 132,870/hour
Crystal: 64,670/hour
Deut: 7,040/hour


Still not much deut, but crankin' out the others! Upgraded crystal mine on the home world to 24 just yesterday. Saving up for 25 soon, but I think I might do something else with the 3.8mil metal and 1.9mil crystal before I go there.

[The_Lonely_d12]

Speaking of fleet crashes... looks like i'll be starting mine over from scratch.:smallsigh: I had a nice little fleet going too, considering my size/ranking. The asshat already got the debris, too. Different guy than last attack, though. Making all those battleships and cruisers again will be a real pain, thats for sure.

And Krade? What did I say about building heavy lasers?

[Krade]

Hey now. I forgot that cargos had an attack rating higher than 1. I wanted to make sure it wasn't too obvious that I was online so I just built 1 Heavy laser and thought that would be enough. Of course, he didn't espy me again before it happened, so several L. Lasers would have definitely been better.

[The_Lonely_d12]

This is getting bleedin' ridiculous! I got attacked AGAIN! 3 minutes after whats left of my fleet arrives at my Galaxy 5 planet. :smallfurious:

[Krade]

Look! I can update too!

Metal: 70,826
Crystal: 39,872
Deut: 11,311

Heh... Nowhere near as much metal and crystal as Fate, but way more deut. But if you look it the trading possibilities that open up with massive amounts of deuterium, it can over shadow slower production of the other two resources. I mean, I just traded over 1 million deut for even more millions of metal and crystal.

[Call_me_Fate]

That is a nice chunk of deut. I have two fleets right now because I can't get one to the other. Not enough deut... Kinda sucks. 100 battleships and a few odd destroyers and battlecruises just hanging around. Well, fleetsaving, but hanging around.

[Valamere]

Hey everyone this is Valamere from AXIS so i was just going to contact you and ask if we are allies

[Call_me_Fate]

I don't think we have any allies, but we would love to add some!

[Valamere]

Cool i wasnt realy sure. I know that it was talked about it here (http://axisforum.proboards75.com/index.cgi?board=haha&action=display&thread=1177134730) though

[Call_me_Fate]

OK. I edited our page to reflect this. We do need more allies.

[Krade]

Wow, that was like, 6 pages ago for us.

I was wondering when someone from your side would respond.

[Valamere]

My friend id preaty slow about anything generaly usualy just lazy though

[Krade]

I just got fleet crashed! Hooray!

You'd better be sitting down when you read this:
The attacker has won the battle!
He captured
74.526 metal, 43.423 crystal, and 217.122 deuterium

The attacker lost a total of 3.376.000 units.
The defender lost a total of 27.468.000 units.
At these space coordinates now float 4.158.600 metal and 2.220.000 crystal.
The chance for a moon to be created is 20 %

He had 244 L Fighters, 1,297 Battleships, and 863 Battlecruisers.


I really wish I had fleet saved... And I didn't even get a moon with my 20% chance... shucks...

[Jo_Jampa]

Wow ... I don't know if I will ever make it out of noob protection, but is that what I have to look forward to? just, wow.

[Call_me_Fate]

HOLY... Wow. And not even a moon out of it. Fleetsaving always feels so silly, because I don't get attacked, but when fleets fly around with 500 battleships and 250 destroers... I could not hold up against that. Which reminds me to go fleetsave.


Also Jo, I didn't even build a fleet until just recently. Well, not more than a few battleships for farming. Most of my points are in mines, which can't be taken away. :smallwink:

[Jo_Jampa]

Currently, I have adopted the approach of just building everything I can, whether new buildings, or research, trying to get as many pre-reqs done as possible on the Technology page. Did build a couple of espionage probes, but haven't used them yet. Probably will learn that game mechanic by 'probing' a vacant/empty planet first.

[Call_me_Fate]

I don't know if you can probe an emprt planet, but look for one nearby with an (i) or (I) next to the name. That means inactive, so the player has not logged in or a while.

Or probe one of your fellow GitPers. We don't mind. :smallwink:

[Jo_Jampa]

Ah, then maybe I will send a probe your way. :smallredface: I have several in my system with (s) next to their names. I think I have 15, 39, and 48 ranked alliances as neighbors. And, K.O.Turk who is banned, so maybe I probe them.

[Call_me_Fate]

Banned you should be able to get. (s) means they are too strong for you. You have noob protection, so it is only fair that you can't attack them. The same will be for me, with a (s) near my name. Those alliance ranks are rather high to have next door... I hope they don't cause trouble.

[The_Lonely_d12]

So, looking to trade for (relatively) small amounts of deut...I can ship to basically much anywhere without it being ridiculously expensive. I'm trying to get a nice reserve ready for the last bit of comp tech and robot factory, leading into nanite production. I want to at least get the tech out of the way, and I'll probably need somewhere around 300k deut for that.

I would really prefer to trade both metal and crytal...as you could imagine, trading 900k metal is a bit daunting a task for my current outputs, so...
any takers? You can either leave word here, or pm me in-game or on the boards here. Thanks.

Also,...just wow, krade. Our collective hearts weep for your loss. That, and the lack of a moon.

[Maldraugedhen]

...Uh.

Crap.

Do any of you guys have accounts on U22? My little alliance (me and a couple real-world buds, for a grand total of 3 players) has just caught the eye of the 46-member Planet Destroyer Alliance. They sent us a join-or-die notice, and while I have managed to keep their chatspeaking moron of a rep in the dark about what we're going to do, we're going to need some serious military backing if we're going to be able to hold against an alliance that's fifteen times our size and mostly composed of high point players, especially compared to our little squad.

[Krade]

Well, It does kinda suck that I lost over 20% of points. And I didn't get a moon, that would have been nice. But I've learned a valuable lesson: While most people won't try anything, there's aways a possibility that someone in the top 10 will just come and annihilate you whole fleet and the clean up the debris afterwards (which happened to be 4mil metal and 2 mil crystal).

Edit: Sorry Mal, looks like you are SOL. So basically, they want you to join their alliance and if you don't they are going to mess you up good? Well I think the obvious solution here is to just join them since there isn't much you'd be able to do.

[The_Lonely_d12]

Yeah, I've had days like that. It's things like that that made me quit Ogame in the first place...although it happened a lot more frequently than it has to you so far.

[Maldraugedhen]

Sorry Mal, looks like you are SOL. So basically, they want you to join their alliance and if you don't they are going to mess you up good? Well I think the obvious solution here is to just join them since there isn't much you'd be able to do.

There's a little detail here you should know about.

The alliance's name is the Independent People's Movement for a reason. We (or, at least, I) don't plan on joining, or quitting. We plan on scrounging up some allies, on playing the firebrand, on fighting them even if we get screwed for resources every five minutes (which would be legal the way flooding works right now).

At the very least, I'm going to have some fun messing with their rep first.

[dehro]

I still wonder what ogame has to do with roleplaying

[Maldraugedhen]

Depends on where you look. I myself use it for a bit of RPing on 22. The alliance is named after a faction (the 'bad guys,' actually) I came up with for an old scifi RP that never really got off the ground, named the Liberation Squad. Followed a squad of actual space marines that, y'know, boarded craft and things like that, rather than fighting off invasion forces or purging the impure. Wasn't really 40K at all, but that's the line of thought I was working from.

[Krade]

I still wonder what ogame has to do with roleplayingUmm... yes?

Seriously though, what are you talking about? We aren't in the roleplaying section of the forums, not even the section where paople talk ABOUT roleplaying. I think you may be a smidgen of a wee bit confused. Just a bit.

[The_Lonely_d12]

y'see, I was trying to be good and not rip into him, krade. I was jst going to pretend like nothing had happened. Now, you had to ruin that for me. Now I have to think of some biting, acerbic comment to say, and word it so you can't really tell just how caustic it is (making you look more the fool), and I really don't want to have to do that again...it's just not as fulfilling as it used to be.

[Call_me_Fate]

Hark, ye herald of thy unbeknownst news! Thy concepts of this fine game be daft! Oft I play the might fine roles whilst engrossed into the depths of the OGame! How dare you offend me knave! Retrieve thy blaster, and prepare for single combat with my destroyer fleets!

:smalltongue:

[dehro]

Umm... yes?

Seriously though, what are you talking about? We aren't in the roleplaying section of the forums, not even the section where paople talk ABOUT roleplaying. I think you may be a smidgen of a wee bit confused. Just a bit.

I'm not the one getting confused, but I know a lot of people who actually treat Ogame as if it where a RPG, when to me it is not.
I'm talking about what ogame is and isn't, definitelly on topic and definitelly in the right section.

of course since I see here a lot of people who actually play Ogame with far more competence than me, (I quit after a couple of weeks) I've asked their opinion on the matter..since English is not my first language, next time I'll put in a question mark so to make the question easier to understand :smallbiggrin:

[Krade]

Ah, I see. I guess that makes it a bit different then...

Well, the funny thing with nerds/geeks/whatever the proper terminolyogy is, is that they can treat anything, ANYTHING like an RPG whether it's meant to be or not. Now, I didn't think it would be too common for people to do that in ogame because unless you are already friends with someone else, there is very little non-agressive interaction in ogame, making RPing kinda hard unless you just RP by yourself, and that's kinda sad. I sure haven't run into any body that tried to RP with me, but now that we've talked about, It's bound to happen relatively soon.

Edit: Is it bad that I can't tell if Fate's joking or not? Even with the :smalltongue: it's still a mite difficult.

[The_Lonely_d12]

Just do like I do: laugh at everything like it's a joke, and treat everything half seriously just in case

[Call_me_Fate]

Heh... well I am quite the role player. :smallbiggrin:

[Maldraugedhen]

I've had plenty of practice in my small group of friends, but too many threads of ours nosedived in infancy. I think we finished all of one RP thread, ever.

Got a few messages out to other players in U22, might be pulling a firebrand on these Planet Destroyer morons. I'll tell you guys how it turns out.

[Krade]

So I guess nothing interesting has happened in the past 4 days? Ok, how 'bout this...

I once again possess an insane surplus of deuterium. Over 1.3million. So if any of you would like to trade, I'd be more than happy to do so. Also, if any of the lower ranked people would like (relatively) small donations, I would be happy to oblige.

On a side note: How about that update huh? Now we can see EVERYBODY'S rank instead of just the minority in the top. Its about time they did that.

Edit: Oh yeah, one more thing. Hey Mal, how's that firebrand deally going in UNI22?

[Call_me_Fate]

I never even noticed that rank thing. I guess when your 375 the lower ranks don't come up much. :smalltongue: :smallwink:

Yeah, not much going on with me. Got level two nanite factory at home, level one coming soon to my primary planets in my secondary systems. Building up a nice sized fleet, and I crashed a few parties that thought they could raid on me. I broke up a few raids that had the attackers givng me a 15-20% moon chance each time. Fun stuff. No moon though. :smallfrown:

But yeah, not much to report. One thing that has been happening is the officers have been acting funny. The game keeps forgeting I have the energy upgrade, and when I look at my planet my energy drops into the red until I click on the resources tab to remind them I have enough. :smallconfused:

[Call_me_Fate]

HAHA! You know what I just noticed. Steve the ERB has more fleet points than I do! He is right above me!

Hmm. Now I want to check everyone else out.

[The_Lonely_d12]

I'm just sitting in my car and waiting for my girl....

oh sorry, actually just getting stuff together for nanite production. Currently waiting right now for last lvl of robot factory to finish...I'll probably have to wait a little bit for the res to accumulate, but anyways. Also, starting to build up a small fleet, a flotilla if you will, just for when it's not really worth shipping resources elsewhere. Lastly, beginning work on La Mer. It's kinda funny that my slot 10 and 11 planets all have more fields than any of my slot 4-7 planets...funny in a rather unfortunate fashion.

[Krade]

Bonus points if anyone (aside from myself and d12, of course) knows off the top of their head what song those lyrics in d12's post are from. What do you get, you ask? Bonus points. Whether or not said points are or will ever be worth anything tangible remains to be determined.

It should be easy, it is not very obscure.

Edit: Hey d12, look at what I found:

Calculating Planet Size (number of fields)
pos1 to 3: 80% between 40 and 70 fields (55+/-15)
pos4 to 6: 80% between 120 and 310 fields (215+/-95)
pos7 to 9: 80% between 105 and 195 fields (150+/-45)
pos10 to 12: 80% between 75 and 125 fields (100+/-25)
pos13 to 15: 80% between 60 and 190 fields (125+/-65)

Found this here (http://www.ogametips.com/21/using-fields-wisely)

[The_Lonely_d12]

sorry to burst your bubble, sonny jim...but I kinda already had that :smallcool:

i went looking for one of them after getting frustrated the first time with my planet sizes. I'm pretty sure my account probably got randomly picked to be the exception to the rule for planet sizes in the 4-7 range. You know, what with my slot 5 being 50 fields smaller than the supposed minimum.

And I could have done obscure. It's not difficult, and you know that.

Hell, we could make this into a game: whoever can figure out the obscure lyrics gets a bonus point, maybe even a cookie.

[Steve_the_ERB]

HAHA! You know what I just noticed. Steve the ERB has more fleet points than I do! He is right above me!

Hmm. Now I want to check everyone else out.

How the hell did I do that? I don't chat much on the forums here, just go about my merry way building things. I have a couple dozen battleships and cruisers, but I didn't think it was much of anything really.

[Call_me_Fate]

I really don't know, unless it is a ratio of fleet points:total points. I have nearly one hundred destroyers, nearly two hundred battleships, and hundreds of cargoes all over the place. Hard to beileive that your fleet points are higher, but they were when I looked.

Zwean is above me too, but you are over both of us.

[Steve_the_ERB]

It has to be a ratio, I haven't even developed destroyers yet.

While I'm here, do people use a lot of fusion reactors or just solar plants and a bunch of satellites?

[Jo_Jampa]

Fusion reactors? Still trying to get enough resources together to allow me to justify them. They produce alot of energy, but seems a wash in terms of 'cost' of deut? So, solar is what I am using.

[Call_me_Fate]

I have level 24-26 solars, and not even one level of fusion anywhere. When I first played, I had them built, but cranked down. I turned them up on the resources tab as needed, but so far this game I don't need them at all.