PF & 3.5 Making the MAD monk

[Shadowscale]

Alright so the way my dm lets us roll our stats is very much in the player's favor and he let us add 4 attribute points as we see fit leaving me with at first level
Strength: 16
Dexterity: 24
Constitution 16
Intelligence: 12
Wisdom: 18
Charisma: 12

Now the question is, with all these decent attributes at first level Would me playing a full Orc monk in pathfinder be doable? If so how many levels can I get away with without being bad? I don't think ultimate classes is allowed for brawler, any good anything to make a monk work if you can feed its MADness?

[Snails]

MAD is not really an issue with those stats, but you still need to focus on a role within the party to excel.

It looks like you are going withe the high AC + weapon finesse route. I have to admit that is not my favorite.

What do you picture yourself doing? Who else is in your party? What kind of teamwork do you hope to achieve?

[emeraldstreak]

PF only or 3.P?

[Shadowscale]

MAD is not really an issue with those stats, but you still need to focus on a role within the party to excel.

It looks like you are going withe the high AC + weapon finesse route. I have to admit that is not my favorite.

What do you picture yourself doing? Who else is in your party? What kind of teamwork do you hope to achieve?

We have a druid, ranger (TWF) and rogue in our party. I just knew things like stunning fist and and having a decent AC require really high wisdom and dexterity. I wanted to specialize in being a dexterity demon, impossible to hit, crazy movement speed and as many attacks per turn as possible. I hope to be the one who if the going gets tough will always be able to survive and avoid being hit and killed and therefore save the party if need be by the power of speed.

I can still flip my stats around if the +4 from orc and +4 my dm gave me are better put somewhere else, currently only one of the mis factored in and they went to dex.


PF only or 3.P?
3.P The less obscure the better though.

[Snails]

You really need a stat to help you hit. If you do not have a high Str, you will need to burn a precious feat on Weapon Finesse. 16 Str is not good enough, unless you have Bull's Str all the time.

Your party is going to have an insanely low AC. The good news is your idea of being the high AC guy could well work. The bad news is you might have trouble in some encounters anyway, unless you can take down at least some of your opponents quickly. The other bad news is being the high AC guy means you have to stay put where you will get hit.

IMHO, the vanilla Monk would emphasize Str (in order to hit), and Wis (in order to stun). You cannot count on Stun, but anything that fails a Stun save will evaporate if the Rogue can get a full attack.

Is the Rogue a ranged specialist, melee specialist, or balanced build? If he is a range specialist, tumbling around a hoping to stun things may work out very well.

One more thing: I do love the party composition, because your potential for stealthy surprise attacks is downright scary.

[Shadowscale]

You really need a stat to help you hit. If you do not have a high Str, you will need to burn a precious feat on Weapon Finesse. 16 Str is not good enough, unless you have Bull's Str all the time.

Your party is going to have an insanely low AC. The good news is your idea of being the high AC guy could well work. The bad news is you might have trouble in some encounters anyway, unless you can take down at least some of your opponents quickly. The other bad news is being the high AC guy means you have to stay put where you will get hit.

IMHO, the vanilla Monk would emphasize Str (in order to hit), and Wis (in order to stun). You cannot count on Stun, but anything that fails a Stun save will evaporate if the Rogue can get a full attack.

Is the Rogue a ranged specialist, melee specialist, or balanced build? If he is a range specialist, tumbling around a hoping to stun things may work out very well.

One more thing: I do love the party composition, because your potential for stealthy surprise attacks is downright scary.The rogue is a new player, but I think his idea is sneak attacking with flanking and all that, most likely a finesse dex sneak attack build for him, we'll help him out his stats are all 14's and 16's.

So my stats should be (factoring in +4 and Orc stats.)

Strength 22
Dexterity: 16
Constitution: 16
Intelligence: 10
Wisdom 20
Charisma 10

What would be a good first level feat then?

How would you imagine us all ambushing with the druid and everything?


I was thinking using my high movement speed to move first straight into the enemies so they have to either hit me or take attacks of opportunity which at higher levels with a monk especially you can get tons of each time. And flurry, cause I love flurry.

Maybe I should take either power attack or combat reflexes. Or even improved initiative.

Also do orc feats exist? Sorry just was curious since they're such an interesting race and all. Gonna use PF's advanced race guide and get some decent Alternate class features for when I build her.

Also had planned on taking all 10 levels of Initiate of the Draconic Mysteries for flavor and capstone, if that changes anything.