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nimmo0110
2014-10-24, 12:18 PM
so i'm playing a game next week as a ranger starting at lv 3. and i was thinking of buying a riding dog (i'm a halfling) and was wondering if there was any templates like Warbeast. The state bonuses and i love how i can just train any animal with this so my question is are there any other templates like this?
Other inherited templates are welcome but i am really interested in the 'Trainable' ones.

Demidos
2014-10-24, 12:21 PM
Nooooot really, no. There's not really any trainable templates besides warbeast. If you make the dog your animal companion at level 4, then it'll get some decent bonuses, but past that....

On the other hand, if your DM ever sends were-creatures at you....A werewolf dog would be amusing and potentially quite powerful :smalltongue:

nimmo0110
2014-10-24, 01:06 PM
hello Mrs werewolf can you please bite my dog while we enchant our swords and ready our silver weapons. :smallbiggrin:

Petrocorus
2014-10-24, 02:09 PM
so i'm playing a game next week as a ranger starting at lv 3. and i was thinking of buying a riding dog (i'm a halfling) and was wondering if there was any templates like Warbeast. The state bonuses and i love how i can just train any animal with this so my question is are there any other templates like this?
Other inherited templates are welcome but i am really interested in the 'Trainable' ones.

Except that the Warbeast template is more or less include in the riding dog stat. The riding dog is basically a dog with the warbeast template and a few differences.

Here is a template index (http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-character-optimization/threads/1117261).
The Magebred template is for animals. The Dark and Shadow templates are usable on animals. They all are pretty good.
Spellwarped creature too, but the LA is +3.

Val666
2014-10-24, 02:43 PM
Pseudonatural please e.e

Coidzor
2014-10-24, 03:28 PM
Woodling makes them plant-like without making them into plants and gives some SLAs based on charisma, IIRC.

Greenbound is a more extreme version that just makes them into a plant, so make sure not to mix those up.

There's a fairly good list of templates that keep Animals as Animals here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?372681-How-do-template-stacked-Animals-compare-to-more-common-corpses-for-necromancy).

Inevitability
2014-10-25, 12:02 AM
Ghost. :smalltongue:

http://spyhunter007.com/Images/nightmare_halloween_dog.jpg

The worst part, it's even rules-legal.

Urpriest
2014-10-25, 12:20 PM
Ghost. :smalltongue:

http://spyhunter007.com/Images/nightmare_halloween_dog.jpg

The worst part, it's even rules-legal.

Pretty sure you need Ghost Brute.

But yeah, you can't train a preexisting non-warbeast creature as a warbeast, that's a misinterpretation. What you can do is buy a warbeast, and then train it using the same DCs you would use to train the base creature. And as mentioned, a riding dog is already a "war creature" and thus doesn't qualify.

Inevitability
2014-10-25, 02:41 PM
Pretty sure you need Ghost Brute.

Nope. Look:


"Ghost" is an acquired template that can be added to any aberration, animal, dragon, giant, humanoid, magical beast, monstrous humanoid, or plant. The creature (referred to hereafter as the base creature) must have a Charisma score of at least 6.

Are riding dogs one of the listed types? Yes.
Do they have at least 6 charisma? Yes.

Urpriest
2014-10-25, 08:21 PM
Nope. Look:



Are riding dogs one of the listed types? Yes.
Do they have at least 6 charisma? Yes.

Ah I see. I hadn't checked, I had thought the Cha requirement was more stringent.

Inevitability
2014-10-26, 12:33 AM
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081023004830/uncyclopedia/images/7/7c/Themoreyouknow.jpg
10 character rule grumble grumble grumble...

Phelix-Mu
2014-10-26, 01:55 AM
The confusion over Warbeast continues to befuddle me, but it's largely down to WotC having totally botched or neglected their updates in the edition-revision turnover. *sigh*

JackRackham
2014-10-26, 01:47 PM
Half dragon. Just don't think about it too hard.