StP Erudite and Spell/Psionic craft

[heavyfuel]

After asking many times in the RAW thread with no answer, I come the rest of the forum to answer me this.

If a StP Erudite manifests a Mage Armor. Do I use psycraft or spellcraft to identify it? Also to which school of magic or psionic discipline does it belong to?

[Kevingway]

You're manifesting, so technically psicraft.

[heavyfuel]

You're manifesting, so technically psicraft.

That's what I was thinking as well. But what is identified with it? Do i identify a Conjuration even if I have no idea what it is (ie, no ranks in Spellcraft)?

[Vortenger]

That's what I was thinking as well. But what is identified with it? Do i identify a Conjuration even if I have no idea what it is (ie, no ranks in Spellcraft)?
You would identify as per the transparency section powers

Conjuration with psicraft breaks down to:

Calling/Summoning: Metacreativity
Healing: Psychometabolism
Teleportation: Psycoportation

The others schools break down much more simply, btw.

[darksolitaire]

IMO, someone with high spellcraft would get "That looks awful lot like a mage armor, but it's different!"

[heavyfuel]

You would identify as per the transparency section powers

Conjuration with psicraft breaks down to:

Calling/Summoning: Metacreativity
Healing: Psychometabolism
Teleportation: Psycoportation

The others schools break down much more simply, btw.

Hmm. Where can I find this section? The SRD?

[AnonymousPepper]

IMO, someone with high spellcraft would get "That looks awful lot like a mage armor, but it's different!"

This is what I'd go with as a DM. Allow both to work. Maybe increase the DC for the "wrong" skill by an insignificant amount (+2?) if you want to (shouldn't hurt too much; most people who take ranks in Spellcraft max it anyway).

It certainly makes sense. It's the same effect, just created differently.

[heavyfuel]

This is what I'd go with as a DM. Allow both to work. Maybe increase the DC for the "wrong" skill by an insignificant amount (+2?) if you want to (shouldn't hurt too much; most people who take ranks in Spellcraft max it anyway).

It certainly makes sense. It's the same effect, just created differently.

What if the DM (me) is playing by the strict Transparency rules presented here: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicPowersOverview.htm. Where only SR, Dispel Magic and Detect Magic work on Psionics? I really want a RAW answer for this question, though I probably shouldv'e specified it

[AnonymousPepper]

What if the DM (me) is playing by the strict Transparency rules presented here: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicPowersOverview.htm. Where only SR, Dispel Magic and Detect Magic work on Psionics? I really want a RAW answer for this question, though I probably shouldv'e specified it

Don't think it's COMPLETELY RAW but the way it's written - look at the rules on Detect Magic - it seems to imply that you would need the corresponding skill.

That's as close to a RAW answer as you can get from that. It's still RAI, but emphasis on the "rules" rather than on the "interpreted."

[heavyfuel]

Don't think it's COMPLETELY RAW but the way it's written - look at the rules on Detect Magic - it seems to imply that you would need the corresponding skill.

That's as close to a RAW answer as you can get from that. It's still RAI, but emphasis on the "rules" rather than on the "interpreted."

Ok. So it's Psicraft and not Spellcraft. But now we're walking the same road again and we'll reach the same obstacle: What school or discipline is identified? If one only has Psicraft that is

[heavyfuel]

Hmm. Where can I find this section? The SRD?

Bumping this.

[Renen]

I'd ID it as Metacreativity, which IC would be synonymous to Conjuration.