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Pinkcrusade
2014-11-13, 11:44 PM
Greetings, Playground.

I was conceptualizing a character whose primary method of killing enemies is drowing them in some way (Create Water and then shoving their head into it)? In this scenario, would it be possible to skip directly to the three rounds of drowning due to aggressively holding their head underwater (removing the ~16 rounds of holding your breath)?

Thanks

MesiDoomstalker
2014-11-13, 11:51 PM
Well, if I was your DM, I'd make you Grapple your target into a Pin before you get to drowning part. Only then would I consider going to 3-round Drowning.

Milodiah
2014-11-14, 01:11 AM
"...Note: Conjuration spells can’t create substances or objects within a creature"

Stupid SRD, ruining my sadistic ideas.

There is, of course, the physiological fact that sleeping creatures are more prone to drowning due to the fact that they unconsciously inhale and exhale. Dropping a Sleep spell of some kind on somebody and then attempting to drown them will prevent them from deliberately taking that first lungful of air, plus the disorientation of waking up drowning is a powerful force in your favor if the DM considers it properly.

Or you could do a control spell of some form and simply order them to exhale.

Finally you could make the battlefield one that people don't want to breathe, with spells like Stinking Cloud, so they immediately begin holding their breath and therefore have much less of it when drowning time comes.


(If you ever feel particularly evil, you could always go for Flesh to Stone, dump 'em in a lake or ocean, then reverse it when they get down to a hideously deep depth. Either they get crushed by the pressure, drown, or die from severe decompression sickness...and as my submariner uncle explains it, none of those are things I'd ever wish on anyone)

EDIT: Oh God, the range of Stone to Flesh for a 6th-level caster starts at 210 feet...screw Wrack, might as well just go for giving people the bends!

LTwerewolf
2014-11-14, 01:16 AM
At level 11 it's really easy (http://dndtools.eu/spells/spell-compendium--86/drown--4422/).

Milodiah
2014-11-14, 01:17 AM
At level 11 it's really easy (http://dndtools.eu/spells/spell-compendium--86/drown--4422/).

...so not only do the rules allow the thing they don't allow, there's a spell for it?

LTwerewolf
2014-11-14, 01:21 AM
...so not only do the rules allow the thing they don't allow, there's a spell for it?

It's one of those specific beats general things. You can also do the opposite. (http://dndtools.eu/spells/spell-compendium--86/extract-water-elemental--4469/)