Speculation: Three Hinjos? (may contain nuts)

[AyuVince]

Okay, don't take this serious, but wouldn't it be cool if that Azure City high priest created three fake Hinjos to engage the Xy-klones in combat? Of course, one would necessarily be created from a template in the Book of Exalted Deeds.

[fwiffo]

Send in the clones...
There gotta be clones...
The clones... are here...

[Frosty]

What for? Redcloak and Xykon don't care about Jinho at all.

[AyuVince]

No, but three Hinjos could easily fend off those skeletal Xykon-wannabes Redcloak created.

[Drider]

maybe 3 Roys

[Studoku]

I always imagined Hinjo to be slightly more powerful than Roy. On the other hand, Roy has the starmetal sword.

[Threeshades]

Okay, don't take this serious, but wouldn't it be cool if that Azure City high priest created three fake Hinjos to engage the Xy-klones in combat?

Uhm, no.

In fact it would be utterly useless.

[Green Bean]

No, no, no. You should never split characters; they're always really, weak, except for the one who inevitably turns out to be evil (I mean, how are you going to pick the bad one out; they'll all have goatees!). If the Power Rangers have taught my anything, its that you only get more powerful if you fuse with another character. Go go Hinjoy and Haylan!

(:smallbiggrin:)

[Teh_Jakester]

I always imagined Hinjo to be slightly more powerful than Roy. On the other hand, Roy has the starmetal sword.

Let us stress this issue from the perspective of a man who has never played DND.

Hinjo is a Paladin; thus he has the Smite Evil.

Roy has a Starmetal Sword; thus he can harm undead.

So... I would say Hinjo has more power, but if you settle it down to raw strength, Roy wins.

[bluish_wolf]

It would be better to make three thrones so that Xykon doesn't know which one to destroy.

[ampcptlogic]

Go go Hinjoy and Haylan!

I think they're already working on a Haylan. :smallbiggrin:

[silvadel]

How about 200 Elans... Could be like the I Mudd star trek episode for Roy

[Green Bean]

Let us stress this issue from the perspective of a man who has never played DND.

Hinjo is a Paladin; thus he has the Smite Evil.

Roy has a Starmetal Sword; thus he can harm undead.

So... I would say Hinjo has more power, but if you settle it down to raw strength, Roy wins.

I don't really think Hinjo's even close to Roy. I mean Hinjo lost to fallen Miko, whereas Roy barely had to break a sweat to knock her halfway across the room.

[Deuce]

It would be better to make three thrones so that Xykon doesn't know which one to destroy.

Or you could make 3 Azure Cities, and then the armies would be about even!

Now let's see, for a spell to do that, it'd have to be . . . hmmmm . . . level - oh my. :smalleek: I think I just found the flaw in my clever little plan. :smallconfused:

[Threeshades]

I don't really think Hinjo's even close to Roy. I mean Hinjo lost to fallen Miko, whereas Roy barely had to break a sweat to knock her halfway across the room.

hinjo was pinned to the ground and miko was so focused on him that she didnt really see roy coming. Since she was already well treated by hinjos sword roy just had to finish what hinjo began.
So he didnt really have much to do there.

[Green Bean]

hinjo was pinned to the ground and miko was so focused on him that she didnt really see roy coming. Since she was already well treated by hinjos sword roy just had to finish what hinjo began.
So he didnt really have much to do there.

Ummm, Hinjo managed to hit Miko once. In the foot. Hinjo didn't begin much (especially when it was Roy who weakened her in the first place)

[Jayabalard]

I think Roy was pretty clearly cleaning her clock; she landed one lucky stunning blow, and Roy only needed to land one more power attack on her to put her out.

[Assassinfox]

And Hinjo's Smite Evil has limited uses per day, while Roy's sword doesn't.

[skinkatlarge]

I don't really think Hinjo's even close to Roy. I mean Hinjo lost to fallen Miko, whereas Roy barely had to break a sweat to knock her halfway across the room.Miko beat the whole OOTS in combat, including Roy. All we know is she's much better than either of them.

It would be better to make three thrones so that Xykon doesn't know which one to destroy.Xykon doesn't want to destroy either the rift or the gate. The gate is necessary to help him control the Snarl (which is why Dorukon's gate had that self-destruct thing, and why Xykon didn't stick around to make use of the now-open rift that the destruction of the gate left).

Remember, gate =/= rift. No one knows how to close or destroy the rifts without undoing the world. The gates were put there by the Order of the Crayon to seal the rifts. Xykon needs both a rift and a working gate, and considerable time undisturbed. A lot of people are forgetting this stuff.

[Merlin the Tuna]

Miko beat the whole OOTS in combat, including Roy. All we know is she's much better than either of them.That's all we saw until she fell, at which point she trounced Hinjo and did pretty poorly versus Roy.

[Demented]

Three Hinjos? Nahh.

Three Saangwaans? Oh yes!

Three Durkons? Bland, but TURN UNDEAD!!!

[Assassinfox]

Miko beat the whole OOTS in combat, including Roy. All we know is she's much better than either of them.

Roy was armed with a stick. He obviously wasn't operating at full power there.

Miko's only good for hacking up elderly people and weaponless melee fighters.

[M._A._Foxfire]

Meh, she did do a number on V, Belkar, and Haley as well... (Twice) And Elan, but said one-armed kazoo-playing bard wasn't posing much of a challenge.

And she killed Sam and her father, had Redcloak on the floor, snapped Sabine's neck, and, well, she wasn't number one paladin in Azure for nothing.

About Roy's sword - who knows? It may just have a set number of uses.

[Green Bean]

Meh, she did do a number on V, Belkar, and Haley as well... (Twice) And Elan, but said one-armed kazoo-playing bard wasn't posing much of a challenge.

And she killed Sam and her father, had Redcloak on the floor, snapped Sabine's neck, and, well, she wasn't number one paladin in Azure for nothing.

About Roy's sword - who knows? It may just have a set number of uses.

Yes, but the point is that if two people go up against the same person, and one does incredibly well while the other is almost killed, it's pretty much a given that the one who was winning was better.

[Studoku]

Hinjo has the paladin wolf.

[skinkatlarge]

That's all we saw until she fell, at which point she trounced Hinjo and did pretty poorly versus Roy.True, Hinjo didn't do too well against her even after she fell, and Roy certainly finished her off - but I've seen a wizard with a dagger finish off a dragon after other people knocked its HP down far enough first. Maybe Hinjo just "loosened the mayonnaise jar lid" for Roy.

I do think Roy is a better fighter than Hinjo, actually; my point is that we don't know how much better, or even for sure that Roy is better at all.

Edit: Come to think of it, Belkar pretty much beat her, before she fell - then chose not to finish her off. So, yeah, Roy probably is better than her, thus considerably better than Hinjo.

[AyuVince]

Before this deteriorates into a Roy vs Hinjo thread, let's go back on topic:

Whom should Azure City clone to stand a better chance against the siege?

Here are some suggestions.

:roy: is a tough fighter with four attacks per round, the Cleave feat and probably Whirlwind Attack, two of him could easily take out 10-20 hobbos in a turn.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a311/estelindis/hinjo.gif may be a lesser swordsman than Roy, but has this Mounted Combat thing going.

:haley: is a brilliant tactician and has Manyshot, but two girls on the same job? It can only lead to bickering :D

:belkar: Bad idea. Very bad idea.

:elan: *cough*

:vaarsuvius: Utter pwnage.

:durkon: Should work well, unless the hobgoblins start carrying trees.

[V Junior]

Oh for the love of... PUT THE CRACK PIPES DOWN, AND STEP AWAY FROM THE SECRET STORE OF IT.

[TheOtherMC]

I think they're already working on a Haylan. :smallbiggrin:

Bow Chika Bow Wow! :smallbiggrin:

[AyuVince]

A singing rogue/bard with a rapier and lots of ranged attack feats?

[TheOtherMC]

A singing rogue/bard with a rapier and lots of ranged attack feats?

(S)he robs you of your money....and your heart :smallbiggrin:

*SNEAK ATTACK SERANADE!*

[MinMax]

Before this deteriorates into a Roy vs Hinjo thread, let's go back on topic:

Whom should Azure City clone to stand a better chance against the siege?

Here are some suggestions.

:roy: is a tough fighter with four attacks per round, the Cleave feat and probably Whirlwind Attack, two of him could easily take out 10-20 hobbos in a turn.

Hey, Roy only has three attacks per turn. They haven't even become level 14s yet. Also, Roy has the Great Cleave feat. Don't you recall his Great Cleavage?!

Also, 10-20? In a turn? I think you fail to see how far Roy can move. Hey could take out 8, provided he were surrounded, take a 5-foot step, and eliminate 3 more. That's 11. He can take out, we'll say, 5-11 hob-gobbos a round.

[AyuVince]

Hey, Roy only has three attacks per turn. They haven't even become level 14s yet. Also, Roy has the Great Cleave feat. Don't you recall his Great Cleavage?!

Also, 10-20? In a turn? I think you fail to see how far Roy can move. Hey could take out 8, provided he were surrounded, take a 5-foot step, and eliminate 3 more. That's 11. He can take out, we'll say, 5-11 hob-gobbos a round.

Read closely: I said that two Roys could take out 10-20 hobbos a round. With your calculation that just one Roy could kill 5-11, 10-20 should be a good bet with two.

My money's on :vaarsuvius:, though. One V fills up zir spell slots with a more defensive set of spells (say transmutation and enchantment), the other buffs up on aggressive evocation magic, and off you go. Anyone want to calculate how many hobbos (1st level warrior, 9 hp, regular Ref saves) V could kill with a widened Fireball?