My DM hire a part time accountant for bookkeeping..

[With a box]

And I want to test her limit
Is there a bulid that has cool fluff but hard to manage bookkeeping resources?
Maybe I just keep play current one (the wizard+PRC with 380 spells in library)
I shouldn't harass poor accountant, should I?

[StoneCipher]

If it really is an accountant and what they are doing is solely bookkeeping, you won't be able to mess with them. It's easy to keep track of inventories when you're doing only that.

[Gnome Alone]

If your DM really hired an accountant (which, by the way: what?!) then it's probably not nice to create even more work for her just for its own sake.

[Flickerdart]

Forget the accountant, why is the DM managing your character?

[StoneCipher]

Forget the accountant, why is the DM managing your character?

Yes because that's the befuddling part here. I'm still stuck on "hired an accountant."

[With a box]

Forget the accountant, why is the DM managing your character?

because why we have to bookkeeping ourselves when there is someone hired to do that?

[Hamste]

Yes because that's the befuddling part here. I'm still stuck on "hired an accountant."

My guess is that a lot of different people enjoy D&D and some of those people can afford to hire an accountant for a game.


Also if you really want to befuddle her look up money laundering schemes only you don't benefit from it at all. Buy and sell things seemingly at random in random amounts often at a loss so they have to constantly update their documents or fall behind. I don't know why you would want to but that seems most likely to confuse them.

[Umbranar]

I...am....baffled...a hired accountant for D&D?
I play with friends and one of them is an accountant and another is just damn good with excel and tables...but to actually hire a guy to track your inventory and spells? Thats outright lazy...and a crazy sort of cool.

[Kurald Galain]

And I want to test her limit
Is there a bulid that has cool fluff but hard to manage bookkeeping resources?

Omnicaster.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=3945177&postcount=38

[With a box]

I can't wait to see her face when she first noticed she hired for a roleplay game.

[eggynack]

This is... very odd to say the least. I guess druids tend towards the upper limits of book keeping requirements. Lotsa monsters and monster abilities to keep track of, from wild shape, the animal companion, SNA, and various spell effects, along with the traditional demands of a full spell list. I figure an artificer would also be somewhat involved, and maybe in a more direct accounting sense than most.

But, seriously, what? Why? Yeah, the game can sometimes place demands on your time out of game, if you want to do things right with certain classes, but it's not all that hard to cut back on the requirements, and even the most involved classes don't have to consume your time. This is a very strange thing.

[Flickerdart]

because why we have to bookkeeping ourselves when there is someone hired to do that?
But your reaction (how do I mess with this person) seems to imply that you resent this?

[Psyren]

But your reaction (how do I mess with this person) seems to imply that you resent this?

I think it's less malice and more chaos for its own sake. CN rather than CE if you will.

Beyond that OP all I'll say is that I hope you're prepared to foot the bill when she increases her rates (as I certainly would.)

[Solaris]

Start a business in-game.

[TypoNinja]

Convince your DM to switch to battle tech.

Its combat is complex enough you need a quick reference sheet to play, and if you use a Mercenary based campaign, you will literally have contract negotiations, and a payroll to meet, along with tracking inventory (hope you packed enough ammo for the job!)

[atemu1234]

Start a business in-game.

The DMGII ones are fairly simple.

[Sith_Happens]

Playing an Artificer to its full potential can often become a literal exercise in accounting.

[icefractal]

Master of Many Forms is pretty damn prep heavy. Or if you're high enough level, just being a caster that uses Shapechange a lot.

A Wizard-based Shadowcraft Mage with the Spontaneous Divination ACF and Alacritous Cogitation has possibly the most **** to juggle in play, being capable of casting a giant number of spells simultaneously. See also: Rainbow Warsnake. However, that's more of a "good heuristic to choose between them" problem than an accounting one.

Mailman type builds can have some complicated action-economy accounting going on, as can Psionic gish types.

[Knaight]

I can't wait to see her face when she first noticed she hired for a roleplay game.

Honestly, this bit just makes it all seem really mean. The person has put the work in to become an actual accountant, they get hired for something which is apparently highly unspecified, and then it turns out to be a roleplaying game. It just looks like a prank, and a fairly insulting one at that.

[With a box]

Honestly, this bit just makes it all seem really mean. The person has put the work in to become an actual accountant, they get hired for something which is apparently highly unspecified, and then it turns out to be a roleplaying game. It just looks like a prank, and a fairly insulting one at that.

Yes. I also think this is ridiculous, and I need to sustain myself...
But what? Hire a person for a game? I'm sure just buy new autodice and books would be better..
I'd must gone mad when I heard this..

[AnonymousPepper]

I got two words for you: optimized artificer.

They are to D&D what EVE Online is to MMOs.

[Threadnaught]

Start a business in-game.

This is also what I would suggest, but go for a model that is guaranteed to make profit and has multiple sources of income and expenditure to keep track of. If done right she may make some confused comments about people enjoying what she calls work.
You have a Wizard? Build a Tippyverse style factory.

[incarnate236]

Using the pathfinder downtime rules start multiple renovations and for profit businesses in multiple cities. Also play a cerebremancer.

[Abd al-Azrad]

Honestly, this bit just makes it all seem really mean. The person has put the work in to become an actual accountant, they get hired for something which is apparently highly unspecified, and then it turns out to be a roleplaying game. It just looks like a prank, and a fairly insulting one at that.

You know, as a gamer accountant, I honestly wouldn't mind this sort of job. So long as I could get some idea of the story, I think it could be reasonably fun to take charge of the micromanagement of a world's economy. They say the devil is in the details, and when no one else wants to pay attention to the details, you can sneak through an awful lot of whatever you would like.

In terms of total versatility, what I think you want is a Mage of the Arcane Order (Complete Arcane). I used to think this was an underpowered class, but the Spellpool ability is utterly ridiculous for versatility; it's basically Anyspell: The Class Feature. Beyond that, I'd suggest the Leadership feat, and bringing on mostly wealth-producing specialists like artists and poison-crafters to build your personal economy at the expense of your accountant's sanity.

[Gnome Alone]

Question 42. You are a player in a Dungeons & Dragons campaign. The campaign's Dungeon Master announces that he is hiring an accountant to help manage the game. Please pick a reasonable explanation for why this is so.
a)The group has, like, thirty people in it, dudes
b)The DM is rich and bonkers
c)The DM is not rich and therefore more bonkers
d)The DM was just muttering to himself that he should hire an accountant to track the players' excessive array of spells and items

[RoboEmperor]

Minions! Max out your hd limit with 1hd skeletons all equipped with arrows! Keep track of how many arrows skeleton numbers 3, 7, and 40 has!

Or summons and their round durations.

[Knaight]

You know, as a gamer accountant, I honestly wouldn't mind this sort of job. So long as I could get some idea of the story, I think it could be reasonably fun to take charge of the micromanagement of a world's economy. They say the devil is in the details, and when no one else wants to pay attention to the details, you can sneak through an awful lot of whatever you would like.

There's no indication that the accountant has any interest in roleplaying games whatsoever, and there's the bigger issue of this apparently not having been specified upfront.

[With a box]

Question 42. You are a player in a Dungeons & Dragons campaign. The campaign's Dungeon Master announces that he is hiring an accountant to help manage the game. Please pick a reasonable explanation for why this is so.
a)The group has, like, thirty people in it, dudes
b)The DM is rich and bonkers
c)The DM is not rich and therefore more bonkers
d)The DM was just muttering to himself that he should hire an accountant to track the players' excessive array of spells and items

job in que : wait until 12/15 until I check this out

[JDL]

The best way to really screw with the DM is not with classes, prestiges or game mechanics, but simply by asking questions.

For example:

DM: "You arrive in the tavern of many dark corners.'"
Me: "I approach the barkeeper. I ask him how business is."
DM: "The barkeeper says business is bad, there's been trouble with some orcs raiding the local supply caravans."
Me: "I express my sympathy and say I might be able to help with his problem."
DM: "The barkeeper gratefully shakes your hand and gives you a piece of parchment with directions to the orc bandit camp."
Me: "I wave away the directions and pull out a bag of gold coins. I say I want to invest in his business. Of course I'd expect a full inventory of his current stock and a written ledger of profits and losses, but surely a business in trouble would welcome an injection of capital from a wealthy silent partner in exchange for a share in future profits."
DM: "The barkeeper shakes his head and declines your generous offer."
Me: "I (cast charm person/roll a massive diplomacy/point out that my friends and I could murder everyone in the entire tavern in about half a minute)."

Begin the business negotiations. Make sure you also get receipts, a full contract outlining your interests, make sure you have specified monthly business reports, and also full details on all tax payable and relevant local laws.

THEN go kill the orcs while the barkeeper sorts out the paperwork. You replace your spent gold with the loot you get, the DM gets the nightmare of the business contract, and you rinse and repeat with every new location you visit.