best 5 man party

[kaffalidjmah]

the best 5-man team you have played into. or maybe 4/6, but just one in which you have played, not one you want to create. i am sorry, everyone was right, the best 5-man party is 5 wizards (or wizard/druid/cleric/erudite/artificier), but that was not what i mean.

actually, we have played (the best team comp)

-psion fighter/warrior mind
-wizard/random prc (just for flavour)
-fighter with high dps and AC
-rogue/assasin/random other prc stealty
-a buffer/healer/high priest of pelor (is how we call the prc, is...well...radiant servant of pelor? complete divine, you will understand)

again, do your worst :smallsmile:

[Ruethgar]

The Five Druid Elders
The High Counsel of Five Wizards
The the Five Clerics of God

There, the best three 5-man parties.

[kaffalidjmah]

The Five Druid Elders
The High Counsel of Five Wizards
The the Five Clerics of God

There, the best three 5-man parties.

agreed, but

not everyone want to play as wizards
not everyone want to play as druid
not everyone want to play as cleric
not everyone want to play as tier 1 class

drop in some mixed tier, like tier 1/tier 2/tier3/tier4 classes as well

[Extra Anchovies]

Actually, Ruethgar, the strongest 5-man party is Cleric/Druid/Wizard/Erudite/Artificer.

If you want a mid-tier 5-man party:
Totemist (melee beatstick)
Warlock (melee/ranged support)
Druidic Avenger (UA) Deadly Hunter (UA) Druid (buffs/BFC)
Binder (utility/combat support)
Bard (utility and buffs, plus combat support)

[herrhauptmann]

drop in some mixed tier, like tier 1/tier 2/tier3/tier4 classes as well
How do you define "Best?"
If you want an even mix of abilities, you're going to be stuck with a "BMX Bandit and Angel Summoner" situation.

[Blackhawk748]

A Paladin, a Bard, a Ranger, a Warlock, and a Rogue. Youve got your blaster (Warlock) your Buffer (Bard) your healers (out of combat Paladin, Ranger, and Bard) your Skill monkies (Ranger, Bard, and Rogue) and your beatsticks (Ranger and Pally with Rogue support)

Honestly this party is great as there is nothing that one of them cant cover, though you may miss some of the other things full casters can do but the Bard can do most of it.

[Barbarian Horde]

1 artificer only paying 5% of total cost of magical items they create
2 blastifiers
1bufficier
Meleecier

With your powers combined.... I am captain artificer!
Every role can be played.
Want to do melee?
Want to buff?
Want to heal?
Want to cast aoe?
Want to cast pure damage?
Want to debuff?
Want to tanK?
Have access to all spells!
It can all be done. We can be tier 0 team.

[eggynack]

agreed, but

not everyone want to play as wizards
not everyone want to play as druid
not everyone want to play as cleric
not everyone want to play as tier 1 class

drop in some mixed tier, like tier 1/tier 2/tier3/tier4 classes as well
I do not understand. If you're going based off of what players want, then the best party is one designed by the players themselves. I mean, really, maybe the entire party is made up of people who like tier ones. Even if it's not, as herrhauptmann notes, a variety of tiers can lead to problems. Based off of the thread title and original post, the implication was that this is an optimization challenge of sorts. If it's not, then you should clarify what it is you're seeking.


Actually, Ruethgar, the strongest 5-man party is Cleric/Druid/Wizard/Erudite/Artificer.

Yeah, I think you really want some mix of tier 1's in there. Sure, a druid or cleric can kinda cover that wizarding ground of spell versatility, and a wizard can sorta beat face (and so on for erudite and artificer), but some specialization is good in this context.

[Demidos]

May I suggest Team Solar? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?188138-Team-Solars-(Archiving)) Hard to beat in terms of flavor or power. Disclaimer, may have 6-7 members instead of only 5, but still.

If you're looking for a sane-low level of optimization, blackhawk's suggestion is fairly accurate.

[JusticeZero]

agreed, but

not everyone want to play as wizards
not everyone want to play as druid
not everyone want to play as cleric
not everyone want to play as tier 1 class

drop in some mixed tier, like tier 1/tier 2/tier3/tier4 classes as well
That wasn't the question. If you want those things, you need to better define what you are operationalizing "Best" as.

[Vortenger]

agreed, but

not everyone want to play as wizards
not everyone want to play as druid
not everyone want to play as cleric
not everyone want to play as tier 1 class

drop in some mixed tier, like tier 1/tier 2/tier3/tier4 classes as well

You said best. The best 5 man party is going to be some combination of T1 classes. Perhaps you meant something other than that?

Otherwise: Pun-pun (x5).

edit: stalkered.

[kaffalidjmah]

ok, now i will editing the entry post, it wasn't correct

[OldTrees1]

Based on the example in the OP,

Barbarian
Rogue
Bard
Cleric
Wizard

[Uncle Pine]

The only party I've played into (excluding a couple of other parties that didn't end well, either blowing the universe up or being blown up):
- Paladin/Shiba Protector/Voce Warrior dragonborn Skyrim shout-out
- Psion/Gem something (PrC from a web enhancement) addicted to moonstone
- Swift Hunter
- The Wizard (actually a Thogaturge, me)
- Rogue/Swordsage awakened red monkey played as if it was my familiar, named Fireball III

[Sewercop]

ive played in?
for 3.5 it was

chameleon , fiend of possesion, mix mash of classes factotum illumian.
Druid with summoner side
Bard, dragonfire type , cant remember the prestige class
Marshal,shaman, aura type buffer.

Was an amazing group :)

[geekintheground]

well the stereotypical default party is fighter, rogue, cleric, wizard. so i think warblade, factotum, cleric, wizard, bard is pretty good

[Uncle Pine]

well the stereotypical default party is fighter, rogue, cleric, wizard. so i think warblade, factotum, cleric, wizard, bard is pretty good

You misspelled Psion in the second sentence. :smallwink:

[Petrocorus]

Human Warlock / Crusader abusing White Raven and shooting his red Eldritch Blast through the eyes.
Feral Human Ranger / Warblade emphasing Tiger Claws to use with his natural claws, he's older than he looks.
Aasimar Favoured Soul with custom access to weather and air spell from the Druid spell list and restricted access to earth and fire spell. She's black skinned, blue eyed, white haired.
Kalashtar Telepath / Kineticist, she's got fiery red hairs.
Tiefling Rogue / Int-based spontaneous arcane caster specialising in teleportation and stealth, he's blue skinned and has a prehensile tail.


And of course, they kinda look like this: http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag304/Petrocorus/dossiers_illustre_1307563573_zpsa0e557fa.jpg

[Psyren]

All-manifester party that summons Captain Planet uses metaconcert on the BBEG.

[Vortenger]

All-manifester party that summons Captain Planet uses metaconcert on the BBEG.

That...is awesome. I usually just look at the blank stares of my friends when I try and explain that power. Well done.

[wookietek]

We're nowhere near optimized, but right now I'm having a lot of fun in a group that consist of:

Rogue/Ranger-two weapon flanker
Wizard-Summoning type guy
Druid-At this point he's almost always a bear
Paladin-mounted ranged
Monk- he's actually been effective, and fun
Ranger

We've been mostly dealing with demons and devils. It's been a challenge, but we've come up with some neat tricks to keep us all alive... so far. The hardest part has been not getting a lot of down time for the spell casters to reboot.

[Psyren]

That...is awesome. I usually just look at the blank stares of my friends when I try and explain that power. Well done.

There are lots of configurations that would work, but I would go for something like:

- Tactician or Nomad/Telepath Psion (controller/utility/lore)
- Student/Artificer Wilder (blaster/face)
- Cryptic (skillmonkey/alt. face)
- Gifted Blade Soulknife (beatstick 1)
- Psywar/War Mind (beatstick 2)

[Togo]

I had a lot of fun with:

Monk+wizard dip
Sorceror
Cleric
Druid/master of many forms
Barbarian

It worked well, everyone got to contribute, went from 1st to 15th level of a period of about 15 years.

[LoyalPaladin]

I am currently having a blast with our party.
-Cleric
-Cleric/Bone Knight
-Paladin/Fist of Raziel
-Warlock
-Sword Sage

Occasionally we have another person at our sessions playing a Rogue/Duskblade/Arcane Trickster.

[sideswipe]

i think the "best" party is ....

1. archivist who knows people like runescared berserker, adept, healer, and as many other divine classed characters with access to lower level spells as possible....

heal at level 9? thank you very much my adept friend! oh and polymorph? and lightning bolt all as divine? without stupid cheese?! wow my best friend!

2. wizard.... because wizard....

3. warblade because its my favourite TOB.... though i'm starting to prefer swordsage.

4. everyone needs a truenamer and his intelligent item familiar friend for a comedic splash. (plus i love truenamers and they make great knowledge characters. and add knowledge devotion and it makes a half decent gish)

5. factotum my second favourite class, everyone knows how good they are.

(PRC's not included as that would just make things way to complex for a thread like this.)

[Milodiah]

Everybody knows the best 5 man party is an Aristocrat and 4 Experts, respectively owning and operating the arsenal/armory, the magical library or temple, the tavern, and the magic item store. Aristocrat hands off Herculean tasks to those pesky adventurer parties (payment on completion as per usual), then directs them to his buddies in on the scam. With the belief that the quest reward they'll get will far outweigh the cost of new gear, they tool up at totally gouging rates, then scamper off into the dungeon.

Little did they know that the Aristocrat deliberately gives them quests that are easily 10 levels higher than they should be handling...total party kill whenever possible.

Now the adventurer party is dead, will not be claiming its reward, have spent almost all their gold in your buddies' shops, and have given you a plot hook to throw at the next adventurer party.

"The brave heroes I sent in last week haven't returned! You must go and save them, but not before gearing up for the challenges ahead..."

[Deox]

All kobold party.

Good mix of ToB, Bard, Effigy Master and Artificer. Used mixtures of swarm fighting and aid another.


http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/206466-v1.jpg


Also trying to convince some people to do an all bard group:
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/0/6/4/106461_photo.jpg?1215

[atemu1234]

All-manifester party that summons Captain Planet uses metaconcert on the BBEG.

Reminds me of when my group all played Savage Bard // Barbarians and statted our Bardic Music as Amon Amarth.

[MyrPsychologist]

All kobold party.

Good mix of ToB, Bard, Effigy Master and Artificer. Used mixtures of swarm fighting and aid another.


http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/206466-v1.jpg


Also trying to convince some people to do an all bard group:
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/0/6/4/106461_photo.jpg?1215

All Kobolds, all bards.

You're an entire band of dragonwrought kobolds known only as Dragon Force. Using nothing but the power of metal to vanquish monsters. But someone has to play theme music during each battle sequence.

[dascarletm]

The best party I have had is actually one I do on Friday nights currently. (Pathfinder)

Sylph Magus(Kensai): Myself
Pleasure-Devil Bard: Wife
Pixie Ranger(Harrier): Friend
Half-Elf Druid: Other Friend
Human Shaman: DMPC

The best part is the inter-party relationships. It'd beyond explanation. However in game we have decent overlap between us that we can get creative with our strategies.

I find it is best when everyone has a narrowed focus they are the best at, but in the general area there is significant over-lap. It allows everyone to be involved.

[Deox]

All Kobolds, all bards.

You're an entire band of dragonwrought kobolds known only as Dragon Force. Using nothing but the power of metal to vanquish monsters. But someone has to play theme music during each battle sequence.

Dragonwrought Kobold bards called Dragon Force. I approve.

[Feint's End]

There are lots of configurations that would work, but I would go for something like:

- Tactician or Nomad/Telepath Psion (controller/utility/lore)
- Student/Artificer Wilder (blaster/face)
- Cryptic (skillmonkey/alt. face)
- Gifted Blade Soulknife (beatstick 1)
- Psywar/War Mind (beatstick 2)

Meh I'd rather have the following setup

-Generalist or Erudite Psion (for general goodness including blasting)
-Vitalist (healer / buffer)
-Cryptic (skillmonkey + utility and ranged support)
-psychic warrior + potentially warmind (beatstick goodness)
-maybe something ranged or a tactician with melee capabilities