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Smorgonoffz
2014-12-18, 09:53 AM
In the campaign i'm currently playing, my character died.
Since all the roles are covered(rogue,druid,ur-lock,wizard,paladin) , i decided to do a jack of all trades: The binder

Race: Human
Class: Binder

Feats:

1)Ignore special requirements
1b) Expel vestige
1f)Fey Heritage
3)weapon focus (heavy mace)
4)Improved Binding(Bonus feat from class)
6)Fey Presence
9)Fey Legacy
12) Improved initiative
15)
18)

These are the bare bones of the build, i'm inclined to take two different directions with this build:

1) Full binder(Rp and fun)
2) Binder/Koss(more optimized, since from 8th level i'll spec into koss with zceryll)

which talents do you suggest choose for these builds, i'm thinking of taking weapon focus, improved initiative, or the fey legacy talents( just for the fun of it)..

Also with standard wbl for a 11/12th level char (49k i think)

I was thinking of buying the tooth that gives +4 to cha
the lens that gives +1 to the vestige cd
The shour that give +2 cd to charisma based checks

what weapons and armor combo do you suggest would work? ye olde chain spike?

Extra Anchovies
2014-12-18, 09:56 AM
1. Remove Truename Training. It's... it's so not worth it.

Also, Zceryll doesn't become available until 15th level, so you'd have to go Binder 15/KotSS 5.

Psyren
2014-12-18, 09:58 AM
1. Remove Truename Training. It's... it's so not worth it.

Also, Zceryll doesn't become available until 15th level, so you'd have to go Binder 15/KotSS 5.

Zceryll is a 6th-level vestige actually - you get her at 12 (10 with Improved Binding.)

atemu1234
2014-12-18, 10:05 AM
Zceryll is a 6th-level vestige actually - you get her at 12 (10 with Improved Binding.)

FYI, Improved Binding is a good feat to replace that slot opened from Truename Training.

Crake
2014-12-18, 10:18 AM
shameless plug for my new and improved vestige list in my signature

avr
2014-12-18, 11:14 AM
If you're playing a jack-of-all-trades you really want the Ignore Special Requirements feat. You otherwise won't have the skill points to bind some vestiges (base 2+int and no other reason to boost int).

Also, Expel Vestige so you have some ability to change plans during the day.

Smorgonoffz
2014-12-18, 11:35 AM
Changed idea about the kind of pc i want XD