unseenmage
2014-12-23, 03:15 PM
Assuming that Shrink Item and similar spells function on Shapesand (Sa) treating the listed purchasable volume as a single object; How many doses of Shapesand affected by Shrink Item can one fit in the following extradimensional containers?
The ultimate goal is to list every Extradimensional storage device alongside how much Shapesand it can hold including the price of both.
How much does one jug of Shrink Item-ed Shapesand cost? Or is that the wrong method to calculate this? I wonder if instead a given volume of Shapesand couldn't all be Shrink Item-ed at once.
For my purposes a single dose of Shapesand cannot become Alchemical items, Special Materials, Artifacts (dumbest exploit evar), or any object that weighs more than the jug of Shapesand weighs. Heavier objects are possible, they just require that more jugs of Shapesand be combined. This idea is not RAW, though I might contend that it is RAI.
For clarity I am discussing Shapesand in its natural unshaped form. That each dose could become any listed mundane item smaller and lighter than itself is being ignored for the purpose of this thread. Though that items without listed weights bottom out at 1/10th lb. IIRC could potentially be used for these calculations. We'd just need to know the listed mundane item that occupies the least amount of volume in all of D&D the 3rd.
I was also curious how much volume of Shapesand, both Shrink Item-ed and not, any given character can own using the purchase limit of 1/4 their WBL as suggested in the DMG page 199.
For reference one Jug of Shapesand costs 100gp and weighs 12 lbs.
Would love to chart the average Wis by level so I could list the average amount of shapable Shapesand by level to compare to the poundage.
While I'm wishing for impossible things it sure would be nice to know what the heaviest objects are we can shape by level too.
Neither of these are projects I intend to undertake at the moment though. :smallsmile:
{table=head] Level | 1/4 WBL | Jugs of Shapesand | Max Pounds
1st | ???gp | ??? jugs | ??? cu. ft. | ??? lbs.
2nd | 225gp | 2 jugs | 24 lbs.
3rd | 675gp | 6 jugs | 72 lbs.
4th | 1,350gp | 13 jugs | 156 lbs.
5th | 2,250gp | 22 jugs | 264 lbs.
6th | 3,250gp | 32 jugs | 384 lbs.
7th | 4,750gp | 47 jugs | 564 lbs.
8th | 6,750gp | 67 jugs | 804 lbs.
9th | 9,000gp | 90 jugs | 1,080 lbs.
10th | 12,250gp | 122 jugs | 1,464 lbs.
11th | 16,500gp | 165 jugs | 1,980 lbs.
12th | 22,000gp | 220 jugs | 2,640 lbs.
13th | 27,500gp | 275 jugs | 3,300 lbs.
14th | 37,500gp | 375 jugs | 4,500 lbs.
15th | 50,000gp | 500 jugs | 6,000 lbs.
16th | 65,000gp | 650 jugs | 7,800 lbs.
17th | 85,000gp | 850 jugs | 10,200 lbs.
18th | 110,000gp | 1,100 jugs | 13,200 lbs.
19th | 145,000gp | 1,450 jugs | 17,400 lbs.
20th | 190,000gp | 1,900 jugs | 22,800 lbs.
21st | ???gp | ??? jugs | ??? lbs.
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The ultimate goal is to list every Extradimensional storage device alongside how much Shapesand it can hold including the price of both.
How much does one jug of Shrink Item-ed Shapesand cost? Or is that the wrong method to calculate this? I wonder if instead a given volume of Shapesand couldn't all be Shrink Item-ed at once.
For my purposes a single dose of Shapesand cannot become Alchemical items, Special Materials, Artifacts (dumbest exploit evar), or any object that weighs more than the jug of Shapesand weighs. Heavier objects are possible, they just require that more jugs of Shapesand be combined. This idea is not RAW, though I might contend that it is RAI.
For clarity I am discussing Shapesand in its natural unshaped form. That each dose could become any listed mundane item smaller and lighter than itself is being ignored for the purpose of this thread. Though that items without listed weights bottom out at 1/10th lb. IIRC could potentially be used for these calculations. We'd just need to know the listed mundane item that occupies the least amount of volume in all of D&D the 3rd.
I was also curious how much volume of Shapesand, both Shrink Item-ed and not, any given character can own using the purchase limit of 1/4 their WBL as suggested in the DMG page 199.
For reference one Jug of Shapesand costs 100gp and weighs 12 lbs.
Would love to chart the average Wis by level so I could list the average amount of shapable Shapesand by level to compare to the poundage.
While I'm wishing for impossible things it sure would be nice to know what the heaviest objects are we can shape by level too.
Neither of these are projects I intend to undertake at the moment though. :smallsmile:
{table=head] Level | 1/4 WBL | Jugs of Shapesand | Max Pounds
1st | ???gp | ??? jugs | ??? cu. ft. | ??? lbs.
2nd | 225gp | 2 jugs | 24 lbs.
3rd | 675gp | 6 jugs | 72 lbs.
4th | 1,350gp | 13 jugs | 156 lbs.
5th | 2,250gp | 22 jugs | 264 lbs.
6th | 3,250gp | 32 jugs | 384 lbs.
7th | 4,750gp | 47 jugs | 564 lbs.
8th | 6,750gp | 67 jugs | 804 lbs.
9th | 9,000gp | 90 jugs | 1,080 lbs.
10th | 12,250gp | 122 jugs | 1,464 lbs.
11th | 16,500gp | 165 jugs | 1,980 lbs.
12th | 22,000gp | 220 jugs | 2,640 lbs.
13th | 27,500gp | 275 jugs | 3,300 lbs.
14th | 37,500gp | 375 jugs | 4,500 lbs.
15th | 50,000gp | 500 jugs | 6,000 lbs.
16th | 65,000gp | 650 jugs | 7,800 lbs.
17th | 85,000gp | 850 jugs | 10,200 lbs.
18th | 110,000gp | 1,100 jugs | 13,200 lbs.
19th | 145,000gp | 1,450 jugs | 17,400 lbs.
20th | 190,000gp | 1,900 jugs | 22,800 lbs.
21st | ???gp | ??? jugs | ??? lbs.
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