PRCs for a dragon born bard2/crusader4.

[gawwy]

Hey all im playing in a fairly low op campain as a bard2/Crusader4. My feat selection went extra music song of the white raven song of the heart. I will probably take dragon fire insperation at 9th.

I only recently became dragon born and am looking to add some more dragon flavor to my build.

Im currently running the role of tank/support using bardic music and iron guards glare and a bit of sheild counter to keep my freinds safe. Any ideas for further progression.

I know crusader would be good but im looking for flavor.
Thanks in advance.

[Extra Anchovies]

Jade Phoenix Mage, reworked as a dragon-themed PrC?

[gawwy]

Hmm it definatly has some promis there i could take 2 more bard to get in and get the skills there and then go in. Should probably pick up the feat that makes casting in medium armour a thing seems i use fullplate.

Would that be worth it or should i just swap to a lighter armour?

[Extra Anchovies]

Hmm it definatly has some promis there i could take 2 more bard to get in and get the skills there and then go in. Should probably pick up the feat that makes casting in medium armour a thing seems i use fullplate.

Would that be worth it or should i just swap to a lighter armour?

Take Battle Caster once, then wear Mithral full plate.

[malonkey1]

TBH, I was surprised they didn't ever make a White Raven-based Bard/Initiator PrC. I feel like it's something obvious that just never got included.

[Darrin]

Any ideas for further progression.


Your strongest option is probably Bard 4/Crusader 16 (AKA Bardsader) with Dragonfire Inspiration, optimizing Inspire Courage so everyone in the party gets Xd6 bonus damage on all their attacks.

As for Jade Phoenix Mage... Bard 4/Crusader 2/JPM 1/Abjurant Champion 3/Sublime Chord 1/JPM +9 gets 9th level spells, but it looks like that boat has already sailed.

There is one PrC involve bards singing about dragons: Dragonsong Lyrist (Draconomicon). Five-level PrC, 2/5 casting, five different songs... kind of meh.

[gawwy]

I keep seeing bard 4 thrown around as an entry to bardsader. Why 4 and not just 2 for il?

Also the group is so low op ive actively been banned from playing full casters cause i always break stuff when i do. I feel using sublime chord to gwt 9ths anyway would probably go against the spirit of that. The bard sublime chord that gets 5ths could be fun tho.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Bard 4/6 get recommended due to the extra spell levels. Inspire Competence comes online at 3rd, but you still get a nice bump in saves and BAB at 4th. Similarly, Bard 6 bumps up all saves, gives you suggestion (or a bonus feat with the ECS rules, which could be Dragonfire Inspiration). Mostly, the fact that you lost a point of BAB from Bard 1 means it doesn't hurt to go another 3 levels deep.

EDIT: Dragonfire Inspiration also requires Inspire Competence, so you need at least 3 levels to get that.

[Rebel7284]

If your DM is OK with early entry despite the game being low OP, you can qualify for Sublime Chord with Versatile Spellcaster and Heighten Spell feats.

Something like Bard 2/Crusader 4/Bard +3/Jade Phoenix Mage 1/Sublime Chord 1/JPM +9

You end up being good at fighting and spellcasting and still inspire your allies pretty well.