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mobozthegreat
2015-02-12, 01:27 AM
The DM is allowing us to take a +3 level adjustment and I want charisma and bonus feats. Possibly some bonus ac or something blood related as I am a bloodmage

Forrestfire
2015-02-12, 02:01 AM
Probably the best pile of LA you could get for this example is a Half-Nymph White Dragonspawn Jungle Kobold (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/environmentalRacialVariants.htm). No bonus feats, and not strictly the highest Cha you could get, but White Dragonspawn is an amazing pile of goodies, including +1 Sorcerer level. Kobolds also have the ability to undergo the Greater Draconic Rite of Passage (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a), netting you another +1 Sorcerer level for all purposes.

Overall, this race combination gets:

-2 Str, +4 Dex, +2 Wis, +4 Cha
Monstrous Humanoid (Cold) type
Small size, with Slight Build
30ft land speed, 60 (average) fly speed
Claw/Claw/Bite natural weapons
+7 natural armor
Awesome Beauty (Su) - Shakens any humanoids who fail the save when you turn it on and they look at you
Crappy 2d4 Cold breath weapon
Crappy death throes (downside, makes you hard to raise)
+1 effective Sorcerer level
Ability to spend a feat and some permanent HP loss to get another +1 effective Sorcerer level


Overall, it's the Sorcerer casting increases that are the main bonus here. At level 6, you've unlocked 4th-level spells, and cast at CL 8. Pretty awesome.

atemu1234
2015-02-12, 06:38 AM
Probably the best pile of LA you could get for this example is a Half-Nymph White Dragonspawn Jungle Kobold (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/environmentalRacialVariants.htm). No bonus feats, and not strictly the highest Cha you could get, but White Dragonspawn is an amazing pile of goodies, including +1 Sorcerer level. Kobolds also have the ability to undergo the Greater Draconic Rite of Passage (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a), netting you another +1 Sorcerer level for all purposes.

Overall, this race combination gets:

-2 Str, +4 Dex, +2 Wis, +4 Cha
Monstrous Humanoid (Cold) type
Small size, with Slight Build
30ft land speed, 60 (average) fly speed
Claw/Claw/Bite natural weapons
+7 natural armor
Awesome Beauty (Su) - Shakens any humanoids who fail the save when you turn it on and they look at you
Crappy 2d4 Cold breath weapon
Crappy death throes (downside, makes you hard to raise)
+1 effective Sorcerer level
Ability to spend a feat and some permanent HP loss to get another +1 effective Sorcerer level


Overall, it's the Sorcerer casting increases that are the main bonus here. At level 6, you've unlocked 4th-level spells, and cast at CL 8. Pretty awesome.

Yep, there's very little I can add to this. You only lose one caster level by level 20!

HammeredWharf
2015-02-12, 07:05 AM
The Unseelie Fey template from Dragon Compendium is also very powerful and can get a bit ridiculous on a Cha-focused character. It changes your type to fey, but I think you're stilll a kobold and can take the Rites of Passage.

Bronk
2015-02-12, 07:19 AM
I'd go for the regular half-fey template instead of half nymph myself. You don't get 'blinding beauty', but you do get flight and a slew of SLAs.

defiantdan
2015-02-12, 09:05 AM
toss in Magic-blooded.

Forrestfire
2015-02-12, 09:38 AM
I'd go for the regular half-fey template instead of half nymph myself. You don't get 'blinding beauty', but you do get flight and a slew of SLAs.

Half-Fey invalidates White Dragonspawn, sadly, since it's acquired and can only go on Humanoids and Monstrous Humanoids.

Bronk
2015-02-12, 10:04 AM
Half-Fey invalidates White Dragonspawn, sadly, since it's acquired and can only go on Humanoids and Monstrous Humanoids.

Ah, I didn't notice that half-nymph only granted fey bloodline. Nifty! Shame about losing the SLA's though.

mobozthegreat
2015-02-13, 06:50 AM
Probably the best pile of LA you could get for this example is a Half-Nymph White Dragonspawn Jungle Kobold (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/environmentalRacialVariants.htm). No bonus feats, and not strictly the highest Cha you could get, but White Dragonspawn is an amazing pile of goodies, including +1 Sorcerer level. Kobolds also have the ability to undergo the Greater Draconic Rite of Passage (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a), netting you another +1 Sorcerer level for all purposes.

Overall, this race combination gets:

-2 Str, +4 Dex, +2 Wis, +4 Cha
Monstrous Humanoid (Cold) type
Small size, with Slight Build
30ft land speed, 60 (average) fly speed
Claw/Claw/Bite natural weapons
+7 natural armor
Awesome Beauty (Su) - Shakens any humanoids who fail the save when you turn it on and they look at you
Crappy 2d4 Cold breath weapon
Crappy death throes (downside, makes you hard to raise)
+1 effective Sorcerer level
Ability to spend a feat and some permanent HP loss to get another +1 effective Sorcerer level


Overall, it's the Sorcerer casting increases that are the main bonus here. At level 6, you've unlocked 4th-level spells, and cast at CL 8. Pretty awesome.

This is really ****ing cool. Thanks a lot!!

defiantdan
2015-02-13, 07:16 AM
if you're allowed 3.0 material you can add Dhampir from denizens of Dread

Biffoniacus_Furiou
2015-02-13, 09:22 AM
You can gain this Half-Fey (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040213a) after White Dragonspawn and it works fine.

Rebel7284
2015-02-13, 09:28 AM
White Dragonspawn does require you to be permanently dominated by a white dragon though. May or may not be worth it.

As far as charisma templates that add bonus feats, consider this:
Fire Souled in DR314 p23 +3 LA
+4 Charisma
LEADERSHIP as a bonus feat.

That's right, why play a single sorcerer when you can play a cabal of sorcerers. :D
You also get some other cute abilities, like immunity to daze which is nice for Celerity spam.

ShurikVch
2015-02-13, 10:44 AM
Radiant Creature (Dragon #321) is LA +3
Becomes an ‘Outsider (native, augmented xxx)’
Alignment is one step closer to Chaotic
+4 Dex, +6 Cha
+4 bonus on Spot checks
–8 penalty on Hide checks
Fast Healing 2 (as long as there is light)
Creatures within 30’ that look at the Radiant creature are Dazzled for 1d6 rounds (WillNeg, DC is Charisma-based).
Immune to becoming Blind, Dazed, Dazzled, & Stunned.
Also, DR /magic and bunch of SLAs

AnonymousPepper
2015-02-13, 01:27 PM
It's semi-questionable RAW - depends on the outcome of the age-old argument about whether Dragonwrought Kobolds are true dragons or not - and some of the smelliest limburger cheese imaginable, but if you're stacking Half-Dragonspawn and the Greater DRoP, get Dragonwrought and see if you can't also get the Loredrake sovereign archetype from Dragons of Eberron. Because, strung together with everything else, that becomes a whopping +4 sorcerer levels. Boom.

ZamielVanWeber
2015-02-13, 05:29 PM
If you take a very literal reading about the Sovereign Archetypes they never specify true dragon, just clerical casting on your sorcerer levels. It was up to the DM if ones without clerical casting could take them.