Is this the right stats for this weapon?

[Tonden Ockay]

I was looking at Zerka (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Zerka_(5e_Equipment))


Weapon----------Cost---------Damage------------Weight--------Properties
Zerka-------------10 sp--------1d8 Piercing-----------3 lb.----------Finesse, Thrown(range 80/320), Special*

Is this the correct stats on this?

If so why would anyone use a normal spear

[DragonSinged]

You're aware that's someone's homebrew, right?

[JFahy]

Seems like someone was way too generous building that thing. If it's
available in a campaign world, of course people would be beating down
the door to get one. :smalltongue:

[Tonden Ockay]

Yes I just don't know what all weapons have came out over the years from 3.0, 3.5, Pathfinder, 4e, and now with 5e. I have only played 2e with mostly the core books.

I have been thinking a lot about a DEX Fighter and would love to use a Spear/Shield combo. I just wasn't sure if there was a spear that could be used as Finesse, Thrown. In 2e we never played a DEX Fighter with finesse weapons. So this kind of fighter is new to my group. We are switching to 5e.

[Tonden Ockay]

Seems like someone was way too generous building that thing. If it's
available in a campaign world, of course people would be beating down
the door to get one. :smalltongue:

That is what I was thinking as well. Normally there isn't a spear that can be used as Finesse and Thrown is there?

[JFahy]

That is what I was thinking as well. Normally there isn't a spear that can be used as Finesse and Thrown is there?

I think the rule of thumb they used was that a finesse weapon shall do d6
or less damage - and off the top of my head the only thing that's finesse
and also throwable is a dagger, which pays for it by having the weaker damage
die.

Also, I'm not sure there's anything sturdy/substantial enough to be used as a
melee weapon that I could also throw 320 feet. :smallwink:

[asorel]

I think the rule of thumb they used was that a finesse weapon shall do d6
or less damage - and off the top of my head the only thing that's finesse
and also throwable is a dagger, which pays for it by having the weaker damage
die.

Also, I'm not sure there's anything sturdy/substantial enough to be used as a
melee weapon that I could also throw 320 feet. :smallwink:

Rapiers do d8 damage, and are Finesse weapons.

[JFahy]

Rapiers do d8 damage, and are Finesse weapons.

Crap. Am I thinking of Light weapons?

[asorel]

Crap. Am I thinking of Light weapons?

Possibly, I'm AFB at the moment. If you want a real formulaic breakdown of weapon damage, you should check out this thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?378583-Weapon-Damage-Logic-How-to-Homebrew-and-Why-Some-Weapons-are-Trap-Options%22):

[Chadamantium]

So considering that the world record from javelin throwing is around 340'. this is stupidly over the top.

[RedMage125]

Let's also note that the first range increment is 80', which is FOUR TIMES that of most thrown weapons in the PHB.

The Fighter and Rogue in the party I DM for often resort to thrown weapons. Range limit on thrown weapons is one of the factors that comes into play a LOT.

This thing is stupid broken.

[calebrus]

Crap. Am I thinking of Light weapons?

Light weapons are d6 or less. Finesse weapons are also d6 or less, with the sole exception of the rapier (which basically exists just so that rogues have a d8 weapon to sneak attack with, and you'll notice it is not also light, which is the balance for it as it can't be used to dual wield unless you have a feat).

[Envyus]

I was looking at Zerka (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Zerka_(5e_Equipment))


Weapon----------Cost---------Damage------------Weight--------Properties
Zerka-------------10 sp--------1d8 Piercing-----------3 lb.----------Finesse, Thrown(range 80/320), Special*

Is this the correct stats on this?

If so why would anyone use a normal spear

Well it's homebrew and not a real weapon so yes the stats are right,

[RedMage125]

Light weapons are d6 or less. Finesse weapons are also d6 or less, with the sole exception of the rapier (which basically exists just so that rogues have a d8 weapon to sneak attack with, and you'll notice it is not also light, which is the balance for it as it can't be used to dual wield unless you have a feat).

I currently have a Rogue in the game I DM dual-wielding rapiers.

...as ridiculous as that would look.

[MeeposFire]

That is what I was thinking as well. Normally there isn't a spear that can be used as Finesse and Thrown is there?

Well the normal spear can work but only if you take a level of monk. Technically not finesse but essentially the same thing (unless you are a rogue then it matters but since the question concerns a fighter not a problem).

[calebrus]

Well the normal spear can work but only if you take a level of monk. Technically not finesse but essentially the same thing (unless you are a rogue then it matters but since the question concerns a fighter not a problem).

Doesn't work, since the sentence you edited out right before the one you quoted states spear/shield combo.
Shield means no martial arts. No martial arts means he can't use dex, which leaves that spear as a str weapon, even if he has a monk level.

[MeeposFire]

Doesn't work, since the sentence you edited out right before the one you quoted states spear/shield combo.
Shield means no martial arts. No martial arts means he can't use dex, which leaves that spear as a str weapon, even if he has a monk level.

Ah yes I forgot he wanted to use a shield.

[DragonSinged]

I currently have a Rogue in the game I DM dual-wielding rapiers.

...as ridiculous as that would look.

This is not the first time I have seen someone on these forums say that dual wielding rapiers would look ridiculous, and I don't understand where this is coming from. Dual wielding rapiers is called fighting "case", by the way, as in "a case of rapiers", and it is a historical fighting style which I happen to have training in.
http://moondragon.info/mediawiki/images/1/12/Case_of_Rapiers.PNG