Lekgolo137
2015-02-24, 01:07 PM
Hey guys, I have doubts about the behavior of warlock invocations in certain contexts. These scenarios will very likely come up during a game I'm DMing as one of my players (a lvl 16 warlock) likes to push the limits.
I tried asking this in the simple RAW thread but answers obtained were not enough.
The first two questions are related to the Eldritch Glaive invocation.
1st- If you use the Eldritch Glaive invocation while under the effect of a Haste spell, can you make one extra attack with the glaive?
I ask this since the invocation specifies that you can make as many attacks as your base attack bonus allows as a full-round action (essentially, a full attack), and the haste spell specifies that you make one extra attack when making a full attack action, so I'm not completly sure about the RAW answer (I guess RAW no, but RAI yes).
2nd- If you maximize (through the feat) your Eldritch Blast while using Eldritch Glaive, all the attacks you make that round are maximized (including AoOs)? Would the residual damage from vitriolic blast be maximized?
There is no rule that I can find to forbid it, but it seems a bit overpowered, I mean, by level 15 you could do way more than 200 damage per turn (not counting AoOs), for three turns...
3rd- If you hit a creature inmune to acid with a Vitriolic Blast would it still take damage (though it would be unnamed damage, not acid) ?
I ask this since there there is this rule that is often overlooked: "If a warlock targets a creature with an eldritch essence blast that has immunity to the invocation’s effect, it still takes the damage from the blast normally (provided it isn’t also immune to the eldritch blast)."
4th- If the answer to the previous question is yes, would you then be entitled to a caster level check to overcome the creature's spell resistance (since you are no longer effectively using the vitriolic blast) ?
I'm not sure if only the acid damage is gone but you still ignore the spell resistance, or everything is gone and you cast a raw eldritch blast, or since the creature isn't inmune to the part of the effect that ignores the spell resistance the rule I quoted before won't apply, making the creature inmune to the vitriolic blast.
5th- Last question, I promise, if a creature is inmune to all spell-like abilities from extraplanar creatures, and our warlock encounters this creature at a plane other than the material (thus having the extraplanar subtype), would the creature be inmune to any invocation the warlock can cast?
Thank you very much in advance for any answer, keep in mind that English isn't my primary language, so I apologize for any mistake.
I tried asking this in the simple RAW thread but answers obtained were not enough.
The first two questions are related to the Eldritch Glaive invocation.
1st- If you use the Eldritch Glaive invocation while under the effect of a Haste spell, can you make one extra attack with the glaive?
I ask this since the invocation specifies that you can make as many attacks as your base attack bonus allows as a full-round action (essentially, a full attack), and the haste spell specifies that you make one extra attack when making a full attack action, so I'm not completly sure about the RAW answer (I guess RAW no, but RAI yes).
2nd- If you maximize (through the feat) your Eldritch Blast while using Eldritch Glaive, all the attacks you make that round are maximized (including AoOs)? Would the residual damage from vitriolic blast be maximized?
There is no rule that I can find to forbid it, but it seems a bit overpowered, I mean, by level 15 you could do way more than 200 damage per turn (not counting AoOs), for three turns...
3rd- If you hit a creature inmune to acid with a Vitriolic Blast would it still take damage (though it would be unnamed damage, not acid) ?
I ask this since there there is this rule that is often overlooked: "If a warlock targets a creature with an eldritch essence blast that has immunity to the invocation’s effect, it still takes the damage from the blast normally (provided it isn’t also immune to the eldritch blast)."
4th- If the answer to the previous question is yes, would you then be entitled to a caster level check to overcome the creature's spell resistance (since you are no longer effectively using the vitriolic blast) ?
I'm not sure if only the acid damage is gone but you still ignore the spell resistance, or everything is gone and you cast a raw eldritch blast, or since the creature isn't inmune to the part of the effect that ignores the spell resistance the rule I quoted before won't apply, making the creature inmune to the vitriolic blast.
5th- Last question, I promise, if a creature is inmune to all spell-like abilities from extraplanar creatures, and our warlock encounters this creature at a plane other than the material (thus having the extraplanar subtype), would the creature be inmune to any invocation the warlock can cast?
Thank you very much in advance for any answer, keep in mind that English isn't my primary language, so I apologize for any mistake.