Dousedinoil
2015-02-24, 09:59 PM
Hey all,
Sorry for making a new thread but I have a few questions about mounted combat that I would like to try and understand. One of my party members recently had to make a new character and decided that he wanted a druid (because they have the most potential to abuse and generally considered one of the best classes in the game). However, he hasn't done his research and it usually falls on the DM and the rest of the group to do his research for him (I'm not saying this is right but otherwise we waste an hour ever session going over something new). He was using a longbow at first but after we looked into it, Druids can't use longbows. We decided to let him use a light crossbow for the remainder of the session but told him if he wanted to continue using it, he would have to change one of his feats to do so. His character sheet is a bit of a mess but were trying to fix it for him so that he can use the character properly. :smallsmile:
A few things about his character:
1. Small Creature (Based on a Fairy) that because of the low strength mod and size can barely carry his armor and weapons.
2. Mount is his companion (a wolf) that is a medium creature. Wolf has an AC of 14 (10+2dex+2natural). Wolf does 1D6+1 DMG with trip.
3. Strength of 6 for a -3mod. :smallfrown:
4. Dexterity 18: +4mod :smallbiggrin:
5. Pending Weapon: Light crossbow (If a feat is used). The other feat he has is Reach Spell.
6. AC is 18. 10+4dex+3armor+1sizemod
7. The creature has to use small weapons which is a 1D6 for DMG ranged attacks and 1D4 for melee.
Its my understanding that for simplicity you give the mount and the character the same initiative. So the wolf can move 50 feet as its move action, the wolf can take a melee attack (1D6+1) and the character would use his scimitar (1D4-3). This seems pointless given that he didn't design his character to do melee damage. I believe he also has to roll a DC of 10 to get the second attack? If he tries to make a ranged attack this point, he would provoke an opportunity attack. Can he make the ranged attack first and then move so that his wolf can make the attack? The players handbook is pretty clear when it says that you can make a move action normally so that you can load and fire a light crossbow in a round while your mount is moving. Or do they have to attack together? I don't see how this is an effective use of attacks. If he is flanking, would the wolf get to make an AOO but he wouldn't?
Also, when the mount/druid is attacked, does the opponent have to attack the mount first? Or does it pick the target? Given that the players handbook says "If you are dropped you have a 50% change to stay in the saddle but your mount avoids combat". I imagine you can still attack the caster? Obviously the mount would run away if it was just a horse but does it run if its an attack wolf? He doesn't have mounted combat as a feat yet so he can't use his AC as his companions AC. I also noticed that when casting spells (essentially what he wants to do with the reach spells) with a normal move its the same as a regular spell but if he moves, casts the spell and moves again he has to make a DC of 10 (15 if running).
I checked out http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=7414 and think im on the right track. Any help would be appreciated.
Sorry for making a new thread but I have a few questions about mounted combat that I would like to try and understand. One of my party members recently had to make a new character and decided that he wanted a druid (because they have the most potential to abuse and generally considered one of the best classes in the game). However, he hasn't done his research and it usually falls on the DM and the rest of the group to do his research for him (I'm not saying this is right but otherwise we waste an hour ever session going over something new). He was using a longbow at first but after we looked into it, Druids can't use longbows. We decided to let him use a light crossbow for the remainder of the session but told him if he wanted to continue using it, he would have to change one of his feats to do so. His character sheet is a bit of a mess but were trying to fix it for him so that he can use the character properly. :smallsmile:
A few things about his character:
1. Small Creature (Based on a Fairy) that because of the low strength mod and size can barely carry his armor and weapons.
2. Mount is his companion (a wolf) that is a medium creature. Wolf has an AC of 14 (10+2dex+2natural). Wolf does 1D6+1 DMG with trip.
3. Strength of 6 for a -3mod. :smallfrown:
4. Dexterity 18: +4mod :smallbiggrin:
5. Pending Weapon: Light crossbow (If a feat is used). The other feat he has is Reach Spell.
6. AC is 18. 10+4dex+3armor+1sizemod
7. The creature has to use small weapons which is a 1D6 for DMG ranged attacks and 1D4 for melee.
Its my understanding that for simplicity you give the mount and the character the same initiative. So the wolf can move 50 feet as its move action, the wolf can take a melee attack (1D6+1) and the character would use his scimitar (1D4-3). This seems pointless given that he didn't design his character to do melee damage. I believe he also has to roll a DC of 10 to get the second attack? If he tries to make a ranged attack this point, he would provoke an opportunity attack. Can he make the ranged attack first and then move so that his wolf can make the attack? The players handbook is pretty clear when it says that you can make a move action normally so that you can load and fire a light crossbow in a round while your mount is moving. Or do they have to attack together? I don't see how this is an effective use of attacks. If he is flanking, would the wolf get to make an AOO but he wouldn't?
Also, when the mount/druid is attacked, does the opponent have to attack the mount first? Or does it pick the target? Given that the players handbook says "If you are dropped you have a 50% change to stay in the saddle but your mount avoids combat". I imagine you can still attack the caster? Obviously the mount would run away if it was just a horse but does it run if its an attack wolf? He doesn't have mounted combat as a feat yet so he can't use his AC as his companions AC. I also noticed that when casting spells (essentially what he wants to do with the reach spells) with a normal move its the same as a regular spell but if he moves, casts the spell and moves again he has to make a DC of 10 (15 if running).
I checked out http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=7414 and think im on the right track. Any help would be appreciated.