Monstercops Test thread. Tempestfury edition.

[Illven]

Please place yourself, roll init, roll knowledge, and list your buffs.


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Dragon =9



Hp 375
AC 48 To 15 FF 46
Full Atk +40 melee (2d8+11, bite), +38 melee (2d6+5, 2 claws), +38 melee (1d8+5, 2 wings), +38 melee (2d6+16, tail slap);
Abilities Dex 14
Freedom of movement CL 11
Haste CL 11
Cat's grace CL 11
Shield CL 11
Shield of faith CL 11
Spells (6/5/6/7/7/4)

[Tempestfury]

What is the environment like? Is it dark and shadowery anywhere? It might become important, depending on how the battle goes.

Malicious see's his opponent in front of him and crouches down. Shadows lick across his form, hiding him from sight momentarily. For the infamous Black Arrow however, this is more than enough for him. Within the cloak he had cast around him, Malicious drew back his bow, a faintly shimmering line of energy appearing from the artifact, along with a jet-black arrow notched within it. Malicious looked down the shaft towards his enemy, instinctively reading the wind and judging the distance. Raising his arm so that his arrow would make it far enough. Entering a tance like state, the Rakshasa zeroed in on a chink in the dragon's scales, a weak-spot that perhaps not even he knew about... only a few second past before Malicious held his breath, and let the string slip through his fingers, sending the arrow spiralling through the air on its path to the dragon.

Base Initiative modifier is +10, so I'm going first regardless of the roll.
Swift Action, Cloak of Deception Manuverer, I gain Greater Invisiblity until the end of my current turn.

Full Round Action to Backstab the Dragon. As they can't see me, they are treated as flat-footed against my attack. Additionally, I am using the 'Called Shot' ability to automatically threaten a critical hit with this attack, and the 'Weak Spot' ability to make the attack a Touch Attack. Putting both of these abilities at 6/7 for the rest of the encounter.

Question, does Backstab count as a Full-Attack action in regards to the Sniper's Aim ability? Backstab does state that you sacrifice all your other attacks to activate it. It it does, then this attack gains +7 to attack, and + [roll0] to damage. most likely applying before Backstab.

[roll1], [roll2] x4 thanks to Critical Hit. +[roll3] before x2 thanks to Backstab.
Distance Marksman allows me sneak-attack at the first range interval of my weapon, which is 400ft thanks to Rangefinder. Additionally, the Critical Shot ability allows me to critical hit creates normally immune to it, as well as deal precision damage to creatures normally immune to it.

If this instantly kills the dragon, I suggest that instead of your ruling on Craven, you instead put a hard limit on the range of Backstab to 30ft, as that is where the majority of my damage is coming from for this shot. You can still flich Craven afterwards if you so desire. There is also the fact, that the rules on Backstab and critical hits is murky. Backstab doubles the damage including Sneak-Attack, whilst Critical Hits only affect flat increases to damage and the base damage. To me I believe this means that Bakcstabs double the damage of the critical hit + the sneak attack damage. However, it could be ruled that Backstab simply increases the critical modifier by 1 and doubles the sneak attack damage, which again, would greatly reduce the damage of Backstab.

[Illven]

I think Aim and Backstab do not work together. Your sneak is +7d6. (Your race is +6d6, not +1d6)

So you do a total of 120 normal damage and 58 sneak attack damage. The dragon makes it's save versus massive damage.

The dragon charges, which trigger frightful presence


will save [roll0]


You save.


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Bite
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]


You take 23 damage after DR, putting you at 72/95 hp.


Dragon =9



Hp 207/375
AC 48 To 15 FF 46
Full Atk +40 melee (2d8+11, bite), +38 melee (2d6+5, 2 claws), +38 melee (1d8+5, 2 wings), +38 melee (2d6+16, tail slap);
Abilities Dex 14
Freedom of movement CL 11
Haste CL 11
Cat's grace CL 11
Shield CL 11
Shield of faith CL 11
Spells (6/5/6/7/7/4)

[Tempestfury]

(Forgot to put him at A20... oh well)

Unfortunately for Malicious, despite the fact that his arrow struck home, sinking deep into the dragon. It didn’t slay it. The Rakshasa cursing as the cloak of shadows fell away... he had no change to react as the dragon charged forwards, its mouth lunging and fangs wide... the Rakshasa barely managed to dodge its bite and keep his arm from being lost into that muzzle. Still, the fangs cut into his chest, drawing blood, and Malicious knew he could not make the same mistake again.

Once more, the shadows licked around Malicious, hiding him from view as he drew back his bow. This time, he didn’t need to put so much effort into his shot, aiming directly for the beasts eye at such close range... nor did he take so long. Releasing the shot before moving away, trusting his darkness to keep him hidden as he used his wings to fly a little distance across the ground before landing and turning to see the results of his shot.

Swift Action, Cloak of Deception once more.
Using Aim as a Standard Action, stacking Weak Spot and Called Shot once more, giving me 5/7 uses of these abilities. Using the Power Shot ability of the Energy Bow to full.

[roll0], [roll1] x4, + [roll2] + [roll3]

Moving to A20, Move Silently is +30, Hide is +37, through being invisible I should get an extra +40 for that.

[Illven]

Where are you moving to?

The dragon is critically wounded.

It is not your turn yet.


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Dragon =9



Hp 15/375
AC 48 To 15 FF 46
Full Atk +40 melee (2d8+11, bite), +38 melee (2d6+5, 2 claws), +38 melee (1d8+5, 2 wings), +38 melee (2d6+16, tail slap);
Abilities Dex 14
Freedom of movement CL 11
Haste CL 11
Cat's grace CL 11
Shield CL 11
Shield of faith CL 11
Spells (6/5/6/7/7/4)

[Tempestfury]

I said I was moving to A20 in my post.

[Illven]

The dragon chants and a field of rubbery tentacles appears underneath you.


Tentacle grapple check [roll0]
Your grapple check [roll1]


You can only move at half speed, but you are not grappled.

Your turn.


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Dragon =9



Hp 15/375
AC 48 To 15 FF 46
Full Atk +40 melee (2d8+11, bite), +38 melee (2d6+5, 2 claws), +38 melee (1d8+5, 2 wings), +38 melee (2d6+16, tail slap);
Abilities Dex 14
Freedom of movement CL 11
Haste CL 11
Cat's grace CL 11
Shield CL 11
Shield of faith CL 11
Spells (6/5/6/7/6/4)

[Tempestfury]

Malicious was surprised when the dragon managed to cast a spell at his location, showing that despite his powers of stealth the dragon could still find him. He couldn’t call upon his cloak of shadows either, so there was no further ways for him to hide... and yet, Malicious found he didn’t really case. “You die now.” He said coldly, standing straight and draw back his bow, allowing the dragon to see the black arrow form, allowing him to see Malicious look down through it... allowing him to see as the black arrow sped on its way to slay him.

Standard Aim, Using Weak Spot and Called Shot. Power Shot for full.
[roll0], [roll1] x +[roll2]

Ya'know, I'm starting to think that maybe I shouldn't be allowed to use Weak Spot and Called Shot on the same enemy consecutively...

[Illven]

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Dragon =13



Hp 375
AC 44 FF 41 To 11

Chill shield CL 9
Haste CL 9
Protection from energy Acid CL 9
Protection from energy Electricity CL 9
Protection from energy Fire CL 9
Protection from energy Sonic CL 9
Cat grace CL 9
shield CL 9
Spells left (6/6/6/0/3)

[Tempestfury]

Initative, [roll0]

[Tempestfury]

“A white dragon? As if that will be a challenge for me.” Malicious said, scoffing at the sight of the enemy before him, white dragons were infamous for being the weakest and most cowardly of the chromatic dragons, even someone as unknowledgable as himself knew that much about him. Malicious stood tall as he drew back his bow, allowing the white dragon to see the black arrow forming before shadows licked around him, hiding Malicious from view... giving him all the time he needed to line up the perfect shot and send the arrow straight at the dragon.

Swift Action Cloak of Deception

Weak Spot and Called Shot for my Backstab. Full Power Shot.

[roll0] [roll1] x5 + [roll2] x2

[Illven]

Your attack bloodies the dragon.

A whiteish fog that seems to slow, and make it impossible to fire ranged weapons.


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Dragon =13



Hp 124/375
AC 44 FF 41 To 11

Chill shield CL 9
Haste CL 9
Protection from energy Acid CL 9
Protection from energy Electricity CL 9
Protection from energy Fire CL 9
Protection from energy Sonic CL 9
Cat grace CL 9
shield CL 9
Spells left (6/6/6/0/3)

[Tempestfury]

Malicious cursed under his breath as his was surrounded in a powerful fog, greatly restricting his movements and making it completely impossible to strike with his bow. The dragon he was fighting was a clever enemy for sure... the Rakshasa started to move through the fog, sticking in one direction in order to find and exit... and using as much training as he could in order to stay hidden from the dragon until he could get free.

Double-Move through the Fog, moving to C20. Move Silently is 40, Hide is 47.

[Illven]

Your turn. The dragon doesn't seem to know where you are.


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Dragon =13



Hp 124/375
AC 44 FF 41 To 11

Chill shield CL 9
Haste CL 9
Protection from energy Acid CL 9
Protection from energy Electricity CL 9
Protection from energy Fire CL 9
Protection from energy Sonic CL 9
Cat grace CL 9
shield CL 9
Spells left (6/6/6/0/3)

[Tempestfury]

Malicious let out a sigh of relief that the dragon seemed to have no clue as to where he was... so he continued moving forwards, the going rather slow and tedious for a being that was normally swift of foot and of wing. The fog proved to be small however, as Malicious eventually cleared it... and with clear sight of the dragon, hoping that coming out of the fog did not reveal him.

Double Move to E20, same hide and move silently.

[Illven]

Dragon still can't see you.

Your turn.


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Dragon =13



Hp 124/375
AC 44 FF 41 To 11

Chill shield CL 9
Haste CL 9
Protection from energy Acid CL 9
Protection from energy Electricity CL 9
Protection from energy Fire CL 9
Protection from energy Sonic CL 9
Cat grace CL 9
shield CL 9
Spells left (6/6/6/0/3)

[Tempestfury]

"A good try, but with no follow up, you die." Malicious said softly to himself, drawing back his bow and aiming at the dragon. Once more, in a trance like state he found a kink in the dragon's armour as the black energy arrow form. From how injured the dragon was with his last shot, Malicious was confident of his victory as he held his breath and let the string slip through his fingers, launching the black arrow on its deadly journey.

Full-Round Action, Backstab. Using Weak Spot and Called Shot and full Power Shot

[roll0] [roll1] x5 + [roll2] x2 damage

[Illven]

"A good try, but with no follow up, you die." Malicious said softly to himself, drawing back his bow and aiming at the dragon. Once more, in a trance like state he found a kink in the dragon's armour as the black energy arrow form. From how injured the dragon was with his last shot, Malicious was confident of his victory as he held his breath and let the string slip through his fingers, launching the black arrow on its deadly journey.

Full-Round Action, Backstab. Using Weak Spot and Called Shot and full Power Shot

[roll0] [roll1] x5 + [roll2] x2 damage

And that means the dragon is dead.

So nerfing time.

[Tempestfury]

Suggestions:

DR is reduced to DR 7/Piercing & Good in order to make my character more squishy, but not removing his DR complete as it is a factor of his species.

Called Shot and Weak Spot have a 1d4(+1?) Cooldown before they can be used again.

Backstab cannot refresh a maneuver if I used it during that turn.

[Illven]

Suggestions:

DR is reduced to DR 7/Piercing & Good in order to make my character more squishy, but not removing his DR complete as it is a factor of his species.

Called Shot and Weak Spot have a 1d4(+1?) Cooldown before they can be used again.

Backstab cannot refresh a maneuver if I used it during that turn.

1d4+1 rounds?

[Tempestfury]

1d4 or 1d4+1. I suggest 1d4 rounds as I already am limited to the amount of times per encounter... through admittedly 7/encouter is more than enough.

[Illven]

1d4 or 1d4+1. I suggest 1d4 rounds as I already am limited to the amount of times per encounter... through admittedly 7/encouter is more than enough.

Thing is, if you roll a 1, you can use them back to back.

[Tempestfury]

If that's how it works, then make it a 1d4+1 recharge time then.

[Illven]

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Dragon =1



Hp 287
AC 41 FF 39 To 13

Abilities Dex 14

Cat's grace CL 9
Shield of faith CL 9
Shield CL 9
Spells (6/6/6/7/5)

[Tempestfury]

(Okay, bored of flavour text now)

Malicous used his cloak of deception to hide from view, launching a devastating sneak attack

Swift Cloak of Deception
Full-Round Action Backstab. With Called Shot [roll0] and Weak Spot [roll1] and full Power Shot
[roll2] [roll3] x5 + [roll4] x2

[Illven]

The dragon is severely wounded.

But it breaths on you.


[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]


Will save [roll3]


You are paralyzed for 13 rounds. Any defense against this?


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Dragon =1



Hp 50/287
AC 41 FF 39 To 13

Abilities Dex 14

Cat's grace CL 9
Shield of faith CL 9
Shield CL 9
Spells (6/6/6/7/5)

[Tempestfury]

Nope. No Defence, pretty sure a 13 round paraylze leaves me deader than dead.

Not much change to test the nerfs...

[Illven]

Shall I roll up your next foe.

[Tempestfury]

Go ahead, need a bit of a prolonged fight to properly test the nerfs.

[Illven]

Please roll init, and place yourself.


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Dragon =14



Hp 350
AC 39 FF 39 To 8

Spells (6/7/7/7/3)

[Tempestfury]

A20 [roll0]

[Tempestfury]

Malicous used his cloak of deception to hide from view, launching a devastating sneak attack

Swift Cloak of Deception
Full-Round Action Backstab. With Called Shot [roll0] and Weak Spot [roll1] and full Power Shot
[roll2] [roll3] x5 + [roll4] x2

[Illven]

A mass of tentacles appears from under you.


[roll0]
[roll1]


You are grappled

Your turn.


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Dragon =14



Hp 133/350
AC 39 FF 39 To 8

Spells (6/7/7/7/3)

[Tempestfury]

Malicious cursed when the tentacles managed to latch onto his frame, making it impossible for him to hide and get ready for his next attack. Still, he was no stranger to grappling despite his focus on the bow, and tried to use this knowledge and his strength to break free.

[roll0]

[Illven]

You remain grappled.

Attacks

Bite
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]

Claw
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]
[roll7]

Claw
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]

Wing
[roll12]
[roll13]
[roll14]
[roll15]

Wing
[roll16]
[roll17]
[roll18]
[roll19]

Tail
[roll20]
[roll21]
[roll22]
[roll23]

Grapple [roll24]
Opposed Grapple [roll25]
Damage [roll26]


Okay after DR, you take 97 damage. Which makes you dying right?


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Dragon =14



Hp 133/350
AC 39 FF 39 To 8

Spells (6/7/7/7/3)

[Tempestfury]

...

So in other words, the nerfs weren't needed at all. I got pretty unlucky with the grapple-checks as I rolled a 1 and a 3, but even so. Once you actually began using the lock-down abilities of the dragons, I so quickly that the nerfs didn't really come into account at all.

[Illven]

...

So in other words, the nerfs weren't needed at all. I got pretty unlucky with the grapple-checks as I rolled a 1 and a 3, but even so. Once you actually began using the lock-down abilities of the dragons, I so quickly that the nerfs didn't really come into account at all.

Even then the nerfs will still needed.

Not every dragon had lock down abilities anyway.

And you still killed the white, even though it had solid fog.

[Tempestfury]

I'll keep the nerfs yeah, but I think these two different rounds of testing proved rather strongly what my character has in terms of strengths and weaknesses.