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tim01300
2015-03-21, 02:39 PM
So I'm trying to do a boss fight with my group (unoptimized core only, 6 players) and I'm looking to find something Like the Aspect of Tiamat at the end of the Red Hand of Doom Campaign but with Lolth. Around a CR 14 or 15. Do you guys know of anything like this that has already been done? Or Feel like taking a crack at it? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

ZamielVanWeber
2015-03-21, 02:53 PM
Aspect of Lolth? Spider themed powers!
A random list of possible ideas:
Web as an SLA (along with other spider themed SLAs)/Web throwing
The ability to summon spiders like a tanar'ri summons monsters (IIRC Lolth used to be a demon before she became a goddess)
Aranea's are spider themed and have sorcerous casting, so why not Lolth! (and its a great way to add some challenge).

Personally I am thinking something like 20 outsider HD (to avoid being oneshot); web throwing as a free action with a 1d4 round cool down (means she will get 1-2 webs in combat unless she get super lucky), the ability to summon 2 gargantuan monstrous spiders with 100% chance of success (unless ambushed she will use this before combat starts), and choose some SLA's spider and perhaps damage themed, although I would avoid having anything over, say, 7th level (and those should be sparse).

nyjastul69
2015-03-21, 03:17 PM
There is an official Aspect of Lolth detailed in the Miniatures Handbook. IIRC, it's CR 11.

Ephemeral_Being
2015-03-21, 04:12 PM
Lolth's thing is Evil/Chaos, Darkness, Drow, and Spiders.

Seeing as Spiders is the obvious thing to draw from, let's try to use Chaos/Darkness as a theme.

So, have her open with Word of Chaos (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/wordOfChaos.htm). Make it a 1/day SLA. Or maybe 3/day. But not a spell. Also, give her access to all of the Drow SLA's at-will, and at a decent caster level. That means supernatural Darkness effects. Toss in a few spells to sow chaos amongst her attackers (Confusion (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/confusion.htm), Mislead (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/mislead.htm), Mirror Image (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/mirrorImage.htm)), and that should give the battle a different feeling than normal. You need to give any Aspect of Lolth a Whip. There's a Whip of Webs in the MIC, but it's weak. Change the 3/day to infinite uses/day. And now that we've taken care of stunning/trapping the enemy you just need to get her a way to actually deal damage.

I'm voting for gratuitous use of spells. Now, there are some okay Chaos based ones. Chaos Hammer (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/chaosHammer.htm), obviously. For some reason the Chaos domain includes Animate Objects (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/animateObjects.htm), and Shatter (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/shatter.htm), too. But none of those are great. And unless you want to stat her as a Cleric (which is an option), you won't get access to Chaos Hammer.

So, let's turn to Arcane magic, and Darkness themed spells. Specifically, Shadow Conjuration (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/shadowConjuration.htm), and Shadow Evocation (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/shadowEvocation.htm). Those two spells alone (and their improved versions) give you some great options without having to learn dozens of spells. Cloudkill (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Cloudkill) could be interesting, too. Especially if she has previously cast Obscuring Mist (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Obscuring_Mist), and they wouldn't be concerned about more fog rolling in. And I'm sure there are more that I'm missing. I don't play Wizards all that much. Well, really ever.

In order to make the Shadow based spells work, check out the Shadowcraft Mage class in Races of Stone. It gives her partial concealment, and some other nice bonuses. Go with Spellcasting as a 15th level Sorcerer (Sorcerer 10/Shadowcraft Mage 5), but fix the horrible HP and saves that go along with it. Someone suggested using Outsider HD, I think? That should work.

Toss on the ability to summon a Large Monstrous Spider (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/monstrousSpider.htm) as a swift action, and this should be a good fight. It's just enough to stop them from focusing all their attacks on her. Keep it to a maximum of two at once, so they aren't overwhelmed.

What do you think? That feels like Lolth to me.

EDIT: And one already existed. I didn't know that...

tim01300
2015-03-21, 04:17 PM
Thanks guys, these are all very helpful!