[3.5] Looking for Undead

[Thurbane]

Hey all,

Didn't have much luck in the RAW thread with this.

I'm looking for Undead that meet the following criteria:


Can be created with spells.
Have the Acid, Air, Cold, Earth, Electricity, Fire or Water subtypes.
Be intelligent and able to take feats.

Cheers - T

[Inevitability]

1. Take a frog.
2. Polymorph Any Object it into a Cinderspawn.
3. ????
4. Profit!

[PraxisVetli]

Not entirely sure on the creation of Necromentals, but they might help.

[Thurbane]

Well, from the WotC monster archive, this is what I can find:

Cinderspawn
Desiccator
Effigy
Entombed
Forgewraith
Gravecrawler
Icegaunt
Shadow of the Void
Shape of Fire
Shinen-Gaki
Skeleton, Young Adult Red Dragon
Voidwraith
Wight, Dust
Winterwight

...not sure which of these can be created, and have Int scores.

[Shining Wrath]

You can houserule adding Vampire or Zombie to elementals and so on.

[Thurbane]

Looking for a RAW answer if possible...


Not entirely sure on the creation of Necromentals, but they might help.

Necromental would be perfect, but I don't think they are created via spells.

[Ardyina]

Looking for a RAW answer if possible...



Necromental would be perfect, but I don't think they are created via spells.IIRC Necromentals can be only created through the Create Spawn ability of another Necromental. Necromental are not very intelligent since they have an INT Score of 1

[Urpriest]

The list has a Skeleton on it. Awaken said skeleton, or any other appropriate one with the desired subtypes.

[Silva Stormrage]

Couldn't you just take any animate undead and slap the spell that grants the fire/cold subtype on it? Not 100% sure what you need the undead for though

[atemu1234]

The list has a Skeleton on it. Awaken said skeleton, or any other appropriate one with the desired subtypes.

Aren't there rituals of association for elements in Savage Species?

[Urpriest]

Aren't there rituals of association for elements in Savage Species?

Savage Species rituals tend to live firmly in the land of stuff that's technically RAW but probably unwise to mess with. Besides, there are spells that grant the subtypes, instantaneously in one case, so using the rituals here would be a waste of money.

[Thurbane]

Which spells in particular grant these subtypes?

[Ardyina]

Mantle of the Icy Soul from Frostburn will give a target the Cold subtype permanently. The Mantle of the Fiery Spirit from Sandstorm will give a target the Fire subtype permanently. To cast these spells you need to be a Cleric or Druid.

[Silva Stormrage]

Mantle of the Icy Soul from Frostburn will give a target the Cold subtype permanently. The Mantle of the Fiery Spirit from Sandstorm will give a target the Fire subtype permanently. To cast these spells you need to be a Cleric or Druid.

Yep these were the ones I was talking about. Not hard to think that you could homebrew some for the other subtypes either.

[Thurbane]

I supposed you could add the Bone Creature or Corpse Creature template to a creature that already has the appropriate subtype.

That might be easiest for my purposes.

[The Viscount]

I'm a fan of Juju Zombie from Unapproachable East. It's created using create undead and you can slap it on anything with a subtype. It keeps all qualities, and adds on some oddities like a climb speed and immunity to electricity.