Court of the Royal Eagle

[Akisa]

Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Margrave)
Stats 3 Adminitration, 3 Diplomancy 2 Military. 6 Pretige 100 Legitimacy

In an effort to unite the people or perhaps to simply establish a more centralized rule, the Margrave order a decree for all counts to report to the capital once every two years to discuss maters of the state. The invitation called to gather at the state home of Frederick II Von Hohenzollern in Brandenburg. Upon arriving to the state home, servants escorted the various guest to a well furnished room with the main fixture of the room seemed to focused on a rectangle table. Multiple chairs lined the length of the table but with only one chair with the insignia of Brandenburg carved into the head of the chair rest at the head of the table.

“Please Rise for the Prince Elector, Frederick the second Von Hohenzollern” spoke one servant as the Margrave entered the room.

Frederick II promptly approached the stylized chair and sat down, “Please be seated” said Federick II after he had sat down in his chair.

“Welcome to my home, I hope your trip was pleasant. First matter of business I would like to discuss the Neumark problem. Attempts to negotiate for the return of the land has fallen on deaf ears. Because of lack of willingness we may have to take the land back by force. The Emperor himself shows willingness to aid us in retaking Neumark, and the Poles and Teutonic Order are in constant conflict with each other we could see to form an alliance with nobles in Poland to attack the Order. As for the Order's alliance, we received word that a likely alliance with the free count of Mecklenburg and the splinter group known as the Livonian order.

This leaves us with a unique opportunity, with the web off alliances we can maneuver to acquire sea port. It is likely we can incorporate the county of Danzig as a strong prize as the original sale of Neumark also included Danzig, so acquiring the land won't be seen as too egregious, but the lack of ability to resupply any garrison let alone any levies would be a problem. It is likely we would have to acquire another port. We lack any claim to Mecklenburg but old records of Mecklenburg point to a the house of Vaal to be of nobility from the region, through some convincing of the barons in Mecklenburg we maybe able to point an informant as a decadent of the same noble house of Vaal. This would allow us to give some claim to the land to restore his nobility and quell some resistance. As such I am requesting to use the Levies provided to prepare for the coming war, and for additional levy to be used for the war. This war if maneuvered quickly and decisive enough we can earn a nice profit from trading alone by having access to the open sea and getting rid of much hated pirates” said Federick II before pausing to allow the others to speak.

[Mabn]

Count Wolfgang closed his eyes to search his memory on the areas mentioned. "I can't see preparing levies before our alliances are even writ to be wise or economical. If Austria and the Poles will fight with us..."

[Sange]

Count Elias spoke up: "While I support going to war with the Teutons to recapture Neumark and take Danzig, I think we should improve our standing with the Emprr before taking any land in the Empire, which could anger him, and leave us without a strong ally if the Poles decide they want Danzig too."

When will you be streaming (GMT time)?
Also, I suggest adding the rules in the OP in a spoiler.

[rweird]

"Count" Bertram takes a seat near the far end of the table. "It is true that we must require our lost territories, and these alliances seem to good to let go. However, we should be wary of Poland. They too would want the territory. While they make a powerful ally, unlike the Emperor, they are an alliance of convenience, and, perhaps, one that won't long endure. Nevertheless, until then, we should exploit this alliance for all it is worth."

Turning to Elias he responds. "The Emperor has agreed to help us in this war. If Mecklenburg joins enemies of the Empire when the Empire takes what is rightfully the Empires, Mecklenburg would be a traitor. Surely the Emperor wouldn't mind if the traitor is replaced with someone more loyal. If the Poles turn against us, the Emperor will protect his own, and if not, then our Margrave could see to appoint a more worthy successor. No, the Habsburgs want to stay Emperor, so they will permit this, if only to gain support with an Elector."

We need to take Mecklenburg to core Danzig, as we don't start with a core on Danzig, have no ports, and Neumark doesn't boarder it. If Austria is an ally in the war, he won't get much AE for us taking provinces in a war he is on our side in, and probably wouldn't demand the territory because he doesn't want to upset electors or allies.

[OrcusMcP]

Karl had been at the state home on business with new dining linens when he heard the assorted Lords assembling. Making his way quietly to join them, he managed to find himself standing with the servants of Count Elias. Listening to the Margrave's words, his heart skipped. He felt Pride that the Margrave knew of his family's status and plight in Mecklenburg, but fear that the Margrave knew of him personally. Had he been careless? Did he need to now finally pay the proper toll for his deeds? Was it time to finally assume some responsibility?

Thoughts raced in Karl's mind. Strategies formed and reformed has he desperately thought of a way to turn this to his advantage. While the possibility of land and title was tempting, he knew that Mecklenburg had thrown his family out of power for a reason, and that reason was the Hansa. With enough money to buy God and sell Him to the devil, the Hanseatic merchants were now just haggling over price. No, Mecklenburg was a trap. Karl's best contacts were in Danzig, and from there he knew that the Pomms were mighty at sea but weak on land. If the Margrave sought trade coasts, perhaps some could be found there? A good start, but the lords would be too proud for that now. No, better to simply tilt them more towards the direction they want to go in anyway. Yes, that will do.

Stepping forward slightly and bowing deeply, he began "My assembled Lords, I beg your forgiveness and indulgence, but as the resident Vaal I feel I must speak. Karl von Vaal at your service. What has happened to my family in Mecklenburg is intolerable, to be sure, but I fear cannot be helped. Mecklenburg is under the thumb of the Hanseatic League, and with their alliance with Poland would be a morsel we would choke on for little sustainance. Would it not be more prudent, my Lords, to keep our gaze to the East, for now, to settle the Neumark question? I hear tell from my contacts in Danzig that the Order and the Poles are already arming their mutual border, and we must be prepared to take advantage."

Mecklenburg is suckers bait. Let the Hannoverian minors fight with the Hansa and Denmark for it. Pommerania and Danzig are the real prizes if we want to start getting trade income.

[Sange]

Turning to Karl, Elias responded: "War between the Poles and the Order is inevitable, which is why we shall need to declare war with them soon.
On the subject of Mecklenburg, if we take Danzig, would it not be dangerous to not have a connection to it, wether by land or sea? If we do not take it, then we would have to take Hinterpommern just after finishing the Teutonic war, and we cannot be sure that our resources and manpower will be intact at that time."

I don't know about you, but I don't fancy sitting on 48% uncorable OE this early.

[rweird]

"Danzig is a key port city of the baltic. If we take it, the Hansa may wish to stay on our good side so they may continue their trade. Mecklenburg is not as important a trade post, while the Hansa may not love us, they may tolerate us, and give us time. Time to use our new land and grow stronger."

I think Pomerania is a good next target, although we'd need more time to fabricate claims first. Mecklenburg is an ally with the Teutonic Order, so we can take them in our first war, when they can't call their own allies. With the exception of Denmark, I don't think anyone really would be gutsy enough to declare on us with Austria and Poland (possibly Poland+Lithuania) as an ally until a coalition forms.

[Akisa]

Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Margrave)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 6 Prestige 100 Legitimacy

“I concur Elias with Count Elias, which is why need to secure a second port as quickly as possible. While there is some historical claim to lands in Pomenania, those claims have long since been abandoned, though as position as Prince elector, I could leverage a return of those claims but would only be possible after Neumark is returned to our Realm as indicated by the previous sell of land. And attacking Pomenania would make us seem like aggressive expanders, rather than someone who punishing traitors to the Holy Roman Empire. As for Mecklenburg being a morsel, I agree it's a tiny morsel, it's a tiny morsel to sustain our self through the desert of solidifying our presence in the feast that is Danzig.

As for the mater of raising the levies, it's an important step to make our self look strong and make it easier to secure alliance. This is especially true when you're establishing an alliance of convenience, no one would want to ally a burden nation especially if they also maybe inclined to steal land they value; which is ironically what we're doing now” Federick replied after everyone has taken a turn to talk.

“As for the matter in leading the combined arms of Brandenburg, we must establish a clear general of the army. While I would I hesitantly recommend my brother to lead the army, we could make him a Lieutenant General in charge of sieges to allow him more military experience. Meanwhile the main army could be lead by someone with a bit more training, perhaps a regiment lead unless one of you wish to lead the army.” Fredick added wishing to move the agenda as the nobles were already in agreement about Mecklenburg and Danzig.

I agree about being Over Extended for so long with Danzig, but worst case scenario we could release Danzig as a vassal and annex later if we can't secure Mecklenburg. As for fabricating claim on Mecklenburg we can wait until the day of the start of the war and only annex/vassal them when when the claim is done.

As for streaming I'm mostly EST but I do travel a lot which is why I said occasionally as I can't stream with hotel internet most of the time. My first play session of non streaming will be tomorrow at the rate of posting it seems.

[Mabn]

Count Wolfgang cringed internally at the use of levies to make a show of force. Before a war was one thing, but after the war Brandenburg would be at its most vulnerable, and when it had grown into itself another war would ferment. If he didn't play this carefully he could be paying for this army for a very long time. "What if our alliance with Poland was not merely one of convenience? Perhaps you could find a relation of marriageable age to match with their house?"

[Akisa]

Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Margrave)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 6 Prestige 100 Legitimacy

Frederick nod in agreement, “Yes perhaps sending a noble marriage to one of the dukes or even counts near Danzig could also work in our favor to provide more legitimacy to our claim in Danzig. I will attempt to arrange a marriage for one my courtier, likely my brother for better leverage. Failing that I may have to arrange one for my courtier” Federick II added as he folded his hands together with a look of deep thought almost as if he was thinking outloud.

[Akisa]

Court of the Royal Eagle
Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Margrave)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 29 Prestige 94 Legitimacy

After the decision to invade the Teutonic Order was largely settled and it was only minor details that could be arranged later. As such Frederick dismissed the gathering of nobles to allow them to prepare for the war itself. Once dismissed Fedrick II announced the Teutonic Order as enemy of the state for failure of returning Neumark back to Brandenburg. Fredick II later announce Pomerania and Hansa once as rivals in response to similar proclamation made by both states. It wasn't until nearly four years later that the nobles were summoned to return back to Brandenburg after the successful war against the Teutonic Order.



It was the middle of summer heat wave in Brandenburg as the nobles arrived into state home of Fredirck II. Once again Fredrick II awaited for everyone to arrive before being announced once again as the Prince Elector by one of the house servant. Though one notable change was the demeanor Fredrick II, rather than being overly serious posture, this time he appeared to have a more joyful mood.

“Please be seated” said Frederick II said after he had sat down in his well made chair..


“Once again I would like to welcome everyone back to my home. As many you have learned the war with the Teutonic Order was... a profitable one. The national coffers have nearly tripped in size and for next 10 years our enemies are paying our war debit. This leaves us on what to do with this increase wealth. But money matters aside we should congratulate the new count of Neumark Bertram Von Neumark and Karl von Vall of Mecklenburg” said Fredick II as he pointed towards Bertram and Karl respectively.

“Speaking of new counts and counties, I will be adding Danzig to my demesne, at least until region is firmly secured. Many states outside of Brandenburg still eye Danzig and they hope to cite rebellion in the region. So until we convince the local barons, peasants to follow Brandenburg law, I will have oversea the area. And to aid this conversion I request to leave behind a small contingent of troops. To aid this endeavor we may need to secure a military access exchange between Poland and ourselves, this should allow us to make rapid response to reinforce Danzig as well ease tension at the Polish border. Another item on the agenda is to what to do with the new found wealth as increasing our Army size is not yet possible due to lack of possible recruits and conscription that should be saved for reversed for our currently standing army” Fedrick II said with a bit more serious tone to her voice.




Here is the war recap with pictures (http://imgur.com/a/WQix5). Currently we have 135 gold, with monthly income of +2 (after already using a hired 1 better relation over time +1 adviser to reduce the aggressive expansion). The current advisers +1 advisers are Admin Stability and Production efficiency. Mill is +1 reinforce speed and national manpower

[Mabn]

Count Wolfgang looked rather dumbfounded for a moment. The war had evidently gone even better than it had seemed to. Perhaps some of his own plans could come to fruition. "My ear to the ground says you've made quite the name for yourself with this war. I think you would be well served to now commit to peace with a similar enthusiasm lest that name change from audacious to mad. I have some ideas that could really improve our internal operations."


I recommend you hire the production efficiency admin and the manpower mil adviser and volunteer to have my character as the former

[rweird]

"I would say we need to wait for a time. While we have the money, we don't have the men to wage another war, and we still need to establish our government in Danzig. We should focus on diplomacy, to make sure our fellow princes realize what we did was just, and necessary for the good of the Empire. Also, we should try to find some claimant to Pomerania, or at the very least Hinterpomern to establish a land connection with Danzig, without having to rely on Polish generosity."

Does Poland have Lithuania in a PU, and does Denmark still hold its PU with Sweden and Norway?

I changed from Bold to DarkOrange, as I remembered voting is in Bold.

[OrcusMcP]

Karl seemed uncomfortable. COUNT Karl, he had to keep reminding himself. The gilded rules and procedure of nobility were not something he grew up with, taking to mercantile and shadowy pursuits as his family seat was taken when he was young.

"I thank you for your generosity, your Grace, I hope you will forgive my indiscretions as I become adjusted to my new role. Though you may have always thought of me and my family noble, I fear it was something I never thought of myself," Karl said as he bowed low with as much grace as he could muster.

Plots and secrets and influence, however, he knew those well and his new position afforded him the chance to become the master.

"I agree with the good Count Wolfgang that peace is what is just and necessary at this time. The other princes and electors are beginning to view us with suspicion, and it is high time we re-establish our prestige and legitimacy in the Empire. To that end, I suggest we engage in some active diplomacy. In my merchant days, I had not yet had the good fortune to find a bride, and my new position demands I be wed and produce an heir. If I may be so bold, I have been in touch with the Duke of Pommerania. He knows me from my earlier days and in light of my new situation has offered his niece's hand in marriage to me. Would such a Royal Marriage with Pommerania be conducive to your Grace's plan? Marriages lead to alliance, and if we continue to grow in influence we might even find new vassal in the Pomms."

Yesssssss Danzig secure in the opening moves without Poland poaching it! Very nice! We will indeed need to know if Poland-Lithuania is a ting, because if it is then we should start cooling off with them soon. If we can vassalize pommerania then we will be in a good position to both weaken the Hansa and crush the Teutons.

[Akisa]

I'm currently at work so I'll check when I get to the hotel, but I remember Poland doesn't have the PU and Sweeden is currently in the early stages of their independence war. If I remember correctly Poland and Lithuania do share a dynasty. As for royal marriage with Pomerania I don't believe it is possible when we rivaled each other.

[rweird]

"Count von Vaal, you may not have been aware of this, but the Pomeranians have made it obvious of their rivalry with us, and views our recent expansion as a threat. Therefore, I find it unlikely they would accept an alliance, or wish any relative in our courts, which could serve as a hostage. Only through military force vassalization would be possible at this time.

"As the Hansa is an ally, and seems similarly hostile, we should consider Embargoing both Pomerania and the Hansa, now that we have significant trade posts, both to swell our coffers and diminish theirs, so a war would not be viable. This would not be seen as aggressive by other princes, as they both declared their hostile intentions towards us first, making this a justified response, even showing restraint, instead of actual war."

I believe that we have rivaled Pomerania, so we can't diplomatically vassalize them. Additionally, our total base tax might be ~40, while Pomerania's is probably 10+, almost certainly 7+, which would give a -40 or higher penalty from relative base tax.

[OrcusMcP]

Karl kicked himself, how could his network be so sloppy? Time for damage control...

"A thousand apologies, your Grace, in the chaos of the war's aftermath the news must not have properly reached Mecklenburg. The Duke's offer is now clear to me as a ploy to use me to undermine your own realm, I will respond in the negative with all due haste.

"The question of my marriage remains an open question, however, should I seek instead a noble bride in Saxony?"

Yes, Saxony was powerful, but getting another elector onside would be perfect. Good thinking. Karl was pleased with himself for thinking so quickly on his feet.

Derrrrp, I must have missed that in the post. Oh well, we will have to conquer/vassalize Pommerania eventually. How is our relationship with Saxony, though? Would this work? THey are also an elector so getting them onside would be to our interest.

[Akisa]

Saxony currently has friendly relations with 26 even after aggressive expansion.

[Akisa]

Court of the Royal Eagle
Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Margrave)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 29 Prestige 94 Legitimacy

“I agree, I rather not rely on mercenaries who can become unpredictable and we don't want to seem like warmongers so we should lay low for the time being. As for Pomerania, any marriages attempt will likely end up as hostage rather than a political and fabricating any claims on Pomerania at the time being could result in a diplomatic incident, but I do agree we should bide our time and continuously look for opportunity for any Pomeranian weakness.

A marriage and alliance with Saxony could look like attempt at the securing shot the title of Emperor as we have allied with Bohemia and secured my dynasty on the throne. We don't know how Austria would respond, we could loose support by attempting this marriage, If you wish to seek a noble bride perhaps a noble in Sweden could be effective. Early reports that Denmark may loose their Swedish provinces. If the alliance with Swedish nobles is arranged and they win the war, the Baltic sea could be pivotal. The Swedes can provide a strong navy that can challenge the Hansa league navy let alone the Pomeranian navy.

But speaking of navy perhaps we should build a few initial trade ships, and hold off on galleys until built up a few naval experience.” Said Frederick II before pausing to take a sip of wine.


“As for Count Wolfgang, I would like to hear your ideas to improve our internal operation” Federick II continued after placing his drink back on the table.


Confirmed Poland has an Elective Monarchy but no PU over Lithuania. Sweden has +10 warscore.

[Sange]

Count Elias rose up to speak: "Indeed, I think that securing a friend in Saxony and in Sweden should be very helpful to the realm.
As we know, Poland has always had designs for Danzig- Sweden could be a very good ally if they turn on us.
For now, I think we should build trade ships aftee having seized Danzig. Maybe we could try finding claims on Hanseatic towns?"

[Akisa]

"While I agree an alliance with both would be ideal, it would put a large strain on diplomats managing as we have to attempt to please nations of varying degree of commitment. We should perhaps aid the Swedes for now and when our marital relations with Mantua is ended we should than look to ally with Saxony" Federick II replied towards count Elias as he was very concern with his diplomats being able to keep up relations with so many nations in a personal matter.

[Akisa]

Court of the Royal Eagle
Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Margrave)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 25 Prestige 88 Legitimacy
Game recap (http://imgur.com/a/CgyFj)


After nearly four years has past since the last gathering of Brandenburg nobles back into the state home of Federick II in effort to discuss the current situation. This time Margrave hurried into the room as being announced as if he wish to quickly speak almost time is of the essence.

“Please be seated gentlemen. As some of you may know the Pomeranian and the Hansa are currently in a war among each other. I have received word that the Pomeranian army and her allies are currently annihilated, we should seek to strike now before the Pomeranian. I would like to request three levy regiments quickly siege Hinterpommern while the rest stationed in Mecklenburg to prevent reinforcements from the west. By conquering Hinterpommern we would have a land bridge between Danzig and Brandenburg proper. In unrelated news thanks to excellent minsters should we focus on reaping the military benefits or reap the administration benefits as we're lacking in that department” Said Federick II with strong confident tone to his voice as he explained the situation.

Mil benefits gives + 10 Army/Navy tradition + 100 mil power. Admin gets you +1 Stab + 25 Prestige and Admin points. I also kind of want to add a mod returns innovate to get back its knowledge transfer and Aristocratic to gets its shock leader back. Reason being is as innovate seems very lacking and Aristocratic loose its early game potential. I was wondering is everyone ok with that?

[rweird]

The Count of Neumark pauses a moment to think. "I believe taking Hinterpommern to be in our best interest. However, as Pomerania is currently embroiled in a second war, I believe that we should focus more on our administration, the war should be won easily enough."

I'd be fine with that mod.

Why I think that we should take the administrative benefits is because we are already at Stability 1, so it gives 175 admin points (effectively) and 25 prestige, while the other gives 100 mil points, and 10 army/navy tradition. The 10 army tradition gives +2.5% moral of armies, +.5% siege ability, +1% manpower recovery speed, and +1% land moral recovery (naval tradition helps with trade a bit, although we don't have much of a navy at this point). The prestige gives us +12.5% better relations over time, +2.5% moral of armies and navies, -2.5% aggressive expansion impact, +.25 yearly legitimacy, and some less consequential stuff.

As they both give the same moral bonus, but prestige increases better relations over time (to burn off our AE) and gives AE reduction, it seems better.

[OrcusMcP]

Indeed, reforming the administration seems wise. The better our standing in the empire the more likely we are to have our concerns be treated with respect. I do, however, suggest we attack the Pomms as soon as possible, and vassalize them if we can rather than taking on further administrative burden. Our diplomatic corps has been working flawlessly and they could integrate the whole of Pommerania with minimal fuss, though it would take longer," Count Karl von Vaal was getting used to this. Now for the real push:

"Also, vassalization would put us in a position of defending our interests honourably against the Hansa, because the Pomms war would become our war. We would not get the chance to Humiliate the merchants so thoroughly again."

[Akisa]

Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Margrave)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 25 Prestige 88 Legitimacy

"While yes I do agree should eventually look to make Pomerania a vassal, now wouldn't be the perfect time. We still need to ease the tension in the Holy Roman Empire, a forcing Pomerania to become a vassal would give our enemies a right to start a coalition against us. We can not afford to make ourselves to look like an evil warmongering state. We don't even know how our delicate relations with Poland would respond, nor I doubt we can get much support from Austria in the future. Perhaps once Teutonic Order has been largely destroy would should return to settle things with Pomerania, or at least until our obligations in Mantua is over to lessen our diplomatic burdens." replied Federick II as he viewed making Pomerania to become a vassal by force would be heavily damage relations through out the empire.

Making Pomm a vassal would bring 43 Aggressive expansion and we are still burning off 20-30 aggressive expansion from the previous war. Until we build trust with our allies we shouldn't accumulate large amount of Aggressive expansion. Now if this was a WC we would be riding the AE train or exploiting it with occupation transfers.

[Mabn]

"I believe taking Hinterpommern would be more than enough for our purposes. It is more important that we are defensible than that we are large. And biased though I am, our administration could make excellent use of development."


use whatever mods you like

[Akisa]

Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Margrave)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 64 Prestige 93 Legitimacy
Game recap (http://imgur.com/a/D2SZo)

Once again after years have passing of four years the Brandenburg nobles was gathered once more, this time it was admits of a war. Due alliance obligations, Brandenburg was drawn into two separate wars, and collation was formed by Anhalt, the Hansa and Wuzburg.

“Well gentlemen as many of you have become aware we have been drawn into two different sets of wars. Luckily both wars are lopsided in our favor when we were called in. Now I suggest we finish occupy the Teutonic Order in hopes they're are knocked out of the war with no polish gains, so that we can conduct the war in our terms later. As for the collation against us is thankfully still small, which is thankfully due part to our diplomats working through out the empire.” Said the Federick II taking a pause to take a sip from his whine glass.

“Which is why I propose promote the Idea of Diplomatic nation, by expanding our diplomatic core, even at the expense of our emerging maritime. Since we're still not establish ourselves as a powerful trading nation, and instead more of regional land power surrounded by powers that can turn on you a moment notice once we are no longer convenient. With a better diplomatic core we can still convince our allies to back us in times of need, and for us to manage the difficult and shifting allegiances in the empire. Once we establish our diplomatic core, we can have much easier time to integrate any developments in trading and naval techniques” Federick II continued before pausing once more to allow his nobles to respond.

Well two mistakes I done this game. First I accidentally forgot to save my original play through for 1452-1456. On second play through I accidentally sent force vassal peace treaty, and only noticed after a year when collations started forming peace meal. Thankfully through improve relations the numbers in the collation is still low, with the biggest being the Hansa. I would like to take Diplomacy as first idea group, and keep taking ideas for it until capped in expense of diplomatic technology. We can than quickly catch up with 24% discount (each idea gives 2% discount with additional 10% for the idea group cap).

[rweird]

"We should focus on diplomacy to some degree, however, as we have a vassal, focusing on controlling them would be wise. Focusing on expanding our diplomatic Influence would be best."

I agree that diplomatic is a good idea, however the decreased AE impact from Influence, and decreased annexation cost (assuming we use vassals a lot, which isn't unlikely) will be helpful, and save us a lot of points in the end. The flexibility from breaking royal marriages is good, I think we should hold off of it for a while. Both give more diplo relations and diplo rep. Being behind time on diplo tech for a while won't hurt us much (although as we have Imperial Integrity, behind time, and an idea group, it shouldn't be too big.

[OrcusMcP]

"Becoming more Diplomatic would be useful for maintaining our powerful alliances, I agree, but I must defer to my colleague's proposal. Influence will be the key to our power.

Yeah, Influence is probably the better choice for us now and going forward. Diplomatic is worth taking another look at in 100-150 years when the number of states in the HRE has dwindled.

[Mabn]

"I concur with my colleagues, although diplomacy is dear to my heart we will need our new vassal to be loyal and capable. If you wish to stop Poland's conquests so be it."

[Akisa]

"I see, though I do admit they would probably be just as effective on individual nations, but they would lack the ability to coordinate multiple nations at once." Federick II replied some what dismayed that his proposal was rejected though was smart enough not to fight this battle as he needed everyone's support for the war.

"Moving onto other matters... Since we hold all of Duchy of Pomerania, it would be proper to for me to hold the title of Duke, but I would prefer to be the Duke of Brandenburg. So I will send delegation to Austria and the Pope to request a change of title for Pomerania Duchy to be dissolve into a Margrave, while Brandenburg be lifted to Duchy. This change will likely have little to no impact, but it is more of prestige, but I will likely have to confirm my vote for Austria for this title change to take effect. While it's my right to vote for who I wish as Prince Elector, I thought you would be first to know" Federick II continued as he wishes to boast new plan for prestige.

I originally planed for Diplomatic idea group because it gave you Extra diplomat, and relations right away. Anyway, since I'm back home, I'll probably stream a play through this Friday at 5:30pm EST.

[Akisa]

Whoops here is my twitch link (http://www.twitch.tv/kyubey_dota)

[Akisa]

Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 61 Prestige 94 Legitimacy
Game recap (http://imgur.com/a/0KimH)


Four years have passed since the last gathering of the nobles in Federick II's estate, but unlike before the climate of the meeting was a lot more relax. The two wars Brandenburg was involved in was over and the collation that was formed against Brandenburg has dissolved and thus the threat of reducing Brandenburg back into a backwater margrave was over, for now that is. Like before the Fedederick II was introduced as Duke of Brandenburg and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Emperor.


“I would like thank everyone for showing up once more, and I'm happy to announce that the collation against us has lost its motivation against us. Further more our relations with the Polish kingdom has become much more friendly. As such I propose take advantage of this relation and attack the Hansa League. The Hansa league is currently fighting a war against Burgundy and their troop reserves are heavily depleted and current relying on mercenaries. As such I propose to start a war over trade with The Hansa, now this is not going to be for territorial gain, but instead I say we want to force to release the county of Hamburg, and Saxe-Lauenburg. This way we can weaken The Hansa League without making it look like ourselves as aggressive expanders, instead we would look like someone restoring princely states in the Empire.” said Federick II as held a slightly evil grin on his face, as the thought of punishing Hansa league excited him.

[rweird]

The game recap you linked to was for last meeting, when we vassalized Pomerania.

Releasing those nations should give Austria some Imperial Authority with which it could pass the Reichsreform. I think we should support up to the Gemeiner Pfennig, but the Ewiger Landfriede would prevent wars of expansion, so unless we become Emperor, we shouldn't permit that from passing.

"Calling the Emperor into this war would lend it further authority, and lend him authority, there is talk of reforming the imperial structure, and while centralizing too much would be disadvantageous, the start would allow better communications within the Empire, and the Emperor to better protect his subjects."

[Akisa]

Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 61 Prestige 94 Legitimacy

Fixed (http://imgur.com/a/0KimH)

"Yes there is talk of some imperial reforms, but at the moment it's just talk of sharing of ideas and for the Emperor being justified for wars to return Imperial Territories. As of right now we could benefit much from the sharing of ideas especially for maritime ideas from other members" Replied Federick II as he nodded.

[Akisa]

So where is everyone else at?

[Akisa]

Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 85 Prestige 95 Legitimacy
Game recap (http://imgur.com/a/R0DPc)


It seems ever since Federick II took over the reigns of the government from his father retirement, Brandenburg was involved in constant wars. However few of the elite within Brandenburg seemed to complain as the wars Brandenburg was profitable to Brandenburg in both wealth and in land. And with the annexation of Pomerania into Brandenburg proper, the former Margrave has established itself as the dominant traders in the Baltic trading region.

Because of the prestige of the wars, Frederick II has earned the nickname 'The Iron' from members of the Holy Roman Empire. Using his new found wealth and prestige, the meeting of the nobles was moved into a new building called the Kammergericht, which also served as the Supreme Court of the land.

The room selected in the Kammergericht was a lot more spacious the previous gathering of Nobles lined with stadium seating and a podium for a speaker, and behind this podium was a throne style similar to Judge bench and two smaller booths modeled similar to witness chairs as if this was court of law. And like previous meetings, Federick II was announced by his Ducal and elector titled of Brandenburg and seating everyone once he arrived at his chair.

“I would like to welcome everyone to the first meeting of the Nobles in Kammergericht. This room is in honor of the late Count Wolfgang von Ruppin, who has help made this possible. As many of you have know the war between the Hansa league, and the Teutonic Order has been profitable in both land in coin. With control of the mouths of Oder, Vistula and Neman river estuaries we have become the leading traders in the Baltic. Further more due to our actions in liberating princes in the Empire, we have establish ourselves as not just a strong regional power, but as a just and defender of the north eastern provinces of the Empire.

We can use this position to obtain some leverage from some of the Landgrave in our immediate area. One such Landgrave is the recently freed Saxe-Lauenburg who was sacked by Hamburg. They have come seeking protection from their neighbors. We could offer them to become our vassals through some convincing. Since this would be purely diplomatic action we can afford them certain liberties that wasn't given to the former 'Duke of' Pomerania'. Such as fight for claims against fight for the new count's claims in lands outside the realm.

Speaking of Pomerania after the integration of Pomerania into Brandenburg, I offer to Margrave title of Pomerania to... Margrave Bertram Von Neumark should he accept the position he would be ruling over the Margrave of Pomerania which include the county of Vorpommern, Stettin and Hinterpommern and such he would be able to appoint counts to those lands, as well he would remain Count of Neumark.” said in a passionate tone to his voice as if giving a speech to a crowd.

The adviser who Count Wolfgang von Ruppin took over has died.

[Akisa]

Realm update

http://i.imgur.com/JkgWxm4.jpg
Date: 3 Apirl 1468

Status: Independent Holy Roman Margrave. Contains a Prince Elector
Ruler: Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Akasha)
Prince Elector(s): Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Akasha)

Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 85 Prestige 95 Legitimacy

Realm Hierarchy:

1 Duke with 1 Margrave, 11 Counties

Break down

Dutchy of Brandenburg
Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Akasha)

County of Potsdam
Title Holder: Elias von Braun (Sange)
County of Brandenburg
Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Akasha)
County of Ruppin
Title Holder: (Dead awaiting update) (Mabn)
County of Neumark
Title Holder: Bertram von Neumark
County of Mecklenburg
Title Holder: Karl von Vaal (OrcusMcP )

Margrave of Pomerania
Title Holder: Margrave Betram Von Neumark

County of Vorpommern
County of Stettin
County of Hinterpommern

Disputed territory Dutchy of West Prussia
Disputed by Brandenburg, Poland and Teutontic Order

County of Danzig (Brandenburg)
Title Holder: Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Akasha)

Disputed Territory of East Prussia
Disputed by Brandenburg, Teutonic Order, Livonian order and Lithuania

County of Ermland
County of Ostpreussen


Advisers:
Adm: Bernhard Siegmun ... (+1 Tax adviser)
Dip: Joachim Hector Brisen (NPC +1 Better Relations Over Time)
Mil: Joachim Nestor ...(+1 Reinforce Speed)

[Akisa]

Posted in wrong thread

[rweird]

Count Bertram Von Neumark is now quite old, having just turned 71 a month ago. He makes his way slowly too his seat, using a cane, not for style, but support. He sits surprised by this startling pronouncement for several moments. "I… um…" he stutters for a moment, before pausing and regaining his composure. "I accept your generous offer gracious Prince. I support the attempt to diplomatically vassalize Saxe-Launeburg, and I believe we should consider peace for a time. While we have been successful in these wars, they have not been without casualties, these wars have depleted our manpower, and despite the justification in our later wars, I imagine we have expanded fast enough to make our neighbors worried. They may be making agreements to try to slow our expansion in secret."

Burgundy has a -1, -1, -1 regency? Strange…

Should the counts by non-voting NPCs at the moment or what?

I also plan on dying in the next intermission, I only just now realized how old Bertram has grown.

What is our max manpower? I think we should wait a bit, let manpower recover, nationalism and autonomy tick down, and AE to burn off.

[Akisa]

Court of the Royal Eagle
Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 85 Prestige 95 Legitimacy

"I agree, grow a bit weary of war, though I still believe we should honor alliances call to arms. We should look to mimic some of the developments in agriculture that some of our neighbors perfected. We should begin having our serfs experiment with rotating three types of crops oppose to two. Afterwards we could perhaps look to fund some temples through out the realm to ease some tension between the papacy and ourselves" the Duke added as he stroked his chin.

Yeah I find it strange that Burgandy still have non HRE provinces but their capital still got moved to HRE. What do you mean "should the counts by not voting npc"?

As for manpower we're at 10,872 out of 17,980 (likely increase as Autonomy decrease). Our Force limits for army is 11/13 (10 Infantry and 1 Cavalry). Navy is 11/14 (7 Trade ships, 3 galleys and 1 transport.) Here is link total breakdown (http://i.imgur.com/6IHEoRO.jpg). I agree we could also build some temples after teching up admin to level 6 to raise force limits up bit. I'm looking to stream once more at Wednesday 5:30 EST and Friday 5:30EST.

[rweird]

I mean, what is done with the new counts? Do we find players for them, have people take on additional roles, or leave them NPCs that don't do anything until someone comes to play them.

[Akisa]

For now basically nobles that don't do anything would be best. They would be from the Neutral planet! Effectively a background character

[Mabn]

Albrecht looked around at his fellow counselors apparently deep in thought for some time. "So, when do you become emperor?"

[Akisa]

Court of the Royal Eagle
Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 85 Prestige 95 Legitimacy

Federick II blinked for a moment unsure how to respond to the count. "I don't foresee myself becoming Emperor anytime soon. While we're strong member in the empire, there is still some stronger nations outside the empire. We are nowhere near strong enough to fend off the French, so it's best for Austria to remain as the Emperor who has the levees and the coin to support an army that can defend everyone in the Empire from the outside" replied Federick with slight annoyed tone to his voice as he was forced admit his Brandenburg was up to par.

[Akisa]

I'm now Live on twitch (http://www.twitch.tv/kyubey_dota) for the game

[Akisa]

Court of the Royal Eagle
Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 32 Prestige 100 Legitimacy
Game recap (http://imgur.com/a/BhfHM)


It was a somber mood in the gathering of the nobles as this was the first time Brandenburg has been defeated under Federick II's reign. The Duke found himself relying on mercenaries as Brandenburg's manpower reserves were largely depleted. The war seemed to take a toll on the aging duke as after being introduced he slowly walked to his seat and took a moment to ask everyone to be seated.

“Thank you for coming today, as you many you have know the war did not go as well as planned. While our realm largely remained intact, our coffers, manpower and alliances are largely depleted. Although we must appear strong as not to draw the wrath of other nations much stronger nations. I motion while we still have a mercenary army we attack The Hansa League for Lübeck should they peace out of their war of defending Bremen” the Duke said somewhat angry tone to voice as he knew that this decision would be an unpopular one, and needed an excuse to appear strong and prevent his nation from falling under a union between either France or Austria.

[Mabn]

Albrecht began to laugh. "Are mad? You conceded a war because even your mercenaries were near destruction so that now, without allies you could start another? I did not appraise you ambition incorrectly. Well by all means do so; my men are dead, maybe you can win and atone for that."

[Akisa]

Court of the Royal Eagle
Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 32 Prestige 100 Legitimacy

"The Hansa are without strong allies, and our enemies are currently under a truce. The Hansa and their only ally a Landgrave who also have no troops and are currently being occupied as well. It would be as simple as marching troops onto the town of Lübeck and the surrounding areas. Further more it wouldn't be our own men that would be besieging the county. This is war for our image to be still viewed as a strong nation." Federick II replied as he held back his temper from the laughter made by a count who has began to laugh at his proposal.

[rweird]

Otto von Neumark seems uncomfortable among the more experienced counts. He speaks, quietly, and timidly. "My worry is that others will not see this as a show of strength, but of opportunistic aggression even when in no real position to do so, and a coalition may for to deliver a more permanent defeat." Looking around for a moment he hastily adds "But I shall submit to my liege's wisdom."

I worry that without alliances, 36 aggressive expansion from taking Lübeck might trigger a coalition which could easily defeat us, Austria not being able to help, being embroiled in a war with France. Then again, this is a good opportunity to seize control of the Lübeck node, and it is a very good province, and where's the fun in always playing it safe?

[OrcusMcP]

Karl von Vaal, an older man, wiser and depleted, rose to speak.

"Long have I fought for action against the Hanseatic merchants, and if we must risk the wrath of the emperor in order to eliminate their threat then I say so be it. But It must be made clear, my Liege, that we do not suffer the indignity of having our levees and treasure depleted in these vainglorious excursions quietly. I and my fellow Lords must be compensated for our service. No more land can be put under the control of the crown until Brandenburg holds the Imperial chair."

[Akisa]

"While I feel your pain Count Karl Von Vaal, but we are not quiet not large enough to properly defend the empire from outside threats. Further more each state pays a fix amount of coin and men to the Emperor. By expanding more we lessening the burden for each count in our realm. To put it simply if a count who only holds one county had to pay 30 Ducats and 30 men to the Emperor, and if that same count procure another county, that same count would only still have to 30 ducats and 30 men to Emperor, and thus each county in that realm would only have to pay 15 ducats and 15 men. So by expanding each individual count in our realm would pay a reduce rate. So If we expand large enough it can get to the point where each count could contribute negligible amount of men and coin to Emperor, and only than we should look to challenge the imperial throne. Which is why after we have taken Ermland and Ostpreussen your own individual levies and coin tax to the emperor was reduced.

If it put your mind to ease the Danish King is old, and his heir is unlikely to maintain their unions. But I am old myself and with no official heir, we can find ourselves even more under the thumb of the Austrian court. And due to the current political climate the French would challenge that authority and we could find ourselves in war with France who could than force us to become a vassal. However should I die in admits a war, by imperial law a noble lord with imperial immanency would have to be placed on the throne, which means Brandenburg would still be free." Federick II responded as he tried to quiet the court room as the prospect of another war was already looming and has shifted to calm their nerves.

[Akisa]

Live now (http://www.twitch.tv/kyubey_dota) I guess after this session I'll make a OOC thread for stuff like OOC talk

[Akisa]

Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 44 Prestige 100 Legitimacy
Game Recap (http://imgur.com/a/2Dxhh)

While the War with the Hansa was quickly and decisively finished Federick II was unsure the climate would be, as the war itself was unpopular and worse of all he installed a war tax to help pay the debit. While he had hope the tax relief and repayment would quell their wrath, he also launched another war without consorting the House of Nobles. While this was a war many of them have lobbied for he was still unsure how they would respond. As result while walking with a cane, Federick II still hurried towards his seat before allowing the others to sit.

“I would like to welcome everyone to the 1478 Gathering of the Nobles. First I would like to apologize for not discussing the declaration of war on the Teutonic Order. As many you have keep reminding me it was Brandenburg's Mission to connect the Prussian lands to Brandenburg and with the Polish declaring a subjugation war on the Teutonic Order immediate action was needed. For if the Poles control the Order as a vassal they would have a rightful claim to our Prussian lands. Not to mention connecting our Prussian Territory would also mean war with Poland which is something we wish to avoid. So I took the opportunity to conduct this war when it presented itself, to avoid a much larger war with Poland should we continue our pursuit of connecting the Prussian lands. So I would like approval to move in our levies into Teutonic Order to relieve some of the extra mercenary forces in Prussia to continue the sieges” Spoke Federick II in his past confident tone of voice trying to convince the nobles into accepting his new war to relieve the strain of hiring more mercenaries to conduct the sieges.


Some mercenaries were hired to do the sieges on Teutonic Order provinces, so gold is being drained. Reason is being I don't know if support would be done for the war, despite it being a mission.

OOC of the game (www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?411589-Court-of-the-Royal-Eagle-ooc&p=19161809)

[rweird]

Clever giving it to Saxe-Lunenburg to not get AE, I wonder when they changed that, or were we using Saxe's CB all along?

Also, a 5/5/6 heir is great.

"First, allow me to congratulation our liege on the birth of his heir, Johan. I consent to your use of my remaining levies to do this, for the best of the nation, however, this would mean that my forces which are already strained in their attempt to stop the smugglers and pirates would have to all but abandon their work."

[Akisa]

Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 44 Prestige 100 Legitimacy

"Why thank you, my son is growing up quiet well. As for the smuggler we can turn our attention to the Teutonic Order for the time being. As smugglers turned from arms to food or trade goods with East Prussia largely caught in a war and or quarantined. Well in addition to the war, we should look to expand what our national idea of what our country represent. I recommend we should promote defense, most of our victories was conducted when we let our enemies come to us. By promoting the idea of fighting for their homes the moral of our troops would climb, along with making prepared defenses would make invading our realm become costly to the enemy." replied Federick II as he breathed a shy of relief as at least he has his biggest supporter still with him and wanted to add something else to the agenda.

Actually since it's our vassal we still get the aggressive expansion. But because we improve relations with everyone around us and the fact that people still had Hansa as rivals when attacked made it nearly inconsequential. As for the CB, we used our vassal which reduced AE and as along as everyone who is above 30 AE still has positive relations with us they won't join a collation.

[Akisa]

Federick II Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 3 Administration, 3 Diplomacy 2 Military. 62 Prestige 98 Legitimacy
Recap
(http://imgur.com/a/bhFrA)

With the elimination of the Teutonic Order, and the humiliation of the Livinan Order Brandenburg seemed to project an aura of power in the Baltic Sea. Brandenburg was quickly becoming a power house in the North. But Brandenburg was still surrounded by other powers that it had to be weary of and its most successful ruler is currently aging and heir was still under age. Brandenburg has recently removed its mercenary armies in favor of standing levy army and thus leaving a low manpower reserves. The 69 year old slowly walked with a cane back to chair in a joyful manner not seen since the first victory over the former order. Once again after sitting down Federick II asked everyone to sit down before pausing for a moment as if to gather his thought.


“Welcome back gentlemen, we're at a bit of a cross roads at the moment. With the recent conquest of the Teutonic Order we have become somewhat of a regional power in the north. But we should look to the future build a galley force that can rival the Danish or another nation who creeps into the Baltic. This will allow us to protect our emerging trade in the Baltic. Mind you we shouldn't go to war just yet as our manpower reserves are a bit low, this is strictly deter any naval powers like the Danes from attacking us or or trade.

Now matter for the Duchies in Prussia, we should look to decrease the local autonomy of the region for punishment for their failed rebellion. Support for the rebellion has dwindled and better support larger Army and Navy” Said Federick II with an enthusiastic tone to his voice as this is the first time not talking about war.

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 54 Prestige 100 Legitimacy
Recap (http://imgur.com/a/ROMeT)

It was a cold April day as the first Gathering of the Nobles John Von Hohenzollern as he recent taken the throne of the only a few weeks ago relieving the Regency council. Dressed in an officer's uniform and standing five foot ten inches despite being only 15 years of age. John with a serious expression on his face as he walked towards his seat and quickly sat down as soon as he reached his seat.
“Please be seated... Good Morning, I John Von Hohenzollern would like to welcome you to the Gathering of the Nobles, I trust your trip was uneventful. First I would like to open, that I am requesting declaration of war against the Livonian order. This is not simply me trying to prove myself, but it is because they're currently diplomatically isolated as its neighbors are either outright hostile or insignificant as the case of Riga who are its only ally. Furthermore after a war with Novgorod and Lithuania their manpower reserves was are also exhausted.

Second matter is I would like to request the ability to take out some loans to rapidly expand the size of our military as we begin to legitimized claims that the county of Kirkland is in fact part of Eastern Prussia. This is something we must act quickly, as the Muscovites also look to acquire the lands of the Livonian order. And if we act quickly enough we can create a buffer state between ourselves and Muscovy by making the order as a vassal. By making Livonian order a vassal we can protect our women and children from the oppressive Muscovite who look to forcibly kill or force their heretic ways upon them as they're get placed to 'work' for their country” John spoke out with passionate speech trying to convince the council into war.

[rweird]

"I agree that further eastward expansion is in our interest. However, I do not believe that going into debt is. We need to be self sufficient. That land is poor, and will be slow to pay for itself, it'd help us in the short-term, but in the longterm, would be more costly than relying on our own coffers. Our armies should be sufficient."

[Mabn]

"If the Livonian Order have no men left our's would seem sufficient. If they do have reserves our available manpower may be better spent enduring mutual attrition than forming new regiments we cannot sustain."

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 83 Prestige 100 Legitimacy
(Game Recap (imgur.com/a/F95GM))

With a swift victory against the Livinan Order and the popularity of John with the army of Brandenburg doubts of the ability of the Duke to command the rapidly expanded nation were slowly starting erode away. With nearly replenished reserves of men and a healthy economy slowed the expansion of the military in favor to continue naval arms race with Denmark.

John Von Hohenzollern once more arrived to the Gathering of the Nobles on April 15 1493 dressed in his military officer uniform, but this time seemed to have grown to a towering 6 foot 9 inches and showed a much stronger aura of confidence after his first successful war finally putting to practice his strategies for war. As he walked to his chair walked with stern face on with no hint of a smile just a strong determine look on his face. It was only once he after he had sat down everyone that a hint of a smile entered his face.

“Welcome everyone back to the 1493 Gathering of the Nobles. The road is open to where we can expand to. We can attempt to claim the weaken throne of Bohemia but in doing so we will anger our allies, including the reestablished Polish alliance. But we can attack the Danes who sent repeated diplomatic insults, and waging a war against Burgundy and her allies. Reports of Austria wishing to return Holstein the Holy Roman Empire could find itself quickly surrounded by enemies and our autonomous vassal Saxe-Lauenburg also seems to wish territory in Holstein” John spoke out loud as if he was trying to guide the decision to war with Denmark, while at the same time make it seem it would be Nobles choice for war.

[Mabn]

"How sit our Swedish friends?"

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 83 Prestige 100 Legitimacy

"The Swedes would attack from the north against the Danes. As for Bohemia it is unlikely they view our alliance as a defensive one."

[Mabn]

"Then a war against Denmark seems quite effective."

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 80 Prestige 100 Legitimacy
Game recap (http://imgur.com/a/MWBuc)



With much of the nobles in agreement of attacking Denmark, John Von Hohenzollern quickly attacked Brandenburg, but also found himself being dragged into a war against Muscovy a short time later. While the peace treaty with Denmark was quickly settled to allow the war against Muscovy to be the main focus.

And perhaps because of the war against Muscovy the gathering of the Nobles was slightly delayed. But what hasn't changed was that John continued to attend the Gathering of the Nobles in his officer's uniform and promptly sat his nobles down.


“I would like to thank everyone for returning to the Gathering of the Nobles of 1498. As many of you aware, we are currently at war with Muscovy and the previous war with Denmark was hastily settled. Nevertheless the past few years was very profitable one and we should look to reinvest some of that ducats into building temples in the realm.

Now for a bit more controversial topic, the Landgrave of Hamburg's only alliance is with Madgeburg another Landgrave. We can use the Saxe-Lauenburg's claim to press the war as we must act quickly as Hamburg could regain its territory and while we're still at war with Muscovy, Austria can't claim Saxe-Lauenburg's owning Hamburg would be unlawful held until it's fully incorporated into their realm and thus unable to claim unlawful territory. As for the war with Muscovy, it is unlikely we would gain much territory from Muscovy, it would likely be the return of previously lost territories and perhaps a few minor county exchange. And since we managed to blunted Muscovy's initiative to the point the English was able to reinforce Sweden's army and thus it is extremely unlikely that Muscovy would be able to change the momentum of the war. Thus the factor of being at war with Muscovy should not be a factor with attacking Hamburg. And our reputation in the north and our diplomatic corps can use their propaganda techniques to make the war just or unwilling to form a collation” John Von Hohenzollern said with passionate tone to his voice trying to convince the crowd to attack Hamburg as their alliance with Sweden and Burgundy has ended.

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 84 Prestige 100 Legitimacy
Game Recap (http://imgur.com/a/CyzT8)

With the war with Muscovy and the largely non debated war with Hamburg was over, Brandenburg found itself once again in a unique position. Brandenburg was quickly becoming a great power rather than just a regional power and seemed to be well received who applaud John Von Hohenzollern, and Federick II Von Hohenzollern as liberators than warmonger and at worst giving false applause. As before John Von Hohenzollern entered the room after being announced dressed in his officer uniform and quickly sat down in his seat.


“I would like to welcome everyone to the 1503 Gathering of the Nobles. We're at a crossroad at the moment, we're being seen as liberators returning land back into the Empire or like in the past restore Imperial Immediacy. While our manpower reserves are below what we would like, I do believe we should continue look to expand. But there are other ways to expand we could look to ignore the diplomatic insult from Thuringia and seek to make them our vassal. Through some bribing and applying some political pressure, and some promises of territorial returns we maybe able to convince Thuringia as an autonomous vassal. Failing that there are other Landgraves with a bit less potential to expand such as Magdeburg or Laurinburg who don't have much claims to other counties.” John Von Hohenzollern spoke out to the Nobles as promises of peace can come about later.

[rweird]

"Annexing Saxe-Lunenburg will upset other princes, however, I think that we can afford to offend them. Peaceful expansion at the moment is desirable. Our manpower is low from these wars, and we are in debt. I would recommend repaying all our debts before we launch another war. In the mean time, working to vassalize Thuringia diplomatically would not be costly monetarily or militarily, but would take the effort of our diplomats for some time."

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 84 Prestige 100 Legitimacy


John nods in agreement as he was planning to do so, though pauses as he waited for him to finish. "While I do agree we should pay the loans off before we go to war once more, but we should hold off on paying the loan just yet. By not paying the loans off right now we can make it seem to our allies we not ready for war and won't drag us to wasteful wars like the Bohemian Hungary war." John added hoping to hold off on paying the loan to avoid offensive wars started by allies.

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 83 Prestige 95 Legitimacy
Game recap (http://imgur.com/a/3Y5Ri)

With Brandenburg's rapid expansion and the incorporation of Saxe-Lauenburg, Brandenburg has become one of the moth wealthiest nations in the known world. As result a few nations even allies seemed to have started maneuvering some checks against Brandenburg. As result Brandenburg was forced to enter war to prevent several of these checks. While these wars were remarkably small and contained, the war has eroded some of the good standing within the Empire.

Once more John entered the Gathering of the Nobles in his Officer uniform and sat down everyone once he had reached his chair.

“Welcome back to the 1508 Gathering of the Nobles, first I would like to apologize for the sudden war with Saxony, but it was done to prevent a maneuvers the Polish seemed to be attempting to halt any southern expansion or in the worst case scenario a perpetration for war against us providing another front. The war with Saxony was in effect to sabotage what Poland was planning if it was nefariously towards us. On second set of news, I would like a moment of Silence for our head diplomat and Margrave of Pomerania who died shortly ago.” Said John opened just before bowing his head and closing his eye to provide a moment of silence.


“Now for what's on the agenda, I propose we look to secure our northern shores and attack the Danish once more with their armies fighting Friesland, and look to weaken the stranglehold of the Sound toll. We currently have a superior naval force by our selves and the Swedes can provide their navy as well. But after the war we should look to see expand our national ideas. I hear by recommend we promote the national idea of becoming a Humanist ideas focusing on tolerance and acceptance. This would help improve our image within the Empire, and make our nation much more stable as there would be less bickering with Prussian, Saxons, Hanoverian or even the Romans. This promotion of tolerance could have same level of benefits of bringing in new ideas and thinking much to the several improvements the Roman have given us. Another benefit of promoting tolerance is that people would generally find less reasons to rebel and make our realm much more stable” John added after the pause as wish to promote his idea of tolerance

Going to post a realm update soon.

[Mabn]

"I have always been a supporter of the humanist movement, but it would be time consuming to foster it while militarily annexing territory. Keeping the Danes weak is prudent, but I do not see what we have to gain."

[rweird]

Frederick only had just arrived the previous night, trying to take over rule from his father, and managing his funeral was exhausting. He is hesitant to speak to the great Duke of Brandenburg, who his father had served well and faithfully, he felt that he was not ready to step into his father's shoes. Wanting to make an impression, but still nervous, he speaks, rather quietly and timidly. "This is certainly true, the Empire is diverse culturally, we should promote harmony between them. We all are servants of God." While Frederick opposes the proposed war with the Danes, he does not have the courage to speak out as the youngest member of the gathering, so he bites his tongue.

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 83 Prestige 95 Legitimacy

"Attacking the Danes could allow us to eventually remove them from the Continent and expand outside of the Empire at the same time. Not to mention this war could be viewed as a defense for Friesland in which Austria has failed to respond to call to arms. If we carefully manage the war, we could carefully arrange for political victory as much as military victory restoring our good name in the Empire" John said responding to the question of attacking the Danes would be worthwhile.

[Mabn]

"That would be worthwhile."

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 92 Prestige 100 Legitimacy
Game recap
(http://imgur.com/a/BOsFJ)

While the war with Denmark was quiet successful, the broken alliance with Sweden seemed to disturbed. Nevertheless John Von Hohenzollern still had a country to run and now to worry about the entire northern borders. But with shock of the betrayal has mostly settled down, John still wish to avoid conversations about his cousin in the north. And arriving the gathering of the nobles of 1513 was still somewhat visibly angry as he quickly sat down in his chair.

“I would like to welcome everyone back to the Gathering of the Nobles of 1513. While we lost an important ally in the north, we shouldn't be be caught up with petty squabbles. We own one of the world largest navy to keep Swedish from our main land and if they wish to attack us directly they would have to march from from their Finnish holdings loosing any surprise and allowing us to assemble and counter a fatigued army. But at the at the same time launching an amphibious assault into their lands would be time consuming and a logistical challenge.

Or we could attack the Muscovite and deal with the harsh winter in the area and their armies out number us. As for Lithuania our relations are not of best of terms, they are allied with both Austria and Poland, thus attacking them would be sacrificing our alliances. With all those daunting road blocks, what I suggest is we look to expand southward closer to the heart in the Empire. This would solve any logistical problems we may have and quickly resupply our army. However the biggest hurdle is with relations with other princes in the Empire, we would have to go about it in a slow and calculated manner, never taking too much land.

But there is a third option, and deceptively clever and devious. We can look to expand into East Frisia and than look to make the collapsed nation state of Munster. We can than restore their previous borders as a vassal under guise of restoring their lands which was taken away from them in their punitive wars. But at the same time we should look to incorporate our Estonia automated vassal to better administer their lands and free up our diplomats. Speaking of our diplomats, we should also look into funding embassies to make the task of our diplomats easier and allow managing more official alliances or manage automated vassals.” Said John Von Hohenzollern after standing to deliver his speech and once his speech was done he quickly adjusted his officer uniform collar and sat back down in his chair.


Sorry for late update, next update will be Friday

[Mabn]

Count Albrecht arrived at the court tired from a night riding in. Matters at his holdings had delayed him almost to his being late. "At present what nations are in with Poland or the Livonians?"

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 92 Prestige 100 Legitimacy

"As of this morning our diplomats have told me that Poland is currently officially allied with ourselves, Bavaria Lithuania and currently aiding the Bosnia in a war against Venice; whom Austria is also aiding. As for Lithuania they currently ally Sweden, Austria, Poland and a Caucasus country by the name of Georgia." John quickly replied as if he had memorized the web of alliances.

[Mabn]

"Is there any reason we could not take war to the Livonian order with the aim to eventually punish Sweden's betrayal by land?"

[rweird]

"I erm… believe that the Livonians are the estonian autonomous vassal the Duke mentioned before. I believe that if war with Sweden is necessary, we have sufficient resources to conduct it navally, however, your Frisia proposition sounds more promising. We also should try to incorporate the Livonian territory. Your proposed idea of an Embassy seems like it would be good to achieve these aims. We have established ourselves as a large enough power that meetings and agreements with other states would grow more common."

Isn't the Livonian order already our vassal. Who are Sweden's allies? Personally, I think we should rival them.

Also, what is our current army/navy (with unit type breakdown), force limit, manpower, and max manpower? I want to get an idea of how strong we are compared to other nations. Screenshotting the ledger to show who else is near us in these ways might be good.

[Mabn]

ah. I really was wondering where they where.

[Akisa]

"As for taking the war to Sweden by land, we can already accomplish that task through our Automated Vassal the Livonian Order. Sweden currently has allies with the English and Lithuania, it's war that would be very costly and very little to gain."

Here current ledger and our force breakdown. (http://imgur.com/a/ih7K4)

[rweird]

"In that case Frisia seems to be our best option for our next moves."

Saxony doesn't have any cores to be fed, we're just waiting to be able to diplo-annex them?

[Akisa]

Saxony doesn't have any cores to be fed, and can't be annexed until we have a core near by, or another vassal near by.

[Akisa]

Going to be live on twitch (http://www.twitch.tv/kyubey_dota) again soon

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 98 Prestige 100 Legitimacy
Gamerecap (http://imgur.com/a/rwqzj)

Slightly delayed from the recent wars with the minor states in the Gathering of the nobles of 1518 was pushed back towards the 10th of August. Despite the wars wars bringing in large swath of territory into the realm, the moves were generally unopposed, as many view the land as legitimately belonging to the Bishopric of Munster. Once more the Duke entered the room with his officer uniform and promptly walked towards his seat and quickly sat everyone down.

“Welcome everyone to the 1518 Gathering of the Nobles, there is much to discuss this time around as there several uncertainties looming about. There is a large religious movement claiming The Church is corrupt, and since this movement is sponsored by various states it could become one of the largest religious movements since the Islamic heathens in the south. We should be thread carefully, but at the same time, we can use this religious movement to our advantage. Brandenburg has become quiet powerful, and certainty eclipse our neighbors namely the Kingdom of Bohemia. As such I will attempt seek approval to elevate Brandenburg from Duchy to a Kingdom, we would need to get approval from the Papacy and the Emperor. Normally such as request would largely be ignored, but since the recent religious turmoil we might be afforded certain liberties.

Talks of kingdom aside, we should continue our campaigns of restoring our Bishopric of Munster. There are still a few counties held mostly by Landgrafs that officially belonged to the Bishopric and should continued to be incorporated. Other than that we should look to towards improving relations with our neighbors, specifically the Emperor” Said John with similar tone to his earlier speeches of passionate fervor.

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 90 Prestige 100 Legitimacy
Game recap (http://imgur.com/a/Il9W6)

While Brandenburg has started to slow down in its reconquest for its Bishopric, there are still lands to be reclaimed for Munster, but at the same time the wars were becoming unpopular within the Empire. Nevertheless it is France that has attracted much attention with its recent conquest of Burgundy's lands. While the collation grows larger against France, Austria request aid from Brandenburg for its conquest a fellow member of the Empire. But at the same time France as been sending diplomats to improve relations

John Von Hohenzollern quickly entered and sat down once he entered the room, but decided to take a short break to take a sip of water before speaking.

“I would like to welcome everyone back to the gathering of the Noble. I apologize for the constant wars and event the war against the various minor states in the empire, and now with Austria's territorial conquest. I know while controversial we may look to join the collation that is forming against the French.

While we weren't in the best of terms with Burgundy, France does hold several territory that is rightfully considered to be part of the Empire. By returning these territory to the Empire, we can strength our case of elevating Brandenburg into a kingdom which is still on debate. And if we can become a kingdom I or future Kings could give out higher titles such as the title of Duke.”

Sorry for late delay, stuff has been hectic. Anyway next update will go up next Sunday, due to time constraint.

[rweird]

"I am sorry, my attention has been focused inside the realm, but who are France's allies? If we join a coalition against them, knowing the extent our enemy will be prepared."

How does England have the highest Force Limit in the game?

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 90 Prestige 100 Legitimacy

"It seems that Swiss, Milan and Tuscany are aligned with the French, not the strongest of alliance. It's no wonder why they appear to be attempting befriend our court.

As for England's force limit here is the break down.
Base Value: 3
From Provinces: 37.9
Mercenary pool: 18
Increased Offense:+25%

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (Duke)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 95 Prestige 100 Legitimacy
Gamerecap (http://imgur.com/a/9Z59E)

With the war with the French now over Brandenburg once again was praised by Austria and held a friendly attitude and as the war brought about prestige and profit allowing Brandenburg to spur construction and investment in its land. However the war it self was costly in other ways, it drained the reverses of men looking to defend the fledgling duchy, and war itself took a heavy burden on the Duke as he aged quite noticeably when compared a short 5 years ago. John moved with a much slower pace than before as he reached his seat and took a short pause he looked around the crowd of nobles.

“I would like to welcome everyone back to the gathering of the nobles for the year of 1528. I would like thank everyone for the support against the French and showing the French government that they can't push into the Lowlands without repercussion. However for the time being we should look to recover our reserves and focus on more diplomatic task.

After war with France we can look to convince the a few of the minor states come into our fold. Namely the Wuzburg who may look to other nations to protect them from future Austrian attacks. While at the same time through with some careful bribes we could convince the Bishopric and citing example of how Munster prospered under our rule. Though speaking of Munster we should look to incorporate the Bishopric of Munster into our fold and dilute the influence of the church in the region.

On other news the Hapsburg will support our elevation to a Kingdom but we must first get approval of the Holy See. However at this moment in time the Papacy has denied our request, and the foreseeable future they will continued to deny our request. Even the threat of supporting the Bohemian Hersey has not providing the proper leverage, and they cite that the tenants of the either English or Bohemian faith. Needless to say if Brandenburg becomes a Kingdom, I could provide ducal titles through out the realm especially in the will to be former Bishopric” Said John pausing every so often in his usual passionate speech tone that he has become known for.

For story purposes I may use console command to spawn Reformed center when the 15 year mark occurs (which is about 2 years from now).

[Mabn]

Count Albrecht, at the council on time for once and visibly out of shape from years of indulgence sat in visible thought. "I have mentioned before my support of humanism, and my distance from the church is known. Having a local religious policy that didn't fight against me would be worth the effort. I approve of any efforts to bring the bishoprics under our sway and any moves you make towards loosening Rome's grip."

[rweird]

"I'm afraid it is true that Rome is a nest of corruption, and has demonstrated that it is not worthy of leading us. While tolerance is key, we should try to sever our ties with Rome."

[Akisa]

John Von Hohenzollern (King)
Stats 5 Administration, 6 Diplomacy 6 Military. 16 Prestige 100 Legitimacy
Game Recap (http://imgur.com/a/Qcui2)

The elevation of Prussia to a Kingdom has left many people in the realm wondering why Prussia was elevated oppose to Brandenburg proper. This has lead to some initial strife with a few of the nobles mainly the Barons, and perhaps a count or two mainly in the core region of Brandenburg. However those who have know about the negotiations of elevation of Prussia know the political landmine. In fact John Von Hohenzollern is officially not allowed to be called King of Prussia, and instead has to refer to himself as King in Prussia.

Nevertheless with the integration of Munster, Magdeburg and war reparations France is forced to pay for, Prussia has become one of the most wealthiest nations. Many scholars suspect Prussia to be the third most wealthiest nation.


Nevertheless the aging King approached his chair and promptly sat down and quietly look upon the crowd before speaking up. “I would like to thank everyone to this year's gathering of the nobles. I know many you of have concerns with the reforms with the clergy and the elevation of the Prussia. The elevation of Prussia was necessary as it was the prominent region of the realm that was firmly outside of the Empire. By firmly elevating the region nation could officially become a Kingdom.

On the following agenda about War, we should also look to avoid any offensive wars as our reserves is not fully restored. Instead we should work on our relations with rest of the members of the Empire, as many of the princes of the Empire don't look favorably with our integration of Munster and Magdeburg. We should look to calm the nerves of other princes, mainly the Emperor in Austria.“ Said John Von Hohenzollern with his familiar passionate speech tone.

[rweird]

Frederick was quick to adopt the Johnist theology, and became one of its most avid supporters. "Yes, additionally, we should work to spread the true faith. While tolerance is a virtue, we are commanded to spread God's words, and we must give the misguided Catholics a chance to convert."