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Anthrowhale
2015-04-23, 07:33 PM
There seems to be disagreement about how Selective Spell and Antimagic Field (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/antimagicField.htm) interact. For review, Selective Spell states:

You can modify an area spell so that it does not affect one designated creature within it's area.

In the following, assume a medium size Paladin 2/wizard casts Selective Spell[self] Antimagic Field.


Does the wraith sharing the same space as the wizard "wink out"?
Does the wizard's headband of intellect+4 (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#headbandofIntellect) continue to provide a +4 enhancement bonus to Intelligence?
Does the wizard's Divine Grace continue to work?
Does the wizard's precast Bear's Endurance (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/bearsEndurance.htm) continue to provide a +4 enhancement bonus to Constitution?
Presuming that the AMF survives a Disjunction with a center 20' distant, does the headband of Intellect+4 need to save against the Disjunction?
Can the wizard cast spells? If so:

Would Cat's Grace (www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/catsGrace.htm) cast by the wizard be suppressed when applied to the wizard?
Would Cat's Grace (www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/catsGrace.htm) cast by the wizard be suppressed when applied to an ally in the AMF in an adjacent space?
Would Cat's Grace (www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/catsGrace.htm) cast by the wizard be suppressed when applied to an ally 20' away?



My understanding is that some people understand this as essentially equivalent to Archmage (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/prestigeClasses/archmage.htm) mastery of shaping removing AMF from the wizard's space, in which case the answers are:


No
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes.

No.
Yes.
No.




However, several of these answers appear wrong for Selective Spell, because Selective Spell does not change the area of effect. In particular:


Yes. Selective spell does not change the area of effect, so
...incorporeal undead wink out if they enter an antimagic field.
No. I've changed my mind on this one after study. Selective Spell does not change the area of effect so
... it prevents the functioning of any magic items ... within its confines.
Yes. Innate supernatural abilities are inseperable from you and hence continue to function so long as they only affect you. (However, dragon breath would be suppressed within the normal area of the AMF.)
No. Selective Spell does not change the area of effect so
An antimagic field suppresses any spell ... used within... the area...
No. Selective Spell does not change the area of effect so
An antimagic field suppresses any spell ... used within... the area...
Yes. Spell casting is innate to the wizard and hence not affected by AMF as per Selective Spell.

Yes. see 4.
Yes.
No.



Is there a RAW basis for disagreeing with the above?

Crake
2015-04-23, 08:50 PM
Quick note: DR that is bypassed by a type of metal or damage type is Ex DR, so DR 5/cold iron would work regardless in an antimagic field. Only magic, epic, or alignment based DRs are Su, and ones with multiple components only have their alignment based DR removed (sometimes making them harder to bypass, in the case of say, DR/cold iron or good, it merely becomes DR cold iron, reducing your options in half)

Edit: But other than that, the rest of all that is how i run selective AMF, so looks good

Anthrowhale
2015-04-23, 09:49 PM
DR that is bypassed by a type of metal or damage type is Ex DR

Thanks, I switched this to Divine Grace.


Edit: But other than that, the rest of all that is how i run selective AMF, so looks good

Cool.

Anthrowhale
2015-04-25, 08:44 PM
I was expecting more response from advocates of alternate views, but perhaps the above represents the other view well and settles things. (If not, I am genuinely curious about other views.)