Mastaziel
2015-05-17, 05:52 PM
So, as I level the value and quality of Loot goes up. But there are times when I get that value in low denominations, and every copper adds weight. Bags of holding are great, but still max out after a long crawl with alot of copper and heavy valuable Loot.
Note: I'm playing a Dwarf, with Greed as a domain. In the past he spent 3-4 game days, slowly removing 100gp pearls from the top of a Sarcophagus. So leaving even a single copper behind goes against his world view. Another PC uses copper coins to attempt to incite responses from traps and possible hidden monsters. After the coast is clear, my character always pockets the coin.
Also, I currently have a clone. So if I die, I don't want to lose accumulated loot as well as my gear. (Though looking at getting my gear set up with a contingency, too Teleport Object/s if I die or something).
The Point: I had the idea of a Ring Gate, set up in a moving ceiling. The ceiling would move the Ring Gate from vault to vault. Each vault would have guardians, and/or inhospitable environment. Pour Loot in until the vault is full, and trigger the ceiling to move to the next vault ready to be filled.
Problem: But Ring Gates can only move 100lbs/day, at a range of 100 miles.
Ring Gates
These always come in pairs—two iron rings, each about 18 inches in diameter. The rings must be on the same plane of existence and within 100 miles of each other to function. Whatever is put through one ring comes out the other, and up to 100 pounds of material can be transferred each day. (Objects only partially pushed through and then retracted do not count.) This useful device allows for instantaneous transport of items or messages, and even attacks. A character can reach through to grab things near the other ring, or even stab a weapon through if so desired. Alternatively, a character could stick his head through to look around. A spellcaster could even cast a spell through a ring gate. A Small character can make a DC 13 Escape Artist check to slip through. Creatures of Tiny, Diminutive, or Fine size can pass through easily. Each ring has a "entry side" and an "exit side," both marked with appropriate symbols.
Strong conjuration; CL 17th; Craft Wondrous Item, gate; Price 40,000 gp; Weight 1 lb. each.
I could teleport myself out of the location and stash my Loot. And other than dungeons that may be dimensionally locked, that'd work. But stopping mid crawl, to pop home to have tea and crumpets, seems a bit wrong.
Portable Holes are good, but still have a limited amount of storage.
Portable Hole
A portable hole is a circle of cloth spun from the webs of a phase spider interwoven with strands of ether and beams of starlight. When opened fully, a portable hole is 6 feet in diameter, but it can be folded up to be as small as a pocket handkerchief. When spread upon any surface, it causes an extradimensional space 10 feet deep to come into being. This hole can be picked up from inside or out by simply taking hold of the edges of the cloth and folding it up. Either way, the entrance disappears, but anything inside the hole remains.
The only air in the hole is that which enters when the hole is opened. It contains enough air to supply one Medium creature or two Small creatures for 10 minutes. The cloth does not accumulate weight even if its hole is filled. Each portable hole opens on its own particular nondimensional space. If a bag of holding is placed within a portable hole, a rift to the Astral Plane is torn in that place. Both the bag and the cloth are sucked into the void and forever lost. If a portable hole is placed within a bag of holding, it opens a gate to the Astral Plane. The hole, the bag, and any creatures within a 10-foot radius are drawn there, the portable hole and bag of holding being destroyed in the process.
Moderate conjuration; CL 12th; Craft Wondrous Item, plane shift; Price 20,000 gp.
So...., can I fill a Portable Hole with Loot, pass it safely through a Ring Gate, and either drop it, or open the Portable Hole against the ceiling and let the contents fall out?
I'm gonna talk to the Google about making a Ring Gate with greater/unlimited transfer rate and range. And if not pose the question to her.
Just interested in what everyone thinks.
Thanks
Note: I'm playing a Dwarf, with Greed as a domain. In the past he spent 3-4 game days, slowly removing 100gp pearls from the top of a Sarcophagus. So leaving even a single copper behind goes against his world view. Another PC uses copper coins to attempt to incite responses from traps and possible hidden monsters. After the coast is clear, my character always pockets the coin.
Also, I currently have a clone. So if I die, I don't want to lose accumulated loot as well as my gear. (Though looking at getting my gear set up with a contingency, too Teleport Object/s if I die or something).
The Point: I had the idea of a Ring Gate, set up in a moving ceiling. The ceiling would move the Ring Gate from vault to vault. Each vault would have guardians, and/or inhospitable environment. Pour Loot in until the vault is full, and trigger the ceiling to move to the next vault ready to be filled.
Problem: But Ring Gates can only move 100lbs/day, at a range of 100 miles.
Ring Gates
These always come in pairs—two iron rings, each about 18 inches in diameter. The rings must be on the same plane of existence and within 100 miles of each other to function. Whatever is put through one ring comes out the other, and up to 100 pounds of material can be transferred each day. (Objects only partially pushed through and then retracted do not count.) This useful device allows for instantaneous transport of items or messages, and even attacks. A character can reach through to grab things near the other ring, or even stab a weapon through if so desired. Alternatively, a character could stick his head through to look around. A spellcaster could even cast a spell through a ring gate. A Small character can make a DC 13 Escape Artist check to slip through. Creatures of Tiny, Diminutive, or Fine size can pass through easily. Each ring has a "entry side" and an "exit side," both marked with appropriate symbols.
Strong conjuration; CL 17th; Craft Wondrous Item, gate; Price 40,000 gp; Weight 1 lb. each.
I could teleport myself out of the location and stash my Loot. And other than dungeons that may be dimensionally locked, that'd work. But stopping mid crawl, to pop home to have tea and crumpets, seems a bit wrong.
Portable Holes are good, but still have a limited amount of storage.
Portable Hole
A portable hole is a circle of cloth spun from the webs of a phase spider interwoven with strands of ether and beams of starlight. When opened fully, a portable hole is 6 feet in diameter, but it can be folded up to be as small as a pocket handkerchief. When spread upon any surface, it causes an extradimensional space 10 feet deep to come into being. This hole can be picked up from inside or out by simply taking hold of the edges of the cloth and folding it up. Either way, the entrance disappears, but anything inside the hole remains.
The only air in the hole is that which enters when the hole is opened. It contains enough air to supply one Medium creature or two Small creatures for 10 minutes. The cloth does not accumulate weight even if its hole is filled. Each portable hole opens on its own particular nondimensional space. If a bag of holding is placed within a portable hole, a rift to the Astral Plane is torn in that place. Both the bag and the cloth are sucked into the void and forever lost. If a portable hole is placed within a bag of holding, it opens a gate to the Astral Plane. The hole, the bag, and any creatures within a 10-foot radius are drawn there, the portable hole and bag of holding being destroyed in the process.
Moderate conjuration; CL 12th; Craft Wondrous Item, plane shift; Price 20,000 gp.
So...., can I fill a Portable Hole with Loot, pass it safely through a Ring Gate, and either drop it, or open the Portable Hole against the ceiling and let the contents fall out?
I'm gonna talk to the Google about making a Ring Gate with greater/unlimited transfer rate and range. And if not pose the question to her.
Just interested in what everyone thinks.
Thanks