Gazetteer of the Stick

[dtilque]

For those unfamiliar with the term, a gazetteer is a geographic dictionary. Below is a gazetteer of the OotS world. I'm sure it's incomplete and would appreciate any additions or corrections.

Notes

1. The links after each entry are where the name is first mentioned in the strips. Additional links are places where further info on that name can be found.

2. Abbreviations used for sources:

W&XPs Extras = the map on the last page of War and XPs
SS&DT = Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales
SoD = Start of Darkness
OoPCs = On the Order of PCs
DStP = Don't Split the Party
DStP_DE = Don't Split the Party Digital Edition
BM<roman numeral> = Bonus Material page number at end of DStP_DE
HPGHS = How the Paladin Got His Scar
SC = map of Southern Continent on page 50 of Good Deeds Gone Unpunished
NC = map of Northern Continent on page after 1131 of Utterly Dwarfed
WC = map of the Western Continent on strip 698 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0698.html)
1044 = navagation chart of the Dwarven Lands on strip 1044 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1044.html)

3. Some generic terms are used for certain types of features.

stream -- any linear waterway, such as rivers, creeks, etc.
summit -- any individual high point such as mountains, peaks, etc.
range -- any group of mountains or hills
road -- any thoroughfare such as streets, lanes, alleys, etc.

4. The map of Üptharrnor (Uptharnorr) on page iv of DStP_DE is sufficiently different from Üppentharnorth in the Northern Continent map that the former is ignored in this gazetteer.

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~ A ~
Ancient City town in the Redscale Mountains in western Realm of the Dragon (SC)
Ancient Empire empire formerly comprising about half of the Southern Continent, including what is now Gobbotopia and Realm of the Dragon (HPGHS, p 66)
Anywhere kingdom in the Northern Lands, northwest of Nowhere (226 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0226.html), NC)
Area Expanse large region in eastern Northern Continent (NC)
Avenue Street road in Cliffport 337 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0337.html)
Azure City former city-state and major port on the north coast of the Cyan Peninsula in the Southern Lands; now Gobbotopia 204 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0204.html)/260 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0260.html)/(W&XPs Extras)
Azurite Territory country in the northwest of the Southern Continent (SC)



~ B ~
Back Alley Road road in Greysky City; location of the Thieves Guild 643 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0643.html)
Badvulf Orcs noncoastal town on the Shtuckout Peninsula (DStP_DE, MBiv)
Bae Bay arm of the Wet Sea, south of the Northern Continent, east of the Southern Continent (NC)
Barren Baronies former name of one or all of the three empires (Blood, Sweat, or Tears) 758 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0758.html)
Barrier River stream in the Southern Continent, flowing west from the Division Mountains to the This River (DStP_DE, MBii)
Bartervault populated place in the Dwarven Lands, southeast of Thane City (1044)
Basin River large river draining the southern third of the Southern Continent, including the Peripheral Frontier (SC)
Blackscale Swamp swamp in southern Realm of the Dragon, surrounding the lower reaches of an <unnamed> river (SC)
Bleedingham capital city of the Empire of Blood 715 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0715.html)
Blood, Empire of state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, south of the Goaway Mountains, west of Reptilia and the Empire of Tears, north of the Free City of Doom and the Empire of Sweat, northeast of the Great Barren Desert, and east of Eviltopia and Fangland (WC)
Bluescale Desert desert in northern Realm of the Dragon (SC)
Blue River stream in the Southern Lands, flowing west from the Southern Mountains to Cobalt Bay (W&XPs Extras)
Blueriver Fort town and fortress on the upper Blue River 368 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0368.html)/(W&XPs Extras)
Bork Bork Bork coastal town in Üppentharnorth, on the Loud Sound (NC)
Byebye Highlands range of hills in southern Monarch Kingdom (NC)



~ C ~
Cerulean River stream in the western part of the Cyan Peninsula flowing south into Gulf Bay (W&XPs Extras)
Chøppenvood town in Üppentharnorth, up river from Townüpthar (NC)
Clawclaw Bay inlet of the Marine Ocean extending into Realm of the Dragon (SC)
Cliffport major city-state and port on the western coast of the Northern Lands 337 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0337.html)/(NC)
Cobalt Bay bay on the north side of the Cyan Peninsula (W&XPs Extras)
Cog Street road in Tinkertown 985 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0985.html)
Concave Mountains range in the Southern Lands, south of the Southern Mountains (W&XPs Extras)
Cove Bay bay to the east of the Southern Continent (DStP_DE, MBii)
Creepy Sound inlet of the sea from Gulf Bay (SC)
Crooked Mountain summit in the Redmountain Hills; location of the Dungeon of Dorukan 196 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0196.html)
Cruelvania state in the northern part of the Western Continent, north of the Great Barren Desert, west of Fangland, north of Eviltopia, northeast of T.B.D., Freeland, and Scalya, and south of the Goaway Mountains 680 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0680.html)
Cuddlytown captial city of Halfling Lands, located on the Happy River (NC)
Cyan Peninsula peninsula on the west coast of the Southern Lands (W&XPs Extras)



~ D ~
Dark Republic, The state in the southwestern part of the Western Continent, south of West Despotonia, southwest of East Despotonia, north and west of the People's Democratic Dictatorship, and east of The Grisly Coast (WC)
Deadsburg capital city of the Ghostlands, located at the head of Creepy Sound (SC)
Depressed Hills range on the Cyan Peninsula, west of the Concave Mountains, east of the Valley River (W&XPs Extras)
Desert Barony arid region in western Monarch Kingdom (NC)
Despotonia see East Despotonia or West Despotonia
Dictatoria state in the northern part of the Western Continent, north of the Great Barren Desert, southeast of Scalya, west of Freeland, and east of the sea 680 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0680.html)
Digfürstoof mountain town in the far north of Üppentharnorth (NC)
Division Mountains range in the northern part of the Southern Continent, lying between the Southern Mountains to the east and south, the Wet Sea to the west, and the Northern Continent to the north (DStP_DE, MBii)
Dragon, Realm of the very large state in the eastern Southern Lands, south of the Raja Kingdom (SS&DT)/501, panel 9 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0501.html)
Draketooth Pyramid pyramid in the Great Barren Desert, near Windy Canyon; now destroyed 839 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0839.html)
Draketown town in the Realm of the Dragon, at the mouth of the Lung River (SC)
Dungeon of Dorukan fortress on Crooked Mountain in the Redmountain Hills; now destroyed 13 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0013.html)
Dwarven Lands region in the far north of the Northern Lands, in the Summit and Molehill Mountains; inhabited mainly by dwarves 368 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0368.html)/(1044)



~ E ~
East Despotonia state in the southwestern part of the Western Continent, south of the Great Barren Desert, west of the sea, north of the People's Democratic Dictatorship, northeast of the Dark Republic, and east of West Despotonia 680 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0680.html)
Elven Lands area in the Western Continent, northeast of the Goaway Mountains; inhabited mainly by elves (WC)
Eviltopia state in the northern part of the Western Continent, south of Cruelvania, southwest of Fangland, west of the Empire of Blood, north of the Great Barren Desert, and east of T.BD. (WC)



~ F ~
Fangland state in the northern part of the Western Continent, south of the Goaway Mountains, west of the Empire of Blood, northeast of Eviltopia, and east of Cruelvania (WC)
Finder's Keep town in southeast Monarch Kingdom (NC)
Firmament town in Dwarven Lands, northwest of Thane City 1024 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1024.html)/(1044)
Fissure Gap pass through the Pinnacle Mountains leading to Dwarven Lands (1044)
Fluvial River major stream flowing southwest from the Molehill and Vertical Mountains, through Pond Lake, to the Wet Sea at Cliffport (NC)
Fork River river flowing west to east in the Raja Kingdom (implied SC)
Fort Wyvern town in the Realm of the Dragon, on the Lung River (SC)
Free City of Doom city-state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, west of the Empire of Tears, east of the Empire of Sweat, and south of the Empire of Blood; now conquered by the Empire of Tears (WC)
Freeland state in the northern part of the Western Continent, southwest of Cruelvania, northeast of T.B.D., north of the Great Barren Desert, and east of Dictatoria and Scalya (WC)
Fugative Harbor inlet on Cove Bay (NC)



~ G ~
Gelid Glacier glacier in the far north, north of Dwarven Lands, northwest of Thane City (1044, NC)
Gentleville town in southwestern Halfling lands (NC)
Ghostlands state in the Southern Lands, south of Azure City/Gobbotopia (W&XPs Extras)/501, panel 8 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0501.html)
Goaway Mountains range in the Western Continent separating the Elven Lands to the north from more arid lands to the south (WC)
Gobblin Hills range in the Northern Lands, over 1000 miles north of Azure City (SoD, p 9)
Gobbotopia city-state in the Southern Lands; formerly known as Azure City 702 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0702.html)
Gorge Ravine watercourse in the Southern Mountains; also a large hobgoblin outpost located on it (HPGHS, p 20)
Great Barren Desert large desert in the Western Continent (WC)
Great Elven Forest another name for the Elven Lands (OoPCs, p 48)
Greysky City city-state in the Northern Lands on the This River, in the northern foothills of the Southern Mountains, about 15 miles from Cove Bay 531 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0531.html)/SoD p 78/(DStP_DE, MBii/NC)
Greenscale Forest forest in southwestern Realm of the Dragon, surrounding the upper reaches of an <unnamed> river (SC)
Griffonburg town in far northeast of the Northern continent (NC)
Grisly Coast, The state in the soutwestern part of the Western Continent, south of the Great Barren Desert, west of West Despotonia and the Dark Republic, north of the People's Democratic Dictatorship, and east of the sea (WC)
Gulf Bay large bay on the west side of the Southern Continent, south of the Cyan Peninsula (W&XPs Extras, SC)



~ H ~
Halfling Lands country in the southwest of the Northern Continent, south of Monarch Kingdom and east of Somewhere (NC)
Happy River stream in the Halfling Lands, flowing southwest from the Bye-Bye Mountains and then east to Snugglers' Cove (NC)
Haunted Woods woodland in northeast Ghostlands (SC)
Hemorrhage Road road in Bleedingham; location of the Imperial Palace 715 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0715.html)
Here country in the Northern Continent, on Bae Bay, southeast of Somewhere, northwest of There (NC)
Heroes' Cape cape on a large peninsula in Üppentharnorth (NC)
Hidden Valley valley in the Southern Mountains (W&XPs Extras)
Hobgoblin City or Hobgoblin Town town in the Southern Mountains (W&XPs Extras/197 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0197.html)/SC)
Horizontal Plains plains in northern Area Expanse, south of Vertical Mountains (NC)



~ I ~
Independenton town in the Peripheral Frontier, west of Settlerville (SC)
Ivyleaf village in Elven Lands; home town of Vaarsuvius 629 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0629.html)



~ J ~
Justania former state in the Western Continent; now part of the Empire of Blood 755 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0755.html)
Justha Tip cape at the southernmost point of the Southern Continent (SC)



~ K ~
Kraagor's Tomb an artificial hill containing a vast warren of dungeons, near the north pole; also known as Monster Hollow 1039 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1039.html)
Keep Castle town in the far west of Raja Kingdom (SC)
Keyhidden Island large island in the Marine Ocean, southwest of the Southern Continent (SC)



~ L ~
Lair Island island within Cove Bay off the east coast of the Northern Lands (SoD, p 78/DStP_DE, MBii)
Left Fields plains in Monarch Kingdom, southwest of Timber Woods (NC)
Leftfork River river in Raja Kingdom, tributary to the Fork River (SC)
Lickmyorangeballshalfling village in Sunken Valley 568 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0568.html)
Linnormopolis town in the far south of the Realm of the Dragon, on the Marine Ocean coast (SC)
Lirian's Glade locality in the Elven Lands; location of one of the rifts in the fabric of the universe (SoD, p 51)
Littoral Coast coast lands southeast of Port Harborage in the Raja Kingdom (SC)
Lost City of Losers town in the Rainforest Jungle (SC)
Lung River stream in the Realm of the Dragon, flowing from the Redscale Mountains to Clawclaw Bay (SC)



~ M ~
Mapgaptopia region south of the Realm of the Dragon, west and north of the Marine Ocean, east of the Peripheral Frontier (SC)
Marine Ocean body of water southwest of the Southern Continent (SC)
Middle town in central Nowhere (NC)
Molehill Mountains sub-range of the Pinnacle Mountains, in eastern Dwarven Lands (1044, NC)
Monarch Kingdom kingdom and the largest country in the Northern Lands, located in the west-central part of the continent. Royal City is the capital. (NC)
Monster Hollow see Kraagor's Tomb 1039 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1039.html)
Mountain River stream in the Cyan Peninsula, flows south through the Southern Mountains to the Valley River (W&XPs Extras)



~ N ~
New Draconis capital of Realm of the Dragon, located on the Lung River (SC)
Nextdoor town in the Northern Lands (OoPCs, p 43)
Nondescript Isle large island off the east coast of the Northern Continent (NC)
Northern Continent one of two major divisions of the main continent, north of the Southern Mountains; also known as the Northern Lands 724 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0724.html)
Northern Scrublands region in the Northern Lands (SoD, p 83)
Nottinstory populated place in the Dwarven Lands, east of Thane City
Nowhere kingdom in the Northern Lands, east of Somewhere and southeast of Anywhere (226 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0226.html), NC)



~ O ~
Other Sea body of water southeast of the Northern Continent and north of the Southern Continent (SC, NC)



~ P ~
Passage Pass north-south pass through the Pinnacle Mountains between Firmament and the coast (1044)
People's Democratic Dictatorship state in the soutwestern part of the Western Continent, south of East Despotonia, west and north of the sea, southeast of the Grisly Coast, and east of the Dark Republic (WC)
Peripheral Frontier region in between Realm of the Dragon and Azure City (HPGHS, p 8)
Pinnacle Mountains east-west range in the northern Northern Lands, almost 2000 miles long 985 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0985.html)
Plain Fields plains in southern Area Expanse (NC)
Pond Lake lake in central Monarch Kingdom, fed and drained by the Fluvial River (NC)
Port Harborage capital of the Raja Kingdom, at the mouth of the Fork River (SC)



~ Q ~
Queen Amontop's Pyramid pyramid in the Sandy Valley (SS&DT)
Quietus Federation former name of one of the three empires (Blood, Sweat, or Tears) 758 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0758.html)



~ R ~
Rainforest Jungle large forested land in the south of the Southern Continent (SoD p 49, SC)
Raja Kingdom country on the northeast coast of the Southern Continent, north of the Realm of the Dragon, east of Azurite Territory (SC)
Random Encounter Islands chain of islands off the Cyan Peninsula (SC)
Realm of the Dragon see Dragon, Realm of the
Reddragonsville town in northeastern Northern Continent, in the foothills of the Molehill Mountains (497 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0497.html), NC)
Redmountain Hills range in the Northern Lands, in the center of Area Expanse; location of the Dungeon of Dorukan (203 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0203.html), NC)
Redscale Mountains range in western Realm of the Dragon (SC)
Redundance (1) town in southern Monarch Kingdom on the Happy River; (2) town in the very south of the Northern Continent on the Wherever River (NC)
Reptilia state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, south of the Goaway Mountains, west of the sea, north of the Empire of Tears and east of the Empire of Blood (WC)
Right fields plains in Monarch Kingdom, northeast of Timber Woods (NC)
Rightfork River river in Raja Kingdom, tributary to the Fork River (SC)
Road Valley east-west valley in the Cyan Peninsula, south of the Blue River (W&XPs Extras)
Robinsegg town on the south coast of the Cyan Peninsula at the mouth of the Cerulean River (W&XPs Extras)
Royal City capital of Monarch Kingdom, located on the Fluvial River near the outflow of Pond Lake (DStP Extras, page after 599)/(NC)



~ S ~
Sandsedge trading entrepot on the south coast of the Western Continent, at the edge of the Great Barren Desert 673 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0673.html)
Sandy Valley valley in the Western Continent; location of Queen Amontop's pyramid (SS&DT)
Scalya state in the northern part of the Western Continent, southwest of Cruelvania, east of Freeland, north of Dictatoria, southeast of the sea (WC)
Seaboard Coast the eastern coast of the Northern Continent, north of the Standard Bog (NC)
Semi Colony town in far south of the Southern Continent, close to the mouth of the Basin River (SC)
Settlerville town in the Peripheral Frontier, east of Independenton (SC)
Sneak Peek Peaks range in southwestern Southern Continent, a coastal range west of Rainforest Jungle (SC)
Sungglers' Cove inlet of Bae Bay, at the mouth of the Happy River (NC)
Solid Sea frozen body of water north of the Northern Continent, surrounding the North Pole (NC)
Someplace Else democratic city-state in the southeast of the Northern Lands, at the mouth of the Wherever River (226 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0226.html), NC)
Somewhere kingdom in the Northern Lands, on Snuggler's Cove, east of Halfling Lands, west of Here (226 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0226.html), NC)
Southern Continent one of two major divisions of the main continent, bounded on the north by the Southern Mountains and Division Mountains (both of which are considered to be part of the Southern Lands); also known as the Southern Lands (204 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0204.html), SC)
Southern Mountains range in the northern part of Southern Lands. It lies in an arc from the eastern shore near Cove Bay to the northern Cyan Peninsula. 147 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0147.html)/(W&XPs Extras)/(DStP_DE p MBii)
Straight Channel straight between the Northern Continent and Nondescript Isle (NC)
Standard Bog swamp along the lower reaches of the Waterway River in eastern Area Expanse (NC)
Striped Taiga region in northwest Northern Continent, between Üppentharnorth and Waiza Tundra (NC)
Submergia undersea town in the Marine Ocean, west of the Southern Continent, south of the Random Encounter Islands (SC)
Summit Mountains sub-range of the Pinnacle Mountains, in western Dwarven Lands (1044, NC)
Sunken Valley valley in the Southern Lands, southeast of Azure City/Gobbotopia; location of the Oracle 324 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0324.html)/(W&XPs Extras)
Sweat, Empire of state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, south of the Empire of Blood, west of the Free City of Doom, north of the sea and east of the Great Barren Desert (WC)



~ T ~
T.B.D. state in the northern part of the Western Continent, south of Cruelvania, west of Eviltopia, north of the Great Barren Desert, east of Freeland (WC)
Tears, Empire of state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, south of Reptilia, west and north of the sea, east of the Free City of Doom, and southeast of the Empire of Blood (WC)
Terror, Duchy of former name of one of the three empires (Blood, Sweat, or Tears, most likely the Empire of Blood) 758 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0758.html)
Terrorburg former capital city of Tyrinaria; now Bleedingham 759 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0759.html)
Thane City capital city of the Dwarven Lands (1044)
There country in the far south of Northern Continent, southeast of Here (NC)
This River stream in both the Southern and Northern Lands, flowing north from the Southern Mountains past Greysky City (DStP_DE, MBii)
Those Woods forest in southeastern Area Expanse, immediately north of Nowhere (NC)
Timber Woods forest in Monarch Kingdom, between Left Plains and Right Plains (NC)
Tinkertown city on a volcanic island west and south of the Northern Lands; inhabited mainly by gnomes 956 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0956.html)
Toofar Steppes region in the northeast Area Expanse, south of Griffonsburg (NC)
Townüpthar capital city of Üppentharnorth, at the mouth of <unnamed> River (NC)
Tunnelsburg populated place in the Dwarven Lands, west of Thane City (1044)
Tyrinaria former state in the Western Continent; now the Empire of Blood 131 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0131.html)/759 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0759.html)



~ U ~
Unpopular Mountain isolated summit in Waiza Tundra (NC)
Unprincipled Principalities former name of one or all of the three empires (Blood, Sweat, or Tears) 758 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0758.html)
Üppentharnorth country in the northwestern part of the Northern Continent (NC)



~ V ~
Valley River stream on the Cyan Peninsula, flows west and south from the Southern Mountains to Gulf Bay (W&XPs Extras)
Vertical Heights range in northern Area Expanse, east and south of the Fluvial River, north of the Horizontal Plains (NC)
Very Estuary large estuary where the Basin River flows into the ocean (SC)



~ W ~
Waiza Tundra region in the far northwest of the Northern Continent, beyond Striped Taiga (NC)
Waterway River stream in eastern Area Expanse, flowing south through the Wooden Forest, then east through Standard Bog to its mouth on the Other Sea (NC)
Weary Traveller's Inn and Tavern hotel in southern Area Expanse, northwest of Anywhere; now destroyed (224 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0224.html), NC)
West Despotonia state in the southwestern part of the Western Continent, south of the Great Barren Desert, west of East Despotonia, north of the Dark Republic, and east of the Grisly Coast 680 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0680.html)
Western Continent the smaller of the two major land masses in the world 643 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0643.html)
Wet Sea body of water west of the Northern Continent, northwest of the Southern Continent, north of the Random Encounter Islands (W&XPs Extras, NC, SC)
Which Woods forest in Someplace Else (NC)
Whitescale Mountains range in northwestern Realm of the Dragon (SC)
Windy Canyon canyon in the Empire of Blood 816 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0816.html)
Wish University town in Here, on Bae Bay (NC)
Wooden Forest wilderness area in eastern Area Expanse (134 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0134.html), NC)



~ X ~
Xykon's Tower fortress in the Southern Mountains, one valley north of Hobgoblin City 148 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0148.html)/(DStP_DE, MBii)



~ Z ~
Zenith Peak summit in the Pinnacle Mountains, about 830 miles North by Northeast of Tinkertown 987 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0987.html)


Places with little info

Dinosaur Island 392 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0392.html)
Helldeathdoomfire Volcano (SoD, p 16)
Rupture Ravine 988 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0988.html)

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I. Northern Continent


Anywhere
Cliffport


Avenue Street

Dwarven Lands


Bartervault
Firmament
Nottinstory
Thane City
Tunnelsburg

Gelid Glacier
Gobblin Hills
Greysky City


Back Alley Road

Kraagor's Tomb/Monster Hollow
Lair Island
Northern Scrublands
Nowhere
Pinnacle Mountains


Fissure Gap
Molehill Mountains
Passage Pass
Peaked Mountains
Summit Mountains
Zenith Peak

Redmountain Hills


Crooked Mountain
Dungeon of Dorukan

Someplace Else
Somewhere


Weary Traveller's Inn and Tavern

That Kingdom


Royal City

This River
Uptharnorr


Chøppenvood
Diggfürstoof
Fjordünback
Fünnee Sound
Pininfürthuh Fjords
Shtuckout Peninsula


Badvulf Orcs

Townüpthar
Vahtery River
Vooden Forest

Wooden Forest



II. Southern Continent


Ancient Empire
Concave Mountains
Cyan Peninsula


Cerulean River
Cobalt Bay
Depressed Hills
Gulf Bay
Mountain River
Road Valley
Valley River

Division Mountains


Barrier River

Dragon, Realm of the
Ghostlands
Gobbotopia/Azure City


Blueriver Fort
Robinsegg

Peripheral Frontier
Southern Mountains


Blue River
Gorge Ravine
Hidden Valley
Hobgobblin City
This River
Xykon's Tower

Sunken Valley



III. Western Continent


Blood, Empire of/Tyrinaria


Bleedingham/Terrorburg


Hemorrhage Road

Draketooth Pyramid
Windy Canyon

Cruelvania
Dark Republic, The
Dictatoria
East Despotonia
Elven Lands/Great Elven Forest


Ivyleaf
Lirian's Glade

Eviltopia
Fangland
Free City of Doom
Freeland
Goaway Mountains
Great Barren Desert


Sandy Valley
Sandsedge

Grisly Coast
People's Democratic Dictatorship
Reptilia
Scalya
Sweat, Empire of
T.B.D.
Tears, Empire of
West Despotonia

[SirKazum]

Great job! I wonder if there's enough information all around to sketch a map... I know we've seen the planet in-comic, but knowing where to put what would be nice.

[ti'esar]

Ooh, this is a neat idea.

[kgato503]

I agree, this is a great idea!

3. Not sure whether to add Dwarven Lands, although I probably should. First mention anyone?
4. I did not include any entries for things like buildings and institutions (Draketooth pyramid, Imperial Palace in Bleedingham, Warthog's School, etc). Any opinions on whether to include these? I did include street names, though, what few there are.
5. How dies the format of the list look? Suggestions for improvement?


Feedback: I think the Dwarven Lands should be added. While it might be that they have separate kingdoms (or whatever), the dwarves in comic seem to talk as if it is all one place. It is essentially the same as the Elven Lands. I think mentioning the "Human Lands" (0084 first mention, if I am not mistaken) might also be an idea. Yes, those lands contain individual countries, but it seems to be the collective name for those lands. (And no, I can't remember the first reference for the Dwarven Lands)

I also think buldings and institutions of note should be mentioned. Lets face it, iof The Giant names it, there is a very good chance it ias of plot importance.

Finaly, I like the format. Very easy to find things. However, condensing things via spoiler tags might be a very good idea.

[Xihirli]

The Dwarven Lands are just north of Tinkertown, and the Elven Lands are just north of the Empires of Blood, Sweat, and Tears.

[Tom Lehmann]

I noticed that you call rivers, such as Blue River or Cerulean River, "streams", which is incorrect.

I suspect you're doing this to avoid "{River} river", but you have this "repeat" issue in other entries: {Street} street, {Bay} bay, etc. I would suggest either not worrying about repeating "river" or dealing with this issue generally:

Blue River, in the Southern Lands, flows into Cobalt Bay (W&XPs Extras)
Avenue Street, in Cliffport 337
Cobalt Bay, on the north side of the Cyan Peninsula (W&XPs Extras)
Hidden Valley, in the Southern Mountains (W&XPs Extras)

[dtilque]

Great job! I wonder if there's enough information all around to sketch a map... I know we've seen the planet in-comic, but knowing where to put what would be nice.

No where near that much info, except where maps have already been provided.

The only planet-wide view I know of is the familicide one (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0639.html). There you can see the Western Continent and the main continent with a narrowish area where the Northern and Southern lands are divided. If you look at the area some distance south of that narrowing on the west side of the Southern Land, you can see the Cyan Peninsula looking much as it does in the map at the end of W&XPs. It has a string of three islands tailing away from it.

There's the map of the Western Continent here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0698.html). You can't make out all the names fo the countries on it just by expanding the image. Possibly they could be read if one or more image sharpening algorithms are applied. Has anyone done this?


I noticed that you call rivers, such as Blue River or Cerulean River, "streams", which is incorrect.

I suspect you're doing this to avoid "{River} river", but you have this "repeat" issue in other entries: {Street} street, {Bay} bay, etc.

That's not an error nor is that the reason for it. I was imitating the practice of another gazetteer (http://geonames.usgs.gov/domestic/index.html), which combines all linear bodies of water under the class of "stream". It doesn't matter if they're the mightiest river or the tiniest babbling brook, they're all streams there. That DB doesn't have streets and roads, but I was doing the same for those under "street". Probably should change that to "road", since that's a bit more generic term.

Along those lines, that site uses "summit" for individual peaks and "range" for groups of them. I didn't follow that but will change it to do so. There are no individual mountains named in OotS, but several ranges.

However, I'm not going to follow its practice is for "populated places". That DB uses that term for everything from the biggest megapolises to the smallest hamlet. I'm going to keep calling them cities, towns and villages, as appropriate.

I've decided for now not to add buildings and such. I may change my mind later. I'll also add Dwarven Lands, but not Human Lands,. The latter are too extensive. Elves and dwarves mainly live in relatively small areas while humans live all over the planet.

[ti'esar]

There's the map of the Western Continent here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0698.html). You can't make out all the names fo the countries on it just by expanding the image. Possibly they could be read if one or more image sharpening algorithms are applied. Has anyone done this?

I'm pretty sure they can be read just by looking at the online image, actually, but it's not needed: the version in the BRitF print edition is legible. If you don't have a copy I can give you the names from mine, if you specify which ones you can't make out.

[Rogar Demonblud]

My favorites on the map are 'TBD' and '???'.

[dtilque]

I'm pretty sure they can be read just by looking at the online image, actually, but it's not needed: the version in the BRitF print edition is legible. If you don't have a copy I can give you the names from mine, if you specify which ones you can't make out.

Never thought to look at the paper version. But even with that, my crappy eyesight (even with glasses) makes it kind of hard to read. It would help if I had a magnifying glass, but I don't have one handy.

Of those I couldn't make out before, I see The Grisly Coast down in the south, Freeland, Fangland, and Eviltopia up in the north. But still can't make out the country north of Dictatoria.

[ti'esar]

But still can't make out the country north of Dictatoria.

Scalya. Probably another reptile nation.

[dtilque]

Scalya. Probably another reptile nation.

Thanks. I'll add them tomorrow. It's late and I'm tired here.

[Murk]

It's fun how a new index appears every now and then. I always think "Another index? We don't need that!", but then I read it and change my mind to "Yes we needed this so much!"

This is awesome.

[dtilque]

It's fun how a new index appears every now and then. I always think "Another index? We don't need that!", but then I read it and change my mind to "Yes we needed this so much!"

This is awesome.

Thank you. I agree with you that many of the index threads are fairly useless. Not all of them; some have been useful at times. I'm glad you consider mine among the latter.

I added the Western Continent countries I was missing. The introductory article needs to be rewritten, but not tonight. I also will probably add buildings and castles and so forth that are not within cities. But again, not tonight.

ETA: I also modified the entry for Cliffport.

[snowblizz]

For some reason I feel it'd be funnier if it was Despotania, East and Despotania, West because they sorta "belong" together.

Kinda did it with Empires of Sweat/Blood/Tears, which inversely I kinda think could be the other way.... I know inconsistent!

[dtilque]

For some reason I feel it'd be funnier if it was Despotania, East and Despotania, West because they sorta "belong" together.

Kinda did it with Empires of Sweat/Blood/Tears, which inversely I kinda think could be the other way.... I know inconsistent!

For the first issue, that's an issue that geographers don't have a single answer to. For instance, North Korea is listed both as "Korea, North" and as "North Korea" in various references. Which way they do it is purely up the preference of the compiler.

But for both issues, these are Burlew's jokes, and I don't feel obligated to repeat them.

Progress report:

I've updated both the intro article and the gazetteer. For the latter, I've


added buildings that are outside of cities. Not sure if I should add the Bleedingham galdiator arena. It's about a mile or so outside Bleedingham.
added a couple other places I came across: Terrorburg, Crooked Mountain
added Zenith Peak from the latest strip


One issue came up: there's several names formerly used for the Empires of Blood, Sweat & Tears: The Duchy of Terror, The Barren Baronies. the Quietus Federation, The Unprincipled Principalities. The problem is that we don't know which names go with which empire. Not sure how to handle this. Suggestions?

[Mad Humanist]

One issue came up: there's several names formerly used for the Empires of Blood, Sweat & Tears: The Duchy of Terror, The Barren Baronies. the Quietus Federation, The Unprincipled Principalities. The problem is that we don't know which names go with which empire. Not sure how to handle this. Suggestions?


Put them under "Places with little info".

[Qaanol]

Typos:

Cooked Mountain summit in the Redmountain Hills, location of the Dungeon of Durokan 196 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0196.html)
Should be “Crooked”.


Zenith Peak summit in the Pinnacle Mountains, about 830 miles NNW of Tinkertown 987 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0987.html)
Should be NNE. (Well, technically the vampire says “north by northeast”, which is not an actual compass direction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Points_of_the_compass#32_cardinal_points).)

[Rogar Demonblud]

Not now, but it was back in the Age of Sail.

[Lissou]

I was wondering if it might make sense to also to a geographical listing. That is, instead of sorting the whole thing purely alphabetically, dividing up into continents first, then do a listing per continent? Obviously it wouldn't be 100% geographic (you'd need to draw a map for that) but this way the different regions would be more "grouped".

Would that be possible at all or does it have too few advantages and too many disadvantages to be worth it?

[dtilque]

Put them under "Places with little info".

The problem is they have too much info for that category. I meant that list to be for places where we have a name but no idea where it goes. With these, we have a good idea where they go but not quite exactly,


Not now, but it was back in the Age of Sail.

Don't think so. The direction meant is either Northeast by North or North Northeast. The Wikipage on points of the compass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Points_of_the_compass) has an old compass card (a couple centuries old, at least) with those two on them, but not North by Northeast.


Qaanol, thanks for the corrections. For some reason I misread Northeast as Northwest. That would give North by Northwest, the name of the Hitchcock movie, which apparently is based on a Hamlet quote (which I was unaware of before a discussion in the strip thread.)

[Rogar Demonblud]

The old sailing directions had 24 positional courses, each about 15 degrees apart. So you had North, North by Northwest, Northwest by North, Northwest, etc. As compasses got better and sextants replaced backstaffs, that's when thing were redone in a more consistent, scientific format. Although navigation wouldn't become really precise until Nathaniel Bowditch made the scene (read up on him; it's fascinating).

[dtilque]

The old sailing directions had 24 positional courses, each about 15 degrees apart. So you had North, North by Northwest, Northwest by North, Northwest, etc. As compasses got better and sextants replaced backstaffs, that's when thing were redone in a more consistent, scientific format. Although navigation wouldn't become really precise until Nathaniel Bowditch made the scene (read up on him; it's fascinating).

Fair enough. I suppose I should change the direction. But note that theOotSverse does have sex taints, er, I mean sax tents, er ... well you know what I mean. Also they have carts o' gophers... so it seems they have advanced navigation.

[Rogar Demonblud]

I figure that's part of Rich's ongoing mockery of D&Disms, like how the weapons and armor tables have items from different millenia together as currently for sale.

[dtilque]

I was wondering if it might make sense to also to a geographical listing. That is, instead of sorting the whole thing purely alphabetically, dividing up into continents first, then do a listing per continent? Obviously it wouldn't be 100% geographic (you'd need to draw a map for that) but this way the different regions would be more "grouped".

Would that be possible at all or does it have too few advantages and too many disadvantages to be worth it?

It's not a bad idea and I'll consider doing it, but not now.

Someone upthread suggested that I put the list in a spoiler block. That's not a bad idea either. The only reason I haven't done it is aesthetics. The green background the spoiler blocks have is just plain ugly. I don't want my list contaminated by it. However, if I do add lists sorted by region, I'll put them in spoiler blocks, probably in the post I have reserved for future use.

Anyway, I've updated the list: Rupture Ravine from the current strip (in the places with little info list) and the four former names of the empires. Also added a link after Hobgoblin City to strip 197. It doesn't say it explicitly, but I'd be very surprised of that town in the last panel is not Hobgoblin City.

Another potential addition that I'm not sure about is Royal City. This is from an extra in DStP between 599 and 600. The Dirt Farmer and his wife are visiting it. With that name, it's probably the capital of a kingdom, although from the readings from the pamphlet the Wife has, it may not be a capital but rather a historical site like Jamestown Settlement in Virginia. Since the OotS went to the Inn immediately after the Dirt Farmer arc, and the Inn was in Somewhere, it's very likely the Dirt Farmer lives in Somewhere. Which means they may be visiting the captial of Somewhere, but it's not 100% certain. Any thoughts on whether and how to add this one?

[ti'esar]

I'd recommend adding it, at least, as it appears to exist as a location within the OOTS world.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Somehow, I didn't see this thread earlier. This looks like a pretty cool project!

[dtilque]

Re: Royal City


I'd recommend adding it, at least, as it appears to exist as a location within the OOTS world.

Yes, but how should I describe it? You guys never give me help on this kind of thing. Which is just as important as whether to add it.

[ti'esar]

Thought of two more additions for the gazetteer:


The Azure City guidebook entry in the W&XPs extras indicates that one of the neighboring regions to Azure City is called the Ghostlands. I don't have my copy on me, so I can't provide any further details, though. I suspect it's probably the second Southern nation seen in 501's second page (www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0501.html), since that appears to have some kind of ghost in a position of authority, but that's just speculation.
Also on the subject of 501, the third nation on the second page - the one that kind of looks like a fantasy Tibet - appears in a one-off comic from SSDT which identifies it as the Realm of the Dragon. It's apparently ruled by a succession of dragon emperors (the current is the young and bad-tempered White Emperor, his predecessor was the Red Emperor) advised by humans.

[dtilque]

Thought of two more additions for the gazetteer:


The Azure City guidebook entry in the W&XPs extras indicates that one of the neighboring regions to Azure City is called the Ghostlands. I don't have my copy on me, so I can't provide any further details, though. I suspect it's probably the second Southern nation seen in 501's second page (www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0501.html), since that appears to have some kind of ghost in a position of authority, but that's just speculation.
Also on the subject of 501, the third nation on the second page - the one that kind of looks like a fantasy Tibet - appears in a one-off comic from SSDT which identifies it as the Realm of the Dragon. It's apparently ruled by a succession of dragon emperors (the current is the young and bad-tempered White Emperor, his predecessor was the Red Emperor) advised by humans.


Excellent additions. I have no doubt both of these are correct, even though we have no hard evidence. What we have is good enough for me.

I had Ghostlands in the list of places we didn't have info on. All I had was a name and an arrow pointing off the edge of a map. And the name didn't make much sense. I mean, Dwarves live in Dwaven Lands and elves in Elven Lands, but ghosts don't actually live. For all I knew, Ghostlands may have been an amusement park or something.

The ghost may only be an advisor, but I think more likely is the sovereign. No doubt the Heir inherits the throne when he/she dies, rather than when his/her predecessor dies.

Now I'm wondering about the other two lands in 501. I hope we eventually find out more about them.

[dtilque]

Added a number of places from SoD. One that I didn't add, because I wasn't sure about it, was The Swamp (p 27). It doesn't follow the usual forms of such names (e.g. Wooden Forest, Zenith Peak, Wet Sea, etc.). Unless possibly it's the only swamp on the entire planet, in which case it wouldn't need a modifier to tell us which swamp it was. I think that's unlikely.

[ti'esar]

Minor quibble: why is the Realm of the Dragon listed as "Dragon, Realm of the" instead of "Realm of the Dragon, the"? It made it a bit hard to see where it'd been added when I checked after my last post.

[dtilque]

Minor quibble: why is the Realm of the Dragon listed as "Dragon, Realm of the" instead of "Realm of the Dragon, the"? It made it a bit hard to see where it'd been added when I checked after my last post.

For the same reason the Empire of Blood is listed as "Blood, Empire of". I put it under what seemed to be the most distinguishing term. There could be another "Realm of the X" out there where X is Tiger, Elephant, Chimera, or something else.

[dtilque]

One other change is that I found a reference in-comic to the Northern Continent. But it's in strip 724. There's probably an earlier one somewhere. Similarly, the earliest reference I have for Elven Lands is the map on 698. I expect there may be an earlier one for that. And I don't have any for Dwarven Lands. Well, there's the sign in OoPCs, but I want something I can put a link to.

So keep on the look out for references to

Northern Lands/Continent
Dwarven Lands
Elven Lands



Another thing that occured to me was about the name Terrorburg. We know it's a former name for Bleedingham when it was the capital of Tyrinaria. But doesn't it seem like a more natural name for the capital of the Duchy of Terror? This could be an indication that before Tyrinaria, it was the Duchy of Terror and they didn't rename the capital when they renamed the country.

[dtilque]

Added Lair Island from SoD

[dtilque]

More on Lair Island. Right Eye says that it's "about a three hour ride west" of Greysky City. After thinking about it, I realized I could calculate that distance. Light horses go at 60 ft/round. A little arithmetic says that they'll travel about 20 miles in three hours. But then I noticed Right Eye rides a dog. They only go 40 ft/round, or about 13.5 miles in 3 hours.

So what distance should I put? Twenty miles, 13.5 miles, or just leave it as a 3 hour ride? Or perhaps something else? Do animal travel speeds change depending on their load?

[hamishspence]

More on Lair Island. Right Eye says that it's "about a three hour ride west" of Greysky City. After thinking about it, I realized I could calculate that distance. Light horses go at 60 ft/round. A little arithmetic says that they'll travel about 20 miles in three hours. But then I noticed Right Eye rides a dog. They only go 40 ft/round, or about 13.5 miles in 3 hours.

So what distance should I put? Twenty miles, 13.5 miles, or just leave it as a 3 hour ride? Or perhaps something else? Do animal travel speeds change depending on their load?

They do - riding dogs have a speed of 4 miles per hour, heavily loaded ones a speed of 3 miles per hour:

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/movement.htm#overlandMovement

[dtilque]

Thanks hamish. After noting in the d20srd that goblins often ride worgs and looking at the picture again, it's probably one of those. I don't see overland travel speeds for worgs, but I'm going to guess 4 mph carrying a goblin. Does that sound reasonable?

[hamishspence]

Depends on how much kit a worg's carrying. Its got a 50 ft move speed - same as a heavy horse. You could probably use that as a guideline - so 5 mph overland speed for a worg with light load (as a Str 17 quadruped it might be able to carry a goblin with saddle and minimal kit)- 3.5 mph with medium or heavy load.

[dtilque]

On the Lair Island thing, I decided not to worry about it and just say "a 3 hour ride".

Updated with a couple place names from OoPCs: town of Nextdoor and Great Elven Forest. Also noticed that I'd totally missed the Western Continent, so added that. Anyone know the first reference to that in the strip? There's one in 643, when Darth V teleports the Azurite fleet, but is there an earlier one?

Other changes: modified the entries for Northern and Southern Lands.

[dtilque]

Added Firmament

[Mad Humanist]

As of 1044 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1044.html) we have a whole load of place names.

Tunnelsburg
Nottinstory
Thane City
Gelid Glacier
Bartervault
Passage Pass
Fissure Gap
Summit Mountains

[Jaxzan Proditor]

There also appears to be another mountain range called the "Molehill Mtns".

[dtilque]

Thanks for the promptings. I'll get the updates in tonight.

But I do wonder about one thing. Zenith Peak (where the Godsmoot was held) is in the Pinnacle Mountains. But on this map it seems to be in the Summit Mountains and the Pinnacle Mountains are not there, or not labeled anyway. Any ideas on this? Could the Summit Mountains be a sub-range of the Pinnacles? Or is it just a thinko by the author?

[Jasdoif]

Thanks for the promptings. I'll get the updates in tonight.

But I do wonder about one thing. Zenith Peak (where the Godsmoot was held) is in the Pinnacle Mountains. But on this map it seems to be in the Summit Mountains and the Pinnacle Mountains are not there, or not labeled anyway. Any ideas on this?Note that Zenith Peak and the Summit Mountains are on opposite sides of what's presumably Passage Pass. The pass may be a natural boundary between the Summit Mountains and the Pinnacle Mountains.

[dancrilis]

And I don't have any for Dwarven Lands. Well, there's the sign in OoPCs, but I want something I can put a link to.

So keep on the look out for references to

Dwarven Lands



Here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1044.html), also there is a north poll.

[dtilque]

Note that Zenith Peak and the Summit Mountains are on opposite sides of what's presumably Passage Pass. The pass may be a natural boundary between the Summit Mountains and the Pinnacle Mountains.

That's possible. But the Pinnacles are almost 2000 miles long (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0985.html), so it's most likely they go all the way through this map.

[Jasdoif]

That's possible. But the Pinnacles are almost 2000 miles long (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0985.html), so it's most likely they go all the way through this map.It certainly could be...or it could also be that the Pinnacles cover the area between the Summit Mountains and the Molehill Mountains. Without knowing the map's projection and/or scale, there's not really a good basis of estimating lengths from it.

[dancrilis]

Taking a screengrab and blowing it up to get a very rough scale it would seem that if the mountain range is 2000 miles across from Haley's fingers to the 'S' in summit mountains that would place the dot of Firmament about 20+ miles in diameter, and the points of the star on Thane Vault as about 30+ miles from spoke to spoke.

At that scale I am not sure how useful the map would be for fine navigation - it is possible that this one is just a general map without any true scale associated to it (in much the same way you might not bother to include a scale on a global map as countries and areas near the polls may be messed up due to flattening).

[dtilque]

It certainly could be...or it could also be that the Pinnacles cover the area between the Summit Mountains and the Molehill Mountains. Without knowing the map's projection and/or scale, there's not really a good basis of estimating lengths from it.

Yes, but I don't get the feeling that that is 2000 miles. Consider that the Appalachians are about 2000 miles long from Alabama to Newfoundland. As dancrilis says, any map covering that area would be pretty worthless for fine navigation. Instead I think it's more likely that the Pinnacles are a long mountain range with various sub-ranges, just like the Appalachians have the Allegheny Mountains, the Andirondocks, the Blue Ridge Mountains, etc.

[dtilque]

OK, made the updates based on 1044. I didn't add the North Pole, though.

A note to dancrilis: dots on maps just indcate location, not the size of the feature. The same for the starred circle indicating the capital. Their sizes don't mean anything.

[Jasdoif]

As dancrilis says, any map covering that area would be pretty worthless for fine navigation.I figure the absence of axial lines or coordinates, and the dearth of landmarks, makes it pretty worthless for navigation period....I presumed it was a political map, especially with the focus on the Dwarven Lands and settlements thereof.


Instead I think it's more likely that the Pinnacles are a long mountain range with various sub-ranges, just like the Appalachians have the Allegheny Mountains, the Andirondocks, the Blue Ridge Mountains, etc.It certainly could be...but then I'd have to wonder why the subrange in the middle of the map would be unlabelled, while the subranges on the sides were labelled.

[dtilque]

There's no requirement that all subsections of the range have an individual name.

But consider that if the section between Passage Pass and the rightmost pass is 2000 miles, then the entire map covers about 3000 miles east-to-west or about the width of the United States. At that scale, it's unlikely that individual passes would be so prominently shown.

Anyway, the more I think about it, the more I think it likely that Burlew forgot what he named the mountains when he drew the map. But for now, I'm assuming the Summit and Molehill Mtns are subranges.

[dancrilis]

To comment in reversed order.


A note to dancrilis: dots on maps just indcate location, not the size of the feature. The same for the starred circle indicating the capital. Their sizes don't mean anything.

I get that but just was pointing out that a dot ~20 miles in diameter might not indicate the location of an underground city all that well for fine navigation.


OK, made the updates based on 1044. I didn't add the North Pole, though.
Is this just because 'the world has poles' is essentially meaningless information until we know more.

My thinking is that in 1031 Lien mentions that they are making for the pole, and in 941 Haley mentions that it is the distination - so it does seem to be a target for whatever reason.

[SirKazum]

Since this thread is popping up again, a correction - in the places list, you consistently spell it "Durokan" (in the Crooked Mountain, Dungeon of Dorukan and Redmountain Hills entries), but the correct spelling is Dorukan (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0013.html).

[Jasdoif]

Anyway, the more I think about it, the more I think it likely that Burlew forgot what he named the mountains when he drew the map. But for now, I'm assuming the Summit and Molehill Mtns are subranges.So noted.

I couldn't glean anything else out of the map. I tried assuming North from anywhere was pointing to the North Pole, and where Tinkertown could be since it's about 830 miles SSW from Zenith Peak and not on the map....Worked out to giving the map scale a rough upper limit of 11.86 miles per pixel, if Tinkertown was just past the edge. But at the upper limit that would put the section of the mountain range on the map at nearly 3,800 miles across, so clearly the scale is well below that upper limit if the Pinnacles are only 2,000 in total; so there's no usable bounding information there.

[dtilque]

Is this just because 'the world has poles' is essentially meaningless information until we know more.

More or less. I wouldn't add the equator either, even if it were marked. However, I did add Kraagor's Tomb and Monster Hollow.


Since this thread is popping up again, a correction - in the places list, you consistently spell it "Durokan" (in the Crooked Mountain, Dungeon of Dorukan and Redmountain Hills entries), but the correct spelling is Dorukan (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0013.html).

Thank you. Done.

[dtilque]

added a few places mentioned in HPGHS: Ancient Empire, Gorge Ravine, Peripheral Frontier.

Was the Ancient Empire ever named in the main strip?

[Emanick]

Was the Ancient Empire ever named in the main strip?

Thanks for the update! And no, I'm pretty sure it never has been.

[ti'esar]

It was in the W&XP guidebook excerpt, though - I was thinking maybe it didn't count because it's only a "historical" location.

[dtilque]

It was in the W&XP guidebook excerpt, though - I was thinking maybe it didn't count because it's only a "historical" location.

I have other names in the list that are not current names of countries or whatever. For instance, the former names of the Empire of Blood that Tarquin listed. I probably didn't have Ancient Empire because I had no idea what to write about it. Either that or I missed it totally. Anyway, now we have a better idea what it was.

[dtilque]

Expanded descriptions of a number of entries, especially those on the Western Continent. Added T.B.D. (also on that continent) which I'd overlooked before. Didn't add the place marked "???"; not sure what to do with that; don't really want a non-alpha section.

[dtilque]

Yet more changes, although nothing major this time. The big thing is that I noticed in DStP at the beginning of Round 4 (just after strip 550), there's a map showing the travels of the two subparties. As far as this gazetteer goes, the main thing is that it shows that Greysky City is close to the eastern coast, rather than the western coast as I had thought. That also moves Lair Island to that coast.

[knag]

Any reason why the locales on the map of the Greysky City region are not in the gazetteer?

Specifically:
Barrier River
Cove Bay
Division Mountains
Here
There
This River

also, the entry for "Tunnelsburg" is missing the "s".

[dtilque]

Any reason why the locales on the map of the Greysky City region are not in the gazetteer?
There's a map of Greysky City?

[dtilque]

OK, found the map of Greysky City area. It's on this page oots.wikia.com/wiki/Greysky_City (although I don't suggest anyone go to that page; it locked up my computer for a while). It claims it's from War and XPs (no page number given) and I'm fairly sure it's not in that book. It's done in more-or-less the same style as the Azure City map, so it looks fairly authentic. But it's the wrong book for such a map; all the scenes from Greysky were in DStP. In fact, I don't think Greysky was even mentioned by name before strip 531 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0531.html), which is in DStP.

Conclusion: it's probably fanwank.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

I flipped through both W&XPs and DStP to double check things, and the closest I found was a map on the cover to Round 4 in DStP that shows Haley and Belkar's journey from Azure City to Sunken Valley and then up to Cliffport Greysky City that could have inspired the fan-map.

[dtilque]

Yes, I just recently noticed that map (see post #65 of this thread). And you mean Greysky City as Haley's final destination on that trip.

BTW, if anyone wants to see the oots.wikia Greysky map without going to that page, do a google search for >>Greysky City map<< and look at it with Google's image viewer. For me, it was the first image in the row.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Yes, I just recently noticed that map (see post #65 of this thread). And you mean Greysky City as Haley's final destination on that trip.

Oh, yeah, that would make more sense, wouldn't it?

[knag]

OK, found the map of Greysky City area. It's on this page oots.wikia.com/wiki/Greysky_City (although I don't suggest anyone go to that page; it locked up my computer for a while). It claims it's from War and XPs (no page number given) and I'm fairly sure it's not in that book. It's done in more-or-less the same style as the Azure City map, so it looks fairly authentic. But it's the wrong book for such a map; all the scenes from Greysky were in DStP. In fact, I don't think Greysky was even mentioned by name before strip 531 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0531.html), which is in DStP.

Conclusion: it's probably fanwank.

It's from the digital edition of DStP, page BMii, above the entry on Beige Dragons. There's a section called "The sourcebook that never was". There's two other maps, the first showing the nation of Uptharnorr, which lies north of Cliffport, and the other detailing the Undescribed Country.

I could write entries for the Gazetteer for the locations from that bit if you like.

[dtilque]

I didn't buy the digital editions, figuring there wasn't enough new stuff in them to make them worthwhile. Now you're making me reconsider that.

[dtilque]

OK, got the additions from DStP Digital Edition. I didn't add entries for the "places" in the list below because, well, too vague. If anyone has an idea of what to write for them, make a suggestion.

Here
There
Undescribed Territory

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Just stumbled into this thread, and all I can say for now is this is an excellent resource and very much something I enjoy helping. You have an added subscriber, sir!

[dtilque]

Just stumbled into this thread, and all I can say for now is this is an excellent resource and very much something I enjoy helping. You have an added subscriber, sir!

Glad to have you aboard. This thread doesn't get updated very often, although every once in a while I find something new. Besides the stuff from the digital edition, I also recently added a town in the "insufficient data" section at the bottom. At least I assume a place that "sells" bridges to low Int/Wis yokels is a town.

The most recent change was in the post I'd reserved for future use (3rd post in the thread). I'd like feedback on what everyone thinks of it. What I did was slightly experimental, so I'd really appreciate responses. (Actually, on thinking it over, I should expand the bare outline with text, but different text than in the other list.)

[Jaxzan Proditor]

I think that the outline is pretty cool, and also potentially fairly useful if someone wants to get a better sense of the geography, but doesn't have all the maps in front of them.

[Lissou]

Glad to have you aboard. This thread doesn't get updated very often, although every once in a while I find something new. Besides the stuff from the digital edition, I also recently added a town in the "insufficient data" section at the bottom. At least I assume a place that "sells" bridges to low Int/Wis yokels is a town.

Are you sure it's an actual place in-universe, rather than just a reference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_to_Terabithia_(novel))? I would assume the joke works better if Terabithia does NOT exist, at any rate, since buying a bridge that leads to a fictional place shows your gullibility better than buying a bridge that leads somewhere. I mean if Redcloak had said wardrobe and Narnia instead, I wouldn't assume there is a Narnia in OOTS.

[dtilque]

Are you sure it's an actual place in-universe, rather than just a reference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_to_Terabithia_(novel))? I would assume the joke works better if Terabithia does NOT exist, at any rate, since buying a bridge that leads to a fictional place shows your gullibility better than buying a bridge that leads somewhere. I mean if Redcloak had said wardrobe and Narnia instead, I wouldn't assume there is a Narnia in OOTS.

I was unaware of the book. I just assumed the author was making a bridge to Brooklyn joke with a made up name instead of that city. OK, I guess I'll remove it.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

I'm curious why you don't have the North Pole on the list?

[dtilque]

I'm curious why you don't have the North Pole on the list?

For the same reason I wouldn't have the equator (if that were marked on the map) on the list. It's just a usual and expected part of a spherical globe. Now if it turns out there's a colony of toymaking elves run by a fat guy in red fur-lined clothes there, then I'll add it.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

For the same reason I wouldn't have the equator (if that were marked on the map) on the list. It's just a usual and expected part of a spherical globe. Now if it turns out there's a colony of toymaking elves run by a fat guy in red fur-lined clothes there, then I'll add it.

Isn't the North Pole where Kraagor's Tomb of monsters is that Serini made? Could be getting that wrong...

[SirKazum]

Isn't the North Pole where Kraagor's Tomb of monsters is that Serini made? Could be getting that wrong...

That's already listed as its own location under the alternate names "Kraagor's Tomb" and "Monster Hollow". And, while it's pretty far north into the glacial region, I don't recall seeing any mention to it being actually in the North Pole.

[hamishspence]

That's already listed as its own location under the alternate names "Kraagor's Tomb" and "Monster Hollow". And, while it's pretty far north into the glacial region, I don't recall seeing any mention to it being actually in the North Pole.

O-Chul and Lien are "within a few miles of the pole" at least:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1031.html

[TheWombatOfDoom]

O-Chul and Lien are "within a few miles of the pole" at least:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1031.html

That's when they were approaching the Gate area. In 1050 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1050.html) they've told Haley that they're at the north pole. I'm inclined to think that they're at the pole, or pretty much right next to it.

[SirKazum]

That's when they were approaching the Gate area. In 1050 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1050.html) they've told Haley that they're at the north pole. I'm inclined to think that they're at the pole, or pretty much right next to it.

Oh, I missed that. Yeah, from the dialogue it seems like Monster Hollow is actually on the north pole.

[FreddyNoNose]

+10 golden points to the OP for the great work!

[dtilque]

+10 golden points to the OP for the great work!

Thank you.

[FreddyNoNose]

Thank you.

When you get a million golden points, you are able to trade them in for a little eraser or a stick of gum.