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Lord Torath
2015-05-22, 11:55 AM
Troglodytes have a cloud of musk that requires a save vs poison to avoid losing 1d6 points of strength (temporarily) from the stench. So what happens when you're wearing a magic item that sets your strength to a particular level? The magic item is immune to the musk (no sense of smell), so it should still function at its normal effectiveness. The musk requires a poison save, so is it making you feel ill, reducing your effectiveness? Or is it a poison that literally saps the strength from your muscles, weakening you?

Ghasts have a similar "musk cloud," but failing your save (again, vs poison) results in a -2 to hit (retching and nauseousness making it hard to fight). That makes me think that the Troglodyte musk actually attacks your strength. Meaning that if you have strength-setting magic (girdles or giant strength or gauntlets of ogre power), you're immune to trog musk. Strength-boosting magic, like a Strength spell, however, would not make you immune.

LibraryOgre
2015-05-22, 12:38 PM
Loss of strength doesn't affect magically set strength values, but penalties to hit matter.

The Glyphstone
2015-05-22, 12:55 PM
Does it affect the base Strength value underneath? Like, if you have Strength 12 with Gauntlets of Ogre Power setting your strength at 18, and you fail a save vs. Trog musk, is your Strength now 12-1d6, set to 18, so if you take the gauntlets off your weakened strength takes effect?

Lord Torath
2015-05-22, 01:08 PM
Does it affect the base Strength value underneath? Like, if you have Strength 12 with Gauntlets of Ogre Power setting your strength at 18, and you fail a save vs. Trog musk, is your Strength now 12-1d6, set to 18, so if you take the gauntlets off your weakened strength takes effect?
Oh, sure. If the poison's effect hasn't ended by the time you take your Strength off, your natural strength still takes the hit. Assuming you failed your save, of course.