The dragon [Spoilers]

[Finwe]

Do you think that after the battle, if azure city wins, the OOTS or azure city will go through the trouble to resurrect the silver dragon? It is known that they have at least one diamond that is suitable for a resurrection spell, as seen here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0410.html). A dragon of that size would be a powerful ally. From a plot perspective, I can't really see it happening, but it would definitely be cool, and it's certainly plausible.

[jindra34]

Why not resurrect it now?

[Finwe]

If they could get part of its remains to a safe spot with a cleric who had prepared the spell, then yeah, that would be a good idea. I'm not sure that many clerics would have a resurrection spell prepared the day of a battle: that more of a post-battle thing.

[jindra34]

there is a part by V...

[Black Mage]

I could see one of the higher level clerics preparing the spell just incase one of the more powerful people in the battle died (Hinjo for example). I know I would want to get the more powerful people up and running again just incase the enemy decided to take the dead bodies or turn them into their own undead minions.

[Assassinfox]

They're gonna need to resurrect Roy first, though. :smallamused:

[jindra34]

They're gonna need to resurrect Roy first, though. :smallamused:

ohh... you do not see my plan... res the dragon under roy... hehehe Xykon would FREAK

[Tharivol123]

Maybe Durkon will res the dragon and ride it into battle. We know from the battle between Miko and Belkar that he must have Resurrection, or else Belkar would not have taken the risk that he did.

[Setra]

Maybe Durkon will res the dragon and ride it into battle. We know from the battle between Miko and Belkar that he must have Resurrection, or else Belkar would not have taken the risk that he did.
Yeah but he doesn't quite have the Diamonds needed.

[TigerHunter]

Time out. What's the difference between Resurrect and Raise Dead?

[jindra34]

Time out. What's the difference between Resurrect and Raise Dead?

Ressurect is a stronger version of Raise Dead...

[Mewtarthio]

Time out. What's the difference between Resurrect and Raise Dead?

Raise Dead requires a decently intact body and does not work if the victim was subjected to certain necromancy spells (such as being slain by death magic or being reanimated as an undead). Resurrection has no such problems: Any piece of the body will suffice, provided it was part of the victim at the time of death. Then there's True Resurrection, which doesn't even need a body (provided you can "unambiguously" identify the deceased somehow) and has no side effects (besides the diamonds you lose).

[Setra]

Ressurect is a stronger version of Raise Dead...
That also requires twice the amount of diamonds, which I'm not sure Durkon has.

[Vale]

That also requires twice the amount of diamonds, which I'm not sure Durkon has.

Well, as alluded to above, one of AC's clerics could do it instead of Durkon. He'll be too busy fighting the Huecuva on Monday, Wednesday and Friday of next week anyway to do any Resurrect (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/resurrection.htm)ing. (because The Giant is a meany-pants and wants to torment us by ignoring Roy! :smalltongue:)

Only problem with Roy dying and then being resurrected back, is that he'd lose a level. At least in the srd rules. That'd suck for the poor guy, he's already quite a ways behind Xykon, he doesn't need to fall further back.
Still, if they raise Roy, give him a cure crit wounds spell, and then resurrect the Dragon... Well then... That'd give Xykon et al some issues. :smallamused: Maybe even the MitD would have trouble one-on-one with an ancient silver dragon.

[K2]

Why bother raising Roy? If you ask me that silver dragon would make a much better team leader.

[Vale]

Why bother raising Roy? If you ask me that silver dragon would make a much better team leader.

Probably :smalltongue: They have an intelligence of 26, wisdom of 27, nice high 26 charisma... Caster level of 15... Only problem might be navigating through the doors when they go on their next dungeon crawl. But I suppose a strength of 35 would MAKE a door if he wanted one.

OK, change of plans! Res the dragon. Then have it use Roy's corpse as a weapon(throw the meatbag as hard as the dragon can at the enemy.)

[Black Mage]

Probably :smalltongue: They have an intelligence of 26, wisdom of 27, nice high 26 charisma... Caster level of 15... Only problem might be navigating through the doors when they go on their next dungeon crawl. But I suppose a strength of 35 would MAKE a door if he wanted one.

OK, change of plans! Res the dragon. Then have it use Roy's corpse as a weapon(throw the meatbag as hard as the dragon can at the enemy.)


Alternate Form (Su)
A silver dragon can assume any animal or humanoid form of Medium size or smaller as a standard action three times per day. The dragon can remain in its animal or humanoid form until it chooses to assume a new one or return to its natural form.

We have the size issue solved.

[Vale]

w00t! There's no downside then :D

Although, I assume that a human-form dragon doesn't have all the sexily high AC/spell resistance/damage reduction that a normal one does? Or would this human have skin as tough as dragonscales?

[Black Mage]

Alternate Form
A creature with this special quality has the ability to assume one or more specific alternate forms. A true seeing spell or ability reveals the creature’s natural form. A creature using alternate form reverts to its natural form when killed, but separated body parts retain their shape. A creature cannot use alternate form to take the form of a creature with a template. Assuming an alternate form results in the following changes to the creature:

The creature retains the type and subtype of its original form. It gains the size of its new form. If the new form has the aquatic subtype, the creature gains that subtype as well.
The creature loses the natural weapons, natural armor, and movement modes of its original form, as well as any extraordinary special attacks of its original form not derived from class levels (such as the barbarian’s rage class feature).
The creature gains the natural weapons, natural armor, movement modes, and extraordinary special attacks of its new form.
The creature retains the special qualities of its original form. It does not gain any special qualities of its new form.
The creature retains the spell-like abilities and supernatural attacks of its old form (except for breath weapons and gaze attacks). It does not gain the spell-like abilities or attacks of its new form. Apply any changed physical ability score modifiers in all appropriate areas with one exception: the creature retains the hit points of its original form despite any change to its Constitution.
The creature gains the physical ability scores (Str, Dex, Con) of its new form. It retains the mental ability scores (Int, Wis, Cha) of its original form.
The creature retains its hit points and save bonuses, although its save modifiers may change due to a change in ability scores.
Except as described elsewhere, the creature retains all other game statistics of its original form, including (but not necessarily limited to) HD, hit points, skill ranks, feats, base attack bonus, and base save bonuses.
The creature retains any spellcasting ability it had in its original form, although it must be able to speak intelligibly to cast spells with verbal components and it must have humanlike hands to cast spells with somatic components.
The creature is effectively camouflaged as a creature of its new form, and it gains a +10 bonus on Disguise checks if it uses this ability to create a disguise.
Any gear worn or carried by the creature that can’t be worn or carried in its new form instead falls to the ground in its space. If the creature changes size, any gear it wears or carries that can be worn or carried in its new form changes size to match the new size. (Nonhumanoid-shaped creatures can’t wear armor designed for humanoid-shaped creatures, and vice versa.) Gear returns to normal size if dropped.

So, it loses AC and it's breath weapon. But is still a 15th level caster. And has a ton of HP. And would probably be better in melee than Roy anyways.

[Demented]

Downside is that chances are he can cast Raise Dead but not Resurrection. Which rules out raising the dragon. One of the higher-level Clerics in AC could certainly do it, though.

[factotum]

Even if someone COULD cast that spell, I believe it takes at least ten minutes to cast--I doubt anyone is going to have time for that sort of thing in the middle of the battle!

[Vale]

eh, depends. If the recover Roy, then he might have a bit of Dragon stuck in him/on him, eg: a bit of bone. 10 minutes is a pretty long time in a battle(especially to be occupying one of your top clerics), but the result would be pretty huge.

Maybe the head that fell on the Death Knight would be good enough to power the spell, since it was detached pretty close to the time when the dragon 'died' again.

I'm more than a bit fuzzy on the rules for ressurecting a re-deaded zombie. The head was a part of the dragon when it died the first time, would that satisfy the "portion receiving the spell must have been part of the creature’s body at the time of death" requirement?

Seems possible to me, since later in the spell description (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/resurrection.htm) they distinguish between "death" and when an undead is "destroyed".

If the head is enough, and Hinjo or some general saw it/understood the significance, I think it'd be a reasonable move to have it carted off to a cleric for a ressurect. They could do it from (presumed) safety hiding behind the walls, and a very angry ancient dragon joining your forces in a battle... Well it'd be a bit demoralising for the enemy and give renewed strength to your own soldiers to see that beast flying up into the air.