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CrazyYanmega
2015-06-03, 02:08 AM
I'm planning on taking Frozen Wildshape at level 15, and am going to use Enhance Wildshape to snag the healing factor. But do I get the breath weapon?

Snowbluff
2015-06-03, 02:14 AM
Supernatural, unless other wise noted, which it isn't.

Breath Weapon

A creature attacking with a breath weapon is actually expelling something from its mouth (rather than conjuring it by means of a spell or some other magical effect). Most creatures with breath weapons are limited to a number of uses per day or by a minimum length of time that must pass between uses. Such creatures are usually smart enough to save their breath weapon until they really need it.

Using a breath weapon is typically a standard action.
No attack roll is necessary. The breath simply fills its stated area.
A breath weapon attack usually deals damage and is often based on some type of energy.
Breath weapons usually allow a Reflex save for half damage (DC 10 + ½ breathing creature’s racial HD + breathing creature’s Con modifier; the exact DC is given in the creature’s descriptive text). Some breath weapons allow a Fortitude save or a Will save instead of a Reflex save.
Breath weapons are supernatural abilities except where noted.
A creature is immune to its own breath weapon unless otherwise noted.
Creatures unable to breathe can still use breath weapons. (The term is something of a misnomer.)


As a rule of thumb, check the universal monster abilities if it doesn't say outright.

CrazyYanmega
2015-06-03, 02:17 AM
Thank you Snowbluff.

Snowbluff
2015-06-03, 02:31 AM
Thank you Snowbluff.

You're welcome. Good luck, have fun. :smallsmile:

Crake
2015-06-03, 03:30 AM
One could argue that their ability to breath out jets of cold isn't actually a special ability, since it's not actually listed as such, and is merely a natural ability, since it's not actually written under any ability name, just mentioned in the monster entry. Similar to how hydras can attack with all their heads after moving, despite it not actually being mentioned under any special ability anywhere, merely under the creature's combat text.

Venger
2015-06-03, 04:26 AM
One could argue that their ability to breath out jets of cold isn't actually a special ability, since it's not actually listed as such, and is merely a natural ability, since it's not actually written under any ability name, just mentioned in the monster entry. Similar to how hydras can attack with all their heads after moving, despite it not actually being mentioned under any special ability anywhere, merely under the creature's combat text.

that way lies madness.

I know you're joking and all, but that really is (considering the feat) a slippery slope.