[3.5?] Ring of Theme Songs source

[Keegan__D]

I cannot find a source for the Ring of Them Songs (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Ring_of_Theme_Songs_%283.5e_Equipment%29) from the DandDWiki. It doesn't say that it's homebrew on the page, so I'm inclined to believe that it's from a Wizards source, but I was under the impression that the DandDWiki only had material from the SRD, and I'm certain that this isn't in there.

[Troacctid]

It's someone's homebrew.

[Keegan__D]

It's someone's homebrew.

>.< So they don't have to label their material as homebrew anymore?

[Karl Aegis]

It's better to assume that everything on DandDwiki is homebrew. If it is "official" it's from an April edition of Paizo's magazine. It definitely is third party.

[Sian]

DandDwiki is notoriously horrible at showing what is homebrew and what aren't, so the natural inclination should be to see it as Homebrew unless it can be found otherplace clearly showing the source

[Venger]

I cannot find a source for the Ring of Them Songs (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Ring_of_Theme_Songs_%283.5e_Equipment%29) from the DandDWiki. It doesn't say that it's homebrew on the page, so I'm inclined to believe that it's from a Wizards source, but I was under the impression that the DandDWiki only had material from the SRD, and I'm certain that this isn't in there.

everything on dandwiki is someone's terrible homebrew. never assume it's from an official source. the site with srd material is d20srd (http://www.d20srd.org/)

dandwiki does not label its homebrew, and often has multiple pages with the same names as real things that are similar but have changes all throughout. don't use it to check on rules.

[nyjastul69]

It's kinda buried through several links. The bottom left has Generated Homebrew pages. After that, click, 3.5e homebrew. Then click equipment. Then click rings. See easy as pie. ;) Okay, now I feel dirty. I need to go shower.

[Jormengand]

>.< So they don't have to label their material as homebrew anymore?
It's better to assume that everything on DandDwiki is homebrew. If it is "official" it's from an April edition of Paizo's magazine. It definitely is third party.
DandDwiki is notoriously horrible at showing what is homebrew and what aren't, so the natural inclination should be to see it as Homebrew unless it can be found otherplace clearly showing the source
everything on dandwiki is someone's terrible homebrew. never assume it's from an official source. the site with srd material is d20srd (http://www.d20srd.org/)

All of this is incorrect. Anything that is SRD is labelled as SRD and anything that isn't, isn't. Compare the fighter at http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Fighter with the marshal at http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Marshal_%283.5e_Class%29

Further, neither the Dandwiki SRD nor the D20srd SRD is the actual one. Both are (very but not entirely accurate) copies of the SRD.

[Sian]

it might actually show if its SRD or not, but it sure makes it as difficult to figure out as possible ... and certainly doesn't live up to any kind of standard for readability and comprehension.

[Jormengand]

it might actually show if its SRD or not, but it sure makes it as difficult to figure out as possible...

What, by putting it in the URL? The Uniform Resource Locator, the thing which is designed to unambiguously designate a particular resource on the internet?

[ryu]

What, by putting it in the URL? The Uniform Resource Locator, the thing which is designed to unambiguously designate a particular resource on the internet?

The thing that's in tiny little type at the top of the screen that almost no one uses short of typing in simple website names? We haven't gone back to the early 2000s have we?

[Telonius]

Dandwiki is much, much improved from what it used to be. It was just so utterly awful for so long, that a lot of people still don't trust a single thing that has "dandwiki" in the URL at all. I think we developed the reflex around 2009 or so.

[Jormengand]

The thing that's in tiny little type at the top of the screen that almost no one uses short of typing in simple website names? We haven't gone back to the early 2000s have we?

It is literally the unambiguous designator of that webpage. There is absolutely no better place to put that information than in the goddamned URL. If you're not reading the URL of every new site you're visiting, for starters, you have no good way to know whether you can trust the site or even if it's the site you think it is.

[ryu]

It is literally the unambiguous designator of that webpage. There is absolutely no better place to put that information than in the goddamned URL. If you're not reading the URL of every new site you're visiting, for starters, you have no good way to know whether you can trust the site or even if it's the site you think it is.

Which is why I mentioned the one time it's used. People typing in names from sites they wish to visit for the first time. There's being safe, and then there's just not even expecting basic site design niceties like having the damn title visible on page. Ideally in some easily recognizable form that isn't hard to find.

[Thurbane]

everything on dandwiki is someone's terrible homebrew. never assume it's from an official source. the site with srd material is d20srd (http://www.d20srd.org/)

Also, this (which in some ways I prefer the layout of): System Reference Document v3.5 (http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/resources/systems/pennpaper/dnd35/soveliorsage/home.html)