Let's make a character together! [3.5, potentially silly]

[Jormengand]

Okay, this is a silly idea, but...

We're going to make a 3.5 character together. And it's going to be fun.

Here (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=237430) is the sheet for this character. Each field is going to be filled out by the next person to post - obviously, because you won't have edit permission, you will just have to say in order what it's going to be. Any fields that are determined automatically by a previous one are skipped over (and filled in later when I go through it). For example, the Level field will be determined entirely by the current XP field, as will the level field. The CHA field will be determined by the other five - let's use 32 pb for this. Level? Don't make it epic, or anything horrid like that, otherwise doesn't matter. Sources? Let's try to keep it largely core or something you can link to, so that everyone can take part without suddenly realising they don't know how to build a warblade/initiate of the sevenfold veil/truenamer/whatever.

So, the fields should go in order:

Character Name
Alignment
Current XP
Class
Race
Deity
Age
Gender (Androgynous name only, otherwise auto-fill)
Height
Weight
Eyes (If character has eyes)
Hair (Ditto hair)
STR
DEX
CON
INT
WIS (For all, only if character has that stat)
Weapon
Add more weapons or skip to armour
Shield
Feats up to max feats +2 (for flaws) or move to skills after max feats
Each person chooses a skill to put points in and how many until all points spent.
Other Possessions (until someone skips to languages)
Languages (until run out)
Each person chooses a spell or power or equivalent ability of any level until all have been chosen.
People add lines to description, personality, traits (max 2), flaws (max 2), contacts/friends, enemies and other notes until someone decides to skip to the next one.

So, let's begin! :smallbiggrin:

[Hamste]

I go with Pyrom Juror for the name.

[Extra Anchovies]

They will be of Lawful Neutral alignment.

[Venico]

Lawful Neutral sounds good

[TheEmperor]

190,001 XP, because I'm interested to see shenanigans with a high level character similar to Twitch Plays Pokemon

[Extra Anchovies]

Suggestion: Instead of one person picking this character's class, each person declares one class level, so we can end up with some crazy multiclass stuff. If you post a PrC, make sure they can qualify by the level that you have them enter.


190,001 XP, because I'm interested to see shenanigans with a high level character similar to Twitch Plays Pokemon

Maybe they're just a first-level wizard with a lot of scrolls.

[AvatarVecna]

Monk. Because monk.

[Hiro Quester]

Class would be next. But how about one post per class? Add another class in the next post?

I'll start. It should include at least one level of Barbarian.

Edit:ninjad. But wizard/monk/barbarian could be interesting.

[AvatarVecna]

Class would be next. But how about one post per class? Add another class in the next post?

I'll start. It should include at least one level of Barbarian.

Edit:ninjad. But wizard/monk/barbarian could be interesting.

Ninja'd by a monk. Appropriate.

[Extra Anchovies]

Hm. So we have monk/barbarian so far. Maybe we can figure out the exact number of each class levels later? Monk 2/Barbarian 2 would be a good start to an unarmed combat maneuver build, and we want this guy to be at least playable.

[Amphetryon]

Race: Raptoran

[Seerow]

Deity: Nerull because why not

[ExLibrisMortis]

Deity: Nerull because why not
Lawful Neutral kind of clashes with that, but okay, Nerull's least favourite follower.

There should be a level in cloistered cleric in there, for the tasty domains. This character badly needs more options.

(so what if that makes Pyrom even less popular with Nerull, Pyrom is alternative)

[AvatarVecna]

Hm. So we have monk/barbarian so far. Maybe we can figure out the exact number of each class levels later? Monk 2/Barbarian 2 would be a good start to an unarmed combat maneuver build, and we want this guy to be at least playable.

Why???????

[Snowbluff]

Age: forty two

[Extra Anchovies]

Age: forty two

Alright. Bringing up RotW, that's past starting age and well before middle age.

We still have a lot of XP to spend. Are we just monk X/barbarian Y or do we want to add some more classes?

[nedz]

Alright. Bringing up RotW, that's past starting age and well before middle age.

We still have a lot of XP to spend. Are we just monk X/barbarian Y or do we want to add some more classes?

Ninja and Swordsage obviously.

2 levels of each I guess ?

[Bad Wolf]

Or we could Wizard and then go Rage Mage. Let's do a few levels of wizard.

[Saintheart]

Gender: Female, because Imperator Furiosa is cool.

[GreatDane]

So far, Pyrom Juror is a 42-year-old female raptoran. She's a lawful neutral follower of Nerull who has spent 36,000 of her 190,001 XP on the following class levels (in order):

Monk 2 / barbarian 2 / cloistered cleric 1 / ninja 2 / swordsage 2.

Rolling randomly on the Raptoran table, I will add that she's 6' 11" and weighs 195 pounds.

[Callin]

Pick up Wild Talent and go with a few levels of War Mind. I like 5 levels for hitting multiple people with each attack, but every level gives good stuff. So no less than 5 but maybe no more than 8 to leave room for more mischief...

[Amphetryon]

Pick up Wild Talent and go with a few levels of War Mind. I like 5 levels for hitting multiple people with each attack, but every level gives good stuff. So no less than 5 but maybe no more than 8 to leave room for more mischief...

How many levels did we have left, given 5 levels of War Mind? Ruathar seems an easy fit.

[Callin]

9 from previous levels. 5 from War Mind makes it 14 with 6 levels left over

[ZamielVanWeber]

3 of Ruathar then.

[Amphetryon]

At the risk of seeming to take over too much of the Character, 3 levels Paragnostic Initiate (Complete Champion).

[Jormengand]

Updated, going to give her red eyes because whatever.

[daremetoidareyo]

Updated, going to give her red eyes because whatever.

We can explain those red eyes with her white hair. She's an albino, ya'll.

Edit (inspiration): ascetic stalker for her bonus monk feat at 2nd level.

[ZamielVanWeber]

At the risk of seeming to take over too much of the Character, 3 levels Paragnostic Initiate (Complete Champion).

It beat my initial suggestion of entamanothrope. Also I like Ruathar personally.

[nedz]

I would like to propose that she have some CHA.

[Snowbluff]

Okay.
Strength: 14.

[Ettina]

How are we doing the stats? Do we just say a number? Or do we say which stat we're assigning?

I want her to have a 7 in something, because one really low stat can make a character more interesting RP-wise.

[Bad Wolf]

I want to add a few levels in wizard
You can get +4 from familiar and +4 from improved initiative.

[Jormengand]

How are we doing the stats? Do we just say a number? Or do we say which stat we're assigning?

I want her to have a 7 in something, because one really low stat can make a character more interesting RP-wise.

In order, STR has been called as 14, CHA is determined by remaining points.

[Ettina]

In order, STR has been called as 14, CHA is determined by remaining points.

7 Dex then.

[daremetoidareyo]

how much Cha are we talking here?

CHA and INT are the only dump stats. And enough intelligence to power those knowledge skills would actually make this character semi-playable with the addition of that knowledge devotion feat on top of the bonuses offered by warmind and paragnostic initiate.

Edit: ninja'd on dex.

[Karl Aegis]

14 Constitution

[Seerow]

edit: forgot int comes after con, not wis.

14 int

[daremetoidareyo]

Wisdom = 16.

[annulus]

Weapon: +1 plantsbane distance merciful prismatic burstMIC net

[Saintheart]

Assuming I'm not to be ignored because I've already called gender --

Armor: Ectoplasmic Skin of Armor (MIC) and Dastana (A&EG).

[Bad Wolf]

Three levels in wizard.

EDIT: Never mind, ran out of levels because no paid attention to my suggestions.

[Snowbluff]

Shields: +5 Soulfire Buckler and +5 Empyreal Twilight Light Mithril Shield with +1 Defending Shield Spikes. :smalltongue:

[Bad Wolf]

Feat: Improved Natural Attack.

[annulus]

Not adding anything, just pointing out that I edited my weapon submission to have several enhancements.


Weapon: +1 plantsbane distance merciful prismatic burstMIC net

[Somensjev]

Feat: Improved initiative. so that she can do what ever she does before everyone else :smalltongue:

[Snowbluff]

Feat: Leadership because we're being meta. :smalltongue:

"I play Shaharazard" - Jerk MTG player.

[Extra Anchovies]

Feat: Leadership because we're being meta. :smalltongue:

"I play Shaharazard" - Jerk MTG player.

Hey! Shahrazad is one of my favorite cards! Gotta love the ones that are banned even in Vintage format.

[Snowbluff]

Hey! Shahrazad is one of my favorite cards! Gotta love the ones that are banned even in Vintage format.

For some of us, 8 hour EDH matches are a bit long. :smalltongue:

[daremetoidareyo]

Let's give her knowledge devotion feat, you know, seeing as how she's all cloistered.

[Saintheart]

Right, so, thus far:

Pyrom Juror is a 42-year-old female raptoran. She's a lawful neutral follower of Nerull. Has red eyes and white hair, she's an albino. A 6'11, 195 pound albino.

Monk 2/ Barbarian 2 / Cloistered Cleric 1 / Ninja 2 / Swordsage 2 / War Mind 5 / Ruathar 3 / Paragnostic Initiate 3

STR 14, DEX 7, CON 14, INT 14, WIS 16, CHA 13

Weapon: +1 plantsbane distance merciful prismatic burst (MIC) net
Armor: Ectoplasmic Skin of Armor (MIC) and Dastana (A&EG).
Shields: +5 Soulfire Buckler and +5 Empyreal Twilight Light Mithril Shield with +1 Defending Shield Spikes

Feats: Improved Natural Attack, Improved Initiative, Leadership, Knowledge Devotion ... I count 5 feats left including 2 flaw feats?

[Snowbluff]

Do you ever feel like you've lost control of your life? :smalltongue:

[Saintheart]

Do you ever feel like you've lost control of your life? :smalltongue:

Oh come on. We haven't put any Frenzied Berserker in there. :smalltongue: :smalltongue:

[annulus]

This character is too practically optimized for my tastes.

[daremetoidareyo]

Don't forget wild talent

Add flyby attack to that ish.

[Bad Wolf]

I have a desire to run this as an NPC in a story.

[Saintheart]

Updated:

Pyrom Juror is a 42-year-old female raptoran. She's a lawful neutral follower of Nerull. Has red eyes and white hair, she's an albino. A 6'11, 195 pound albino.

Monk 2/ Barbarian 2 / Cloistered Cleric 1 / Ninja 2 / Swordsage 2 / War Mind 5 / Ruathar 3 / Paragnostic Initiate 3

STR 14, DEX 7, CON 14, INT 14, WIS 16, CHA 13

Weapon: +1 plantsbane distance merciful prismatic burst (MIC) net
Armor: Ectoplasmic Skin of Armor (MIC) and Dastana (A&EG).
Shields: +5 Soulfire Buckler and +5 Empyreal Twilight Light Mithril Shield with +1 Defending Shield Spikes

Feats: Improved Natural Attack, Improved Initiative, Leadership, Knowledge Devotion, Wild Talent, Flyby Attack ... 3 feats left (including 2 flaw feats).



This is getting to Brigadier-level silliness. More I say! :smallsmile:

[nedz]

Feat: Leadership because we're being meta. :smalltongue:

Oh good, now we have to build the Cohort too.

[Saintheart]

Oh good, now we have to build the Cohort too.

Sweeeeeeeeet, the cohort can get up to level 18, I can totally get that Midgard Dwarf Truenamer 6 I've always wanted to see!

[Snowbluff]

Sweeeeeeeeet, the cohort can get up to level 18, I can totally get that Midgard Dwarf Truenamer 6 I've always wanted to see!

I'm partial to Fiend of Possession.

[nedz]

Sweeeeeeeeet, the cohort can get up to level 18, I can totally get that Midgard Dwarf Truenamer 6 I've always wanted to see!


I'm partial to Fiend of Possession.

Hmm, so the challenge is to get a Midgard Dwarf Truenamer into Fiend of Possession.:smallcool:

[ExLibrisMortis]

Hmm, so the challenge is to get a Midgard Dwarf Truenamer into Fiend of Possession.:smallcool:
Requirements: outsider (evil), +5 base will save, 6 ranks hide and k(arcana). Fiend of Possession is 6 levels long, midgard dwarves have 8 RHD and +4 LA, so we'll need to cut some, also to accomodate truenamer levels. As it stands, the cohort can be level 17 (not 18 - Leadership caps at 17).

The base will save and hide skill ranks are taken care of by the 8 RHD (hide is actually a class skill for midgard dwarves). You need an extra rank of k(arcana) somewhere, which one truenamer level can easily provide.

So basically, if we can get the [evil] subtype on a midgard dwarf (they're already outsiders), for LA +0, the cohort could be a midgard dwarf 8+4/truenamer 1/fiend of possession 4, ECL 17.

[ZamielVanWeber]

Savage Species has a ritual that lets you add on subtypes. To gain evil it is best if the dwarf is evil (requires a DC 10 will save to succeed) and costs 56,000 gp and 2240 exp.

[Jormengand]

Pyrom (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=237430)'s loyal cohort (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=239672) stands ready. Please specify if you wish to add to the cohort.

[daremetoidareyo]

Martial study feat for level 18.

[Jormengand]

Updated! :smallbiggrin:

[1pwny]

2 more feats from possible flaws, right? Here's one: Improved Cohort

I suggest that the next person choose Extra Followers for the other one. :smalltongue:

[nedz]

Pyrom's Leadership score is 21; which gives her a Level 14, rather than 17, Cohort as well as a number of followers.

We still have 50 x 1st level, 5 x 2nd level, 3 x 3rd level, 2 x 4th level and 1 x 5th level followers to define: this could be a long thread.

[1pwny]

Pyrom's Leadership score is 21; which gives her a Level 14, rather than 17, Cohort as well as a number of followers.

We still have 50 x 1st level, 5 x 2nd level, 3 x 3rd level, 2 x 4th level and 1 x 5th level followers to define: this could be a long thread.

A-ha, but you forget: When we describe Pyrom in our final moments of brilliance, we can give him the reputation as a man of Greatly Reknowned Fairness and Generosity with a Special Power. That's a +4 increase to Leadership score right there! :smallcool:

And why don't we mention his fortress, which is very attractive to possible followers.

[Amphetryon]

A-ha, but you forget: When we describe Pyrom in our final moments of brilliance, we can give him the reputation as a man of Greatly Reknowned Fairness and Generosity with a Special Power. That's a +4 increase to Leadership score right there! :smallcool:

And why don't we mention his fortress, which is very attractive to possible followers.

Her. Pyrom is female.

[Saintheart]

2 more feats from possible flaws, right? Here's one: Improved Cohort

I suggest that the next person choose Extra Followers for the other one. :smalltongue:

Tempting as this is, I'm going to call the only appropriate final flaw feat for Pyrom: Weapon Focus (Unarmed Strike). Can't let that Improved Natural Attack go to waste! :smalltongue: :smallbiggrin:

[ZeroNumerous]

Her. Pyrom is female.

A reputation of being a man would be very special if they're not a man in the first place.

[Saintheart]

A reputation of being a man would be very special if they're not a man in the first place.

We're going to need some Perform ranks in there so s/he can rock out to "Dude Looks Like A Lady".

[Karl Aegis]

16 ranks in Balance.

[dysprosium]

If we are trying to make her a legal playable character we might want to examine a couple things.

LN Cloistered Cleric of Nerull will not work since she is two steps away from Nerull's alignment which is NE. She would not get any of the benefits for being a Cleric. To fix this we should add the feat Heretic of the Faith from Power of Faerun as it allows Clerics of any deity to be two steps away.

Monk and Barbarian do not mix alignment wise. Monks must be lawful and Barbarians cannot be lawful. Furthermore we need to be non chaotic to get into War Mind. A lawful Barbarian loses his rage ability--though that implies that the Barbarian somehow becomes lawful. As written she would not have been able to enter Barbarian as she was still lawful.

To fix this we should switch the Barbarian and Monk level order so that she started Barbarian and soon found her inner peace so to speak and entered the Monk class.

I believe that covers the largest issues here. The other prestige classes listed have skill or BAB requirements that can be easily met without issue. It just prefills in skills to meet the prerequisites.

War Mind: Knowledge (history) 2 ranks, Knowledge (psionics) 8 ranks
Paragnostic Initiate: Knowledge (arcana) 2 ranks, Knowledge (religion) 2 ranks, and other two Knowledges 2 ranks each (and look above for those needs to be met!)

So I guess I am suggesting to add the feat Herertic of the Faith, suggesting the switcheroo of the first two classes, and suggesting to prefill the required Knowledge skill ranks.

[ExLibrisMortis]

Ah, cool feat, dysprosium, thanks :smallbiggrin:.

We are trading barbarian 2 class features for whirlpouncetrip, right? And using fractional base attack/saves?

The whirling frenzy is lost on becoming lawful, as it's just like rage, but flurry should have 6 5 attacks with Pyrom's 17 base attack. Each of which is a sweeping strike, from war mind 5, and can be used on a charge, from pouncebarian. You can't use sweeping strike if you've moved more than 10 feet since the end of your last turn, but charges just about work with 10' distance. It's a tricky combat plan, but it's pretty cool when it works, I imagine.

[ZamielVanWeber]

Flurry of blows follows a table. Since Pyrom never advanced it her choices are:
Full attack at 17/12/7/2 or Flurry at -1/-1

[Extra Anchovies]

Flurry of blows follows a table. Since Pyrom never advanced it her choices are:
Full attack at 17/12/7/2 or Flurry at -1/-1

yaaaay for monks :smalltongue:

[ExLibrisMortis]

Flurry of blows follows a table. Since Pyrom never advanced it her choices are:
Full attack at 17/12/7/2 or Flurry at -1/-1
Eh I did forget the lack of second attack (I was thinking of tashalatora psywar for some reason, who gets flurry regardless of monk level), but pyrom still gets five attacks on a flurry. Look at the text for flurry of blows:


When unarmored, a monk may strike with a flurry of blows at the expense of accuracy. When doing so, she may make one extra attack in a round at her highest base attack bonus, but this attack takes a –2 penalty, as does each other attack made that round. The resulting modified base attack bonuses are shown in the Flurry of Blows Attack Bonus column on Table 3–10: The Monk. This penalty applies for 1 round, so it also affects attacks of opportunity the monk might make before her next action. When a monk reaches 5th level, the penalty lessens to –1, and at 9th level it disappears. A monk must use a full attack action (see page 143) to strike with a flurry of blows.

[...]

When a monk reaches 11th level, her flurry of blows ability improves. In addition to the standard single extra attack she gets from flurry of blows, she gets a second extra attack at her full base attack bonus.

The table only lists the results from the calculation, it's not the source of the ability. Pyrom can flurry at +15/+15/+10/+5/+0.

[ZamielVanWeber]

Oops. I just read the text. Flurry would actually be 15/15/10/5/0. Not nearly as painful.

Edit: got ninja'd correcting my own mistake

[Jormengand]

Woah, so can someone summarise what I'm doing to this thing?

[daremetoidareyo]

Ah, cool feat, dysprosium, thanks :smallbiggrin:.

We are trading barbarian 2 class features for whirlpouncetrip, right? And using fractional base attack/saves?

The whirling frenzy is lost on becoming lawful, as it's just like rage, but flurry should have 6 5 attacks with Pyrom's 17 base attack. Each of which is a sweeping strike, from war mind 5, and can be used on a charge, from pouncebarian. You can't use sweeping strike if you've moved more than 10 feet since the end of your last turn, but charges just about work with 10' distance. It's a tricky combat plan, but it's pretty cool when it works, I imagine.

And flyby attack makes that 10' move pretty easy each turn.

EDIT: We need to break down skills points as per the previous poster suggested, we need to assign initiator skills and stances (for swordsage levels 1 and 2 and martial study at level 18 (as per 10th level swordsage), and assign bonus stat boosts, and maybe choose some ACFs. Is there another bonus monk feat?

[Bad Wolf]

For the sake of time, I say we have all the first level followers be the same build. I say Cloistered Clerics of Nerull.

[daremetoidareyo]

We still have 50 x 1st level, 5 x 2nd level, 3 x 3rd level, 2 x 4th level and 1 x 5th level followers to define: this could be a long thread.

Those two forth level cohorts should be:
1.) Silverbrow human bard 1/marshal 2/dragonshaman 1
with dragonfire inspiration, extra music, and dilate aura:
The Marshall aura's chosen should be over the top, motivate ardor, and the DS aura is power (1d6+2 to damage, + charisma bonus to damage on a charge).

And

2.) Human crusader 1/sword sage 2/crusader 1
with scribe marshal script, apprentice:craftsman, and extra-ordinary artisan. Leading the charge initiator stance (+ initiator level to charge damage) when in battle, and the rest of the time writing martial scripts for pyrom and the dwarf to use)

[nedz]

The second level ones should be Halfling Halfling-Rogue / Warlocks: 3d6 lasers, so long as you don't see them coming.

[dysprosium]

For the sake of time, I say we have all the first level followers be the same build. I say Cloistered Clerics of Nerull.

And these followers should have Heretic of the Faith as well. It helps build the heretical ideals that we're going for here.

[Hamste]

Has the cohort been named yet? If not naming it is Con Aniac.

[daremetoidareyo]

3 3rd level followers:

3 anthropomorphic bats:
Deadly hunter ACF druid 3 with urban companion ACFs (animated welcome mats) and favored enemy: human
with greenbound summoning and planar touchstone: catalogues of enlightenment feats with the summoner domain (+2 summoning spell caster levels)

[ExLibrisMortis]

2 more feats from possible flaws, right? Here's one: Improved Cohort

I suggest that the next person choose Extra Followers for the other one. :smalltongue:

Pyrom's Leadership score is 21; which gives her a Level 14, rather than 17, Cohort as well as a number of followers.

We still have 50 x 1st level, 5 x 2nd level, 3 x 3rd level, 2 x 4th level and 1 x 5th level followers to define: this could be a long thread.

A-ha, but you forget: When we describe Pyrom in our final moments of brilliance, we can give him the reputation as a man of Greatly Reknowned Fairness and Generosity with a Special Power. That's a +4 increase to Leadership score right there! :smallcool:

And why don't we mention his fortress, which is very attractive to possible followers.

Her. Pyrom is female.

Tempting as this is, I'm going to call the only appropriate final flaw feat for Pyrom: Weapon Focus (Unarmed Strike). Can't let that Improved Natural Attack go to waste! :smalltongue: :smallbiggrin:

A reputation of being a man would be very special if they're not a man in the first place.

We're going to need some Perform ranks in there so s/he can rock out to "Dude Looks Like A Lady".

16 ranks in Balance.

If we are trying to make her a legal playable character we might want to examine a couple things.

LN Cloistered Cleric of Nerull will not work since she is two steps away from Nerull's alignment which is NE. She would not get any of the benefits for being a Cleric. To fix this we should add the feat Heretic of the Faith from Power of Faerun as it allows Clerics of any deity to be two steps away.

Monk and Barbarian do not mix alignment wise. Monks must be lawful and Barbarians cannot be lawful. Furthermore we need to be non chaotic to get into War Mind. A lawful Barbarian loses his rage ability--though that implies that the Barbarian somehow becomes lawful. As written she would not have been able to enter Barbarian as she was still lawful.

To fix this we should switch the Barbarian and Monk level order so that she started Barbarian and soon found her inner peace so to speak and entered the Monk class.

I believe that covers the largest issues here. The other prestige classes listed have skill or BAB requirements that can be easily met without issue. It just prefills in skills to meet the prerequisites.

War Mind: Knowledge (history) 2 ranks, Knowledge (psionics) 8 ranks
Paragnostic Initiate: Knowledge (arcana) 2 ranks, Knowledge (religion) 2 ranks, and other two Knowledges 2 ranks each (and look above for those needs to be met!)

So I guess I am suggesting to add the feat Herertic of the Faith, suggesting the switcheroo of the first two classes, and suggesting to prefill the required Knowledge skill ranks.

Ah, cool feat, dysprosium, thanks :smallbiggrin:.

We are trading barbarian 2 class features for whirlpouncetrip, right? And using fractional base attack/saves?

The whirling frenzy is lost on becoming lawful, as it's just like rage, but flurry should have 6 5 attacks with Pyrom's 17 base attack. Each of which is a sweeping strike, from war mind 5, and can be used on a charge, from pouncebarian. You can't use sweeping strike if you've moved more than 10 feet since the end of your last turn, but charges just about work with 10' distance. It's a tricky combat plan, but it's pretty cool when it works, I imagine.

For the sake of time, I say we have all the first level followers be the same build. I say Cloistered Clerics of Nerull.

Those two forth level cohorts should be:
1.) Silverbrow human bard 1/marshal 2/dragonshaman 1
with dragonfire inspiration, extra music, and dilate aura:
The Marshall aura's chosen should be over the top, motivate ardor, and the DS aura is power (1d6+2 to damage, + charisma bonus to damage on a charge).

And

2.) Human crusader 1/sword sage 2/crusader 1
with scribe marshal script, apprentice:craftsman, and extra-ordinary artisan. Leading the charge initiator stance (+ initiator level to charge damage) when in battle, and the rest of the time writing martial scripts for pyrom and the dwarf to use)

The second level ones should be Halfling Halfling-Rogue / Warlocks: 3d6 lasers, so long as you don't see them coming.

And these followers should have Heretic of the Faith as well. It helps build the heretical ideals that we're going for here.

Has the cohort been named yet? If not naming it is Con Aniac.

3 3rd level followers:

3 anthropomorphic bats:
Deadly hunter ACF druid 3 with urban companion ACFs (animated welcome mats) and favored enemy: human
with greenbound summoning and planar touchstone: catalogues of enlightenment feats with the summoner domain (+2 summoning spell caster levels)

So, the total is:
2 flaws to be determined; Improved Cohort & Weapon Focus (unarmed strike). Some feat slot must be used to take Heretic of the Faith, for example the second monk bonus feat, or a cleric domain bonus feat, using DCS to get the right feat. Alternatively, since Improved Cohort does nothing (until Pyrom gets Epic Leadership, anyway), we can trade that out.
Reputation of greatly renowned fairness and generosity, and special power - to boost leadership score. Leadership score 25.
Special renowned power is 'being a man', despite not being one.

Skill ranks: 16 in balance, 2 each in k(history), k(arcana), k(religion), 8 ranks in k(psionics). Undecided ranks in perform(being a man). I also vote for 10 ranks in psicraft and 10 ranks in tumble.
Barbarian provides 6 * 5 skill points (incl. x4 at first level), granting 5 ranks in tumble (using the skilled city dweller ACF), plus 25 unspent skill points.
Monk provides 6 (4 + 2 from int) * 2 skill points, for a total of 12, granting 7 ranks balance (Pyrom is level 4 by the time she takes monk 2), +1 rank tumble, and +2 ranks in k(arcana) and k(religion).
Cloistered Cleric provides 8 skill points (6 + 2 from int), providing 8 ranks k(psionics).
Ninja provides 8 * 2 skill points, granting a further +4 ranks tumble (level 7 by the time she takes ninja 2), + 3 ranks balance, and 9 unspent skill points.
Swordsage provides 8 * 2 skill points, granting 2 ranks k(history), 2 further ranks in balance, and 12 unspent skill points.
War Mind provides 4 * 5 skill points, granting 10 ranks psicraft and 10 unspent skill points.
Ruathar provides 6 * 3 skill points, all 18 unspent.
Paragnostic Initiate provides 8 * 3 skill points, granting 4 more ranks in balance, and 20 unspent skill points.

So all skill ranks are bought in-class. Phew.

Swordsage also provides 1 stances and 6 maneuvers known at IL 4, and 1 stance and 1 maneuver at IL 5. Martial study provides one other maneuver, at IL 9 (if non-initiating prestige classes don't count full) or IL 14 if they do.

The barbarian levels must be moved to the first two levels, since they can't come after monk (or rather, it's impractical). Pyrom is a spirit lion totem wolf totem barbarian, who'd have lost her rage (due to becoming lawful), had she not traded it out for something. For example, favoured enemy & combat style, as per UA 58. Pyrom could have FE(human) (like her druid followers) and archery combat style 1 (rapid shot feat).

Pyrom's cohort is named Con Aniac.

Pyrom has 135 ECL 1 followers (not 50, as Nedz was still assuming a lower leadership score). They are all LN cloistered cleric of Nerull 1, with Heretic of the Faith, race undecided.
Pyrom has 13 ECL 2 followers, all halfling substitution rogue 1/warlock 1.
Pyrom has 7 ECL 3 followers, all anthro bat druid 3s, with deadly hunter ACF and urban companion ACP (animated welcome mat), FE(human), greenbound summoning & planar touchstone, summoner domain.
Pyrom has 4 ECL 4 followers, 1.) Silverbrow human bard 1/marshal 2/dragonshaman 1, with dragonfire inspiration, extra music, and dilate aura. Marshal aura is Over The Top, Motivate Ardor, and the DS aura is Power (1d6+2 to damage, + charisma bonus to damage on a charge).
2.) Human crusader 1/sword sage 2/crusader 1 with scribe marshal script, apprentice:craftsman, and extra-ordinary artisan. Leading the charge initiator stance (+ initiator level to charge damage) when in battle, and the rest of the time writing martial scripts for pyrom and the dwarf to use)[/QUOTE]
Pyrom has 2 ECL 5 followers, to be decided.
Pyrom has 2 ECL 6 followers, to be decided.

Pyrom also has LG listed as alignment, should be LN.



This character is turning out to be pretty great!

[Jormengand]

Thanks, Ex. Pyrom and Con's character sheets have been updated.

Of course, they have to get married at some point and Pyrom needs to change her surname, so that Hamste's little joke can take full effect.

[ExLibrisMortis]

Heh I didn't notice that name thing :D.

A few corrections: the balance ranks are in Appraise, and k(psionics) and k(religion) are switched - the latter is 2 ranks, the former 8. The alignment is still LG instead of LN. Everything else checks out.

[Jormengand]

Heh I didn't notice that name thing :D.

A few corrections: the balance ranks are in Appraise, and k(psionics) and k(religion) are switched - the latter is 2 ranks, the former 8. The alignment is still LG instead of LN. Everything else checks out.

Ficks'd. Thank ye.

[YossarianLives]

Con will be true neutral.

[GreatDane]

So I noticed there's a blank space for a picture on the character sheet...I think this albino raptoran (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/14/b6/c5/14b6c5c28afd06edd6278299f1559136.jpg) will suffice.

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac266/Carakki/General%20Hosting/Pyrom%20Juror.png

[Extra Anchovies]

So I noticed there's a blank space for a picture on the character sheet...I think this albino raptoran (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/14/b6/c5/14b6c5c28afd06edd6278299f1559136.jpg) will suffice.

We're going for silly, this should definitely be it. I let out a noise reminiscent of Gollum when I opened that link (I have strange laughs sometimes).

[daremetoidareyo]

9 Ninja skill pts:
spot: 6
disable device: 1
twisted charge skill trick (2)

18 Ruathar skill points:
knowledge dungeoneering 6
knowledge religion 2
knowledge nature 4
knowledge the planes 4
Collector of stories skill trick (2) (does this give +5 to knowledge devotion?)

"Whenever you fight a creature, you can make a Knowledge check based on its type, as described on page 78 of the Player's Handbook, provided that you have at least one rank in the appropriate Knowledge skill. You then receive an insight bonus on attack rolls and damage rolls against that creature type for the remainder of the combat. The amount of the bonus depends on your Knowledge check result, as given on the following table." 15 or less: +1, 16-25: +2 26-30:+3 31-35:+4 36 and more: +5

and

"When you attempt a trained Knowledge check to identify a creature or to learn its special powers or vulnerabilities, you gain a +5 competence bonus on the check."


And why not stunning strike for that first level monk feat.

[ZamielVanWeber]

Collector of stories skill trick (2) (does this give +5 to knowledge devotion?)

As far as I have been told it does, but only to the first Knowledge Devotion roll you make in the combat.

[Bad Wolf]

I'll build the first level followers. 32 point buy, right? I'm thinking Raptoran, not much else left.

[Hamste]

Thanks, Ex. Pyrom and Con's character sheets have been updated.

Of course, they have to get married at some point and Pyrom needs to change her surname, so that Hamste's little joke can take full effect.

This entire thing was an elaborate ruse to get those two names together.

[ExLibrisMortis]

I'll build the first level followers. 32 point buy, right? I'm thinking Raptoran, not much else left.
So now they're raptoran LN cloistered cleric of Nerull with Heretic of the Faith. You have ability scores, skill points, domains, flaws + flaw feats (if applicable) and equipment left to decide (NPC WBL unless I'm much mistaken). Typical spells prepared and combat tactics would be good, too.

The same goes for the halfling rogue/warlocks: they still need ability scores, skill points, feats (and possibly flaws), and invocation(s) known. I'd say they should probably be strongheart halflings, because power is nice. They also need typical combat tactics.

Actually, all the followers still need ability scores (non-elite array) and skill points. They also need a few notes on tactics and uniforms! Yes! Or at least a dress code. I think they should be wearing human skull helmets, to go with the FE choice and Nerull theme. However, all skulls should be legally obtained from official graveyards, and stamped with a serial number. Con Aniac (the cohort) keeps a book with a list of all issued human skulls.

And the person who mentioned a fortress (somebody27else) might want to get to work on mapping that out :smallwink:.

[Bad Wolf]

I vote we call Pyrom's organization 'The Legion of the Dammed'.

[daremetoidareyo]

Backstory part 1:
Pyrom was born to a tribe of raptoran barbarian/jungle farmers of darkcomplection. Pyrom "hatched?" an albino, a traditional dark omen. Since the recent conversion of the tribe to Heironeus (owing to a surreptitious raise dead of an important leader) the outright abandonement of the cursed chick was outlawed. It was recently customary for the tribe to let nature take the weak. Albino raptorans sunburn and need extra resources to succeed in barbarian jungle farming. So, barred from outright abandonment, Pyrom's parents literally picked and bit at her flesh to show their revulsion of her, leaving large nasty scars on her back and upper chest. Pyrom survived this nasty treatment. She ran away at 13, spending time as a bandit scout (barbarian levels).

Her experiences as a child led to a fascination with the mind, as well as death. She seeks, through knowledge alone, how to draw power from understanding death. She doesn't hate life, but wants living beings to understand the role their and eventual and necessary death have in the grander scheme.

By all reckonings, she was born to be killed, except some defunct "good " god, Heironious, prevented it, preferring her to have a life torture. These existential pieces attracted her to Nerull's reaper aspect as necessary mercy to protect the order of things we have yet to comprehend. She bears no ill will towards her parents, seeing them as simpletons who followed the prescription of the wrong god.

You can see aspects of her history in how her will has manifested through her followers. Her sky spire of Nerull has an extensive library. Also a small elite teaching school for cadaver studies, dissection, and surgery, run by cloistered clerics of Nerull: they have this theory that the brain stores knowledge and does most creatures thinking is currently the biggest new advertisement. The clerics make extra money performing funerals, last rights, and counseling on demand (Flight is helpful, and people really appreciate the concept that understanding the role of a death is part of an unrevealed if not incomprehensible plan). It also helps that the sky spire is visible for miles around, and the strict adherence to protocol makes the clerics provide a high quality service.

For backstory/class levels history 2:
Someone should explain the favorite enemy: human.


I love the uniform idea. I like the human skull idea too, but would a raptorans head fit inside a human skull? An icon, like a skull with a tropical fruit growing out of a crack within it would be a neat ranking system: bigger jucier fruits from more formidable looking skulls represent organisation rank.
level 1: deer skull w/ginger. level 2: lynx skull with papaya. All the way up to raptoran skull with wings and a boquet of all the previous plants.

[dysprosium]

Did we pick domains for her?

Heretic of the Faith allows for one Domain that can be picked outside of the normal for Nerull as part of her heresy.

Knowledge Domain is already there thanks to Cloistered Cleric (and immediately traded out for the much better Knowledge Devotion).

Given the backstory, Death Domain is a must and I like the idea of the Suffering Domain for her as well.

[Bad Wolf]

So I'm thinking Cloistered Clerics of Nerull for the 1st level followers, with Heretic of the Faith, Mother Cyst, and Versatile Spellcaster. Trickery and Death Domains, with Knowledge from CC. They're pretty much low-level spies with Bluff, Hide, and Disguise maxed out. Using Versatile Spellcaster with Mother Cyst, they implant cysts into people of influence, allowing them to scry on them later with Necrotic Scrying.

Thoughts everyone?

[Karl Aegis]

Uniforms must have flair! At least seven pieces of flair. I recommend at least one piece of brass.

[Amphetryon]

Uniforms must have flair! At least seven pieces of flair. I recommend at least one piece of brass.

Are we getting warnings if we only have seven?

[nedz]

Strongheart Halflings Rogue 1 / Warlock 1 small
ACFs
Halfling Rogue Substitution Levels (RW, p 160)
Mimic (EoE p21): lose trapfinding, gain disguise self

Str 6 Dex 15 Con 12 Int 10 Wis 9 Cha 11 speed 20'
Sneak 2d6 Ranged, 0d6 Melle, Disguise self, Eldritch blast 1d6, Invocation (Leaps and Bounds)
Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot
BAB 0 Fort 1 Ref 4 Will 1 (+2 v fear)

-1 Dagger 1d3-2(19-20/×2)
+4 (touch) Eldritch blast 1d6+1 (20/×2) {+2d6 sneak) 30'
+3 (touch) Eldritch blast 1d6 (20/×2) 30'-60'

AC 16 (FF 14, Touch 13) (+3 Studded leather +1 size +2 Dex)
HP [11]

Skills


Skill
Ranks
Bonus
Total

Climb0-2 Str +2 Race0
Balance4+2 Dex +6 Leaps and Bounds12
Escape Artist4+2 Dex6
Hide4(+1/2)+2 Dex +4 Size10
Jump0-2 Str +2 Race +6 Leaps and Bounds6
Listen4-1 Wis +2 Race5
Move Silently4+2 Dex +2 Race8
Spot4-1 Wis3
Tumble4+2 Dex +6 Leaps and Bounds12
UMD55


Fairly boring feat choice, but they are followers.
Dumped Trapfinding for Disguise because that's more useful.
Went with Leaps and Bounds as their Invocation because it's cute, also tumble.

[atemu1234]

Cross-Class ranks in Autohypnosis?

[daremetoidareyo]

So I'm thinking Cloistered Clerics of Nerull for the 1st level followers, with Heretic of the Faith, Mother Cyst, and Versatile Spellcaster. Trickery and Death Domains, with Knowledge from CC. They're pretty much low-level spies with Bluff, Hide, and Disguise maxed out. Using Versatile Spellcaster with Mother Cyst, they implant cysts into people of influence, allowing them to scry on them later with Necrotic Scrying.

Thoughts everyone?

I like it, especially with the whole funeral last rights cover as a means to access people of influence.

[Bad Wolf]

I like it, especially with the whole funeral last rights cover as a means to access people of influence.

Thanks.

Quick question, does anyone know if Nerull has any other domains besides Death, Trickery, and Evil?

[dysprosium]

Thanks.

Quick question, does anyone know if Nerull has any other domains besides Death, Trickery, and Evil?

Pestilence

But aren't the other followers going to be heretics too?

[ExLibrisMortis]

Pestilence

But aren't the other followers going to be heretics too?
All the cleric 1 followers are, so they can all pick one special domain, as long as it's consistent with LN.

[daremetoidareyo]

All the cleric 1 followers are, so they can all pick one special domain, as long as it's consistent with LN.

If you just can't decide, Maybe split them into squads of 50 and choose three domains, cuz choosing is so much fun.

[Bad Wolf]

Okay, I'm going with Pestilence and Trickery. Unless there's a really good one out there.

[Hamste]

I get to name the followers I guess.

Rosamond Stinchcomb
Debbra Rodney
Jenee Mccaffrey
Daniele Hougland
Kit Slama
Wilhemina Neihoff
Valentina Mccaleb
Lasandra Gilmartin
Ellan Weingarten
Mathilda Bauch
Annice Schnieders
Brenton Elmendorf
Kurt Bonds
Sonny Soderman
Elke Kitzmiller
Vicente Palazzolo
Fiona Marois
Jannet Adamek
Janetta Comiskey
Agnus Braden
Roxy Strunk
Delphine Styer
Larae Willett
Vina Oakman
Luana Joe
Maegan Deshong
Zane Nye
Rosaria Orick
Kenneth Vantrease
Lakita Gallardo
Josefine Burcham
Nelia Presley
Nakesha Staller
Brigida Monette
Marylee Printup
Mao Hockett
Yulanda Elsey
Carlton Ruffo
Larita Meis
Chelsie Pham
Karen Hatchett
Krystin Decamp
Cortez Abbey
Windy Ricker
Cole Wager
Jaye Schley
Jonnie Feltmann
Marina Hatmaker
Cedric Millsap
Vanesa Jose
Sharie Monfort
Matilda Eble
Laureen Haffey
Derick Laver
Vertie Jaquez
Ozella Shealey
Ashleigh Torrance
Divina Gendron
Stephani Gillham
Clelia Abbate
Jeffery Gough
Marnie Lipinski
Ha James
Jimmie Wolpert
Sadye Coulston
Adriana Cuadrado
Alita Gaetano
Samara Camper
Marlyn Texada
Usha Tousant
Genesis Caul
Long Graden
Rosana Manney
Velia Erickson
Britteny Aberle
Latosha Amsler
Shemika Hartranft
Theodora Ortmann
Herma Melville
Letty Larrimore
Sacha Kindell
Misti Amrhein
Michael Coate
Kary Hamblen
Juana Goehring
Guillermina Horwitz
Laurice Ahern
Burt Ewen
Humberto Gerrity
Bree Elderkin
Barton Shahan
Myrta Nardi
Lauralee Mcguffie
Doria Hynes
Danika Mckern
Phillip Cronkhite
Teri Erazo
Tangela Wann
Jaimie Haslam
Genevive Lohmann
Donn Salguero
Basil Gault
Isaac Kirst
Caleb Gutierez
Dannie Viernes
Diego Filip
Ahmed Dusseault
Dillon Kimzey
Jake Wiliams
Robin Blanck
Steve Lechler
Corey Wexler
Wilton Faulks
Dwayne Mccants
Donovan Sergio
Daron Nabors
Rogelio Bryer
Nicky Blossom
Micheal Dibenedetto
Cyril Hamel
Jackie Bertolini
Trenton Earnhardt
Bennett Goings
Lauren Keough
Carroll Michelson
Vicente Huf
Luigi Prunty
Ralph Locke
Victor Oommen
Brain Cheatwood
Claudio Vallone
Armando Kettering
Herschel Roscoe
Marcellus Mcleish
Emory Ardon



Eildiana Milner
Quotiln Littleknight
Adokul Tarmikos
Hortiln Arcanscape
Darsys Graveltoes
Carstine Chandler
Gurstina Dragonsoultouched
Neristhana Dragonsoultouched
Wandathana Torgarsaxe
Prumorel Torgarsaxe
Cairath Battleheart
Brehana Hollysword
Adoril Tumblebelly




Rogor Silverhammer
Aushman
Zed Ees
Barn Mesk
Shog the Smasher
Sheila the Shatterer
Gis Nam



Chemosh
Olov Becheskvy
Dan Hardcastle
Irieemita Heroesblood

[Jormengand]

Olov Becheskvy

Really now?

Anyway, glad to see people are so invested in this. :smalltongue:

[Bad Wolf]

Here's the sheet for the first level followers. Got the basics up, though still need to work on a bit. http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=245862

[daremetoidareyo]

Where can I look up the stat arrays?

[nedz]

Where can I look up the stat arrays?

Here
Elite Array is [15,14,13,12,10,8]
Non Elite Array is [13,12,11,10,9,8]
Standard Array is [11,11,11,10,10,10]

[daremetoidareyo]

Ok, those anthropomorphic bat druids needed some revision

Antrhobat Deadly hunter druids with urban companions owls
1: greenbound summoning
flaw: ashbound summoning
bonus: track
bonus: Alertness
3: Initiate of Malar (augment summoning)

Class Features: Favored enemy Humans, fast movement, wild empathy, Trackless steps, woodland stride, spontaneus SNA

Skills: survival 6 , concentration 6, spot 6, heal 2, listen 2, craft 2

equipment: holy symbol: nature's children (caster level +1)

Str: 12(-4)= 8 Con:10 Dex: 9 Int: 11 Wis 13(+6)=19 Cha:8 (-2)=6