Incantatrix focused study w/ multiple arcane classes

[schreier]

If you had a domain wizard 5 / bard 1 / ultimate magus 10 / incantatrix 2 .... if you assign the first level of incantatrix to bard and ban necromancy with focused study ... do you lose any necromancy spells you had from your wizard levels? For the second incantatix level, can I assign it to wizard levels? If I do, do I lose the necromancy levels then?

Would it be any different if you used knight of the weave instead of bard? What about cleric (swapping UM for mystic theurge, assigning incantatrix to wizard - do you lose the cleric necromancy spells)?

[atemu1234]

No, I think it only bans things from the class it originally alters.

[Grooke]

This might be negotiable. Focused studies adds a "prohibited school" for which the rules say:


Spells of the prohibited school or schools are not available to the wizard, and she can't even cast such spells from scrolls or fire them from wands.

In the worst interpretation, "not available to the wizard" can be understood as "that player can never cast spell of those schools regardless of the class used for casting".

However, I would allow a multiclass spellcaster to cast schools of a prohibited school, as long as they do not appear on the wizard/sorcerer list.

edit: I might take the literal approach to a guy trying to get double/tripple 9s + Incantatrix.

edit 2: All of this also applies if the prohibited schools come the base wizard choice (a specialist wizard/cleric couldn't cleric-cast prohibited school spells), though you might opt to be more lenient in that case.

[schreier]

Just found this:

References complete arcane pg 185
MULTICLASS SPECIALISTS AND PROHIBITED SCHOOLS
As discussed on page 57 of the Player’s Handbook, a specialist wizard pays for an increased affinity for the spells of his chosen school by selecting two prohibited schools (or just one, in the case of the diviner) whose spells, as well as spell trigger and spell completion items using those spells, are forever denied to him. One way around at least part of this restriction is for a specialist wizard to take levels in sorcerer, using her sorcerer spellcasting ability to master the spells and magic items she cannot use as a wizard.


Who knew ... a straightforward answer from an actual book?

Although I guess that leaves the question of assigning lvl 1 of incantatrix to 1 class and lvl 2 to another. I think you could argue either way but it's probably safer to apply the prohibition to all classes that tie to the incantatrix

[Grooke]

Good find, so I was wrong. This basically fits the model of Specialization neglecting schools rather than swearing them off, which does make more sense.

For the second part, I agree with you (both in for the fact that it could be argued either way, and for your preferred choice).

[Kraken]

Well, the problem is that focused studies it poorly worded all on its own. Notably, there's no actual reference to using the rules for a wizard's prohibited schools, it's just something they assume you'll figure out. And of course you're then left to iron out all the corner cases that pop up on top of that.