Wisdom Psion??

[m149307]

Ok, so I heard there was a feat that allows me to change my casting stat for a Psion from Intelligence to Wisdom. Is this true, and if so where can I find it?

[Rubik]

Ok, so I heard there was a feat that allows me to change my casting stat for a Psion from Intelligence to Wisdom. Is this true, and if so where can I find it?Lost Traditions feat, from Bastards & Bloodlines, pg 91. It's 3rd party, but it exists.

[m149307]

I was thinking of a WotC feat

[Rubik]

I was thinking of a WotC featGood luck with that.

If you want 1st party only, how about going about things the other way? If you're wanting a Wis psion because you want to sync with monk better, how about changing monk to Int, instead? Carmendine Monk and Kung Fu Genius both change monk to be Int-based to various degrees.

[m149307]

I wasn't trying to cross class with monk, I just needed an amazing will save.

[Rubik]

I wasn't trying to cross class with monk, I just needed an amazing will save.Keen Intellect, Oriental Adventures: Use Int mod instead of Wis on Heal, Sense Motive, Perception, and Survival skills, as well as on Will saves.

Furthermore: Wedded to History (Survivor), Dragon Magazine: Make a Will save instead of Fort or Ref; each time after the first, take cumulative -1 penalty to all Will saves for the rest of the day.

Also, novice rings of diamond mind (save replacing maneuver), ToB: Choose a type of saving throw; once per minute, immediate action to replace that saving throw with a Concentration check; do not fail on a nat 1.

[Extra Anchovies]

Just use the 3.0 Psionics rules and play a Seer.

If you're fine with being Int-based, start your build with one level of monk, and take Carmendine Monk (Champions of Valor p. 28). It switches your AC bonus and Stunning Fist DC to be Int-based. Also lets you spend one hour in study to get +2 effective monk level for unarmed damage, AC bonus, or unarmored speed bonus (note: that's an or. You can't get the bonus to all three at once). Spend your first-level monk bonus feat on Monastic Training (Psion). Jump straight into Psion after monk 1, then take Tashalatora at level 3.

ETA: Rereading the thread, you just want an amazing Will save. How high do you need the modifier to be? Psions have a good Will to begin with.

[Rebel7284]

Ardent + Customized mantles pretty much == psion. Dominant Ideal for kicks.

Edit:

Source here: http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20070629a for both substitute power and dominant ideal.

[Rubik]

Ardent + Customized mantles pretty much == psion. Dominant Ideal for kicks.Except without anywhere near the number of powers known, the variety of powers, or the bonus feats (which are necessary, as psionics is a pretty feat-intensive system).

Ardents are okay if you abuse their ACFs and the ability to learn powers based on your manifester level, but they're a piss-poor substitute, otherwise.

[Rebel7284]

Except without anywhere near the number of powers known, the variety of powers, or the bonus feats (which are necessary, as psionics is a pretty feat-intensive system).

Ardents are okay if you abuse their ACFs and the ability to learn powers based on your manifester level, but they're a piss-poor substitute, otherwise.

Eh? They may be slightly weaker before Dominant Ideal, but that ACF alone, I feel, puts them on par. Also, it's not too difficult to get access to more powers between items/psychic reformation/feat leach+expanded knowledge/eventually just becoming a non-issue with Psychic Chirurgery. Yes, it take a bit more optimization, but it's one way to make wisdom based manifester that can do everything a psion can.

[Psyren]

Rubik's loathing of the Ardent is almost as well-documented as grarrrg's is for the Rage Prophet. I advise you don't waste your time :smalltongue:

And yes, Ardents are more than fine (even without ACFs) if you have even a modicum of op-fu.

[dextercorvia]

How about the Keen Intellect feat from Dragon #318. It switches your Will Save (and some Wis based skills) over to Int, instead.

[Komatik]

This made me check the Psychic Warrior. WTF does a Wisdom-based "magical" class have a weak Will progression? Sense, there is none.

Clearly, the Clerics' Union objected because they feared for their gish jobs.

[ben-zayb]

This made me check the Psychic Warrior. WTF does a Wisdom-based "magical" class have a weak Will progression? Sense, there is none.

Clearly, the Clerics' Union objected because they feared for their gish jobs.

Belkar Bitterleaf says hi.

[ZamielVanWeber]

[QUOTE=Komatik;19454294]This made me check the Psychic Warrior. WTF does a Wisdom-based "magical" class have a weak Will progression? Sense, there is none./QUOTE]

Hilariously the full BaB psionic PrC Slayer only get a good will.