Grease Wizard

[Nashira]

Howdy all,

I'm looking to build a spellcaster for 3.5 that uses grease and spells that synergize with grease (like gust of wind) almost exclusively. It doesn't have to be a wizard, I'm looking at fun/fluff more than anything.

Hit me with some builds.

[Elandris Kajar]

The first thing that comes to mind is obscuring mist/ deeper darkness.
They will not know what hit them!

Also: illusion spells.
Heavy use of quicken spell maybe?
Get spider climb so you don't fall.
Force them to slide into dangerous terrain, which to field of icy razors/ spike stones.
More tricks along these lines, but I can't think of any others.

[QuickLyRaiNbow]

Fire spells. Slide, greater slide and baleful transposition.

[Akal Saris]

The incendiary slime spell (PHB2? Spell compendium?) is a level 2 version of grease, and when you hit it with fire, opponents in it take 4d6 fire damage :)

Or you could cast only grease and lightning bolt, and be... Grease Lightning!

[atemu1234]

For a build, straight wizard is good.

[ksbsnowowl]

Chain Spell feat. Grease is a great candidate for chain spell...

BBEG Fighter's weapon...
His right shoe...
His left shoe...

BBEG Cleric's holy symbol...
BBEG Wizard's wand...

Etc, etc.

[Rubik]

Chain Spell feat. Grease is a great candidate for chain spell...

BBEG Fighter's weapon...
His right shoe...
His left shoe...

BBEG Cleric's holy symbol...
BBEG Wizard's wand...

Etc, etc.Even better for Sculpt Spell. Several 10' cubes? A 40' cone? A 20' radius ball? A 120' line? All of which affect every surface possible, including the ground, walls, and every piece of equipment on every creature in the area on a failed Ref save? Spectacular, innit?

[nedz]

You could build a Truenamer — Grease is the Word

If you are intent on just spamming one spell then you should probably play a Sorcerer and use plenty of metamagic, ideally through rods. The Metamagic Specialist (PH2 p61) ACF swaps your familiar for being able to use metamagic feats without increasing the casting time, albeit just 3+Int Mod times per day.

The spell is available via a number of class lists: Bard, Sorcerer, Wizard, Sha'ir, Death Master, Jester, Savant(Arcane), Magewright, Gnome Artificer, Slime, Ooze — all at level 1. So you could play a Spontaneous Cleric with the Slime or Ooze domains for slippery fun.

[Grod_The_Giant]

Pathfinder has a line of spells that conjure big holes. Those might go well if you get permission to backport them?

[jiriku]

Also take a look at sticky floor, RotD 117, which is essentially a reverse grease -- with a lordly 1 hour/level duration. Also take a look at path of frost, DrM 71, and freezing fog, SpC 99, which create ice slicks. I definitely encourage you to play a sorcerer for this build -- the ability to spam a spell and apply metamagic on the fly is very useful for this style of play.

At higher levels, definitely pick up greater dispel magic to strip those annoying freedom of movement spells off your enemies. Also consider spells like earthbind (SpC 76) and reverse gravity to get those pesky flyers to come down where you can trip them.

[Nashira]

These suggestions are all pretty amazing. I forgot to clarify at the top, this is for an NPC for a game I'm running and the goal is mostly to screw with my players a bit and create some amusing scenarios. They should encounter this guy at a few different power levels (unless they kill him sooner out of spite). His role will be comic relief/foil, possibly very inept and trying to be helpful rather than evil.

More suggestions are always helpful. When I make a build I'll put it up and see what y'all think.

[nedz]

NPC: Definitely a Sorcerer. Prepared casters are much harder to run and you only want him to pull a few tricks.

Consider giving him See Invisibility. It's pretty much a requirement — unless you want him to be inept as in easy to bypass.

[dascarletm]

You could build a Truenamer — Grease is the Word


And continuing that, use plenty of lightning spells alongside Grease.

[jiriku]

And continuing that, use plenty of lightning spells alongside Grease.

What you did there, I see it. :smalltongue:

[nedz]

And continuing that, use plenty of lightning spells alongside Grease.

Unfortunately you were Monk'd in post #4 :smallamused:

[Renen]

How it FEELS to be a grease wizard:
http://orig14.deviantart.net/1d54/f/2014/176/1/3/looks_like_its_time_to_oil_up_by_mean_ah-d7nxhhl.jpg

[dascarletm]

Unfortunately you were Monk'd in post #4 :smallamused:

(to the tune of Sandra Dee)
Look at me, I didn't see
the post after number three
I am now monk'd, or maybe punk'd
I lost, dascarletme

[nedz]

He probably should have a bodyguard too, a Knight of some kind, but only when the weather is nice.

[Nashira]

He probably should have a bodyguard too, a Knight of some kind, but only when the weather is nice.

Maybe someone who only has the to be the guard in the summer when he isn't in knight school--

[Extra Anchovies]

There seems to be a number of references in this thread to things I'm not familiar with. Would anyone care to explain?

[dextercorvia]

There seems to be a number of references in this thread to things I'm not familiar with. Would anyone care to explain?

The Grease (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077631/?ref_=nv_sr_1) movie franchise. Even knowing that, I'm not sure about the knight ones.

Edit: I see my mistake -- I remembered that song as Summer Lovin'.

[dascarletm]

There seems to be a number of references in this thread to things I'm not familiar with. Would anyone care to explain?

It is the movie Grease with John Travolta.... Monk'd again...

[paranoidbox]

Also take a look at sticky floor, RotD 117, which is essentially a reverse grease -- with a lordly 1 hour/level duration. Also take a look at path of frost, DrM 71, and freezing fog, SpC 99, which create ice slicks. I definitely encourage you to play a sorcerer for this build -- the ability to spam a spell and apply metamagic on the fly is very useful for this style of play.

At higher levels, definitely pick up greater dispel magic to strip those annoying freedom of movement spells off your enemies. Also consider spells like earthbind (SpC 76) and reverse gravity to get those pesky flyers to come down where you can trip them.

The "official" antithesis to Grease is a spell called Resinous Tar. But both that and Sticky Floor are similar. You can't cast Sticky Floor on anything but the... uhm, floor, whereas you can cast Resinous Tar on weapons and people.

[Hiro Quester]

An entangled creature is at -5 to dexterity, so more likely to fail the reflex save and fall.

So get a rod of Viscid Globs, or learn animate rope. Perhaps get a rope of entangelment. Or UMD an eternal wand of entangle spell.

Even better: Cast Irresistible Dance, on top of a grease spell. Dancing creatures are -10 to reflex saves. Plus funny/humiliating (requires dancing while prone!). A Bard/Sublime Chord has early access to ID at 13th level.

[nedz]

Actually, since Grease is a Bard spell, that might be a more amusing option.

Bards are less good at the lightning thing though.

[Nashira]

Actually, since Grease is a Bard spell, that might be a more amusing option.

Bards are less good at the lightning thing though.

Unless it's a DFI blue dragonborn or half-dragon bard, then they can cast grease and sing "Greased Lightning" to bring the lightning!

[SangoProduction]

The "official" antithesis to Grease is a spell called Resinous Tar. But both that and Sticky Floor are similar. You can't cast Sticky Floor on anything but the... uhm, floor, whereas you can cast Resinous Tar on weapons and people.

My god! It frustrates me to no end when a spell/ feat comes up, but I can't find it with google (gad darned Wizards, for ordering that wiki page to stop). Can you tell my where Resinous Tar spell is found?

[atemu1234]

My god! It frustrates me to no end when a spell/ feat comes up, but I can't find it with google (gad darned Wizards, for ordering that wiki page to stop). Can you tell my where Resinous Tar spell is found?

Complete Mage, p115.

[SangoProduction]

Complete Mage, p115. Thank you!!! AT long last! My quest is complete.

[atemu1234]

Thank you!!! AT long last! My quest is complete.

You are most welcome.

[nedz]

My god! It frustrates me to no end when a spell/ feat comes up, but I can't find it with google (gad darned Wizards, for ordering that wiki page to stop). Can you tell my where Resinous Tar spell is found?

Your googlefu is weak.

[atemu1234]

Your googlefu is weak.

Weaker than mine, at any rate. I found a book and could easily find the page number from that.

[SangoProduction]

Weaker than mine, at any rate. I found a book and could easily find the page number from that.

What did you type in? I put in "Resinous Tar 3.5" "Resinous Tar Spell 3.5" " Resinous Tar D&D" And then I basically gave up.

[atemu1234]

What did you type in? I put in "Resinous Tar 3.5" "Resinous Tar Spell 3.5" " Resinous Tar D&D" And then I basically gave up.

I searched Resinous Tar D&D and I found it. Are you using Yahoo or something?

[Rubik]

I searched Resinous Tar D&D and I found it. Are you using Yahoo or something?Pheh. Google is for those damned, dirty optimizers.

[SangoProduction]

I searched Resinous Tar D&D and I found it. Are you using Yahoo or something?

Google.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Resinous+tar+D%26D

Is what I get when I type in that.

[atemu1234]

Google.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Resinous+tar+D%26D

Is what I get when I type in that.

Notice some of them say (CM) next to it? That's an abbreviation for Complete Mage.

[P.F.]

Notice some of them say (CM) next to it? That's an abbreviation for Complete Mage.

Or that one about halfway down that says (Complete Mage) next it. Kind of a dead giveaway. Also if you look on the second page (that's the full attack action of google-fu) there's a PDF.

[atemu1234]

Or that one about halfway down that says (Complete Mage) next it. Kind of a dead giveaway. Also if you look on the second page (that's the full attack action of google-fu) there's a PDF.

Who goes on second pages?

[nedz]

I searched Resinous Tar D&D and I found it. Are you using Yahoo or something?

Obviously not. (http://uk.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=Resinous+Tar+3.5&hspart=iry&hsimp=yhs-fullyhosted_003&type=vst_wnzp01_14_49_ff&param1=1&param2=cd%3D2XzuyEtN2Y1L1QzuyBzztB0B0C0BzyyB0ByDyB 0AyEyC0ByDtN0D0Tzu0StCtDyCyCtN1L2XzutAtFyCtFyCtFtD tN1L1CzutCyEtBzytDyD1V1BtN1L1G1B1V1N2Y1L1Qzu2SyD0A 0EyDyB0F0A0CtGtDtAyBtCtG0CyByEtBtGyDtB0CzztGtByD0A yEyBtC0A0A0DzzyDtA2QtN1M1F1B2Z1V1N2Y1L1Qzu2StAyB0E 0A0C0FzyyCtGyC0EtByDtGyEtB0C0BtGzzzzzyyCtGtCzyzzzy yCtA0F0FtDyB0B0C2Q%26cr%3D8263927%26a%3Dvst_wnzp01 _14_49_ff%26f%3D1%26cat%3Dweb%26sid%3D8b02f7fda718 74d5944744aaece910f0%26sesid%3Dda85d3843a75a524e5b c4487db65d8c6%26ip%3D86.180.40.187%26b%3DFirefox%2 6bv%3D39.0%26os%3DWindows%2B7%26pa%3Dvosteran)