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GAAD
2015-07-15, 12:24 PM
This here is the thread for (what else?) drafting Hearthstone arena decks.

First thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?416906-Hearthstone-Arena-Drafting!)

Tell us your draft, pick by pick, and watch the forum have a heated debate agree which pick is blatantly obvious.

We currently have two drafts running. (any more and this thread would get really confusing).

Want a turn? After each draft is completed, the forum guesses how many wins the deck will achieve. Guess right, and you get the next draft.

So, let's keep on drafting, improving our skills and comboing Violet Teachers with our entire hand of spells.

Pay Attention, Class!
Instruction Begins.
Be ready to learn,
But don't mindlessly do as we say.

This. Is. Hearthstone Arena. Let's do this thing!

Gandariel
2015-07-15, 01:08 PM
The title is "Pay attention, class!"
(It's what Violet Teacher says)

Anyways, @Jormengard pick that Defias!

MacGiolla
2015-07-15, 01:16 PM
Yeah, definitely Defias. I had some great success with him in my current Arena run coining him out on the first turn.

Jormengand
2015-07-15, 02:16 PM
Yeah, beat it!

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor

Be...trayal? I think? A conditional kill-spell for 2 that might be better than just that? Or just the 3/2.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-15, 09:14 PM
I'd take the Raptor. It might not be fancy but it's solid.

Pick 11: The damned stand ready.

Pick 12: Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
Back to a choice of mediocre cards.


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
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Destro_Yersul
2015-07-15, 11:19 PM
Rogue: Raptor is probably better than conditional removal.

Priest: Take the expensive yeti. It's at least still a 4/5, and sometimes it heals your stuff.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-15, 11:48 PM
Pick 12: Yeti + 1 mana, heal 2.

Pick 13: Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
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GolemsVoice
2015-07-16, 12:17 AM
Holy Smite II Ecclesiastical Boogaloo

MacGiolla
2015-07-16, 12:19 AM
Holy Smite II Ecclesiastical Boogaloo

I vote for this just based on golem's post

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-16, 12:38 AM
Pick 13: Everyone needs a good Smiting now and again.

Pick 14: Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
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Destro_Yersul
2015-07-16, 02:17 AM
I'm assuming the third card is not worth considering, and the obvious answer is SW:D anyways.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-16, 06:01 AM
Pick 14: If you paid attention, you'd know what the third card was :smallwink: SW:D added to deck

Pick 15: War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite #3


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
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GolemsVoice
2015-07-16, 06:29 AM
Lost Tallstrider? Not as good as Yeti, but not bad. That or War Golem to beef up our endgame.

thirsting
2015-07-16, 08:24 AM
War Golem has more staying power..

ShinyRocks
2015-07-16, 09:00 AM
Pick 14: If you paid attention, you'd know what the third card was :smallwink: SW:D added to deck

Pick 15: War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite #3


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
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I'd take the War Golem. I feel like Strider's 4 health is too much of a vulnerability. Dies to Swipe, Eviscerate, Truesilver, Flamestrike, Frostbolt & ping, (probably) Crackle, Heroic Strike...

Jormengand
2015-07-16, 10:31 AM
GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon

Eviscerate, right?

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-16, 10:32 AM
eviscerate, easy.

Jormengand
2015-07-16, 12:14 PM
GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator

We have precisely one card that interacts with Hobbo. Take Recom? I mean, nether-on-a-stick probably dies too fast to help.

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-16, 12:16 PM
There's a couple things we don't mind recombobulating, and it's the best of those three anyways.

Jormengand
2015-07-16, 12:26 PM
You might feel a little tingle...

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor

I smell blood...

Mando Knight
2015-07-16, 12:27 PM
Hobgoblin is good basically only when you draft a lot of 1/X minions, and Rogue doesn't really want any of those in Arena.

Doomsayer is best when it's a surprise board clear popping out of a Shredder, or as part of a Freeze deck, neither of which is viable for a Rogue Arena deck.

Recombobulator's value is super-random, and normally I'd probably pass it up, but here it's at least an average-ish card amid some pretty bad ones.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-16, 07:40 PM
Pick 15: Dr Boom without the bombs brings us to the halfway point of this draft.

Pick 16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
Another obvious choice I believe.


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
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@Rogue Draft: I smell blood too.

Mando Knight
2015-07-16, 08:53 PM
Yeah, DID over Micro Machine. You could use another 4 and DID is a better 4-drop than the Micro Machine is a 2-drop.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-16, 09:06 PM
Pick 16: Great 4 drop over decent 2 drop.

Pick 17: Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
Epic time but another clear cut choice here I think.


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
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Mando Knight
2015-07-16, 09:21 PM
Yeah, easy Sky Golem.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-16, 09:27 PM
Pick 17: Easy Sky Golem.

Pick 18: War Golem #2/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
The fatty, the value or the troll?


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
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Zevox
2015-07-16, 09:29 PM
The value, easy.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-16, 09:41 PM
Pick 18: The value.

Pick 19: Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
Two ways to make a Chicken and a Temple Enforcer for Mechs.


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
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Mando Knight
2015-07-16, 10:02 PM
So, a 5/5 for 5 is OK (and there are two Mechs that could possibly benefit from it, but one is played in order for it to die and the other is expensive enough that it's probably not on the board in time for the Upgraded Repair Bot), but here we have a deck that is already at least 1/5 spells with another 11 unknown cards left in the draft, which is good for Gnomish Experimenter's draw effect.

Jormengand
2015-07-17, 08:28 AM
Okay, with a grand total of no votes in favour of anything, I'll take the obvious pick just to get us moving again.

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog

Well then. Blessing of might'd ogre magi, anyone?

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-17, 04:28 PM
yeah, Salty dog is ok. It's actually pretty good on the rare ocassion your opponent can't answer it.

For Priest: Upgraded Repair bot, unless the curve really needs help.

Jormengand
2015-07-17, 04:53 PM
GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker

Our curve right now is 112222224555. Which means that curve-wise, we want none of these.

Gandariel
2015-07-17, 05:38 PM
Still, take the Faerie

Jormengand
2015-07-17, 05:45 PM
GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv

This is basically gonna be 2-drop: the deck, isn't it?

(1122222224555)

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-17, 06:44 PM
Seems so. We do have a pirate, but creeper is still better.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-17, 07:44 PM
Pick 19: I'll take Mando Knight's post to mean that he voted for the Gnome so Experimenter wins the vote 1-0.

Pick 20: Jeeves/Mass Dispel/Goblin Sapper
Another set of bad to mediocre rares.


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
#19:Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
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thirsting
2015-07-18, 02:11 AM
Mass Dispell, at least it has card draw, and well. I like silence.

and

Haunted Creeper for hard-to-get-rid-of-ness.

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-18, 08:20 AM
I voted for Salty Dog, but ok.

On this one I pick Goblin Sapper.

Jormengand
2015-07-18, 09:52 AM
See, I was thinking I should go shiv just to draw more of my 2-drops faster. :smalltongue:

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot

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The Glyphstone
2015-07-18, 09:53 AM
Take the Brute. It's not a 2-drop, and 4/4 for 3 isn't bad even if it does misfire half the time.

Jormengand
2015-07-18, 09:57 AM
"Take the Brute. It's not a 2-drop"
-Glyphstone 2015

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord

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Destro_Yersul
2015-07-18, 10:23 AM
I think I'd pick Spellbreaker, but it's pretty close.

Gandariel
2015-07-18, 10:54 AM
I'd go Ambusher here. But Spellbreaker is fine too

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-18, 08:24 PM
Pick 20: Tie between Mass Dispel and Goblin Sapper. Breaking the tie by voting Sapper to move this draft forward.

Pick 21: Inner Fire/Dark Iron Dwarf/Blackwing Corruptor
My inside sources tell me that we're totally going to get 5 playable dragons in the next 9 picks.


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
#19:Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
#20:Jeeves/Mass Dispel/Goblin Sapper
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GAAD
2015-07-18, 09:07 PM
Take Urist McYoucallthataweaponhuh.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-18, 09:57 PM
Pick 21: Urist McYoucallthataweaponhuh taken.

Pick 22: Northshire Cleric/Mind Blast/Young Dragonhawk
Remember that Mind Blast is a cheaper Lava Burst that doesn't overload (If said Lava Burst also went face)


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
#19:Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
#20:Jeeves/Mass Dispel/Goblin Sapper
#21:Inner Fire/Dark Iron Dwarf/Blackwing Corruptor
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The_Jackal
2015-07-18, 10:16 PM
Pick 21: Urist McYoucallthataweaponhuh taken.

Pick 22: Northshire Cleric/Mind Blast/Young Dragonhawk
Remember that Mind Blast is a cheaper Lava Burst that doesn't overload (If said Lava Burst also went face)


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
#19:Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
#20:Jeeves/Mass Dispel/Goblin Sapper
#21:Inner Fire/Dark Iron Dwarf/Blackwing Corruptor
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Sure, but Northshire Cleric is a solid card draw machine. The only time 5 to the face matters is when it's the LAST 5.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-18, 11:53 PM
Pick 22: Card draw it is.

Pick 23: Cogmaster/Dalaran Mage/Silverback Patriarch
Which bad card do we want?


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
#19:Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
#20:Jeeves/Mass Dispel/Goblin Sapper
#21:Inner Fire/Dark Iron Dwarf/Blackwing Corruptor
#22:Northshire Cleric/Mind Blast/Young Dragonhawk
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The_Jackal
2015-07-19, 02:46 AM
Cogmaster is bad but at least cheap.

GAAD
2015-07-19, 12:42 PM
Take the card that ISN'T a 3 mana 1/4.

Jormengand
2015-07-19, 03:26 PM
It's a tie. I'm taking the big one.

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader

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The_Jackal
2015-07-19, 04:22 PM
Spectral knight, no brainer.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-19, 08:52 PM
Pick 23: Playground chooses the Cogmaster.
I'd normally have gone with the Mage since we have 2 Smites and a Nova in deck already while Cogmaster doesn't have the mechs needed to make it 3/2 when we want it.

Pick 24: Bomb Lobber/Ancient Watcher/Nerubian Egg


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
#19:Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
#20:Jeeves/Mass Dispel/Goblin Sapper
#21:Inner Fire/Dark Iron Dwarf/Blackwing Corruptor
#22:Northshire Cleric/Mind Blast/Young Dragonhawk
#23:Cogmaster/Dalaran Mage/Silverback Patriarch
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Jormengand
2015-07-19, 08:56 PM
"Given the choice of things which can't attack or bombs, which do you prefe..."
"Bombs."
"You didn't even let me fini..."
"Bombs."

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-19, 09:04 PM
Pick 24: Special Delivery!

Pick 25: Twilight Whelp/Puddlestomper/Faerie Dragon
See, there's dragon number 1 for our Corruptor if we had picked him.


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
#19:Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
#20:Jeeves/Mass Dispel/Goblin Sapper
#21:Inner Fire/Dark Iron Dwarf/Blackwing Corruptor
#22:Northshire Cleric/Mind Blast/Young Dragonhawk
#23:Cogmaster/Dalaran Mage/Silverback Patriarch
#24:Bomb Lobber/Ancient Watcher/Nerubian Egg
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The Glyphstone
2015-07-19, 11:25 PM
But we didn't. So take the Faerie Dragon, it is objectively superior to the vanilla counterpart right next to it.

Zevox
2015-07-19, 11:52 PM
But we didn't. So take the Faerie Dragon, it is objectively superior to the vanilla counterpart right next to it.
The funny thing is, that's actually not true in Priest specifically. Faerie Dragon's effect means no hero power healing, no Power Word: Shield, and no Velen's Chosen (though we don't have that last at this point).

The Glyphstone
2015-07-20, 12:13 AM
The funny thing is, that's actually not true in Priest specifically. Faerie Dragon's effect means no hero power healing, no Power Word: Shield, and no Velen's Chosen (though we don't have that last at this point).

Huh. You got a point there. I now vote for Puddlestomper instead.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-20, 12:40 AM
But Puddlestomper dies to early removal while the faeire dragon doesn't

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-20, 02:52 AM
Faerie dragon is probably still better than puddlestomper.

Gandariel
2015-07-20, 03:10 AM
Exactly. Faerie dragon is still better than Bloodfen Raptor.
Unless you have a lot of buffs, the only thing you should care about is the ability to hero power it. And with 2 health, it's not that big of a concern.

Spectral Knight, however, does lose some value in Priest

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-20, 04:19 AM
Pick 25: Dragon No.1 for our non existant Corrupter

Pick 26: Dread Corsair/Dragonkin Sorcerer/Temple Enforcer
See, another Dragon. Even if we probably won't be picking it here :smalltongue:


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
#19:Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
#20:Jeeves/Mass Dispel/Goblin Sapper
#21:Inner Fire/Dark Iron Dwarf/Blackwing Corruptor
#22:Northshire Cleric/Mind Blast/Young Dragonhawk
#23:Cogmaster/Dalaran Mage/Silverback Patriarch
#24:Bomb Lobber/Ancient Watcher/Nerubian Egg
#25:Twilight Whelp/Puddlestomper/Faerie Dragon
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thirsting
2015-07-20, 04:23 AM
Temple Enforcer is only real option here.

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-20, 04:24 AM
Time for some enforcing.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-20, 05:22 AM
Pick 26: Enforcer to shore up the late game.

Pick 27: Shadow Word: Death/Twilight Whelp/Clockwork Gnome
Another dragon! I'm totally psychic :smallbiggrin:


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
#19:Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
#20:Jeeves/Mass Dispel/Goblin Sapper
#21:Inner Fire/Dark Iron Dwarf/Blackwing Corruptor
#22:Northshire Cleric/Mind Blast/Young Dragonhawk
#23:Cogmaster/Dalaran Mage/Silverback Patriarch
#24:Bomb Lobber/Ancient Watcher/Nerubian Egg
#25:Twilight Whelp/Puddlestomper/Faerie Dragon
#26:Dread Corsair/Dragonkin Sorcerer/Temple Enforcer
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ShinyRocks
2015-07-20, 07:03 AM
Pick 26: Enforcer to shore up the late game.

Pick 27: Shadow Word: Death/Twilight Whelp/Clockwork Gnome
Another dragon! I'm totally psychic :smallbiggrin:

I'd say SWDeath. We've got a few one drops, and while a T1 Whelp with Faerie in hand into T2 Faerie would be a nice theoretical opener, it's just that - theoretical. And you never know when you'll run into that guy who managed to draft Boom and Ragnaros.

Jormengand
2015-07-20, 04:35 PM
I just couldn't handle it. I'm not really a fan.

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome

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The Glyphstone
2015-07-20, 04:43 PM
Frosty Lemental
Is a fairly decent card
It's become my thing
even though I can't sing
To make up these little songs.

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-20, 04:56 PM
yeah, SW:D and Frosty Lemental

Jormengand
2015-07-20, 05:07 PM
GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome
Ironfur Grizzly/Mechwarper/Ogre Brute

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The_Jackal
2015-07-20, 05:29 PM
Me smash you!


... Oops.

Mando Knight
2015-07-20, 06:53 PM
Brute's better than Ironfur as far as 3-drops go, and I don't think yet another 2-drop is warranted in a deck that's already over 1/4 full of them.

For the Priest, another vote towards SW:D. Synergy-dependent 1-drops just can't compare to removing a big enemy outright.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-20, 09:21 PM
Pick 27: Shadow Word: Death #2.

Pick 28: Holy Smite #3/Micro Machine/Blackwing Technician


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
#19:Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
#20:Jeeves/Mass Dispel/Goblin Sapper
#21:Inner Fire/Dark Iron Dwarf/Blackwing Corruptor
#22:Northshire Cleric/Mind Blast/Young Dragonhawk
#23:Cogmaster/Dalaran Mage/Silverback Patriarch
#24:Bomb Lobber/Ancient Watcher/Nerubian Egg
#25:Twilight Whelp/Puddlestomper/Faerie Dragon
#26:Dread Corsair/Dragonkin Sorcerer/Temple Enforcer
#27:Shadow Word: Death/Twilight Whelp/Clockwork Gnome
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The Glyphstone
2015-07-20, 09:35 PM
Take the machine. We don't need another Smite. Technician is at best mediocre since we have a grand total of one Dragon. Machine either draws a removal right off the bat, or he goes out of control - I've had games won or lost by a T1 Coin+Micro Machine that couldn't be answered efficiently.

Mando Knight
2015-07-20, 09:38 PM
Micro Machine here. Temple Enforcer and PW:S means that the Priest can increase the odds that the little guy can survive to build up his big punch.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-20, 09:51 PM
Pick 28: Let's see if we can protect the little guy.

Pick 29: Thoughtsteal/Ship's Cannon/Dalaran Mage


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
#19:Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
#20:Jeeves/Mass Dispel/Goblin Sapper
#21:Inner Fire/Dark Iron Dwarf/Blackwing Corruptor
#22:Northshire Cleric/Mind Blast/Young Dragonhawk
#23:Cogmaster/Dalaran Mage/Silverback Patriarch
#24:Bomb Lobber/Ancient Watcher/Nerubian Egg
#25:Twilight Whelp/Puddlestomper/Faerie Dragon
#26:Dread Corsair/Dragonkin Sorcerer/Temple Enforcer
#27:Shadow Word: Death/Twilight Whelp/Clockwork Gnome
#28:Holy Smite/Micro Machine/Blackwing Technician
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Mando Knight
2015-07-20, 11:12 PM
I like Thoughtsteal, but I don't know if it's the pick here. You've got a fair number of 2-drops, but not like our Rogue, so the Ship's Cannon isn't a terrible idea either.

Thoughtsteal is RNG on top of RNG in Arena: you don't know what cards it'll pull from your opponent's deck, and you don't know if your opponent even has any cards worth stealing. On the other hand, it's an Arcane Intellect that doesn't reduce the number of turns until you Fatigue, and the more wins you get, the more likely your opponent will be decent at drafting and thus have cards worth stealing.

Ship's Cannon is a Crocolisk, which is usually the better stat spread for a Priest in Arena.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-21, 04:38 AM
Pick 29: Picking Thoughtsteal so that we can move on to the final pick and I can start the actual run when I wake up tomorrow.

Final Pick: Grim Patron/Violet Teacher/Kezan Mystic


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Priest/Druid/Hunter
#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
#19:Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
#20:Jeeves/Mass Dispel/Goblin Sapper
#21:Inner Fire/Dark Iron Dwarf/Blackwing Corruptor
#22:Northshire Cleric/Mind Blast/Young Dragonhawk
#23:Cogmaster/Dalaran Mage/Silverback Patriarch
#24:Bomb Lobber/Ancient Watcher/Nerubian Egg
#25:Twilight Whelp/Puddlestomper/Faerie Dragon
#26:Dread Corsair/Dragonkin Sorcerer/Temple Enforcer
#27:Shadow Word: Death/Twilight Whelp/Clockwork Gnome
#28:Holy Smite/Micro Machine/Blackwing Technician
#29:Thoughtsteal/Ship's Cannon/Dalaran Mage
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GAAD
2015-07-21, 04:40 AM
Hang on, I forget, what was the name of this thread again? :smallamused:

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-21, 05:25 AM
I say teacher. We've got a good number fo spells, many of which are low cost, and we also already have one Kezan mystic.

GolemsVoice
2015-07-21, 06:21 AM
Everyone, get in here, so you can PAY ATTENTION, CLASS. Teacher all the way.

Jormengand
2015-07-21, 06:33 AM
GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome
Ironfur Grizzly/Mechwarper/Ogre Brute
Hungry Crab/Piloted Sky Golem/Sabotage

We take the crab, right?

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Fleeing Coward
2015-07-21, 06:40 AM
Totally, Crab is the way to go. Not like the Sky Golem is good or anything.

Final Pick: Pay attention class.
Will start playing the games tomorrow, going to sleep soon.


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#1:Argent Commander/Mass Dispel/Injured Blademaster
#2:Dread Corsair/Explosive Sheep/Young Dragonhawk
#3:Lord of the Arena/Holy Smite/Dread Corsair
#4:Clockwork Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Shieldbearer
#5:Ogre Magi/Gilblin Stalker/Power Word: Shield
#6:Blackwing Corruptor/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Power Word: Shield
#7:Silvermoon Guardian/Holy Nova/Northshire Cleric
#8:Goldshire Footman/Explosive Sheep/Dark Cultist
#9:Stonesplinter Trogg/Shrinkmeister/Mind Blast
#10:Kezan Mystic/Illuminator/Crazed Alchemist
#11:Gnomish Inventor/Holy Nova/Dark Cultist
#12:Inner Fire/Razorfen Hunter/Darkscale Healer
#13:Holy Smite/Priestess of Elune/Ironbeak Owl
#14:Shadow Word: Death/Earthen Ring Farseer/Ship's Cannon
#15:War Golem/Lost Tallstrider/Holy Smite
#16:Priestess of Elune/Micro Machine/Dark Iron Dwarf
#17:Recombobulator/Enhance-o-Mechano/Piloted Sky Golem
#18:War Golem/Northshire Cleric/Young Dragonhawk
#19:Angry Chicken/Upgraded Repair Bot/Gnomish Experimenter
#20:Jeeves/Mass Dispel/Goblin Sapper
#21:Inner Fire/Dark Iron Dwarf/Blackwing Corruptor
#22:Northshire Cleric/Mind Blast/Young Dragonhawk
#23:Cogmaster/Dalaran Mage/Silverback Patriarch
#24:Bomb Lobber/Ancient Watcher/Nerubian Egg
#25:Twilight Whelp/Puddlestomper/Faerie Dragon
#26:Dread Corsair/Dragonkin Sorcerer/Temple Enforcer
#27:Shadow Word: Death/Twilight Whelp/Clockwork Gnome
#28:Holy Smite/Micro Machine/Blackwing Technician
#29:Thoughtsteal/Ship's Cannon/Dalaran Mage
#30:Grim Patron/Violet Teacher/Kezan Mystic

Jormengand
2015-07-21, 06:48 AM
GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome
Ironfur Grizzly/Mechwarper/Ogre Brute
Hungry Crab/Piloted Sky Golem/Sabotage
Windfury Harpy/Reckless Rocketeer/Vanish

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Guessing 4 for Fleeing's deck, while I'm at it.

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-21, 06:56 AM
Oh yeah, crab for sure. It's so much value. I don't know why anyone would want a sky golem over a crab. 30 crab deck for the win, guys.

Edit: Reckless Rocketeer over Harpy.

Guessing... 7 wins, for the Priest.

Jormengand
2015-07-21, 07:15 AM
GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome
Ironfur Grizzly/Mechwarper/Ogre Brute
Hungry Crab/Piloted Sky Golem/Sabotage
Windfury Harpy/Reckless Rocketeer/Vanish
Explosive Sheep/Anub'ar Ambusher/Assassinate

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Destro_Yersul
2015-07-21, 07:56 AM
assassinate

Gandariel
2015-07-21, 08:05 AM
I'd go Anub'ar ambusher actually

The_Jackal
2015-07-21, 09:58 AM
I'd go Anub'ar ambusher actually

Assassinate vote here. Ambusher is a decent body, but the downside can bite you pretty hard, assassinate is arguably the single best removal spell in the game. No-can-defend.

Infernally Clay
2015-07-21, 10:27 AM
You need removal. An Eviscerate and a Bomb Lobber won't cut it by themselves. So grab Assassinate.

thirsting
2015-07-21, 10:42 AM
Assassinate.

And fleeing coward wins six games. *nod nod*

GolemsVoice
2015-07-21, 02:27 PM
I have faith in you, Coward, but I can bet only 4 games. Don't hate the player, man...

The_Jackal
2015-07-21, 04:54 PM
I believe in you, man. 12 wins!

Jormengand
2015-07-21, 05:16 PM
I have faith in you, Coward, but I can bet only 4 games. Don't hate the player, man...

I've already voted 4...

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-21, 07:10 PM
G1 v Mage
Going second, mulliganed whole hand, Thoughtsteal only drop under 4 mana.
Only draw under 4 mana in the next 2 turns was a Northshire. Couldn't catch up.
0-1

G2 v Paladin
Going second, turn 1 Northshire (Had PWS in hand) and he hero powers turn 2.
Coin into Dark Cultist turn 2, he bluegills into Northire turn 3.
Turn 3 Thoughtsteal nets me Blessing of Kings, no Truesilver from him on turn 4 means I ride my 7/8 Cultist to victory.
1-1

G3 v Druid
Opponent was playing amazing cards like Goldshire Footman and Priestess of Elune while 2 for 1ing himself with Mark of the Wild and Savage Roar. It kind of looked like an aggro deck since there was also a Soul of the Forest somewhere but I never dropped below 20.
2-1

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-21, 08:28 PM
I hit my second loss in my next set of matches. Any more bets on wins before it officially closes?

The Glyphstone
2015-07-21, 08:40 PM
Eh, 5 will be my vote.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-21, 09:53 PM
G4 v Mage
Going first against Aggro Mage that went Turn 1 Wyrm + Coin + Mirror Image into Turn 2 Annoy-o-tron into Turn 3 Tinkertown Technician. No prizes for guessing how well that went for me.
2-2

G5 V Druid
Long grindy game. Traded off early creatures, Thoughtsteal netted me a Starfire and Ironbark. My SW:D x 2 decided the game by first removing an Ancient of War and then his Ironbark in response to mine.
3-2

G6 V Hunter
Turn 1 Coin + Micro Machine, Turn 2 double PW:S, Turn 3 Northshire+Heal, Turn 4 Well fought, I concede. I think it was abit premature to concede that early but I'll take it.
4-2

G7 V Hunter
Turn 1 Coin + Micro Machine, Turn 2 double PW:S, Turn 3 Northshire+HealDark Cultist. Same result.
5-2

G8 V Mage
Had a bad start and my opponent was able to gain board control but he got greedy. Ate my sacrificial lambs that I tossed out with his 3 higher health minions (Spider Tank/Yeti/Stranglethorn), leaving them all at 1/2 health and hit me with a Wolfrider and Arcane Golem instead of trading to threaten lethal on his next turn with the 19 points of damage on board.
My turn 7, didn't draw my Holy Nova but drew the even better card in Explosive Sheep. It allowed me to play Explosive Sheep, Smite Explosive Sheep, play Darkscale Healer. Temple Enforcer on the Darkscale the following turn and I didn't lose board control from there.
6-2

G9 V Rogue
Another grindy game where we traded off creatures and life points for most of the game. Eventually get to topdeck mode with life totals at 12 for me and 18 for him, I have a 4/4 Dark Iron Dwarf in play. He has a 2/1 Perdition's Blade. He draws Drakonid Crusher, I draw Cogmaster. He draws Drakonid Crusher #2 even though he probably didn't need it at that point, I draw Gnomish Experimenter into PWS into Northshire Cleric, healing his Crusher into my second Northshire Cleric...

6-3
Rewards: 135 Gold, Pack containing 40 dust.

Guess you're up Thirsting.

thirsting
2015-07-22, 04:16 AM
Huh.

Hunter, paladin, or druid?

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-22, 04:24 AM
I vote Druid because I don't think we've done one yet have we?

thirsting
2015-07-22, 05:26 AM
I hate Druid, because I seem to suck at playing them in arena, and I suspect it's mostly down to me drafting poorly. Last four or five goes with druid have all ended with two or less wins. So, a perfect choice!


#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-22, 05:36 AM
Madder Bomber RNG time.

Gandariel
2015-07-22, 05:48 AM
Nah, assassin is great. Take him

Zevox
2015-07-22, 06:43 AM
Nah, assassin is great. Take him
...that was sarcastic, right? :smallconfused:

Easy Madder Bomber.

thirsting
2015-07-22, 08:26 AM
Druid
#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin
#2: Gnomeregan Infantry / Voodoo Doctor / Poison Seeds


Legend: Collective picks bolded - the things I would have taken on my own will be marked blue

Divayth Fyr
2015-07-22, 08:46 AM
Poison seeds.


...that was sarcastic, right? :smallconfused:
It's not great, but it can do as a finisher - most boardwipes don't kill a 5-health minion by themselves and stealth prevents direct damage.

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-22, 08:55 AM
I'd still never pick it over Madder Bomber.

And here, yes. Poison Seeds over worse cards.

Gandariel
2015-07-22, 09:28 AM
That was not sarcastic at all. Madder Bomber is OK, but Ravenhodt assassin is a pretty good card. It is often underestimated, but in my experience it's always worked well.

I concede there is not much of a difference in value, but I stand by my pick

thirsting
2015-07-22, 09:54 AM
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Druid
#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin
#2: Gnomeregan Infantry / Voodoo Doctor / Poison Seeds
#3: Acolyte of Pain / Silvermoon Guardian / Stranglethorn Tiger

Gandariel
2015-07-22, 10:20 AM
Eye of the Tiger!

GolemsVoice
2015-07-22, 10:37 AM
Rocky III!

thirsting
2015-07-22, 11:30 AM
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Druid
#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin*
#2: Gnomeregan Infantry / Voodoo Doctor / Poison Seeds*
#3: Acolyte of Pain / Silvermoon Guardian / Stranglethorn Tiger*
#4: Scarlet Crusader / Frostwolf Grunt / Anodized Robo Cub

(Colour maybe bit too confusing afterall. Using asterisk* instead for what would have been my own pick.)

Anarion
2015-07-22, 12:33 PM
#4: Scarlet Crusader / Frostwolf Grunt / Anodized Robo Cub


Hmm, that's a tough one. The scarlet crusader is a classic value 3-drop, but the cub is an early drop mech that provides some value against opposing early drops as a 2/3 or a strong trade-up as 3/2. The cub is probably less good unless you end up with some mech synergy cards later on, but would open you up to taking mech things you see later.

So, all that said, I'd take the cub here because my rule of thumb is to always take the cheaper card when I'm not sure.

Gandariel
2015-07-22, 12:39 PM
I'd probably go Scarlet here. The versatility of the Robo-cub *sounds* interesting, but it's pretty unimportant 90% of the times. Cub is still an above-average 2-drop, but Scarlet is really good.

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-22, 01:27 PM
Yeah, I've tried the cub a lot of times, and most of the time it's just bloodfen raptor. Take scarlet.

Jormengand
2015-07-22, 02:17 PM
Buttbuttination commencing.

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome
Ironfur Grizzly/Mechwarper/Ogre Brute
Hungry Crab/Piloted Sky Golem/Sabotage
Windfury Harpy/Reckless Rocketeer/Vanish
Explosive Sheep/Anub'ar Ambusher/Assassinate
Assassin's blade/Flying Machine/Booty Bay Bodyguard

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The_Jackal
2015-07-22, 02:23 PM
Yeah, I've tried the cub a lot of times, and most of the time it's just bloodfen raptor. Take scarlet.

Yes, easy crusader. Cub is just a 3/2, because taunts that weak aren't worth ANYTHING, whereas the list of things Scarlet won't trade into with advantage is pretty short.

The_Jackal
2015-07-22, 02:24 PM
Assassin's blade/Flying Machine/Booty Bay Bodyguard

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Assassin's blade over garbage.

Anarion
2015-07-22, 03:27 PM
I feel like crowdsourcing my next draft after a couple bad ones. Hopefully it's not too confusing with everyone going right now.

So first off: Paladin/Hunter/Priest

GolemsVoice
2015-07-22, 03:50 PM
@Jormengand:

Assassin's Blade!

@Anarion: Priest!

Anarion
2015-07-22, 03:56 PM
@Jormengand:

Assassin's Blade!

@Anarion: Priest!

Exclamation marks are extra convincing, so priest it is.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus/Mana Wraith

That's an exciting start.

Sian
2015-07-22, 04:04 PM
Tough call between Shadow Madness and Defender, but i'd probably take Shadow Madness over Defender 'cause protential in trading one card for two of your opponents, or negating a low attack Taunt you need to get past to eat his face or small minions

Zevox
2015-07-22, 05:15 PM
That was not sarcastic at all. Madder Bomber is OK, but Ravenhodt assassin is a pretty good card. It is often underestimated, but in my experience it's always worked well.

I concede there is not much of a difference in value, but I stand by my pick
I would reverse those descriptions, personally: Ravenholdt is okay, Madder Bomber is pretty good. Ravenholdt's undesirable stat distribution is a big problem compared to other beef. The only thing it does well is potentially giving you a big finisher the opponent might not be able to stop, if you're in a situation where that's useful. And they can still stop it with taunt, or healing. Madder Bomber meanwhile has better stats for its mana cost than the Assassin and an effect which can help you catch up from behind, which makes it easily the better card in my mind.

I'd only take Ravenholdt over bad cards. Madder Bomber I'd consider even when it's up against some good cards.

Current pick: easy Scarlet Crusader, as others have said.

@ Anarion - Shadow Madness. It's often a pretty high-value card in arena.

Anarion
2015-07-22, 05:18 PM
Second vote for shadow madness=shadow madness. I'd have picked the Defender of Argus, but I'm probably undervaluing the big turn swing.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova

heronbpv
2015-07-22, 07:15 PM
@Anarion:
Take Holy Nova. I would rather garantee the potential board clear, though a case can be made for any of the 3 choices.

@Jormengand:
I second the Assasin's Blade.

@thirsting:
Same for the Scarlet Crusader.

Lethologica
2015-07-22, 08:07 PM
#4: Scarlet Crusader / Frostwolf Grunt / Anodized Robo Cub
Crusader. Choosing between two similar mediocre 2-drops doesn't beat a good 3-drop.


Assassin's blade/Flying Machine/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Blade is value.


2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
Holy Nova, because mass board clear is rare in Priest. PWS second, Smite third.

The_Jackal
2015-07-22, 08:13 PM
Second vote for shadow madness=shadow madness. I'd have picked the Defender of Argus, but I'm probably undervaluing the big turn swing.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova

Very tough call here, imo. PW:S is a great tempo card, but you probably need to take the nova, even though I think it's somewhat overrated in Arena (cost is a bit high, and the heal can often do little-to-nothing. Anyway, Nova is probably the pick.

Anarion
2015-07-22, 08:36 PM
Holy nova it is, was where I was leaning too.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit

The Glyphstone
2015-07-22, 08:48 PM
Crusader is good. Cultist is great. Nab it.

Anarion
2015-07-22, 09:34 PM
Crusader is good. Cultist is great. Nab it.

Indeed, I nearly skipped that one.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer

thirsting
2015-07-22, 10:23 PM
1:
2:
3: x
4: x
5: xx
6:
7+:


#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin*
#2: Gnomeregan Infantry / Voodoo Doctor / Poison Seeds*
#3: Acolyte of Pain / Silvermoon Guardian / Stranglethorn Tiger*
#4: Scarlet Crusader* / Frostwolf Grunt / Anodized Robo Cub
#5: Explosive Sheep / Wild Growth / Grimscale Oracle


Jormengand: You've already got more than enough votes for more buttbuttination, but here's one more
Anarion: Faerie Dragon, even if it can't be buffed directly. It just survives to see the next round reliably, when played on empty board

Anarion
2015-07-22, 10:43 PM
Anarion: Faerie Dragon, even if it can't be buffed directly. It just survives to see the next round reliably, when played on empty board

I concur. As for yours, you've got a 4 and a 5 that would be nice to get early. I'd say take the wild growth. I might be wrong though, I just find I always draw explosive sheep at times it would hurt me more than help.


Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit/inner fire

I lean strongly towards the divine spirit. Engineer adds some smoothness to the curve, but divine spirit has some big play moments.

Zevox
2015-07-23, 01:58 AM
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
I know it's already passed, but I want to say that's a very tough call between Shield and Nova. On the one hand, AoE can be huge in arena and can be hard to pick up; on the other, Nova isn't one of the better AoE cards out there, and it's easy to overestimate it. Power Word: Shield meanwhile is just a strong card, full stop - a buff that can save a minion's life for 1 mana, and it cantrips so there's no issue with it potentially becoming card disadvantage.

I don't think there is a wrong pick there, but I might lean towards the Shield. Mostly because your first pick was Shadow Madness, which is itself AoE of a sort, and sometimes much better than Nova, so you do already have that in a way.


#5: Explosive Sheep / Wild Growth / Grimscale Oracle
Sadly, Growth is the least bad there. Sheep is just too often counter-productive in arena, even in Mage, the class best-suited to use it.


5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit/inner fire

I lean strongly towards the divine spirit. Engineer adds some smoothness to the curve, but divine spirit has some big play moments.
I lean strongly towards Novice Engineer. Paladin hero power in card form isn't impressive, but it's not terrible. Those buffs, on the other hand, are often terrible.

Gandariel
2015-07-23, 02:01 AM
Agree with Zevox on all 3 points.

And i invite you to try out Ravenhodt next time you catch it in Arena and see it work

Infernally Clay
2015-07-23, 02:02 AM
Make that three for Novice Engineer. It's actually "pay two mana, draw a card" and for that it's consistent value. The body is neglible but could come in handy other ways, like breaking Divine Shields or something.

I do think Holy Nova was the right pick, though. Love me some AoE.

Anarion
2015-07-23, 02:05 AM
Novice engineer it is then.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster (not going to waste everyone's time on that one)
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage

The mage is awful, but I'm on the fence about whether I want a potentially strong 5 drop or the 3/2 for 2.

Zevox
2015-07-23, 02:06 AM
And i invite you to try out Ravenhodt next time you catch it in Arena and see it work
Um, it's not like I've never used it in arena before. I certainly have. What I said about it is based on those experiences, and my experiences with Madder Bomber.


7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage

The mage is awful, but I'm on the fence about whether I want a potentially strong 5 drop or the 3/2 for 2.
The 3/2 for 2. Frostwolf Warlord can fairly consistently be a 5/5 for 5, which makes it not bad, but you really can't count on more than that. And as vanilla cards go, a 3/2 for 2 is more important to have than a 5/5 for 5, since having something good to play on turn 2 is much more important than having something mediocre to play on turn 5.

Anarion
2015-07-23, 02:13 AM
The 3/2 for 2. Frostwolf Warlord can fairly consistently be a 5/5 for 5, which makes it not bad, but you really can't count on more than that. And as vanilla cards go, a 3/2 for 2 is more important to have than a 5/5 for 5, since having something good to play on turn 2 is much more important than having something mediocre to play on turn 5.

Done and done.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen (too obvious to ask)
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp (again too obvious)
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner

And I'm going to bed, so I'll look at thoughts tomorrow.

Gandariel
2015-07-23, 02:18 AM
Not much to think about. Easy Auchenai

Infernally Clay
2015-07-23, 02:30 AM
Waaaait... You picked Sen'jin over Northshire? As nice as taunt is, the card draw you'd get from Northshire isn't the kind of thing you pass up. Moreso since card draw is super important, especially in Arena.

I would've picked Frostwolf, at any rate. Arena is all about aggressive board control and, while he won't win you games you're already losing, dropping an 8/8 on turn whatever because you built and maintained board control is pretty big. It's also better to topdeck a 4/4 than a 3/2 and you're currently lacking big, "win more", cards anyway.

Auchenai is a no brainer, though.

Gandariel
2015-07-23, 02:43 AM
Oh yeah, i didn't check. Northshire was probably better than Senjin. Senjin isn't completely wrong, but i would have taken the Cleric

And lightspawn over Raging Worgen, while correct, is not such a no-brainer. Don't skip picks! :)

Jormengand
2015-07-23, 10:19 AM
But Jormengand, however will we buttbuttinate anything without a buttbuttin's blade?

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome
Ironfur Grizzly/Mechwarper/Ogre Brute
Hungry Crab/Piloted Sky Golem/Sabotage
Windfury Harpy/Reckless Rocketeer/Vanish
Explosive Sheep/Anub'ar Ambusher/Assassinate
Assassin's blade/Flying Machine/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Antique Healer/Amani Berserker/Booty Bay Bodyguard

That BBB is really trying to get into this deck. Also, what is it with this deck and 2-drops and 5-drops?

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thirsting
2015-07-23, 10:27 AM
There's already so many 2's, so some healing might be nice at this point. Medic!

Jormengand
2015-07-23, 10:32 AM
Let's avoid our 2-drop problem by contributing to our 5-drop problem! :smalltongue:

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome
Ironfur Grizzly/Mechwarper/Ogre Brute
Hungry Crab/Piloted Sky Golem/Sabotage
Windfury Harpy/Reckless Rocketeer/Vanish
Explosive Sheep/Anub'ar Ambusher/Assassinate
Assassin's blade/Flying Machine/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Antique Healer/Amani Berserker/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Dragonling Mechanic/Shieldbearer/Dark Iron Dwarf

Did someone just play Emperor on our curve?

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Anarion
2015-07-23, 12:07 PM
I've never had much luck with Northshire cleric (it's either very hard to do more than use it as one mana cycling or it hits for a couple damage and dies), but I'll keep that in mind for the future. Next one looks like an easy spider tank to me, but I won't skip anymore. :smallsmile:

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank

Lethologica
2015-07-23, 12:40 PM
#5: Explosive Sheep / Wild Growth / Grimscale Oracle
Wild Growth will be useful more often than Sheep will be.


Dragonling Mechanic/Shieldbearer/Dark Iron Dwarf
Dwarf is the clear pick.


11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
Stalker is a good on-curve 2-drop, but Spider Tank is ahead of the 3-drop curve, so it's better.

thirsting
2015-07-23, 12:41 PM
1:
2: x
3: x
4: x
5: xx
6:
7+:


#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin*
#2: Gnomeregan Infantry / Voodoo Doctor / Poison Seeds*
#3: Acolyte of Pain / Silvermoon Guardian / Stranglethorn Tiger*
#4: Scarlet Crusader* / Frostwolf Grunt / Anodized Robo Cub
#5: Explosive Sheep* / Wild Growth / Grimscale Oracle
#6: Healing Touch / Mechanical Yeti / Mad Scientist

Well... this one surely could have been skipped, but better not.

Anarion
2015-07-23, 12:43 PM
Stalker is a good on-curve 2-drop, but Spider Tank is ahead of the 3-drop curve, so it's better.

Spider tank because it's ahead of the competition.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster

Edit: @thirsting, take your mech yeti and enjoy.

thirsting
2015-07-23, 12:51 PM
1:
2: x
3: x
4: xx
5: xx
6:
7+:


#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin*
#2: Gnomeregan Infantry / Voodoo Doctor / Poison Seeds*
#3: Acolyte of Pain / Silvermoon Guardian / Stranglethorn Tiger*
#4: Scarlet Crusader* / Frostwolf Grunt / Anodized Robo Cub
#5: Explosive Sheep* / Wild Growth / Grimscale Oracle
#6: Healing Touch / Mechanical Yeti* / Mad Scientist
#7: Wild Growth / Stormwind Champion / Gilblin Stalker


Anarion's pick... I would take Tiger, but don't listen me alone!

Lethologica
2015-07-23, 01:02 PM
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
Not easy, but Tiger is more reliable than Ghoul. (Interesting to compare Warlord-Ghoul to Spider-Tiger in the last two picks.)


#7: Wild Growth / Stormwind Champion / Gilblin Stalker
Champion, I think. The curve's getting high, but we're still in the first third.

Jormengand
2015-07-23, 02:46 PM
GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome
Ironfur Grizzly/Mechwarper/Ogre Brute
Hungry Crab/Piloted Sky Golem/Sabotage
Windfury Harpy/Reckless Rocketeer/Vanish
Explosive Sheep/Anub'ar Ambusher/Assassinate
Assassin's blade/Flying Machine/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Antique Healer/Amani Berserker/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Dragonling Mechanic/Shieldbearer/Dark Iron Dwarf
Deadly Poison/Stranglethorn Tiger/Flying Machine

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Destro_Yersul
2015-07-23, 02:53 PM
Deadly Poison.

Jormengand
2015-07-23, 02:56 PM
DEATly poison, coming right up.

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome
Ironfur Grizzly/Mechwarper/Ogre Brute
Hungry Crab/Piloted Sky Golem/Sabotage
Windfury Harpy/Reckless Rocketeer/Vanish
Explosive Sheep/Anub'ar Ambusher/Assassinate
Assassin's blade/Flying Machine/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Antique Healer/Amani Berserker/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Dragonling Mechanic/Shieldbearer/Dark Iron Dwarf
Deadly Poison/Stranglethorn Tiger/Flying Machine
Mini-Mage/Blood Knight/Murloc Warleader

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Anarion
2015-07-23, 03:03 PM
Tigers. They're grrreat.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor


@Jormengand: You don't have any spell damage cards at all, so I'd pass on the mini-mage. Go with the blood knight. He's solid enough and a huge blowout if you happen to get lucky.

edit: I should start posting my curve.
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2: xxx
3: xx
4: xxxx
5: xxx
6

Divayth Fyr
2015-07-23, 03:07 PM
DEATly poison, coming right up.
Mini-Mage/Blood Knight/Murloc Warleader
Easy Knight.


#7: Wild Growth / Stormwind Champion / Gilblin Stalker
Champion I'd say.


13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
While you have some early game cards, I'd probably still take raptor - Lord is an expensive taunt with a bit too low health, and the last card isn't worth mentioning...

Jormengand
2015-07-23, 03:09 PM
Mm, tasty tasty shields.

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome
Ironfur Grizzly/Mechwarper/Ogre Brute
Hungry Crab/Piloted Sky Golem/Sabotage
Windfury Harpy/Reckless Rocketeer/Vanish
Explosive Sheep/Anub'ar Ambusher/Assassinate
Assassin's blade/Flying Machine/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Antique Healer/Amani Berserker/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Dragonling Mechanic/Shieldbearer/Dark Iron Dwarf
Deadly Poison/Stranglethorn Tiger/Flying Machine
Mini-Mage/Blood Knight/Murloc Warleader
Silver Hand Knight/Goblin Auto-Barber/Ship's Cannon

We cannot escape the curse of the 2- and 5-drops!

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EDIT: Also, I'm going to recommend beholding the might of Stormwind and opening the gates.

GolemsVoice
2015-07-23, 03:24 PM
You should absolutely behold the might of Stormwind, it's quite the thing.

Anarion
2015-07-23, 03:37 PM
Bloodfen raptor. Because the classics are important. Also I hate lord of the arena, it always, always dies to something cheaper than it is, so glad it went that way.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor

Hmm, the frostwolf's just won't go away (but probably just won't get picked either). Shadow word: [something] where aaaare you?

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2: xxxx
3: xx
4: xxxx
5: xxx
6

Mando Knight
2015-07-23, 03:38 PM
#7: Wild Growth / Stormwind Champion / Gilblin Stalker
Stormwind. Gilblin is also decent, but Stormwind is better overall, AFAIK.

13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
LotA isn't bad in Arena (he can eat an attack if you need a taunt, and he can hit pretty hard if you need a beatstick), but it's not really better than Raptor. If this was the too-many-2-drops Rogue deck, I'd go with LotA, but here the Raptor is probably the pick.

Silver Hand Knight/Goblin Auto-Barber/Ship's Cannon
Squire, attend his deck! The Auto-Barber is tempting because of the potential synergy with the Assassin's Blade, but you need more lategame stuff and Silver Hand Knight is decent in Arena.

Edit because I got ninja'd by a new pick:

14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
Mind Control, I think. One in the deck is good. Frostwolf Warlord is probably my second bet... Bloodfen is too basic to match up with the Warlord, and crowding the 2-drop slot with 3/2s isn't what we want in Priest (we already have a Raptor Classic, plus a Magic-Proof Dragon Raptor and a Murloc Raptor).

Jormengand
2015-07-23, 03:41 PM
The squire is apparently going to go off and attend the deck of someone who is not me. Huh.

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome
Ironfur Grizzly/Mechwarper/Ogre Brute
Hungry Crab/Piloted Sky Golem/Sabotage
Windfury Harpy/Reckless Rocketeer/Vanish
Explosive Sheep/Anub'ar Ambusher/Assassinate
Assassin's blade/Flying Machine/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Antique Healer/Amani Berserker/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Dragonling Mechanic/Shieldbearer/Dark Iron Dwarf
Deadly Poison/Stranglethorn Tiger/Flying Machine
Mini-Mage/Blood Knight/Murloc Warleader
Silver Hand Knight/Goblin Auto-Barber/Ship's Cannon
Mad Bomber/Dark Iron Dwarf/Anub'ar Ambusher

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thirsting
2015-07-23, 03:48 PM
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#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin*
#2: Gnomeregan Infantry / Voodoo Doctor / Poison Seeds*
#3: Acolyte of Pain / Silvermoon Guardian / Stranglethorn Tiger*
#4: Scarlet Crusader* / Frostwolf Grunt / Anodized Robo Cub
#5: Explosive Sheep* / Wild Growth / Grimscale Oracle
#6: Healing Touch / Mechanical Yeti* / Mad Scientist
#7: Wild Growth / Stormwind Champion* / Gilblin Stalker
#8: War Golem / Harvest Golem / Dread Corsair


J: Beard of +2 attack
A: Mind Control

Anarion
2015-07-23, 03:50 PM
Mind control because big swings are cool if we hit turn 10.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon

That one looks easy.

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edit:
@Jormengand: value dwarf.
@thirsting: harvest golem. That's the one that doesn't cost 7. :smallwink:

Jormengand
2015-07-23, 03:53 PM
It's like Kurt Helborg, only with beards!

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome
Ironfur Grizzly/Mechwarper/Ogre Brute
Hungry Crab/Piloted Sky Golem/Sabotage
Windfury Harpy/Reckless Rocketeer/Vanish
Explosive Sheep/Anub'ar Ambusher/Assassinate
Assassin's blade/Flying Machine/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Antique Healer/Amani Berserker/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Dragonling Mechanic/Shieldbearer/Dark Iron Dwarf
Deadly Poison/Stranglethorn Tiger/Flying Machine
Mini-Mage/Blood Knight/Murloc Warleader
Silver Hand Knight/Goblin Auto-Barber/Ship's Cannon
Mad Bomber/Dark Iron Dwarf/Anub'ar Ambusher
Alarm-o-bot/Abomination/Demolisher

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Lethologica
2015-07-23, 04:03 PM
#8: War Golem / Harvest Golem / Dread Corsair
Harvest Golem over junk.


15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
Lightspawn over Crocolisk+.


Alarm-o-bot/Abomination/Demolisher

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Is it just me? I feel like Abom will hurt as much as help, if not more. Also, filling up the 3 slot. Demolisher--but get a second or third opinion.

thirsting
2015-07-23, 04:07 PM
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#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin*
#2: Gnomeregan Infantry / Voodoo Doctor / Poison Seeds*
#3: Acolyte of Pain / Silvermoon Guardian / Stranglethorn Tiger*
#4: Scarlet Crusader* / Frostwolf Grunt / Anodized Robo Cub
#5: Explosive Sheep* / Wild Growth / Grimscale Oracle
#6: Healing Touch / Mechanical Yeti* / Mad Scientist
#7: Wild Growth / Stormwind Champion* / Gilblin Stalker
#8: War Golem / Harvest Golem* / Dread Corsair
#9: Moonfire / Druid of the Claw / Gnomish Inventor


All three drafters commenting on each other's picks feels a bit weird.. *shrug*

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-23, 04:09 PM
Demolisher over Abomination, with that many 2 drops.

Also, easy Druid of the Claw.

Jormengand
2015-07-23, 04:23 PM
All right! That's it, ladies, gentlemen and others, we have a deck! Place your bets now!

GARROSH HELLSCREAM/REXXAR/VALEERA SANGUINAR
Bomb lobber/Sludge Belcher/Stampeding Kodo
Tinker's Sharpsword Oil/Ironfur Grizzly/Abusive Sergeant
Dread corsair/Worgen Infiltrator/Betrayal
Nightblade/Bloodfen Raptor/Stormwind Knight
Betrayal/Gang Up/Frostwolf Warlord
Unstable Ghoul/Gurubashi Berserker/Grimscale Oracle
Young Dragonhawk/Defias Ringleader/Explosive Sheep
Betrayal/Sinister Strike/Bloodfen Raptor
Eviscerate/Ancient Brewmaster/Faerie Dragon
Hobgoblin/Doomsayer/Recombobulator
Worgen Infiltrator/Sinister Strike/Voodoo Doctor
Magma Rager/Silverback Patriarch/Salty Dog
Faerie Dragon/Booty Bay Bodyguard/Amani Berserker
Ship's Cannon/Haunted Creeper/Shiv
Ogre Brute/Core Hound/Antique Healbot
Spellbreaker/Anub'ar Ambusher/Nerub'ar Weblord
Spectral Knight/Fan of Knives/Raid Leader
Silverback Patriarch/Frost Elemental/Clockwork Gnome
Ironfur Grizzly/Mechwarper/Ogre Brute
Hungry Crab/Piloted Sky Golem/Sabotage
Windfury Harpy/Reckless Rocketeer/Vanish
Explosive Sheep/Anub'ar Ambusher/Assassinate
Assassin's blade/Flying Machine/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Antique Healer/Amani Berserker/Booty Bay Bodyguard
Dragonling Mechanic/Shieldbearer/Dark Iron Dwarf
Deadly Poison/Stranglethorn Tiger/Flying Machine
Mini-Mage/Blood Knight/Murloc Warleader
Silver Hand Knight/Goblin Auto-Barber/Ship's Cannon
Mad Bomber/Dark Iron Dwarf/Anub'ar Ambusher
Alarm-o-bot/Abomination/Demolisher

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thirsting
2015-07-23, 04:24 PM
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#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin*
#2: Gnomeregan Infantry / Voodoo Doctor / Poison Seeds*
#3: Acolyte of Pain / Silvermoon Guardian / Stranglethorn Tiger*
#4: Scarlet Crusader* / Frostwolf Grunt / Anodized Robo Cub
#5: Explosive Sheep* / Wild Growth / Grimscale Oracle
#6: Healing Touch / Mechanical Yeti* / Mad Scientist
#7: Wild Growth / Stormwind Champion* / Gilblin Stalker
#8: War Golem / Harvest Golem* / Dread Corsair
#9: Moonfire / Druid of the Claw* / Gnomish Inventor
#10: Lil' Exorcist / Gnomish Experimenter / Secretkeeper

Nooo, not chickenizer.. I know someone's going to say chickenizer.

Lethologica
2015-07-23, 04:40 PM
All right! That's it, ladies, gentlemen and others, we have a deck! Place your bets now!
Solid cards. Mebbe a little top-heavy. 7 wins with good play.


#10: Lil' Exorcist / Gnomish Experimenter / Secretkeeper

Nooo, not chickenizer.. I know someone's going to say chickenizer.
Chickenizer is pretty terrible in Arena considering most of your cards are minions. Hold your nose and pick the Exorcist.

Anarion
2015-07-23, 04:45 PM
Lightspawn of course.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer

A solid creature either early or late here, but I really want some spells soon. I'm worried about getting out tempoed.

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I'm going to put Jormengand's deck at 5-x. It's strong, but I don't see a ton of explosiveness from it and he may do a good job smashing his own face in. Still likely to beat any deck that misses a beat in the first few turns though.



#10: Lil' Exorcist / Gnomish Experimenter / Secretkeeper

Nooo, not chickenizer.. I know someone's going to say chickenizer.

Well, I mean, look, secretkeeper is worthless for you and Lil' Exorcist is usually terrible. Gnomish experimenter isn't much better, but at least he trades up and thins your deck.

Jormengand
2015-07-23, 04:49 PM
Chickenizer is pretty terrible in Arena considering most of your cards are minions. Hold your nose and pick the Exorcist.

Actually, the number of minions you have is only relevant when determining whether it's a cantripping 3/2 (Good) or a razorfen hunter with slightly funny stats (Decent). Because you're probably never going to get through all your cards anyway, it doesn't matter that you lose the top card because you're just as likely to lose the worst as the best.

Lethologica
2015-07-23, 04:51 PM
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
Temple Enforcer is both excellent and a curve-topper. But...your curve is pretty high, yeah.

Still. I'm greedy. I'd take the Enforcer.


Actually, the number of minions you have is only relevant when determining whether it's a cantripping 3/2 (Good) or a razorfen hunter with slightly funny stats (Decent). Because you're probably never going to get through all your cards anyway, it doesn't matter that you lose the top card because you're just as likely to lose the worst as the best.
Okay, that's true. I don't like the second case, but I guess it's still better than a 2/3.

Anarion
2015-07-23, 05:16 PM
Greed is good

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite

I'm gonna need a lot of convincing not to take that holy smite.

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Jormengand
2015-07-23, 05:24 PM
Mm, I'd take unholy blight instead, actually. (Yeah, take it.)

Zevox
2015-07-23, 05:28 PM
#10: Lil' Exorcist / Gnomish Experimenter / Secretkeeper

Nooo, not chickenizer.. I know someone's going to say chickenizer.
Indeed, Gnomish Experimenter. Lil' Exorcist is bad unless it gets its buff, while the Experimenter is sometimes good, sometimes underwhelming, and rarely bad - the card it turns into a chicken needs to have been important to the matchup for it to be truly bad. And in arena, it's much less likely that any given card you turn into a chicken is important to the matchup than it is in constructed, where every card is in your deck for a reason.

Gnomish Experimenter is one of those cards that will never see constructed play, but is fine in arena. Lil' Exorcist is a card that could work in constructed, if the meta had more deathrattles (like it did back before GvG), but likely won't ever be that good in arena, since it's too situational for that format.

thirsting
2015-07-23, 06:05 PM
dangit.. experimenting then

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#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin*
#2: Gnomeregan Infantry / Voodoo Doctor / Poison Seeds*
#3: Acolyte of Pain / Silvermoon Guardian / Stranglethorn Tiger*
#4: Scarlet Crusader* / Frostwolf Grunt / Anodized Robo Cub
#5: Explosive Sheep* / Wild Growth / Grimscale Oracle
#6: Healing Touch / Mechanical Yeti* / Mad Scientist
#7: Wild Growth / Stormwind Champion* / Gilblin Stalker
#8: War Golem / Harvest Golem* / Dread Corsair
#9: Moonfire / Druid of the Claw* / Gnomish Inventor
#10: Lil' Exorcist* / Gnomish Experimenter / Secretkeeper
#11: Savage Roar / Faerie Dragon / Mogu'shan Warden


A: Holy Smite, but I could have picked Frosty too, depending on mood..

Glad I spectated Jormengand's first (?) game. Intense - Piloted Sky Golem spewed out lucky Mogu'shan Warden, which was just enough to stabilize J's hp total to 1 or 2 for several (5, 6?) turns vs enemy druids 20+ hp. Very narrow victory

Jormengand
2015-07-23, 06:29 PM
Game 1: Vs Druid

I actually have a 1-drop in the form of a Worgen. Foe plays bloodfen, even though doing so is very silly. A few more good trades put me in a good place, including an amazing madder bomber backfire. Unfortunately, a well-placed Soul of the Forest robs me of momentum and my opponent ends up wearing me down with hero powers. A mogu'shan from the sky golem saves my life just long enough for me to swoop in for the kill with topdecked reckless rocketeers. I did not, by any stretch of the imagination, deserve that.

Game 2: Vs Hunter

Nothing happens for a while, then I coin mad bomber to kill an alarm, then recombob it into a siege engine. Enemy pulls a baffling You Shall Not Pass/Handle It combo, and the Frostwolves decide to stand ready, overwhelming him with their 8/8ness. While they get feared into the whelps Krushed, the rest of my board is lethal, and my foe concedes.

That's a 50 DKP minus.

Game 3: Vs Hunter

I pass. He passes. I use creeper. He coins huffer and doesn't attack anyone with him. A moment later, I have 26 hit points, 2 spiders and half a knife. He leokks. I anub'ar and go face with the spiders. Kill command on the ambusher. Spider, combo tinker's onto the other spider. Knife leokk, spider face. You Must Say The Name Of This Card Out Loud When You Play It. 2 dead spiders and a hero power. Sky golem. Secret and hero power and glaivezooka. Dwarf the golem, both die to misdirection, there's a dragon mechanic, I play demolisher to back her up. Eeeveryone, Get In Here! and a glaive attack to face, hero power. I special delivery, grab a knife, and all go face. Multi-shot, the mechanic unharmed. A mogushan assassinated, and some more facing. Deadly shot on the mechanic; a secret. Pintsize, who is demolished. Poisoned donkeydonkeyin's blade, and we go face more. Wondering where he got his second patron from, deciding it doesn't matter, I face for the kill.

Game 4: Vs Warlock

This one ends up with me DEAT+Sharping a buttdonkeyin's blade and going face really fast. Unfortunately, doesn't quite work, with my opponent a turn away from death as he kills me.

Game 5: Vs golden druid

Well damn.

Okay, fine, I have a worgen T1. He coins trogg, and I stab it. Micro, I poison, stab, creeper. After he plays flying machine, we start sorta playing past each other. Some trades happen. Much facing occurs. He casts Everything is Treants and Volcanodrake; dwarf helps in the pwnage effort. reduced to topkeking, he pulls a lumberer. The best laid healbots of druids and rogues manage to save me, but a starfire and a savage roar end me.

Game 6: Vs golden hunter

Oh, shove off already.

Snakes happen, scavenging hyena happens, my board of a worgen and a remarkably accurate demolisher takes it down. Misdirection kills my defias goodies. Opponent decides that a 3/3 questing will trade amazingly against a 3/1 knife. Frostwolves only hit the field as 7/7 this time. Owl returns them to 4/4, where they get longbow'd. After we both near topdecking zone, a coldlight pushes us back up, and I win the resulting trade hard. Highlight is when my my ambusher's deathrattle hits the healbot. I win.

I then steal his gold and put it on my Fan of Knives as I reach level 30.

Game 7: Vs Druid

I'm glad to say I've never coined hero power before. But today I did. I then bloodfen, who dies to wrath. Fairie dragon to stop him doing it again, and it kills his yeti with aid of dorf. Dorf is specially delivered, and then donkeybuttin's blade kills the SD. Ogre faces off a salty dog. Unfortunately, starfire. I hide a SH knight behind ghoul, and my whole line dies. Multiple turns later, the damn ogre's still alive. Fortunate use of blood knight on the annoy-o is too late to put me back in the game. However, Frosty The Mental saves my butt. The frostwolves stand ready as an 8/8, and on 3 hit points I watch the 12-HP 1-armour druid concede to my battleline.

I swear I didn't deserve that one either.

Game 8: Vs Rogue

We run at each other with knives. Welp. Then the game progresses a little more sensibly, which entails her making a lot of poor-card-economy removals. My special delivery is returned by spidder to my hand. My silver hand knight turns into ogre ninjas, which is cool. I end up DEATing her face until she surrenders against a ninja, a pirate and a vampire knight thingummy. No zombies or robots, though.

Game 9: Vs Mage

Opponent wolfs. Opponent then apprentices. Wolf attacks, I attack back. I get frostbolted in the face. Which is fine; it means I'm not getting bolted anywhere else. My brute takes out a tazdingo with my knife, then as recombob hits the field, ogre gets on a wolf and charges apprentice down. She fireballs face, twice, and I die. RIP.

End result: 80% discount on a GvG containing force tank DAVE, stonesplinter, Jeeves, Fel Reaver, and clockwork gnome. I'll take that.

Anarion
2015-07-23, 06:52 PM
Holy smite and not unholy blight. :smalltongue: Why is smite with a silent E and blight is with ght, anyway? English is dumb.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper

I'd take the patron in a heartbeat if I'd picked pw:s over holy nova way back when, but alas. Pretty unsure of this one.

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@Jormengand: beat my expectations, nice job. :smallsmile:
@thirsting: I'd take the savage roar. Strong finisher or effective removal as needed.

Lethologica
2015-07-23, 07:29 PM
#11: Savage Roar / Faerie Dragon / Mogu'shan Warden
Faerie Dragon is clear. You lack 2-drops and it's also just a better card than Savage Roar.


18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
Grim Patron would be terrible even with PWS picked. Warrior and Mage are your best chances at it not being terrible...but it's still terrible. For that matter, I'd rather PWS Questing Adventurer.

QA and Goblin Sapper are both mediocre cards (usually 3/3 vs. usually 2/4) with randomly huge upsides. With it not making a significant difference, I lean towards Questing Adventurer.

Destro_Yersul
2015-07-23, 09:47 PM
Questing is good if you have a lot of low-cost cards, which you don't. It's really close. I think I lean towards questing slightly.

Anarion
2015-07-23, 10:36 PM
Close call leaning towards questing. We'll try to get cheap cards going forward.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
19th pick: holy nova/amani berserker/silvermoon guardian

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Lethologica
2015-07-24, 12:07 AM
Man, so this is the...third?...choice between card quality and curve in the last six picks. Holy Nova is much better than Berserker, though.

thirsting
2015-07-24, 10:28 AM
Holy Nova vote from me too.

Also, need a tie breaker: Savage Roar or Faerie Dragon? I'm determined to not do pick decisions on my own.

CarpeGuitarrem
2015-07-24, 10:56 AM
Man, so this is the...third?...choice between card quality and curve in the last six picks. Holy Nova is much better than Berserker, though.
Curve is IMO fine so far, Holy Nova is the easy pick here.

Anarion
2015-07-24, 12:02 PM
snapped up the holy nova

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
19th pick: holy nova/amani berserker/silvermoon guardian
20th pick: nerubian egg/master sword smith/upgraded repair bot

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Lethologica
2015-07-24, 12:38 PM
Holy Nova vote from me too.

Also, need a tie breaker: Savage Roar or Faerie Dragon? I'm determined to not do pick decisions on my own.
I would, but I've already voted.


20th pick: nerubian egg/master sword smith/upgraded repair bot
One of these cards is actually on curve or close to it, Egg is only useful as insurance against mass removal which Priest is vulnerable to anyway, Sword Smith is usually bad, and you even have a couple mech cards. Upgraded Repair Bot it is.

Anarion
2015-07-24, 01:44 PM
5 mana 5/5 that might have upside once in a while

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
19th pick: holy nova/amani berserker/silvermoon guardian
20th pick: nerubian egg/master sword smith/upgraded repair bot
21st pick: bloodsail raider/mad bomber/dragonkin sorcerer

Once again, I notice I have no buffs at all (though we'd still probably go with the bomber even if we did).

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Lethologica
2015-07-24, 02:54 PM
21st pick: bloodsail raider/mad bomber/dragonkin sorcerer
This is an explosive pick. No, no it isn't. But yes, take the Bomber.

Sian
2015-07-24, 03:11 PM
Been not playing Arena for a while and now I start itching for one so lets crowdsource it

Mage/Priest/Druid

Mage seems obivous :p

Anarion
2015-07-24, 04:07 PM
One bomber later.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
19th pick: holy nova/amani berserker/silvermoon guardian
20th pick: nerubian egg/master sword smith/upgraded repair bot
21st pick: bloodsail raider/mad bomber/dragonkin sorcerer
22nd pick: silvermoon guardian/lightspawn/acolyte of pain


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Been not playing Arena for a while and now I start itching for one so lets crowdsource it

Mage/Priest/Druid

Mage seems obivous :p

Mage!

Sian
2015-07-24, 04:10 PM
Class: Mage/Priest/Druid

1st: Jeeves/Angry Chicken/Arcane Golem

Gut feeling says Arcane Golem is the least bad of the set, although Jeeves might compete.

Lethologica
2015-07-24, 04:17 PM
22nd pick: silvermoon guardian/lightspawn/acolyte of pain[/SPOILER]
Lightspawn, I think. Not that card draw is bad, but the tools to make Acolyte generate real CA aren't there, and it's otherwise a pretty dead play.


1st: Jeeves/Angry Chicken/Arcane Golem
Arcane Golem for sure. Discount Argent Commander is superior in a class noted for burn.

Jormengand
2015-07-24, 04:20 PM
I'd take Jeeves in the interest of not giving your opponent a free 2-drop.

Sian
2015-07-24, 04:20 PM
Class: Mage/Priest/Druid

1st: Jeeves/Angry Chicken/Arcane Golem
2nd: Frost Bolt/Arcane Explosion/Gurubashi Berserker

Frost Bolt?

Anarion
2015-07-24, 04:26 PM
Another lightspawn. This deck has a pretty strong bump in power around 4 mana. Lots of good stats. Questionable at this point how it's going to really push an advantage though.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
19th pick: holy nova/amani berserker/silvermoon guardian
20th pick: nerubian egg/master sword smith/upgraded repair bot
21st pick: bloodsail raider/mad bomber/dragonkin sorcerer
22nd pick: silvermoon guardian/lightspawn/acolyte of pain
23rd pick: volcanic drak/velen's chosen/river crocolisk

I consider this a tough pick. The 3x lightspawn and general midrange stuff make me kinda want Velen's chosen. It would be an incredible way to end a game once my opponent blows a bunch of their removal. On the other hand, the dragon is a strong overall card at it's average price of 4.5 mana.

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@Sian, I'd have taken the Jeeves personally. I find playing arcane golem on curve to be a spectacular way to throw a game, though it's good late when mana doesn't really matter. Jeeves works well in a low-cost deck that can play out its hand ahead of the oppnent and mage aggro can be quite strong.

For your second pick, I think it's tough. I'd take the frost bolt because I always lean towards cheaper cards and it's more flexible, but the berserker is really excellent in mage. Don't pick just on my advice.

Lethologica
2015-07-24, 06:14 PM
2nd: Frost Bolt/Arcane Explosion/Gurubashi Berserker

Frost Bolt?
Frost Bolt. One of the best cards in the game.


23rd pick: volcanic drak/velen's chosen/river crocolisk
Both Velen's and Drake would benefit from a lower curve, but you have enough 4-5 drops already. To me the choice is actually between Velen's and Crocolisk. I think Velen's is better, though.

Anarion
2015-07-24, 06:28 PM
Velen's it is then.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
19th pick: holy nova/amani berserker/silvermoon guardian
20th pick: nerubian egg/master sword smith/upgraded repair bot
21st pick: bloodsail raider/mad bomber/dragonkin sorcerer
22nd pick: silvermoon guardian/lightspawn/acolyte of pain
23rd pick: volcanic drak/velen's chosen/river crocolisk
24th pick: Shadow word: pain/Spectral knight/mind blast

It's too bad these come together. I love spectral knight, but I've got plenty of 5 drops already so imagine sw:pain is the way to go here.

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Lethologica
2015-07-24, 07:28 PM
24th pick: Shadow word: pain/Spectral knight/mind blast
yay shadow words

Anarion
2015-07-24, 08:14 PM
Yay shadow words!

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
19th pick: holy nova/amani berserker/silvermoon guardian
20th pick: nerubian egg/master sword smith/upgraded repair bot
21st pick: bloodsail raider/mad bomber/dragonkin sorcerer
22nd pick: silvermoon guardian/lightspawn/acolyte of pain
23rd pick: volcanic drak/velen's chosen/river crocolisk
24th pick: Shadow word: pain/Spectral knight/mind blast
25th pick: earthen ring farseer/lost tallstrider/silvermoon guardian


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Lethologica
2015-07-24, 08:42 PM
Oh, hey, a good 3-drop. (And two average 4-drops.)

MacGiolla
2015-07-24, 08:59 PM
We went from one to four separate drafts pretty quickly. I get the feeling that people aren't commenting as much due to the fact that this thread got so crowded.

GAAD
2015-07-24, 09:46 PM
As the Guy in Charge (ish), I have to say no more drafts please! I think we can manage three at a time, but once this fourth is done let's drop it down to three (or, preferably, two.)

Gandariel
2015-07-24, 09:53 PM
I still vote for having only one draft active at a time.

And for the love of god, fix the thread title :P

"Pay attention, class!"

Anarion
2015-07-24, 11:39 PM
There are 3 going on now, I think? Jormengand finished. I don't think it's too hard to follow, but it does seem like people aren't discussing picks much. Nearly done with mine.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
19th pick: holy nova/amani berserker/silvermoon guardian
20th pick: nerubian egg/master sword smith/upgraded repair bot
21st pick: bloodsail raider/mad bomber/dragonkin sorcerer
22nd pick: silvermoon guardian/lightspawn/acolyte of pain
23rd pick: volcanic drak/velen's chosen/river crocolisk
24th pick: Shadow word: pain/Spectral knight/mind blast
25th pick: earthen ring farseer/lost tallstrider/silvermoon guardian
26th pick: ogre magi/war golem/undertaker

This one is almost dumb enough for me to autopick, but who knows, maybe someone will say I need a war golem.

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Zevox
2015-07-25, 12:02 AM
26th pick: ogre magi/war golem/undertaker

This one is almost dumb enough for me to autopick, but who knows, maybe someone will say I need a war golem.
:smallconfused: What do you think is the auto-pick there if not the War Golem? Ogre Magi? When you've already got a good number of 4s, but have almost no late game? Surely not Undertaker, who wasn't even good in arena pre-nerf.

Anyway, yeah, War Golem here. Heck, even if your curve wasn't pushing you towards it, it would probably be the better card. It's sub-par beef, but still beef, and not one of the ones that is below par due to lacking health. It's certainly better than what is usually a vanilla 4/4 for 4.

Lethologica
2015-07-25, 12:40 AM
Agreed--War Golem is at least big.

thirsting
2015-07-25, 01:13 AM
Outside consultant helped break the tie between Faerie Dragon and Savage Roar. Paraphrased quote: "Doggy has big teeth!". I agree with his assessment.

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#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin*
#2: Gnomeregan Infantry / Voodoo Doctor / Poison Seeds*
#3: Acolyte of Pain / Silvermoon Guardian / Stranglethorn Tiger*
#4: Scarlet Crusader* / Frostwolf Grunt / Anodized Robo Cub
#5: Explosive Sheep* / Wild Growth / Grimscale Oracle
#6: Healing Touch / Mechanical Yeti* / Mad Scientist
#7: Wild Growth / Stormwind Champion* / Gilblin Stalker
#8: War Golem / Harvest Golem* / Dread Corsair
#9: Moonfire / Druid of the Claw* / Gnomish Inventor
#10: Lil' Exorcist* / Gnomish Experimenter / Secretkeeper
#11: Savage Roar* / Faerie Dragon / Mogu'shan Warden
#12: Keeper of the Grove / Wailing Soul / Volcanic Lumberer

Anarion
2015-07-25, 01:41 AM
One war golem later.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
19th pick: holy nova/amani berserker/silvermoon guardian
20th pick: nerubian egg/master sword smith/upgraded repair bot
21st pick: bloodsail raider/mad bomber/dragonkin sorcerer
22nd pick: silvermoon guardian/lightspawn/acolyte of pain
23rd pick: volcanic drak/velen's chosen/river crocolisk
24th pick: Shadow word: pain/Spectral knight/mind blast
25th pick: earthen ring farseer/lost tallstrider/silvermoon guardian
26th pick: ogre magi/war golem/undertaker
27th pick: Gadgetzan Auctioneer/Wailing Soul/Coldlight Seer


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Zevox
2015-07-25, 02:06 AM
Hm. On the one hand, you have seven spells; on the other, three of them can't be played on the same turn as auctioneer, and only one of them is low enough cost that you can play it and Auctioneer on the same turn prior to turn 9. On the somehow third hand, the competition is Wailing Soul, in a deck with three Lightspawn, among a more usual assortment of things you don't want to silence.

Yeah, we're not happy, but I think it's Auctioneer here. Maybe if you had fewer spells Wailing Soul would be the pick despite all the reasons not to, but there is a chance of getting draw out of the Auctioneer with this deck, and put that together with how poorly Wailing Soul goes with some of the other cards you've drafted and I think Auctioneer does end up with the edge.

Sian
2015-07-25, 02:32 AM
Class: Mage/Priest/Druid

1st: Jeeves/Angry Chicken/Arcane Golem
2nd: Frost Bolt/Arcane Explosion/Gurubashi Berserker
3rd: Mechwarper/Stonetusk Boar/Drakonid Crusher

Drakonid Crusher is properly best as its a great heavy

thirsting
2015-07-25, 03:12 AM
Gadgetzan Auctioneer for potential draws and shadow word immunity.

I'd take Mechwarper, if only to soak the inevitable Frostbolts, Darkbombs and such...

Lethologica
2015-07-25, 03:15 AM
27th pick: Gadgetzan Auctioneer/Wailing Soul/Coldlight Seer
Auctioneer.


3rd: Mechwarper/Stonetusk Boar/Drakonid Crusher

Crusher.

Anarion
2015-07-25, 03:16 AM
Going once, going twice, sold to auctioneer.

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
19th pick: holy nova/amani berserker/silvermoon guardian
20th pick: nerubian egg/master sword smith/upgraded repair bot
21st pick: bloodsail raider/mad bomber/dragonkin sorcerer
22nd pick: silvermoon guardian/lightspawn/acolyte of pain
23rd pick: volcanic drak/velen's chosen/river crocolisk
24th pick: Shadow word: pain/Spectral knight/mind blast
25th pick: earthen ring farseer/lost tallstrider/silvermoon guardian
26th pick: ogre magi/war golem/undertaker
27th pick: Gadgetzan Auctioneer/Wailing Soul/Coldlight Seer
28th pick: blackwing technician/mechanical yeti/voodoo doctor

I imagine the yeti gets the nod here given the minor mech subtheme and its generally awesome stats, even though we're really crowding the 4 slot.

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Lethologica
2015-07-25, 03:18 AM
Yeti > Technician.

Anarion
2015-07-25, 03:28 AM
And yeti got so close

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
19th pick: holy nova/amani berserker/silvermoon guardian
20th pick: nerubian egg/master sword smith/upgraded repair bot
21st pick: bloodsail raider/mad bomber/dragonkin sorcerer
22nd pick: silvermoon guardian/lightspawn/acolyte of pain
23rd pick: volcanic drak/velen's chosen/river crocolisk
24th pick: Shadow word: pain/Spectral knight/mind blast
25th pick: earthen ring farseer/lost tallstrider/silvermoon guardian
26th pick: ogre magi/war golem/undertaker
27th pick: Gadgetzan Auctioneer/Wailing Soul/Coldlight Seer
28th pick: blackwing technician/mechanical yeti/voodoo doctor
29th pick: puddlestomper/argent squire/acidic swamp ooze

hmm.

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Lethologica
2015-07-25, 03:32 AM
Ooze is a bro.

Sian
2015-07-25, 03:32 AM
One for each of Mechwarper and Drakonid Crusher ... any other opinions?

Anarion
2015-07-25, 10:36 AM
ooooooze

Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
19th pick: holy nova/amani berserker/silvermoon guardian
20th pick: nerubian egg/master sword smith/upgraded repair bot
21st pick: bloodsail raider/mad bomber/dragonkin sorcerer
22nd pick: silvermoon guardian/lightspawn/acolyte of pain
23rd pick: volcanic drak/velen's chosen/river crocolisk
24th pick: Shadow word: pain/Spectral knight/mind blast
25th pick: earthen ring farseer/lost tallstrider/silvermoon guardian
26th pick: ogre magi/war golem/undertaker
27th pick: Gadgetzan Auctioneer/Wailing Soul/Coldlight Seer
28th pick: blackwing technician/mechanical yeti/voodoo doctor
29th pick: puddlestomper/argent squire/acidic swamp ooze
30th pick: sludge belcher/upgraded repair bot/alarm-o-bot

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One for each of Mechwarper and Drakonid Crusher ... any other opinions?

I vote for the mech warper. It leads to some explosive starts, often pulls out good removal from the opponent even if you actually have nothing, and two drops now make it okay to take good expensive cards later.

thirsting
2015-07-25, 10:52 AM
*Buuuurrbb* "Excuse me" ...Belcher is at the very least a moderately sized speed bump, protecting your face or other minions really well.

Sian
2015-07-25, 12:00 PM
Class: Mage/Priest/Druid

1st: Jeeves/Angry Chicken/Arcane Golem
2nd: Frost Bolt/Arcane Explosion/Gurubashi Berserker
3rd: Mechwarper/Stonetusk Boar/Drakonid Crusher
4th: Flamestrike/Archmage/Mechanical Yeti

Lethologica
2015-07-25, 12:27 PM
30th pick: sludge belcher/upgraded repair bot/alarm-o-bot
Sludge Belcher offers all kinds of insurance.


4th: Flamestrike/Archmage/Mechanical Yeti
flaaaaaaaaaaaamestriiiiiiiiiiiiiike

Sian
2015-07-25, 01:01 PM
Class: Mage/Priest/Druid

1st: Jeeves/Angry Chicken/Arcane Golem
2nd: Frost Bolt/Arcane Explosion/Gurubashi Berserker
3rd: Mechwarper/Stonetusk Boar/Drakonid Crusher
4th: Flamestrike/Archmage/Mechanical Yeti
5th: Argent Squire/Flesheating Ghoul/Water Elemental


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GolemsVoice
2015-07-25, 01:12 PM
Water Elemental of course!

Sian
2015-07-25, 01:13 PM
Class: Mage/Priest/Druid

1st: Jeeves/Angry Chicken/Arcane Golem
2nd: Frost Bolt/Arcane Explosion/Gurubashi Berserker
3rd: Mechwarper/Stonetusk Boar/Drakonid Crusher
4th: Flamestrike/Archmage/Mechanical Yeti
5th: Argent Squire/Flesheating Ghoul/Water Elemental
6th: Zombie Chow/Polymorph/Arcane Intellect


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Anarion
2015-07-25, 01:36 PM
Paladin/Hunter/Priest

1st pick: shadow madness/defender of Argus*/Mana Wraith
2nd pick: power word: shield/holy smite/holy nova
3rd pick: dark cultist/scarlet crusader/divine spirit
4th pick: faerie dragon/cogmaster/thrallmar farseer
5th pick: Novice engineer/divine spirit*/inner fire
6th pick: Northshire cleric/sen'jin shieldmasta/Ancient Brewmaster
7th pick: puddlestomper/frostwolf warlord/Dalaran Mage
8th pick: lightspawn/stoneskin gargoyle/raging worgen
9th pick: piloted shredder/bloodfen raptor/wisp
10th pick: abomination/auchenai soulpriest/pint-sized summoner
11th pick: frostwolf warlord/gilbin stalker/spider tank
12th pick: flesheating ghoul/stranglethorn tiger/cogmaster
13th pick: Stoneskin gargoyle/lord of the arena/bloodfen raptor
14th pick: Frostwolf warlord/mind control/bloodfen raptor
15th pick: river crocolisk/lightspawn/ship's cannon
16th pick: war golem/scarlet crusader/temple enforcer
17th pick: nerub'ar weblord/frost elemental/holy smite
18th pick: Grim patron/questing adventurer/goblin sapper
19th pick: holy nova/amani berserker/silvermoon guardian
20th pick: nerubian egg/master sword smith/upgraded repair bot
21st pick: bloodsail raider/mad bomber/dragonkin sorcerer
22nd pick: silvermoon guardian/lightspawn/acolyte of pain
23rd pick: volcanic drak/velen's chosen/river crocolisk
24th pick: Shadow word: pain/Spectral knight/mind blast
25th pick: earthen ring farseer/lost tallstrider/silvermoon guardian
26th pick: ogre magi/war golem/undertaker
27th pick: Gadgetzan Auctioneer/Wailing Soul/Coldlight Seer
28th pick: blackwing technician/mechanical yeti/voodoo doctor
29th pick: puddlestomper/argent squire/acidic swamp ooze
30th pick: sludge belcher/upgraded repair bot/alarm-o-bot

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And we're done. We ended up with a good middle of the road curve and done efficient creatures, but a dearth of spells that swing the board or ways to end a game.

Looking back, I was definitely wrong to take Sen'jin over the Northshire cleric, and I wish I'd taken that pw:s at the start, though there was no way to know we'd see another holy nova. As it stands, I expect to win some games by curving out, but also come up short against some really high power stuff or a really aggressive curve.

Lethologica
2015-07-25, 01:36 PM
6th: Zombie Chow/Polymorph/Arcane Intellect
wao so many good cards

Polymorph is something you're glad to see late, Zombie Chow is something you're glad to see early. My vote is for Polymorph, because having at least one Polymorph is super good, but get a second opinion.

Anarion
2015-07-25, 02:01 PM
Oh, being done with my draft I can now advise. I'd say polymorph. As a transform effect, polymorph is one of the best removal spells in the game. It bypasses buffs, divine shield, special effects, and kills anything. As good as zombie chow is for tempo, I think the polymorph is better.

Sian
2015-07-25, 02:37 PM
Class: Mage/Priest/Druid

1st: Jeeves/Angry Chicken/Arcane Golem
2nd: Frost Bolt/Arcane Explosion/Gurubashi Berserker
3rd: Mechwarper/Stonetusk Boar/Drakonid Crusher
4th: Flamestrike/Archmage/Mechanical Yeti
5th: Argent Squire/Flesheating Ghoul/Water Elemental
6th: Zombie Chow/Polymorph/Arcane Intellect
7th: Loot Hoarder/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Arcane Missiles


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Mind if i say need?

Jormengand
2015-07-25, 03:47 PM
I... would actually go with arc missiles. They aren't good removal on their own, but can definitely help you bring down something tough. Like, a turn 8 flamestrike+arc missiles will potentially allow you to kill a bunch of 5-toughness minions.

GAAD
2015-07-25, 04:16 PM
Nah. Roll need; it's good enough for Constructed.

The_Jackal
2015-07-25, 04:23 PM
I... would actually go with arc missiles. They aren't good removal on their own, but can definitely help you bring down something tough. Like, a turn 8 flamestrike+arc missiles will potentially allow you to kill a bunch of 5-toughness minions.

Preferring reliable over random, and minions over spells, I'd advise loot hoarder.

Jormengand
2015-07-25, 04:28 PM
Preferring reliable over random, and minions over spells, I'd advise loot hoarder.

Card draw is far more random than anything else, given that it could be picking upwards of 20 options rather than a maximum of 8.

Anarion
2015-07-25, 04:30 PM
Preferring reliable over random, and minions over spells, I'd advise loot hoarder.

I like the missiles a bit more myself. They combo well with the hero power early and really benefit from stray spell damage minions. Loot hoarder can be good, but a lot of classes just kill it at no cost. Looks like we may need more votes.

Sian
2015-07-25, 05:30 PM
two for Loot Hoarder, two for Arcane Missiles ... in lack of argeement between the crowd, i'll break the vote by saying that Loot Hoarder is my initial guess and go with that.

Class: Mage/Priest/Druid

1st: Jeeves/Angry Chicken/Arcane Golem
2nd: Frost Bolt/Arcane Explosion/Gurubashi Berserker
3rd: Mechwarper/Stonetusk Boar/Drakonid Crusher
4th: Flamestrike/Archmage/Mechanical Yeti
5th: Argent Squire/Flesheating Ghoul/Water Elemental
6th: Zombie Chow/Polymorph/Arcane Intellect
7th: Loot Hoarder/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Arcane Missiles
8th: Nerub'ar Weblord/Oasis Snapjaw/Jungle Panther


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Panther might be the best one of the lot

Jormengand
2015-07-25, 05:55 PM
Mm, Panther tends to trade up into stuff and there is little AoE in the arena.

Gandariel
2015-07-25, 06:18 PM
Panther is the pick here, Loot hoarder was easily the pick, and Zombie Chow was the pick.

Arcane missiles is really bad, unreliable, and completely useless lategame. Loot Hoarder is amazing.
Chow over Polymorph is less pronounced, but still the correct pick. Polymorph is good, but not *great*. You're happy to pick up one if it comes by, but it's definitely not necessary or amazing.
Chow is the best neutral 1-drop, hands down. If i could, i'd take 2-3 of those in every arena deck.

thirsting
2015-07-25, 06:24 PM
*cough* And then some white text to bypass ten character minimum



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#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin*
#2: Gnomeregan Infantry / Voodoo Doctor / Poison Seeds*
#3: Acolyte of Pain / Silvermoon Guardian / Stranglethorn Tiger*
#4: Scarlet Crusader* / Frostwolf Grunt / Anodized Robo Cub
#5: Explosive Sheep* / Wild Growth / Grimscale Oracle
#6: Healing Touch / Mechanical Yeti* / Mad Scientist
#7: Wild Growth / Stormwind Champion* / Gilblin Stalker
#8: War Golem / Harvest Golem* / Dread Corsair
#9: Moonfire / Druid of the Claw* / Gnomish Inventor
#10: Lil' Exorcist* / Gnomish Experimenter / Secretkeeper
#11: Savage Roar* / Faerie Dragon / Mogu'shan Warden
#12: Keeper of the Grove / Wailing Soul / Volcanic Lumberer

Gandariel
2015-07-25, 06:31 PM
Oh, easy Keeper :)
And i would have taken Faerie Dragon last pick

Sian
2015-07-25, 06:34 PM
Class: Mage/Priest/Druid

1st: Jeeves/Angry Chicken/Arcane Golem
2nd: Frost Bolt/Arcane Explosion/Gurubashi Berserker
3rd: Mechwarper/Stonetusk Boar/Drakonid Crusher
4th: Flamestrike/Archmage/Mechanical Yeti
5th: Argent Squire/Flesheating Ghoul/Water Elemental
6th: Zombie Chow/Polymorph/Arcane Intellect
7th: Loot Hoarder/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Arcane Missiles
8th: Nerub'ar Weblord/Oasis Snapjaw/Jungle Panther
9th: Flying Machine/Arcane Missiles/Murluc Tidehunter


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Ugh ... I'd pass if i could

Lethologica
2015-07-25, 06:36 PM
Siam: Arcane Missiles suck slightly less than your other options.
thirsting: Keeper is an all-around excellent card.

Landis963
2015-07-25, 06:37 PM
Class: Mage/Priest/Druid

1st: Jeeves/Angry Chicken/Arcane Golem
2nd: Frost Bolt/Arcane Explosion/Gurubashi Berserker
3rd: Mechwarper/Stonetusk Boar/Drakonid Crusher
4th: Flamestrike/Archmage/Mechanical Yeti
5th: Argent Squire/Flesheating Ghoul/Water Elemental
6th: Zombie Chow/Polymorph/Arcane Intellect
7th: Loot Hoarder/Stoneskin Gargoyle/Arcane Missiles
8th: Nerub'ar Weblord/Oasis Snapjaw/Jungle Panther
9th: Flying Machine/Arcane Missiles/Murluc Tidehunter


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Ugh ... I'd pass if i could

Looks like now's your chance for an arc missiles.

Jormengand
2015-07-25, 06:42 PM
The arcane missiles are sad that you didn't pick them when you could.

thirsting
2015-07-25, 06:46 PM
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#1: Secret Keeper / Madder Bomber / Ravenholdt Assassin*
#2: Gnomeregan Infantry / Voodoo Doctor / Poison Seeds*
#3: Acolyte of Pain / Silvermoon Guardian / Stranglethorn Tiger*
#4: Scarlet Crusader* / Frostwolf Grunt / Anodized Robo Cub
#5: Explosive Sheep* / Wild Growth / Grimscale Oracle
#6: Healing Touch / Mechanical Yeti* / Mad Scientist
#7: Wild Growth / Stormwind Champion* / Gilblin Stalker
#8: War Golem / Harvest Golem* / Dread Corsair
#9: Moonfire / Druid of the Claw* / Gnomish Inventor
#10: Lil' Exorcist* / Gnomish Experimenter / Secretkeeper
#11: Savage Roar* / Faerie Dragon / Mogu'shan Warden
#12: Keeper of the Grove* / Wailing Soul / Volcanic Lumberer
#13: Druid of the Fang / Cult Master / Ogre Brute

Lethologica
2015-07-25, 06:58 PM
Ogre Brute is kind of hilarious. And probably the best card in the pack.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-25, 08:36 PM
Cult Master is by far the best card out of those 3.
Pick 10, should have gone with Faerie Dragon. Savage Roar is a pretty bad card and the curve would have dictated you take the 2 drop anyways even disregarding the fact that Faerie Dragon is a much better card.

Zevox
2015-07-25, 09:50 PM
Panther is the pick here, Loot hoarder was easily the pick, and Zombie Chow was the pick.

Arcane missiles is really bad, unreliable, and completely useless lategame. Loot Hoarder is amazing.
Chow over Polymorph is less pronounced, but still the correct pick. Polymorph is good, but not *great*. You're happy to pick up one if it comes by, but it's definitely not necessary or amazing.
Chow is the best neutral 1-drop, hands down. If i could, i'd take 2-3 of those in every arena deck.
Agreed. Chow versus Polymorph is pretty close, but I find myself leaning towards Chow. Turn 1 Chow is just that strong.

And yeah, Arcane Missiles versus Loot Hoarder is not even a question. It's a bad card versus a good one, the good one wins. Maybe if you had a deck full of cards that do extra things when you cast spells, like Flamewaker, Teacher, or Gadgetzan, you might be in a position where you should seriously consider the Missiles, but not outside of that unlikely scenario.

The_Jackal
2015-07-25, 10:27 PM
Card draw is far more random than anything else, given that it could be picking upwards of 20 options rather than a maximum of 8.

Maybe, but you'll always get either a card or draw a silence, where arcane missiles can very frequently accomplish nothing.

The_Jackal
2015-07-25, 10:30 PM
And yeah, Arcane Missiles versus Loot Hoarder is not even a question. It's a bad card versus a good one, the good one wins. Maybe if you had a deck full of cards that do extra things when you cast spells, like Flamewaker, Teacher, or Gadgetzan, you might be in a position where you should seriously consider the Missiles, but not outside of that unlikely scenario.

Most arena tier lists rate them equally. I don't think it's insane to pick missiles, but I do personally prefer loot, who's much better when you're in top deck times.

Zevox
2015-07-26, 01:21 AM
Most arena tier lists rate them equally.
Must be rather poor arena tier lists, then. They're not even close to equal. One is highly unreliable even in its typical best-case scenario (cast it against an opponent's board of only a 3/2, for a 50/50 chance to have it trade 1-for-1 and gain a little tempo), one has a typical worst-case scenario of cantriping and costing the opponent 2 mana of tempo to remove.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-26, 01:42 AM
Agreed. Chow versus Polymorph is pretty close, but I find myself leaning towards Chow. Turn 1 Chow is just that strong.

While Chow is good and it is pretty close choice, I'd never pick Chow over Polymorph unless I already have a Polymorph and the curve would benefit significantly from an early drop.

Agreed with Zevoc on Hoarder v Missile. All the relatively reliable tier lists have Loot Hoarder at least a tier above Missile.