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Fax Celestis
2015-07-17, 04:07 PM
Welcome to the Playground's Eleventth(!) TWELFTH(!!) thirteenth iteration thread for the popular mobile app game, Puzzle & Dragons!
(Previous thread is here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?413764-Puzzle-and-Dragons-12-Extreme-Puzzle-Rush-(Legend-)).)

Here we gather to discuss, praise, complain about, and generally just natter on for this fun and addictive app game.

The first step is to point all new players to one of the beginners' guides.

The Beginner's Guide on the padWiki (http://padwiki.net/wiki/New_Players%27_Guide") is one; I operate there, so give me a heads up if you're finding errors! It can lag behind the news at times, but it's nice, friendly, honest, and clear.
There is also the very comprehensive Padherder New Player Guide], which is usually more current. (http://guide.padherder.com/New_Player_Guide)

We also have a linked guide to using row enhancement awoken skills! (http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=21741)

What is Puzzle & Dragons?

A Free-to-Play match-three game with surprising depth! The puzzle occupies the lower half of the screen, and the combinations you form power your team on the upper half of the screen in battle. Part pokemon, part bejeweled, part M:tG, all crack, this game is easy to learn, difficult to master and very well put together. Unlike many games of this kind, it defies genre by going for both depth and complexity while maintaining ease of pick up.

What, seriously?

Yup! While at it's surface, the game is basically any other puzzle game ever, the math behind damage output, the dungeon design, the team composition component and metagame, and the uniquely free-wheeling capacity of the puzzle make Puzzle and Dragons a stand-out despite it's terrible app graphic. It has surprisingly deep and fulfilling long-term play (at the moment, I've been playing for over 600 days), and new content comes out regularly.

So what do I need to know to get started?


First, the game itself! PAD, P&D or puzzle and dragons should all be sufficient searches to download it. It operates on Android and iOS devices, with mixed results on running it elsewhere.
Second, the beginner's guides will help a lot. You start out with one fast freebie pull on the game's real lure, the Rare Egg Machine, and a good pull here can save you a lot of frustration and also make the game much more fun. It's suggested that after you run the game a bit and get comfortable playing it, you "reroll" by uninstalling and reinstalling the application. Then you run through the tutorial again and do the free pull again, repeating until you snag a keeper (http://guide.padherder.com/Reroll_Tier_List). This is not half as bad as it sounds; it's pretty brainless, and goes by pretty quickly. If you can time your re-rolling to line up with a biweekly Godfest, you can save yourself even more frustration!
Third, friends. Good friends with compatible Leader skills are critical. When you enter a dungeon, you can bring a friend's leader with you as a member of your team; their leader skill operates alongside your own. We have a lot of great, experienced players here, with a lot of solid leaders. We can carry you when your own leader can't. Managing your leader and picking the right friend's leader is a critical part of the metagame. The GitP list is at the bottom of this thread; feel free to send any of us requests. If you have something like "@GitP" in your username, we'll know you're from this forum, and will accept your friend requests more readily!
Fourth, be stingy with stones! Magic stones are the in-app-purchase (IAP) resource, and while you get them for free pretty quickly early on, and even more on a regular basis, you'll regret being too free with their use early on. The four rules of magic stones are (1) Never pull the gold dragon Rare Egg Machine outside of a godfest; (2) You should have two monster boxes for every rank you have, and spending stones to Increase Capacity is almost never a bad idea; (3) It's generally not worth a stone to continue in a dungeon or refill your stamina until you have at least 100 stamina, and (4) No, really, don't pull the REM outside of a godfest, seriously.


As a closing note, Puzzle & Dragons is an immensely popular game, and there are a ton of fan-run sites for information. Most of them stay fairly up-to-date, so just go with what you prefer.

The PAD Wiki (http://www.padwiki.net) is volunteer-run, and can get out-of-date, but I think it has the friendliest format for finding information. It also has a ton of great guides and advice.
PuzzleDragonX (http://www.puzzledragonx.com) is generally the best-updated site out there, with the most current news and most complete data. It's the community's go-to resource for data, but doesn't have much in the way of advice.
PADHerder (https://www.padherder.com/) is a tool to track and manage your monster box, with some neat automated ways to update. It also has some good information pages.
PADGuide (Android (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dnt7.padguide&hl=en) / iPhone (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/padguide-all-about-puzzle/id651949209?mt=8)) is an awesome app which keeps very current with all data and can even alert you to Urgent! dungeons. (HIGHLY recommended; I can't live without it.)
The Puzzle and Dragons Forum (http://www.puzzleanddragonsforum.com/) is dedicated to PAD and has some pretty good (and some very old) guides.
The PAD Global (https://www.facebook.com/groups/PADGlobal/) Facebook group is for talking about PAD stuff on ... well, Facebook. It's a solid way to get more compatible friends, too, but it's not always nice to newbies.


If you want to be updated/added, post your leads (up to two each) that you use for descends and for farming. A PadHerder can be included as well.



User
In-Game ID
Descended! Leads
Farming Leads


Obryn
dwarfSA@PG
357,549,260
http://i57.tinypic.com/osh6b4.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/2012)
http://i58.tinypic.com/23seq2f.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/1954)


Diego Havoc
Diego@GitP
376,879,256
http://i60.tinypic.com/axy8ie.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Flying_General%2C_Lu_Bu)
http://oi62.tinypic.com/2uufa.jpg (pad.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_of_the_Sacred_City,_Athena)


Starwulf (https://www.padherder.com/user/starwulf99/monsters/)
Starwulf
319,762,282
http://i60.tinypic.com/34h7xpi.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Keeper_of_the_Sacred_Texts%2C_Metatron)
http://i60.tinypic.com/34h7xpi.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Keeper_of_the_Sacred_Texts%2C_Metatron)


SiuiS
SiuiS@GitP
307,676,270
http://i60.tinypic.com/34h7xpi.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Keeper_of_the_Sacred_Texts%2C_Metatron)
http://i60.tinypic.com/34h7xpi.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Keeper_of_the_Sacred_Texts%2C_Metatron)


Jasmine (https://www.padherder.com/user/Jasmine/monsters/)
Jasmine
301,790,222
http://i61.tinypic.com/157budc.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Blazing_Deity_Falcon%2C_Horus)http://i59.tinypic.com/2uyhwcx.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Kirin_of_the_Sacred_Gleam%2C_Sakuya)

http://i60.tinypic.com/o7m81c.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Goemon%2C_the_Thief)http://oi62.tinypic.com/2uufa.jpg (pad.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_of_the_Sacred_City,_Athena)


Academia (https://www.padherder.com/user/Academia/monsters/)
Aca@GitP
350,076,269
http://i59.tinypic.com/2uyhwcx.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Kirin_of_the_Sacred_Gleam%2C_Sakuya)http://i59.tinypic.com/14v7i1h.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Norn_of_the_Present%2C_Verdandi)
http://i61.tinypic.com/2v33fvr.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Marvelous_Red_Dragon_Caller%2C_Sonia)http://i60.tinypic.com/33a5s07.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Goddess_of_the_Bleak_Night%2C_Pandora)


Aramul
Aram@GitP
314,795,270
http://i57.tinypic.com/9u4y0y.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Flowers%2C_Da_Qiao_%26_Xiao_Qiao)
http://i57.tinypic.com/9u4y0y.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Flowers%2C_Da_Qiao_%26_Xiao_Qiao)


Leviticus (https://www.padherder.com/user/Levictus/monsters/)
Levi@GitP
367,459,299
http://i61.tinypic.com/2v33fvr.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Marvelous_Red_Dragon_Caller%2C_Sonia)
http://oi62.tinypic.com/2uufa.jpg (pad.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_of_the_Sacred_City,_Athena)


Erloas (https://www.padherder.com/user/erloas/monsters/)
ErloasGitP
325,699,229

LoraesGitP
395,991,230
http://i61.tinypic.com/157budc.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Blazing_Deity_Falcon%2C_Horus)
http://i61.tinypic.com/2v33fvr.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Marvelous_Red_Dragon_Caller%2C_Sonia)http://oi62.tinypic.com/2uufa.jpg (pad.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_of_the_Sacred_City,_Athena)


Kauai (https://www.padherder.com/user/kauai/monsters/)
Kauai@gitp
364,995,253
http://i61.tinypic.com/2v33fvr.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Marvelous_Red_Dragon_Caller%2C_Sonia)
http://oi62.tinypic.com/2uufa.jpg (pad.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_of_the_Sacred_City,_Athena)


Tyckspoon
Tyck@GitP
305,397,237
http://i61.tinypic.com/2v33fvr.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Marvelous_Red_Dragon_Caller%2C_Sonia)
http://i61.tinypic.com/2v33fvr.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Marvelous_Red_Dragon_Caller%2C_Sonia)


Blade7
Blade@GitP
387,372,268
http://i61.tinypic.com/2v33fvr.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Marvelous_Red_Dragon_Caller%2C_Sonia)
http://i61.tinypic.com/2v33fvr.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Marvelous_Red_Dragon_Caller%2C_Sonia)


Klaatu B. Nikto
KBN@GitP
336,576,284
http://i59.tinypic.com/jp9b45.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Banishing_Claw_Byakko%2C_Haku)
http://i59.tinypic.com/jp9b45.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Banishing_Claw_Byakko%2C_Haku)


137ben
Snes4@GitP
336,616,397
http://i57.tinypic.com/9u4y0y.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Flowers%2C_Da_Qiao_%26_Xiao_Qiao)
http://i57.tinypic.com/9u4y0y.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Flowers%2C_Da_Qiao_%26_Xiao_Qiao)


Otravyat (https://www.padherder.com/user/Otravyat/monsters/)
Otra@GitP
329,820,344
http://i60.tinypic.com/2dh7fp4.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Wardens%2C_Umisachi%26Yamasachi)
http://oi62.tinypic.com/2uufa.jpg (pad.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_of_the_Sacred_City,_Athena)

Fax Celestis (https://www.padherder.com/user/faxcelestis/monsters/)
Fax@GitP
372,092,294
http://i.imgur.com/I36ixVN.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Awoken Bastet)
http://i.imgur.com/y12uJf0.png (http://padwiki.net/wiki/Chaotic_Flying_General,_Lu_Bu)


Soepvork (https://www.padherder.com/user/soepvork/monsters/)
Soepv@GitP
333,581,245
http://i61.tinypic.com/157budc.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Blazing_Deity_Falcon%2C_Horus)
http://i60.tinypic.com/axy8ie.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Flying_General%2C_Lu_Bu)http://i57.tinypic.com/9u4y0y.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Flowers%2C_Da_Qiao_%26_Xiao_Qiao)


Sallera (https://www.padherder.com/user/Sallera/monsters/)
Sallera
307,636,315

Kiminosei (https://www.padherder.com/user/Kiminosei/monsters/)
373,137,360
http://i60.tinypic.com/xc3aev.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/1747)
http://i57.tinypic.com/osh6b4.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/2012)
http://i61.tinypic.com/2uprazt.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/1956)
http://i60.tinypic.com/2dh7fp4.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Wardens%2C_Umisachi%26Yamasachi)


Quietus (https://www.padherder.com/user/Quietus/monsters/)
Quietus
392,538,393
http://i60.tinypic.com/xc3aev.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/1747)
http://i57.tinypic.com/289vrj9.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Genius_Sleeping_Dragon%2C_Zhuge_Liang)
http://i60.tinypic.com/axy8ie.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Flying_General%2C_Lu_Bu)
http://i60.tinypic.com/e715e1.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/2006)


Baka Nikujaga
Baka
346,216,306
http://i62.tinypic.com/35k3ogg.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Devoted_Miko_Goddess%2C_Kushinadahime)
http://i62.tinypic.com/35k3ogg.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Devoted_Miko_Goddess%2C_Kushinadahime)


Flare'90
Flare@Gitp
325,249,325
http://i61.tinypic.com/2v33fvr.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Marvelous_Red_Dragon_Caller%2C_Sonia)
http://i61.tinypic.com/2v33fvr.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Marvelous_Red_Dragon_Caller%2C_Sonia)

Anarion (http://www.padherder.com/user/Anarion/monsters/)
Anar@gitp
365,764,335
http://i.imgur.com/i1qHxqx.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Awoken_Shiva)
http://i.imgur.com/HTrq2Wu.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Norn_of_the_Past,_Urd)

firedaemon33
Firedaemon
380,663,332
http://i60.tinypic.com/34h7xpi.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Keeper_of_the_Sacred_Texts%2C_Metatron)
http://i60.tinypic.com/34h7xpi.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Keeper_of_the_Sacred_Texts%2C_Metatron)

Meta
iNuzzle@/r
388,412,339
http://i59.tinypic.com/14v7i1h.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Norn_of_the_Present%2C_Verdandi)
http://i59.tinypic.com/14v7i1h.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Norn_of_the_Present%2C_Verdandi)


Fleeing Coward
FC@GitP
379,570,319
http://i59.tinypic.com/mmc2zq.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/2011)
http://i59.tinypic.com/14v7i1h.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Norn_of_the_Present%2C_Verdandi)











Credits to everyone who's ever contributed to the OP. :smallbiggrin:

Jurai
2015-07-17, 04:15 PM
Wow... I mean, we're no Ponythread, but if this keeps up, things are going to get hectic.

Otravyat
2015-07-17, 04:44 PM
I'm curious how the cao cao skill ups in the previous thread was quoted to me....

Anarion
2015-07-17, 04:51 PM
I'm curious how the cao cao skill ups in the previous thread was quoted to me....

I was going to reply to something else I think and then deleted and cut off the wrong start quote.

Sallera
2015-07-17, 05:07 PM
New thread, updated friend list entry.


Sallera (https://www.padherder.com/user/Sallera/monsters/)
Sallera
307,636,315

Kiminosei (https://www.padherder.com/user/Kiminosei/monsters/)
373,137,360
http://i60.tinypic.com/xc3aev.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/1747)
http://i57.tinypic.com/osh6b4.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/2012)
http://i61.tinypic.com/2uprazt.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/1956)
http://i60.tinypic.com/2dh7fp4.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Wardens%2C_Umisachi%26Yamasachi)


Well, between two stones and a rank up, I managed to get a Sparkles skill up. Hope it's enough to let me clear C9. Next Friday should be better, if less efficient, since I ought to have 10-12 stones to burn from 300 day bonus and stuff.

obryn
2015-07-17, 06:14 PM
Awesome thread title. :smallbiggrin:


I don't understand why this is so painful. I fed him 16 Firons and got 2 skill-ups with the 2.5x chance running. The 40 stam is better than the 50 at least though, so there's no risk involved at all.
Man, I feel kinda bad. I've fed 5 and gotten 3 skill-ups so far. :smallredface:

e: Plz update my main lead to Awoken Ra. You can list A.Bastet, A.Horus, Athena, Beelz, and A.Shiva (when we get it)!

Otravyat
2015-07-17, 06:18 PM
New thread, updated friend list entry.


Sallera (https://www.padherder.com/user/Sallera/monsters/)
Sallera
307,636,315

Kiminosei (https://www.padherder.com/user/Kiminosei/monsters/)
373,137,360
http://i60.tinypic.com/xc3aev.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/1747)
http://i57.tinypic.com/osh6b4.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/2012)
http://i61.tinypic.com/2uprazt.png (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/1956)
http://i60.tinypic.com/2dh7fp4.jpg (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Wardens%2C_Umisachi%26Yamasachi)


Well, between two stones and a rank up, I managed to get a Sparkles skill up. Hope it's enough to let me clear C9. Next Friday should be better, if less efficient, since I ought to have 10-12 stones to burn from 300 day bonus and stuff.

By the way, congratulations on downing that rush! That account has been blowing through stuff recently with Sparkles. Really making me feel like I should actually level mine... Or my Horus for AHorus. I just don't want to "abandon" my U&Y....

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-17, 07:40 PM
Might as well add me to the list now.

FC@GitP ID: 379,570,319
Currently using Verdandi for most content but I have ABastet leading Team 1 that I've been feeding whatever plus eggs I get.

Also, right after that complaint about 0 skill ups in a ridiculous number of feeds, I literally got the last 3 skill ups in 3 feeds. The conspiracy theorist in me says that the "data download" for a few files was totally a hotfix for the problem :smalltongue:

Quietus
2015-07-17, 09:52 PM
Credits to everyone who's ever contributed to the OP. :smallbiggrin:

Probably the best way to do that! I imagine that list would get long, eventually.


On the friend list : Would it be worthwhile to sort it by slots 1/2/3? Like, "This monster is always available to friends", "This monster is always available to best friends", and "This monster is the one I use most often"? Regardless, if we could change the Blonia on mine to Ult Goemon, that'd be great. I finally finished hypermaxing my Gronia, and now I've basically officially retired her. :smallfrown:

Otravyat
2015-07-17, 11:15 PM
Anyone have a workable team from my PadHerder for C8?

EDIT: Mostly deleted. Sorry. Ranting and upset for other reasons so being annoying.

EDIT 2: in a similar vein, any suggestions for my best AHorus teams? I'm looking at red valk, AHades, LKali, Yomi. Isn't as color focused as I would like but I don't have many red TPA cards or other colors with the orb changers Id want. ANeptune, AHades, LKali, DMeta could also be nice with neptunes boost hitting everything except Kali. I have been thinking today that it is about time to really focus on a new team for progression that might be able to beat more challenges or rushes.

Edit 3: could also run Hathor to be a bit unusual. Less damage but that absurd health/rcv is nice. I've seen her clear extreme endless corridors and such.

Sallera
2015-07-18, 04:57 AM
By the way, congratulations on downing that rush! That account has been blowing through stuff recently with Sparkles. Really making me feel like I should actually level mine... Or my Horus for AHorus. I just don't want to "abandon" my U&Y....

Heh, thanks. Part of it is just the sub selection I have on the phone account from back when I IAP'd; Indra/Muse/Yomi is a pretty exceptional core for the high end stuff. I had the exact same reaction to Sparkles on the tablet though; wasn't giving up my U&Y. Only thing that finally got me to do so was ARa.


Anyone have a workable team from my PadHerder for C8?

...

Edit 3: could also run Hathor to be a bit unusual. Less damage but that absurd health/rcv is nice. I've seen her clear extreme endless corridors and such.

I don't know what kind of numbers you get out of her, but have you had any luck with DMeta? Something like Angelit heartmake into Persephone, short-CD orb change on Uriel, recharge on Gabriel by letting him heal? I suggest this mostly because every time I've cleared a C8, it's been thanks to unbindable leads.

I know nothing about AHorus, but you know I'm a fan of Hathor. I'd love to see what you could accomplish with her. :smallsmile:

Edit: C9 clear on the tablet. ARa is ridiculous.

Quietus
2015-07-18, 08:54 AM
Anyone have a workable team from my PadHerder for C8?

EDIT: Mostly deleted. Sorry. Ranting and upset for other reasons so being annoying.

EDIT 2: in a similar vein, any suggestions for my best AHorus teams? I'm looking at red valk, AHades, LKali, Yomi. Isn't as color focused as I would like but I don't have many red TPA cards or other colors with the orb changers Id want. ANeptune, AHades, LKali, DMeta could also be nice with neptunes boost hitting everything except Kali. I have been thinking today that it is about time to really focus on a new team for progression that might be able to beat more challenges or rushes.

Edit 3: could also run Hathor to be a bit unusual. Less damage but that absurd health/rcv is nice. I've seen her clear extreme endless corridors and such.

Hathor could be a really good option. Bring LKali, Yomi, and Valk to hit your colors, and that forms a very nice core with three time extends, a few TPA, and a nice collection of actives. If you have chibi Valk, that's even better. You'll probably want something Light with lots of HP - Machine Golem comes to mind, even if he doesn't have much going for him offensively. 20% DR never hurts, and once he gets his ult he's carrying 5k HP; that's over 9k once Hathor has her way with him. Athena is good for offensive purposes, getting that Light enhance in there with decent HP. Metatron as a flex sub for bind removal, of course. Fuma has very nice HP and a handy active. Sakuya, particularly after her ult, if you really want more gravity. Izanagi, if we ever get a Hathor ult that gives her God type. Actually, Athena to hit the Green sub and Fuma for the HP..

Hathor//Kali/Yomi/Athena/Fuma//Hathor would carry 18263 raw HP, with 2003 RCV. Hathor would turn that into 33284 HP and 3385 RCV... probably want to pick up more RCV subs, but wow. That's a lot of leeway. And if you plussed this team it would get much stronger, very quickly.

::Edit:: Actually, maybe swap Athena back to Valk there. You drop to 17,553 HP and go up to 2659 RCV. That's 31,990 HP and 4,846 RCV post-Hathor. Much better balance. Other swap options if you ever get a second LKali would be trade Fuma for her, you end up with similar numbers. But that's more wish list than actually possible right now.

obryn
2015-07-18, 10:28 AM
Productive morning so far. I now am the proud owner of a max skilled DIzanami and a max skilled Cao Cao. :smallbiggrin:

Come on, diza uvo.....

Otravyat
2015-07-18, 11:44 AM
I had the exact same reaction to Sparkles on the tablet though; wasn't giving up my U&Y. Only thing that finally got me to do so was ARa.

I don't know what kind of numbers you get out of her, but have you had any luck with DMeta? Something like Angelit heartmake into Persephone, short-CD orb change on Uriel, recharge on Gabriel by letting him heal? I suggest this mostly because every time I've cleared a C8, it's been thanks to unbindable leads.

DMeta hasn't been any better. I have to take a hit from the twins to get into range, and at that point the various preemptives, etc. will basically kill me. And I don't have a 5 turn changer. Just Persephone Haku and Pandora. And I have to bring Ceres to deal with Lucifer's dark bind. I run out of actives halfway through (F*ing michael)




I know nothing about AHorus, but you know I'm a fan of Hathor. I'd love to see what you could accomplish with her. :smallsmile:


I think this is what I'm leaning towards. I can always throw red exp to Horus regardless.



Hathor could be a really good option. Bring LKali, Yomi, and Valk to hit your colors, and that forms a very nice core with three time extends, a few TPA, and a nice collection of actives. If you have chibi Valk, that's even better. You'll probably want something Light with lots of HP - Machine Golem comes to mind, even if he doesn't have much going for him offensively. 20% DR never hurts, and once he gets his ult he's carrying 5k HP; that's over 9k once Hathor has her way with him. Athena is good for offensive purposes, getting that Light enhance in there with decent HP. Metatron as a flex sub for bind removal, of course. Fuma has very nice HP and a handy active. Sakuya, particularly after her ult, if you really want more gravity. Izanagi, if we ever get a Hathor ult that gives her God type. Actually, Athena to hit the Green sub and Fuma for the HP..

Hathor//Kali/Yomi/Athena/Fuma//Hathor would carry 18263 raw HP, with 2003 RCV. Hathor would turn that into 33284 HP and 3385 RCV... probably want to pick up more RCV subs, but wow. That's a lot of leeway. And if you plussed this team it would get much stronger, very quickly.

::Edit:: Actually, maybe swap Athena back to Valk there. You drop to 17,553 HP and go up to 2659 RCV. That's 31,990 HP and 4,846 RCV post-Hathor. Much better balance. Other swap options if you ever get a second LKali would be trade Fuma for her, you end up with similar numbers. But that's more wish list than actually possible right now.

I do like the core of Hathor// LKali / LValk / Yomi / Flex. With flex being LMeta, Izanagi (Hathor currently only has god type), Kirin, Athena, LZL, etc.) Assuming I put that flex as Kirin, I end up with 33k HP and 6k RCV, with 8k light attack. Burst being 3x gravities, LValk, and CTW. There are a lot of potential options.

My only concern is the number of plus eggs Id need to really excel, and the rather mediocre awakenings on a lot of those subs. The damage wouldnt be anything like what I'm used to, but the massive HP/RCV should make up for that. As I said I can also simultaneously work on an AHorus team for those times when I don't need survivability and just need to burst. Or U&Y could get a split UVO. Durga, Kirin, and Kali have all gotten their leader skills improved a bit via uvos. :smalltongue:

EDIT: Attackeratsu is another good flex option for the bind clearing.But I've been skilling up Ceres instead.

Kauai
2015-07-18, 01:06 PM
C9 clear on the tablet. ARa is ridiculous.

And here I was all proud of myself and about to post that I just used ARa to 0-stone C8. lol Congrats! I guess for me, C8 is a big deal as it's a major departure from Ronia. I used Obryn's build of ARa bookends with 2x DKali/Kushi/LMeta. Sadly my ARa is still base skill, but Kushi is one away from max and everyone else is max skilled. It's so weird seeing everyone but my ARa up on turn 1 (that happens with my Rodin cheese team but not with "real" builds of mine). I failed the first few tries due to poor orb and skill management (and I refused to stone to continue), and finally started using skills a bit more liberally and got the clear.

Oh and about that Rodin cheese team, I was browsing other PAD sites and stumbled on another ridiculous use for a variant of that team. It's a speed-clear team of Friday Mythical of all things. It's uvo Goemon lead with Rodin friend, and 3x Rodin/AHorus subs. All max awoken and all max skilled except for AHorus (not necessary due to low CD on his base skill). So everybody is up on turn 1. Rodin actives on floors 1-3, and on final floor it's Goemon>Horus>swipe for OHKO. Insane. Gonna speed-farm that dungeon now for dubmyths to try and finally max skill FA Luci. Wish I stumbled on that build yesterday to take advantage of the current 2.5x skillup.

Anyway, back to ARa. I'm starting to enjoy the playstyle a bit. Not nearly as fast as Ronia due to more thinking and planning involved, but it's still fun. I definitely need to get more efficient with my moves when doing the combos. As it currently stands I use almost all of the allotted time for each turn, and I don't like needing to rely on those time extend awakenings. I'm sure I'll improve with time. At least I'm finally weening off of Ronia! lol It does sadden me that all of my hypered cards are for her teams tho. I don't want to feed those away, so it's back to the drawing board for plus egging. I'm at +240 on Panda but I think that instead of finishing hypering her I'm going to start plusing either ARa or the Shiva I plan to use for AShiva. Any opinions on which one I should focus on first?

EDIT: I think I might have just asked that question a couple of posts ago. If Jasmine were here she'd scold me. lol I need to go back and reread. I know Obryn posted that link to the AShiva team building guide, which I need to browse through thoroughly again. Still unsure of who to plus first tho.

Anarion
2015-07-18, 01:40 PM
Awesome thread title. :smallbiggrin:


Man, I feel kinda bad. I've fed 5 and gotten 3 skill-ups so far. :smallredface:

e: Plz update my main lead to Awoken Ra. You can list A.Bastet, A.Horus, Athena, Beelz, and A.Shiva (when we get it)!


Productive morning so far. I now am the proud owner of a max skilled DIzanami and a max skilled Cao Cao. :smallbiggrin:

Come on, diza uvo.....

8 more Firons for me today. Cao Cao is now skill level 4. That puts me at 3/24, all fed during 2.5x events. Which I guess isn't wildly out of whack, but frustrating. Given the fact that this 2.5x only lasts for another day, I'm tempted to buy another round of the coin dungeon and stone the hell out of it for the next hour.

Jurai
2015-07-18, 01:41 PM
Finished Challenge Dungeon 2, pulled a Keeper of Light, a red Pengdra I need to evolve and max out and feed to SSB Sai to max him out.

And a Padherder, too (https://www.padherder.com/user/JuraiGitP/monsters/#31,0,31,2047,268435455,0,,0,0,0,eq,0,0,0,0,;defau lt,0).

Otravyat
2015-07-18, 04:07 PM
Did end up taking out C8 this morning, with a lineup of Izanagi, LMeta, DMeta, and U&Y subs. LMeta got me past gabriel. Izanagi took out michael. And DMeta was bind bait for Lucifer.

Also got my Cao Cao max skilled. I used a flampy for the last skill up since I didn't have much else.

Sallera
2015-07-18, 04:17 PM
Oh and about that Rodin cheese team, I was browsing other PAD sites and stumbled on another ridiculous use for a variant of that team. It's a speed-clear team of Friday Mythical of all things. It's uvo Goemon lead with Rodin friend, and 3x Rodin/AHorus subs. All max awoken and all max skilled except for AHorus (not necessary due to low CD on his base skill). So everybody is up on turn 1. Rodin actives on floors 1-3, and on final floor it's Goemon>Horus>swipe for OHKO. Insane. Gonna speed-farm that dungeon now for dubmyths to try and finally max skill FA Luci. Wish I stumbled on that build yesterday to take advantage of the current 2.5x skillup.
Hee. It's not quite as fast, but Kali->Ra->Ra->Kali actives is pretty quick too. (For which I am grateful, 'cause I still need a ton of Angelits.)


Anyway, back to ARa. I'm starting to enjoy the playstyle a bit. Not nearly as fast as Ronia due to more thinking and planning involved, but it's still fun. I definitely need to get more efficient with my moves when doing the combos. As it currently stands I use almost all of the allotted time for each turn, and I don't like needing to rely on those time extend awakenings. I'm sure I'll improve with time. At least I'm finally weening off of Ronia! lol It does sadden me that all of my hypered cards are for her teams tho. I don't want to feed those away, so it's back to the drawing board for plus egging.
Yeah, if I had a spare DQ, I'd have been strongly tempted to feed away her +297 to ARa. As it is, I've at least got +200 on DKali and often my +297 U&Y in there (although he's hardly ideal since I can't make use of his active).


8 more Firons for me today. Cao Cao is now skill level 4. That puts me at 3/24, all fed during 2.5x events. Which I guess isn't wildly out of whack, but frustrating. Given the fact that this 2.5x only lasts for another day, I'm tempted to buy another round of the coin dungeon and stone the hell out of it for the next hour.
Rarely a waste of stones to spend them on skill ups for your main couple teams, I'd say.


Did end up taking out C8 this morning, with a lineup of Izanagi, LMeta, DMeta, and U&Y subs. LMeta got me past gabriel. Izanagi took out michael. And DMeta was bind bait for Lucifer.
Oh, nice! Congrats.

Otravyat
2015-07-18, 08:03 PM
Bought 12 stones today (first IAP in months, I feel bad about it) and ran Tamadra Village enough to fully awaken LKali, Hathor, and Valk (I'd never bothered apparently). Have Tamadra stockpiled for AHorus when I finally get him but that will be a while. I have 6 stones left, slotted in for Super Golds tomorrow. Should bump my baby Sparkles and baby Hathor up to at least usable levels.

Anyone have any Hathor friends on their list that they can toss my way?

obryn
2015-07-18, 08:31 PM
Anyway, back to ARa. I'm starting to enjoy the playstyle a bit. Not nearly as fast as Ronia due to more thinking and planning involved, but it's still fun. I definitely need to get more efficient with my moves when doing the combos. As it currently stands I use almost all of the allotted time for each turn, and I don't like needing to rely on those time extend awakenings. I'm sure I'll improve with time. At least I'm finally weening off of Ronia! lol It does sadden me that all of my hypered cards are for her teams tho. I don't want to feed those away, so it's back to the drawing board for plus egging. I'm at +240 on Panda but I think that instead of finishing hypering her I'm going to start plusing either ARa or the Shiva I plan to use for AShiva. Any opinions on which one I should focus on first?
I personally love running leads like A.Ra, LL Ra, A.Bastet, Kushi, Anubis, etc. because it's a bit more challenging and rewarding. I mean, I can blast through most stuff with Athena, Beelzonia, and LMeta, but it's the challenge that I find awesome. Glad you're having a good time - let me know if I ever need to refresh A.Ra, or just BFF me next time around. :smallwink:

I never thought I'd see the day, but I am now planning to feed my +139 Echidna away to either A.Shiva or A.Kagu. A.Shiva is more likely, to help keep up with the Joneses and get A.Shiva friends, but A.Kagu is maybe even more tempting because he's more versatile as a sub, fun as a lead, and has three prongs instead of 2 to stretch those +atk orbs even further.

Oh, btw, in case you missed it, there's a new Descend coming in Japan with a 7x6 board. A.Ra is very, very pleased with this development. :smallbiggrin:

Also, a new graphic got downloaded that is similar to the +orb markers, but it's a lock instead. Current theory is that some dungeons will end up locking some orbs in place.

obryn
2015-07-18, 08:33 PM
8 more Firons for me today. Cao Cao is now skill level 4. That puts me at 3/24, all fed during 2.5x events. Which I guess isn't wildly out of whack, but frustrating. Given the fact that this 2.5x only lasts for another day, I'm tempted to buy another round of the coin dungeon and stone the hell out of it for the next hour.
Yeah, I feel really bad. I think I fed maybe 12 firons to Cao Cao for the max skill. :smallredface: I got pretty lucky.

I believe I ran that dungeon maybe 20? times in total; I was getting terrible drop rates on those dudes.

Levictus
2015-07-18, 09:43 PM
EDIT: I think I might have just asked that question a couple of posts ago. If Jasmine were here she'd scold me. lol I need to go back and reread. I know Obryn posted that link to the AShiva team building guide, which I need to browse through thoroughly again. Still unsure of who to plus first tho.

I had the same, exact dilemma not too long ago. Mine was set for Kirin at first, then AShiva as I began reading about him, and then to A.Ra after I had success with C7/8 with him. I eventually settled on AShiva due to my sub pool, the content he can handle, and the fact that I can use my +297 Ronia on his team until I get the rest leveled/skilled/awoken.

A.Ra is incredibly fun though. Capable of so much and with the new boards coming out, should make it even more fun for the harder color/combo leads.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-18, 11:03 PM
F Gaia. That is all.

Otravyat
2015-07-18, 11:14 PM
F Gaia. That is all.

I have never even entered that dungeon. I fully expect to get it from God rush eventually. Without ever entering Gaia.

obryn
2015-07-18, 11:21 PM
F Gaia. That is all.
Yeah, Otra has the right idea. Go with God Rush instead. Or cheese it with Robin.

Quietus
2015-07-18, 11:29 PM
I am so very happy today. I've found that a cobbled-together A.Bastet team can rock out in Izanami's dungeon, and I finally find that my tablet's best friend status is super super useful. That +184 A.Bastet friend is great. :smalltongue:

::Edit:: And I am one skill level from dual max Izanami! Soon it will be time to evolve and level them.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-19, 02:20 AM
Should I feel bad for spending basically another new video game's worth of money to get a Saiga? :smalltongue:

I guess I sort of knew this whole time that I was going to IAP the moment I decided that I was going to run almost nothing other than the first collab for ranks.

Sallera
2015-07-19, 09:12 AM
Well, I didn't manage to 0-stone C10, as I kind of expected. I think I might have managed if everything were max skill, but as is, I only got to Hera-Is on my best try. Figured that was close enough for this time, spent two stones to get the Shynpy; I got one back, so more than worth it.

Anarion
2015-07-19, 10:32 AM
Yeah, I feel really bad. I think I fed maybe 12 firons to Cao Cao for the max skill. :smallredface: I got pretty lucky.

I believe I ran that dungeon maybe 20? times in total; I was getting terrible drop rates on those dudes.

Cao Cao is just the source of all my bad luck. I did stone the thing but like you started getting really bad drop rates for the firons. My current total is 4/32 now and I want that last skill rank so much (plus I have a second Cao Cao, so going over wouldn't be bad at all). To be fair though, I also have a max skill Uriel and max skill echidna, and they both skilled up at around 60% success rate, so it does even out overall.


F Gaia. That is all.

Well, yes.


Well, I didn't manage to 0-stone C10, as I kind of expected. I think I might have managed if everything were max skill, but as is, I only got to Hera-Is on my best try. Figured that was close enough for this time, spent two stones to get the Shynpy; I got one back, so more than worth it.

That's still quite impressive. What was your team for it?

Sallera
2015-07-19, 10:43 AM
ARa bookends, DKali/LKali/mini-SQ/Kushi subs. You can stall a bit on Voice as long as you clear all the jammers (and I also used the delay there), but I still ran out of actives eventually.

137beth
2015-07-19, 01:33 PM
Today is a big PAD day for me:
after an enourmous string of bad luck with Persephone skill-ups, I finally have a max skill Persephone!


I attempted Cauchemar legend with Ronia//Ronia/Ronia/Echidna/Persephone//Ronia (the echidna is to get past lilith), and beat it for the first time.
I tried to use the same team on mythical, but I died on the fourth floor. I was really close though, as the mini-boss only had a tiny amount of health left, but I ran out of dark and fire orbs. I might win if I attempt again. I really just want the invade to UVO one of my Ronias.

Quietus
2015-07-19, 02:21 PM
Today is a big PAD day for me:
after an enourmous string of bad luck with Persephone skill-ups, I finally have a max skill Persephone!


I attempted Cauchemar legend with Ronia//Ronia/Ronia/Echidna/Persephone//Ronia (the echidna is to get past lilith), and beat it for the first time.
I tried to use the same team on mythical, but I died on the fourth floor. I was really close though, as the mini-boss only had a tiny amount of health left, but I ran out of dark and fire orbs. I might win if I attempt again. I really just want the invade to UVO one of my Ronias.

Congratulations, that's fantastic! I love seeing people advancing. My tablet's just making incremental progress today, but I did manage to evolve my Dragon Knight to ADKZ for my Bastet team, so I'm pretty happy about that.

On the phone, I've been running just so much Shinrabansho. I've managed to get skill up #2 on Arthur, I still dream of getting him max skilled today but if I don't, I'll probably just use Shynpy to get the rest. The nice thing is that I have enough stamina and require enough experience to rank up that I'm essentially burning out one bar of stamina, spending a stone, and burning the entire next bar to get a rank up. I actually have things balanced at the point where I've got 50 spare stamina each time round, so I should be able to leverage that somehow. I also cleaned up my monster box, which included evolving five Green Chasers and feeding them to another Wind Chaser. I now have a skill level 4 Wind Chaser for no particular reason, but I'm at 820/1000 monster box space, which is pretty awesome. I can do 19 runs of Shinrabansho before having to clean up my box from all the drops!

Fax Celestis
2015-07-19, 02:43 PM
I took down Legendary Hills today. Going to try Legendary Earth when my stamina restores.

137beth
2015-07-19, 05:32 PM
I still need to do Legendary Hills...
You could probably beat Legendary Earth with GrOdin, poison/defense break subs, and a gravity-using sub (or maybe something like Hades as a resist lead, with a GrOdin helper). It's pretty easy if you prepare for it, but a lot of 'standard' descend teams have trouble.
My way of beating it was Ronia//Shiva/King Baddie/Hera-Ur/Ronia//Ronia, but not everyone has a Shiva and three Ronias, and I'm not sure what your box looks like.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-19, 05:47 PM
As a point of pride I refuse to cheese my way through dungeons. I tried it, but got orbscrewed and couldn't dish it out high enough. I'll try again though.

Is Defoud good for anything except trophy?

Quietus
2015-07-19, 11:25 PM
As a point of pride I refuse to cheese my way through dungeons. I tried it, but got orbscrewed and couldn't dish it out high enough. I'll try again though.

Is Defoud good for anything except trophy?

I think he's used on some Sonia Gran teams. Also, evolving Sonia Gran. Outside of that, I don't think so?

I managed to get .. four? - definitely more like six, I've gained three stamina allowance - rank ups today while farming Wafer Men. Arthur is up to skill 5, needs two more to max - I think I'm going to just Shynpy him to finish him off, I have one available and will pick up another eventually. I'm okay with that. I'm annoyed because I'm perfectly lined up to rank up after my next run, but I've got to get sleep tonight. Darned nephew's birthdays, I say with tongue firmly in cheek. :smalltongue: Taking him to an amusement park for the day.

137beth
2015-07-20, 12:23 AM
Nooo <censor bypass expletive!>!
I was looking forwards to getting a dark orb and UVOing Ronia while the 2.5 skillup event was active.
I finally got an invade on the first floor of Cauchemar. I stalled until all of my team's active skills were ready, then used Ronia to kill it.

And then, on the second floor, during the second round, my finger slipped, causing an orb to move without any matches. That counted as my turn, and I died. As I had wasted several stones on sandolphan previously, I had 0 stones remaining with which to continue. And now I won't have enough stamina to try again until after the descend (and the 2.5 skillup event) have ended:furious:

Otravyat
2015-07-20, 12:31 AM
Lot of runs of super golds tonight shot Hathor to max and Sparkles to 70 or so. Time to see what that team can do.

137beth
2015-07-20, 01:02 AM
On the flip side, I realized I have the monsters I need to eventually beat an upcoming Legend Plus dungeon:
this Zaerog Infinity team (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo16hB9SCaw). I have every monster in that team, except Awoken Venus. But I have two Venuses already, one L/D and one unevolved, so it's possible that by the time that dungeon comes out I will already have all the monsters I need:smallcool:
And the best part is, I don't even have to level them up (my least favorite part of the game), 'cause they start at level one anyways.

Quietus
2015-07-20, 06:52 AM
On the flip side, I realized I have the monsters I need to eventually beat an upcoming Legend Plus dungeon:
this Zaerog Infinity team (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo16hB9SCaw). I have every monster in that team, except Awoken Venus. But I have two Venuses already, one L/D and one unevolved, so it's possible that by the time that dungeon comes out I will already have all the monsters I need:smallcool:
And the best part is, I don't even have to level them up (my least favorite part of the game), 'cause they start at level one anyways.

Huh. That dungeon doesn't seem TOO difficult, actually. Wonder if my Kali team could do it after all? I mean, Kali herself wouldn't reach max level, but I think almost everyone else on the team would, since I'd probably sub in Shining Dragon Swordsman as my flex to deal with binds, and then the highest cost on the team outside of the leads would be Fuma. Neat.

Erloas
2015-07-20, 10:53 AM
Not much to say, but want to tag the thread.

Bought gold pirate dragon and did 6 runs for 4 pirates, 3 of those 4 came on the first run. Just have to stock pile them for now and wait for the next event.

And according to PADX we're getting the permanent 2x drop rates for the dailies starting tomorrow.
Also EU is getting 8.0.1, not sure if they are on 7.8.1 like NA or if they already have 7.9.2. 7.9.2 includes the machine type, new box sorting, ultimates for dark and light golems and Krishna and Sarasvati (Indian 2 gods). 8.0.1 really isn't much, box space increase, player rank increase, new pii/py dungeon. Also says a bug fix for Awoken Haku materials, which includes Zhou Yu as a material so maybe that dungeon too. Usually NA isn't much behind EU (at least I don't think it is)

Anarion
2015-07-20, 11:31 AM
Huh. That dungeon doesn't seem TOO difficult, actually. Wonder if my Kali team could do it after all? I mean, Kali herself wouldn't reach max level, but I think almost everyone else on the team would, since I'd probably sub in Shining Dragon Swordsman as my flex to deal with binds, and then the highest cost on the team outside of the leads would be Fuma. Neat.

The hard part I think is the first form Zaerog. You have to take him below 50% in two turns or he hits you for 40,000, you need at least 6 combos to hurt him, and the second turn he also decreases your orb move time by 1 second. If you can execute on the orbing though, then he does seem pretty reasonable. Also unbindable leads seem important so you don't get screwed at the end, and if you mess up and drop him below 30% he does a 100% gravity. But yes, it's doable.

obryn
2015-07-20, 03:07 PM
So I have to say, I like the Kapibara-san collab. :smallsmile:

The Elementals' actives are situational, sure, but think of how good Ganesha's active is, but how terrible its cooldown is. Now take that skill and extend it out to 3 turns, with a 10-round cooldown. If you know what you're planning for, that's where the elementals are great subs. Genie on this most recent Challenge 10 could have been a lifesaver, properly skilled up. (I used Kushi, but man, that was a tense moment where I wasn't completely sure I'd be able to one-shot the dark-absorbing Voice.)

Sadly, they have ghastly stats and awful leader skills, but their awakenings (post +orb buff) aren't really bad at all.

Jurai
2015-07-20, 03:10 PM
Wait, late game bosses evolve? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS? AND NO, IT'S MOST DEFINITELY NOT SPARTA!

Also, what's the deal with the Kapibara-san collab?

obryn
2015-07-20, 03:19 PM
Wait, late game bosses evolve? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS? AND NO, IT'S MOST DEFINITELY NOT SPARTA!

Also, what's the deal with the Kapibara-san collab?
It's a weird collab that's related to an (as far as I know) JP-only mobile game called Kapibara-san. Cute, distinctive artwork.

The monsters skill up the 5 Elementals - Thanatos, Shaitan, Genie, Sylph, and Undine.

White-san is the one to watch out for, here. He's amazingly high-defense (a lol-worthy 6m), and at 13 hp (on Legend) he'll take more than 1 full-team smack before he does over 24k damage. If you have synced ones, well ... poison, Ra, mass attack, UFO, Darkseid...

I'm running it with my A.Bastet team. Fun fact about A.Bastet teams - with a 5 cooldown, 2 max-skill Bastets let you Attack All every single round.

Jurai
2015-07-20, 03:26 PM
Also, got an ICE GOLEM drop yesterday night. Anybody got any art of Blue Mech General, Mar Midgard?

Fax Celestis
2015-07-20, 03:54 PM
It's a weird collab that's related to an (as far as I know) JP-only mobile game called Kapibara-san. Cute, distinctive artwork.https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/kapibara-san-puzzle/id626579485?l=en&mt=8

Jurai
2015-07-20, 04:46 PM
There is, apparently, a Final Fantasy Collab. Why was I not told of this earlier? Now I need to burn some serious cash. BECAUSE I WILL NOT BE DENIED MY DARK LORD EX-DEATH! And then I see Gilgamesh. This... WHO AT GUNGHO HAS BEEN SURFING MY YOUTUBE HISTORY! WHO!

Okay, momentary freak-out concluded. You may return to your regularly scheduled programming.

obryn
2015-07-20, 04:54 PM
Much like the DBZ collab, we may never see it.

I would whale hard to get a Goku to evo to Vegitto, though. :smallfrown:

Jurai
2015-07-20, 04:56 PM
As was posted in Ponythread and somewhere else that I posted.

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq60/Jurai_Madman/935581__safe_meme_animated_loop_filthyrich_spoiler-colon-s05e13_doprincessesdreamofmagicsheep_shutupandtake mymoney_superrich_themoneywarrior.gif

Quietus
2015-07-20, 11:28 PM
Much like the DBZ collab, we may never see it.

I would whale hard to get a Goku to evo to Vegitto, though. :smallfrown:


As was posted in Ponythread and somewhere else that I posted.

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq60/Jurai_Madman/935581__safe_meme_animated_loop_filthyrich_spoiler-colon-s05e13_doprincessesdreamofmagicsheep_shutupandtake mymoney_superrich_themoneywarrior.gif

These. So much these. I could see myself trying to reign in spending and still ending up dropping $200 to get nothing but silver eggs and regret. I almost kind of hope we never get DBZ collab just so I don't have to fight my basest urges to have the nicest things.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-20, 11:44 PM
Just give in and join the dark side. I only lasted one Godfest before I wasted more money and I don't really regret it one bit :smalltongue:

Looking at the DBZ collab, I don't really even see anything that amazing honestly. Goku's just DQXQ, Gohan's just Horus, Trunks and Vegeta both seem pretty underwhelming for gold eggs and none of the silver eggs really stand out.

obryn
2015-07-21, 12:29 AM
Just give in and join the dark side. I only lasted one Godfest before I wasted more money and I don't really regret it one bit :smalltongue:

Looking at the DBZ collab, I don't really even see anything that amazing honestly. Goku's just DQXQ, Gohan's just Horus, Trunks and Vegeta both seem pretty underwhelming for gold eggs and none of the silver eggs really stand out.
Goku turns into Vegitto. You can make a Ginyu Force team. Your argument is invalid. :smallwink:

obryn
2015-07-21, 12:35 AM
Also, Scarlet, the new jp Descend boss... :smalleek: Witness the unholy power.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JDFurBrGyzU

Otravyat
2015-07-21, 01:03 AM
Just give in and join the dark side. I only lasted one Godfest before I wasted more money and I don't really regret it one bit :smalltongue:

Looking at the DBZ collab, I don't really even see anything that amazing honestly. Goku's just DQXQ, Gohan's just Horus, Trunks and Vegeta both seem pretty underwhelming for gold eggs and none of the silver eggs really stand out.

Part of the appeal of DBZ arises from the fact that it first showed up ages ago. At the time, those monsters were REALLY top notch. Nowadays there are a lot of other leaders out there, but power creep is real.

Otravyat
2015-07-21, 01:08 AM
Also, Scarlet, the new jp Descend boss... :smalleek: Witness the unholy power.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JDFurBrGyzU

:smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek: :smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek: :smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek: :smalleek::smalleek::smalleek:

I'm horrified by the time (and money) necessary to already have 5 of those max skilled.

Anarion
2015-07-21, 01:23 AM
Also, Scarlet, the new jp Descend boss... :smalleek: Witness the unholy power.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JDFurBrGyzU


:smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek: :smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek: :smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek: :smalleek::smalleek::smalleek:

I'm horrified by the time (and money) necessary to already have 5 of those max skilled.

Hahahahaha. My god, you need 6 skill levels for each one, meaning if he fed during the 2.5x event you'd average to 24 Scarlets per Scarlet, so unless the guy had a bunch of Piis standing by, that team was ~150 Scarlets worth of Scarlet. Not to mention all the +eggs, which we won't even get into.

Quietus
2015-07-21, 07:40 AM
Hahahahaha. My god, you need 6 skill levels for each one, meaning if he fed during the 2.5x event you'd average to 24 Scarlets per Scarlet, so unless the guy had a bunch of Piis standing by, that team was ~150 Scarlets worth of Scarlet. Not to mention all the +eggs, which we won't even get into.

120, actually, remember that he doesn't have to skill up the friend hypermax Scarlet. He just has to find someone 20% as dedicated as he is. This is incredible, and I am beginning to wonder if I have a new goal in this game. Because I'm insane. :smalltongue: Hell of a way to farm Piis!

obryn
2015-07-21, 08:11 AM
:smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek: :smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek: :smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek::smalleek: :smalleek::smalleek::smalleek:

I'm horrified by the time (and money) necessary to already have 5 of those max skilled.
Well, here's another way to think of it.

Scarlet requires Ult Hera-Ur, Ult Hera, Devilit, Red & Black orbs to evolve. Dancing Hera requires Red Dub, Devilit, and three Red orbs. Ult Hera takes two Super Kings and three Devilits.

So to get 5 evolved Scarlets, you need 5 black orbs, 20 red orbs, 25 devilits, 10 super kings, and 5 red dubs.

The tamadra? Ehhh, a few runs of Tamadra Village and you're doing okay I guess. And given how often jp throws them about, I'm sure he had plenty. Also, jp throws you extra pii quite frequently, so he probably didn't have to go to that great lengths to get them max skilled.

As for getting them all +297? Whales are not like you and me. :smallsmile: Whales will happily feed away a hypermax +297 rare REM god as soon as they're no longer FoTM.

obryn
2015-07-21, 09:18 AM
So in the "why didn't you do this before?" department, I decided to spend 80 stamina and demolish Two Heroes and Hera on Team Challenge mode. Awoken Bastet is Awoken Bestcat.

And with this realization, I have found the real terror of the Scarlet System. You don't need five Scarlets. You need one max skill Scarlet and five friends as wacky as you.

Erloas
2015-07-21, 09:19 AM
Well EU v8.0.1 Quick Summary (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=354)
Still hasn't been figured out when NA gets it, but presumably very soon.
New ultimates for Shiva, Meimei, Cao Cao, and Durga.
All of the ninja gain 2 resists (to poison, jammers, or blind).
Quite a few other things here and there, the ones that stand out the most to me is all of the riders drop a few points in team cost, so in the non-ultimate forms they now all fit into Gaia teams. All of the ultimates gain 200hp and 150 ATK.
And the new versions of endless corridors.

obryn
2015-07-21, 09:22 AM
Well EU v8.0.1 Quick Summary (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=354)
Still hasn't been figured out when NA gets it, but presumably very soon.
New ultimates for Shiva, Meimei, Cao Cao, and Durga.
All of the ninja gain 2 resists (to poison, jammers, or blind).
Quite a few other things here and there, the ones that stand out the most to me is all of the riders drop a few points in team cost, so in the non-ultimate forms they now all fit into Gaia teams. All of the ultimates gain 200hp and 150 ATK.
And the new versions of endless corridors.
Yep; it won't be long at all, seriously. We're usually ahead of EU.

And ... oh no, i need a red dub for ult cao cao. :smallfrown: Shiva's 3 orbs, grimoire girl, and phoenix are ready to rumble, tho.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-21, 09:54 AM
We have permanent 2x weekly dungeons, though, which is nice.

That meant I finally got around to evoing and ulting Perseus. I'll probably end up sticking into some weird Bastet skill-lock resist team: two Bastet leaders and Perseus as a su is 80% all by itself. Add Leeza, maybe, and there's 100%. Two leftover flex slots for orbchanges.

Academia
2015-07-21, 10:45 AM
Guys.... I got fully absorbed by Final Fantasy Record Keeper -.-...

Now whenever I log onto PAD to do my Challenge dungeons and such I see you all with these A.Egyptians! Lol. Envious >.<

On a positive note, I did manage to row a Ra this last godfest 0.0.

Anarion
2015-07-21, 11:19 AM
I just got picked as somebody's best friend again, bringing the total to 6. :smallredface:

Apparently a nearly hypermax Urd is good bait.

Edit: and I fully intend to hit +297 today with Star vault.

Quietus
2015-07-21, 11:30 AM
Guys.... I got fully absorbed by Final Fantasy Record Keeper -.-...

Now whenever I log onto PAD to do my Challenge dungeons and such I see you all with these A.Egyptians! Lol. Envious >.<

On a positive note, I did manage to row a Ra this last godfest 0.0.

Ra, Ra! Wake the power! At least two of us were able to do C9 or C10 this past cycle with him. I didn't get past C8.

Otravyat
2015-07-21, 11:37 AM
I just got picked as somebody's best friend again, bringing the total to 6. :smallredface:

Apparently a nearly hypermax Urd is good bait.

Edit: and I fully intend to hit +297 today with Star vault.

SIX??? Wow. I'm sitting at 2 still. Are you a substantially higher level than most of your Urd friends?

Fax Celestis
2015-07-21, 11:40 AM
Man screw you guys with your best friends and your pal points

I'm going to go have a party with my only best friend, the one i requested myself

with blackjack! and hookers!

http://static3.fjcdn.com/comments/Blackjack+and+hookers+_12e920c10fedfef7e58b2956c91 367db.jpg

Erloas
2015-07-21, 11:50 AM
I only have 2 best friends, my wife and daughter (tablet account).

My Awoken Horus doesn't seem to be seeing a lot of friend use. I'm also seeing very few friends with Awoken Horus yet. Maybe they all decided not to change, I still have a lot of the old Horus on my list. I'm not seeing the pile of awoken Bastets I was but still a lot more than there used to be. Awoken Ra has quite a few spots now.

I'll need to farm up some more red dragon fruit for Cao Cao. Why does everything use red and rarely any of the other colors?

Anarion
2015-07-21, 11:51 AM
SIX??? Wow. I'm sitting at 2 still. Are you a substantially higher level than most of your Urd friends?

One is an IRL friend who started recently and is rank 80. I do appear to be the highest level of the bunch. The hypermaxed Urd that I selected is only like 10 ranks lower than me, one is rank 114, and the others are all around the 180-200 range (I'm 225 right now).


Man screw you guys with your best friends and your pal points

I'm going to go have a party with my only best friend, the one i requested myself

with blackjack! and hookers!

http://static3.fjcdn.com/comments/Blackjack+and+hookers+_12e920c10fedfef7e58b2956c91 367db.jpg

Aww. :smallfrown:

Quietus
2015-07-21, 12:48 PM
I just got picked as somebody's best friend again, bringing the total to 6. :smallredface:

Apparently a nearly hypermax Urd is good bait.

Edit: and I fully intend to hit +297 today with Star vault.

Would you mind if I had my nephew add you? Honestly, his account is not great, and moving slowly, so I wouldn't expect him to be useful to you. But if you've got a hypermax Urd available, I know he'll be looking for something like that to add as a best friend next time we get the chance to add one.

Anarion
2015-07-21, 12:58 PM
Would you mind if I had my nephew add you? Honestly, his account is not great, and moving slowly, so I wouldn't expect him to be useful to you. But if you've got a hypermax Urd available, I know he'll be looking for something like that to add as a best friend next time we get the chance to add one.

Sure that's fine. Either post his account name here or send me a message in PAD so I know who it is when I get a random invite.

Quietus
2015-07-21, 02:32 PM
Sure that's fine. Either post his account name here or send me a message in PAD so I know who it is when I get a random invite.

I believe last I checked, he goes by Dino Man X. I'll see about getting him to send the invite tonight, thanks!

Otravyat
2015-07-21, 05:02 PM
Great luck on star vault today, 8 runs (only had one stone) netted me 24 +eggs. My second U&Y is now at +217, and will "soon" be my 4th hypermax.

Quietus
2015-07-21, 08:27 PM
Great luck on star vault today, 8 runs (only had one stone) netted me 24 +eggs. My second U&Y is now at +217, and will "soon" be my 4th hypermax.

Congrats! I think I put five hundred stamina (two stones and a bit) into it, and got 39 plusses. I've got my first Kali hypermaxed, my second Kali is +55 mostly from +9 Tamadras, Fuma is at +210, and I put him on hold to do Arthur, who is now +151. My Kali team is coming along very nicely, I think.

obryn
2015-07-21, 10:28 PM
Woot.


http://i.imgur.com/oDjhBJs.jpg

Quietus
2015-07-22, 07:17 AM
Woot.


http://i.imgur.com/oDjhBJs.jpg

Woot woot! Congratulations!

Kauai
2015-07-22, 03:27 PM
So I have to say, I like the Kapibara-san collab. :smallsmile:

The Elementals' actives are situational, sure, but think of how good Ganesha's active is, but how terrible its cooldown is. Now take that skill and extend it out to 3 turns, with a 10-round cooldown. If you know what you're planning for, that's where the elementals are great subs. Genie on this most recent Challenge 10 could have been a lifesaver, properly skilled up. (I used Kushi, but man, that was a tense moment where I wasn't completely sure I'd be able to one-shot the dark-absorbing Voice.)

Sadly, they have ghastly stats and awful leader skills, but their awakenings (post +orb buff) aren't really bad at all.

I honestly didn't think much of this collab, but you're right. I should go ahead and max skill my elementals. (Would it make Christmas Genie worth anything now? lol) Hopefully there's a 2x skillup event aside from the guerrilla one this afternoon.


I'm running it with my A.Bastet team. Fun fact about A.Bastet teams - with a 5 cooldown, 2 max-skill Bastets let you Attack All every single round.

I've been sitting on a lone green pii (used my others on ACeres, and never bothered farming up much more than that), and was waiting to use it on AMeiMei. I was planning on eventually making the cheese Zuoh-4x AMeiMei team. But maybe ABastet makes more sense in the short term? Hmm.


Also, Scarlet, the new jp Descend boss... :smalleek: Witness the unholy power.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JDFurBrGyzU

That is outright insane. The only way I'd try that is if I find a decent way to farm her. If not, that's waaaay too much work.


Whales will happily feed away a hypermax +297 rare REM god as soon as they're no longer FoTM.

I'm pretty whaley (probably the biggest whale in our group here anyway...not a good thing), but I can't bring myself to do that. It's tempting tho, as I'm thinking of shifting focus away from Ronia and the bulk of my pluses are tied up in her team. After SV yesterday, I'm starting to do the "feed the plus eggs to chimeras or whatever to save for later" thing while I try and decide what to do with them.


And ... oh no, i need a red dub for ult cao cao. :smallfrown: Shiva's 3 orbs, grimoire girl, and phoenix are ready to rumble, tho.

I have literally only 2 red dubs, so it'll go towards CaoCao. Not sure if I should do one of each uvo, or two of the R/G one (tho that will require more red dragonfruit). Problem is I'm short on dublits; only have 1 left so I'll be busy farming on Friday. Like you tho, I'm already ready for Shiva. Can't wait!


Guys.... I got fully absorbed by Final Fantasy Record Keeper -.-...

Now whenever I log onto PAD to do my Challenge dungeons and such I see you all with these A.Egyptians! Lol. Envious >.<

On a positive note, I did manage to row a Ra this last godfest 0.0.

No idea what Final Fantasy Record Keeper is, but good to see you popping your head back in here man. Get with the ARa game! I think that team is your type. lol

(Seeing you pop back in makes me miss the presence of the old guard. No knock on the newer folks, glad you're here! :) I just miss folks like SiuiS, Jasmine, and Diego for example, who we haven't seen in forever.)


I just got picked as somebody's best friend again, bringing the total to 6. :smallredface:

Wow, that's awesome! My hyper AHades isn't nearly the BF bait I was hoping for as I only got the 1 random add. :( Good general friend bait, just not good BF bait. So I've only got 3 BFs, 2 of which was planned in a triangle (that's worked out great for me tho). I wonder if I should switch my main lead to something else to see if that will work. lol


Woot.


http://i.imgur.com/oDjhBJs.jpg

Nice, grats!

obryn
2015-07-22, 05:37 PM
I honestly didn't think much of this collab, but you're right. I should go ahead and max skill my elementals. (Would it make Christmas Genie worth anything now? lol) Hopefully there's a 2x skillup event aside from the guerrilla one this afternoon.
Yeah, I'm max skilling Thanatos and Shaitan at least, with maybe some towards Undine. I would love to max skill Genie, but I don't think her evo'd skill up monster drops from the dungeon. I think I'd be better off waiting for Light Bowl Dragon and getting the light mug-bunnies.


That is outright insane. The only way I'd try that is if I find a decent way to farm her. If not, that's waaaay too much work.
Yup. Ironically, it's a ton of work and then you apparently never need to do any more work. :smallconfused:


I have literally only 2 red dubs, so it'll go towards CaoCao. Not sure if I should do one of each uvo, or two of the R/G one (tho that will require more red dragonfruit). Problem is I'm short on dublits; only have 1 left so I'll be busy farming on Friday. Like you tho, I'm already ready for Shiva. Can't wait!
I bought Evo Rush earlier but forgot to stock up on red dubs. :smallmad:

And yeah, I miss the old guard too. :smallfrown:

Jasmine
2015-07-22, 11:45 PM
(Seeing you pop back in makes me miss the presence of the old guard. No knock on the newer folks, glad you're here! :) I just miss folks like SiuiS, Jasmine, and Diego for example, who we haven't seen in forever.)
Saw your message ingame today. I was in China the past few weeks (dorms 'had' wifi...but it didn't reach up to the 12th floor...) Not much new, got a few stones from logging in, killed sphinx a few times for Horus and Bastet, and died a bunch on C9 since it was a fast way to burn stamina. New goemon is also insanely fast at farming Seaway so I MSed my Kushi and 2nd U&Y. Impressive 51 mil noslime damage as well. I'm up to 3505 total plusses now, not that I've been farming them anymore. Suddenly not sure if I want to invest them in Vamp/Lumiel, now that the influx has dried up. I also missed the Anubis godfest since I had no connection, which sucks.

China was very rainy, which was good for the temperature but bad for pictures. Ended up taking very few good ones.

I did go 0/16 on Rodin skillups, which was really sad.

Otravyat
2015-07-23, 12:38 AM
Saw your message ingame today. I was in China the past few weeks (dorms 'had' wifi...but it didn't reach up to the 12th floor...) Not much new, got a few stones from logging in, killed sphinx a few times for Horus and Bastet, and died a bunch on C9 since it was a fast way to burn stamina. New goemon is also insanely fast at farming Seaway so I MSed my Kushi and 2nd U&Y. Impressive 51 mil noslime damage as well. I'm up to 3505 total plusses now, not that I've been farming them anymore. Suddenly not sure if I want to invest them in Vamp/Lumiel, now that the influx has dried up. I also missed the Anubis godfest since I had no connection, which sucks.

China was very rainy, which was good for the temperature but bad for pictures. Ended up taking very few good ones.

I did go 0/16 on Rodin skillups, which was really sad.

I swear sometimes that Gungho monitors which accounts give them money and reward them with better luck. Your skill up woes are absurd. Which makes me sad since it is one of the things driving you away from the game.

Jasmine
2015-07-23, 12:52 AM
I swear sometimes that Gungho monitors which accounts give them money and reward them with better luck. Your skill up woes are absurd. Which makes me sad since it is one of the things driving you away from the game.
There's lots of different kinds of luck though. If you discount that misguided Muse chasing 0/12 streak, I've actually possibly had more than my fair share of gods, though the usefulness of the selection is debatable (2 Ronias, 2 Grodins, 2 GGYs, 4 Hades) My drop rate luck is also fair - I've probably averaged around 55% for those 40% drop descends, though that may possibly just be that the rates aren't truly 40%. My skyfall luck seems pretty normal, if only because the sample size for that is the largest, as well as the plus egg drops, which might be a tad below average but not outrageously so. It's just the baby tamas and particular skillups that are a pain, though I did go 5/6 and 5/11 on my Ronias - maybe Kauai works at Gungho and maxed them just to troll me.

Then again, I did max skill 3 mini liubeis (with 20 winrons to spare) while my Andromeda is only halfway to MS. I might just be one of the folks hit harder by variance.

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-23, 01:46 AM
I swear sometimes that Gungho monitors which accounts give them money and reward them with better luck. Your skill up woes are absurd. Which makes me sad since it is one of the things driving you away from the game.

Nah, if Gungho did that, my luck wouldn't be as bad as it has been. I've made 2 85 stone purchases so far in the month and a half I've played and my baby tama awakenings are sitting at around 30%, I mentioned the horrible streak I had with skilling up Masterion earlier and it took me ~30 runs before I saw my first invade during the last collab on Legend.
My current luck with pulls so far is probably above average but you'd think they'd make it worse for players like me to tempt me to spend more.

Otravyat
2015-07-23, 01:51 AM
There's lots of different kinds of luck though. If you discount that misguided Muse chasing 0/12 streak, I've actually possibly had more than my fair share of gods, though the usefulness of the selection is debatable (2 Ronias, 2 Grodins, 2 GGYs, 4 Hades) My drop rate luck is also fair - I've probably averaged around 55% for those 40% drop descends, though that may possibly just be that the rates aren't truly 40%. My skyfall luck seems pretty normal, if only because the sample size for that is the largest, as well as the plus egg drops, which might be a tad below average but not outrageously so. It's just the baby tamas and particular skillups that are a pain, though I did go 5/6 and 5/11 on my Ronias - maybe Kauai works at Gungho and maxed them just to troll me.

Then again, I did max skill 3 mini liubeis (with 20 winrons to spare) while my Andromeda is only halfway to MS. I might just be one of the folks hit harder by variance.


Nah, if Gungho did that, my luck wouldn't be as bad as it has been. I've made 2 85 stone purchases so far in the month and a half I've played and my baby tama awakenings are sitting at around 30%, I mentioned the horrible streak I had with skilling up Masterion earlier and it took me ~30 runs before I saw my first invade during the last collab on Legend.
My current luck with pulls so far is probably above average but you'd think they'd make it worse for players like me to tempt me to spend more.

I know they dont ACTUALLY do that, it just feels like it sometimes. :smallbiggrin:

Erloas
2015-07-23, 08:53 AM
Speaking of bad luck, during the urgent skill up yesterday I went 4 for 35 on a wide range of skill-ups. Some weren't so bad because they weren't that important or from easily farmed monsters but I only got one of the ones I really wanted.

Need one more red fruit for Cao Cao, and being Thursday I hope I can get it. Not much else to say really.

obryn
2015-07-23, 08:54 AM
Saw your message ingame today. I was in China the past few weeks (dorms 'had' wifi...but it didn't reach up to the 12th floor...) Not much new, got a few stones from logging in, killed sphinx a few times for Horus and Bastet, and died a bunch on C9 since it was a fast way to burn stamina. New goemon is also insanely fast at farming Seaway so I MSed my Kushi and 2nd U&Y. Impressive 51 mil noslime damage as well. I'm up to 3505 total plusses now, not that I've been farming them anymore. Suddenly not sure if I want to invest them in Vamp/Lumiel, now that the influx has dried up. I also missed the Anubis godfest since I had no connection, which sucks.

China was very rainy, which was good for the temperature but bad for pictures. Ended up taking very few good ones.

I did go 0/16 on Rodin skillups, which was really sad.
HI JASMINE!

Sorry your China pictures didn't turn out, but I'm completely jealous you got to go there. :smallsmile: I've been using your A.Horus paired with my A.Ra on those No Dupes coin dungeons, fyi. :smallbiggrin:


So this morning I logged in, updated dutifully, and was like, "IT'S ON! LET'S BUSTY THAT SHIVA!" The update processed, and I was getting antsy. And I noticed... Cao Cao's busty was available, but ... Shiva was greyed out :smalleek: I evo'd Cao Cao and searched through forum threads. OTHER PEOPLE WERE GETTING AWOKEN SHIVA BUT NOT ME! :smallfurious:

And then I realized I needed to reverse Shiva's existing uvo. :smallredface:

So now, after feeding Echidna to him and my Star Vault leavings, and two red piis, I have a +195 Awoken Shiva at Skill 3. :smallbiggrin:

e:

Speaking of bad luck, during the urgent skill up yesterday I went 4 for 35 on a wide range of skill-ups. Some weren't so bad because they weren't that important or from easily farmed monsters but I only got one of the ones I really wanted.

Need one more red fruit for Cao Cao, and being Thursday I hope I can get it. Not much else to say really.
I got 1 skill up on Ares and then proceeded to get a big fat goose egg, including 0/6 on Thanatos.

Sallera
2015-07-23, 09:24 AM
Nice. Not having a Shiva or a Cao Cao, I'm mostly excited about the x3 +egg rates for normals coming up; I mean, I'll probably be spending all my stones on Angelits tomorrow, but still. Can potentially get more efficient than FT4 with OoH, or just stick with KoG and T6s.

Edit: Oh hey, rank 300. Slightly less team shuffling, yay~

obryn
2015-07-23, 09:56 AM
So ... uh ... Awoken Shiva is really, really good. You just kind of waggle orbs at things and you do six million damage. :smalleek:

137beth
2015-07-23, 10:22 AM
I UVO'd my first Durga right away. I expect to get the new Memei UVO soon (I only need guan yiping).

And I beat Endless Corridors: no heal orbs on my first try (double Odin, it was easy). Now to beat no awoken skill endless corridor...
I can either level up my Amaterasu and give it a bunch of + eggs, or think harder and come up with a less grind-ish team:smalltongue:

Kauai
2015-07-23, 11:53 AM
Saw your message ingame today. I was in China the past few weeks (dorms 'had' wifi...but it didn't reach up to the 12th floor...) Not much new, got a few stones from logging in, killed sphinx a few times for Horus and Bastet, and died a bunch on C9 since it was a fast way to burn stamina. New goemon is also insanely fast at farming Seaway so I MSed my Kushi and 2nd U&Y. Impressive 51 mil noslime damage as well. I'm up to 3505 total plusses now, not that I've been farming them anymore. Suddenly not sure if I want to invest them in Vamp/Lumiel, now that the influx has dried up. I also missed the Anubis godfest since I had no connection, which sucks.

China was very rainy, which was good for the temperature but bad for pictures. Ended up taking very few good ones.

I did go 0/16 on Rodin skillups, which was really sad.

Hey you! Missed you around here. I've never been to China. Hope the trip as a whole was a good one. :)

Sad about your Rodin skillup attempts. :smallfrown:


though I did go 5/6 and 5/11 on my Ronias - maybe Kauai works at Gungho and maxed them just to troll me.

HAHAHA Wish I could take credit for that! That really is what I would do to you. LOL


Speaking of bad luck, during the urgent skill up yesterday I went 4 for 35 on a wide range of skill-ups. Some weren't so bad because they weren't that important or from easily farmed monsters but I only got one of the ones I really wanted.

Yeah, I didn't get too many skillups either. Went 1/4 to finally get my last skillup on Kurone. Ran the collab once to see if I could get any elemental skillups and got one on Sylph. The one that I was particularly happy with was getting a skillup on Attackerasu after getting a single Yatagarasu from running the cat dragon dungeon for the first time. Attackerasu is brutal to skillup, but I've now got her to sl 7. Only 4 more to go (ugh).


So now, after feeding Echidna to him and my Star Vault leavings, and two red piis, I have a +195 Awoken Shiva at Skill 3. :smallbiggrin:

I took woke up and evo'd mine right away. After seeing your post I got jealous and decided to scrape together all of my loose pluses and feed it to him too, along with my single red pii. lol So mine is now +165 at skill 2. The real sad part is I wasn't as prepared as I thought I was, and now need 4 Tamas to fully awaken him. Grrr...


Edit: Oh hey, rank 300. Slightly less team shuffling, yay~

Grats!


So ... uh ... Awoken Shiva is really, really good. You just kind of waggle orbs at things and you do six million damage. :smalleek:

Man, I need to try him! What's the build you're using? (I uvo'd one CaoCao, and now need even more Tamas to awaken him too. I'm an idiot.)


I UVO'd my first Durga right away. I expect to get the new Memei UVO soon (I only need guan yiping).

And I beat Endless Corridors: no heal orbs on my first try (double Odin, it was easy). Now to beat no awoken skill endless corridor...
I can either level up my Amaterasu and give it a bunch of + eggs, or think harder and come up with a less grind-ish team:smalltongue:

I did AShiva, one CaoCao, and one MeiMei. I need to wait till tomorrow to do the second CaoCao and Durga as I ran out of dubmyths. I also need to farm a ton of green jewels to continue working towards the Zuoh-Meimei cheese team.

I've never tried any of the endless corridors yet. lol Oh like I mentioned earlier, my Attackerasu is at sl 7 (14 turn CD), fully awoken, lvl 93 and +39 (35 of which are RCV). Let me know if you'd like me to put her up for you to give that dungeon a try.

obryn
2015-07-23, 12:09 PM
Man, I need to try him! What's the build you're using? (I uvo'd one CaoCao, and now need even more Tamas to awaken him too. I'm an idiot.)
Awoken Kagu, Urd, RG CaoCao, and a flex spot. That flex spot has been occupied already by Dino Rider (good orb change and hefty prongs), Suzaku (extra board change, though unreliable red output, 1 prong, though lol@having all four sub-colors), and Yamato (great orb change, heart-maker, 100% skill bind, and 3 skill boosts, though no prongs). Other candidates include a second Urd after I max skill the first one, Phoenix Rider should I be so lucky as to pull one, maaaybe Freyr for loz, alt-evo Ares when we get him, or even someone like DIza if I need a defense boost. Wish I had RValk or Chiyome or Chibiyome, but eh, this team is strong. What's especially nice is that, with all the +orb awakenings, I'm getting something like an extra x1.62 on a single 4-match, which is better than a whole extra prong for every team member.


I've never tried any of the endless corridors yet. lol Oh like I mentioned earlier, my Attackerasu is at sl 7 (14 turn CD), fully awoken, lvl 93 and +39 (35 of which are RCV). Let me know if you'd like me to put her up for you to give that dungeon a try.
They're free magic rocks if you have time.

Anarion
2015-07-23, 12:17 PM
I ulted my Cao Cao, but AShiva may be a while. I have no Phoenix despite some earlier clears of Noah and a clear of Zeus Vulcan yesterday, and I don't have a Theurgia I'm willing to give up. My current one is sometimes on the Urd team and has skills and awakenings plus she's almost level 90. I'll get another when grimoires rotates back around.

Edit: oh and I'm short q jewel of fire too, so I need the events to roll back around.

obryn
2015-07-23, 12:19 PM
I ulted my Cao Cao, but AShiva may be a while. I have no Phoenix despite some earlier clears of Noah and a clear of Zeus Vulcan yesterday, and I don't have a Theurgia I'm willing to give up. My current one is sometimes on the Urd team and has skills and awakenings plus she's almost level 90. I'll get another when grimoires rotates back around.
Phoenix is the rough part, yeah. I know folks who hunt for them, and they just don't drop very often. I feel kind of bad that I had max awoken mine off of other phoenixes I'd received. :smallredface:

I would note, though, that if you get Awoken Shiva you arguably won't need an Urd team anymore. :smallwink:

Fax Celestis
2015-07-23, 12:34 PM
I need green orbs for AMeimei, then I can slide her right into my ABastet team. I mean, she's already there, but she'll be so much better. Thankfully, looks like Zhao Yun and Sphinx are the green orb sources this event, both of which are fairly easy mythicals. I'll need another Zhao Yun anyway.

Quietus
2015-07-23, 02:16 PM
My girlfriend Uvo'ed her Durga today, too, and instantly fell in love. She's still leveling some of the team, but Durga is going to be her Kali. Anyone planning on maining Durga, who needs more Durga friends?

And in my news, I entered True Endless last night, finished it today - I remembered to hit Arcline this time, and turned out I didn't need to! So I've beat True Endless, but not in time to get the stone. It applied the win to the new slew of dungeons, though, so I've got a nice little "Clear" next to it. I'm okay with that.

Kauai
2015-07-23, 02:24 PM
Awoken Kagu, Urd, RG CaoCao, and a flex spot. That flex spot has been occupied already by Dino Rider (good orb change and hefty prongs), Suzaku (extra board change, though unreliable red output, 1 prong, though lol@having all four sub-colors), and Yamato (great orb change, heart-maker, 100% skill bind, and 3 skill boosts, though no prongs). Other candidates include a second Urd after I max skill the first one, Phoenix Rider should I be so lucky as to pull one, maaaybe Freyr for loz, alt-evo Ares when we get him, or even someone like DIza if I need a defense boost. Wish I had RValk or Chiyome or Chibiyome, but eh, this team is strong. What's especially nice is that, with all the +orb awakenings, I'm getting something like an extra x1.62 on a single 4-match, which is better than a whole extra prong for every team member.

They're free magic rocks if you have time.

Nice, I'll probably copy one of your builds. I'm thinking AKagu/RG CaoCao/Urd/Urd. My major problem is skills though; one Urd is max, my second Urd and CaoCao are only SL 2, and AKagu is base skill. Well, not to mention my Shiva and CaoCao aren't fully awoken yet as I whined about earlier. Do you think RValk or Chiyome should be subbed in instead, especially given my lack of skillups on the other cards? And actually, is Chiyome or Chibiyome preferred (I'm guessing maybe Chibiyome due to the TPA)? At least RValk and Chiyome are max skilled, and Chibiyome is one away from max. I'm itching to try this team! So maybe AKagu/RG CaoCao/Urd/Chibiyome? Hmm...wait, my Chibyome is not leveled enough (only in the 20s). And dang, my Chiyome isn't fully awoken (2 away)!! Good grief, I'm even dumber than I thought.

I guess one of these days I'll try at least one of the endless corridors. lol I just imagine it's a long grind...


Phoenix is the rough part, yeah. I know folks who hunt for them, and they just don't drop very often. I feel kind of bad that I had max awoken mine off of other phoenixes I'd received. :smallredface:

Yeah, thankfully I had kept a phoenix in my box (one of the times my hoarding tendencies came in handy). I was originally feeding them away for Horus skillups. I didn't realize they were so hard to come by (haven't gotten one since it was announced as evo fodder for AShiva). I ran Zeus Vulcan to see if I could get one and to try and remember the build I used for him. After using leads like ARa, my orbing skills have kind of drastically improved. I still went in with my Ronia team, but I was able to readily handle floors where on previous occasions I had to use actives. Pretty cool. No phoenix tho.


I need green orbs for AMeimei, then I can slide her right into my ABastet team. I mean, she's already there, but she'll be so much better. Thankfully, looks like Zhao Yun and Sphinx are the green orb sources this event, both of which are fairly easy mythicals. I'll need another Zhao Yun anyway.

Hmm...yeah, those are decent mythicals to farm. I'm dreading trying to uvo more AMeimei tho; I'm not quite sure I want to bother with the cheese team I want to try. Such a drain on resources (not to mention the need for a ton of green piis).

Kauai
2015-07-23, 02:27 PM
My girlfriend Uvo'ed her Durga today, too, and instantly fell in love. She's still leveling some of the team, but Durga is going to be her Kali. Anyone planning on maining Durga, who needs more Durga friends?

And in my news, I entered True Endless last night, finished it today - I remembered to hit Arcline this time, and turned out I didn't need to! So I've beat True Endless, but not in time to get the stone. It applied the win to the new slew of dungeons, though, so I've got a nice little "Clear" next to it. I'm okay with that.

If she'd like to add me, I've got a Durga that I plan on uvo-ing tomorrow (+30 but only skill level 3). I don't main her tho (despite my initial plan to do so), but I can put her up on request.

obryn
2015-07-23, 02:50 PM
Nice, I'll probably copy one of your builds. I'm thinking AKagu/RG CaoCao/Urd/Urd. My major problem is skills though; one Urd is max, my second Urd and CaoCao are only SL 2, and AKagu is base skill. Well, not to mention my Shiva and CaoCao aren't fully awoken yet as I whined about earlier. Do you think RValk or Chiyome should be subbed in instead, especially given my lack of skillups on the other cards? And actually, is Chiyome or Chibiyome preferred (I'm guessing maybe Chibiyome due to the TPA)? At least RValk and Chiyome are max skilled, and Chibiyome is one away from max. I'm itching to try this team! So maybe AKagu/RG CaoCao/Urd/Chibiyome? Hmm...wait, my Chibyome is not leveled enough (only in the 20s). And dang, my Chiyome isn't fully awoken (2 away)!! Good grief, I'm even dumber than I thought.
If you have max skill RValk, she's definitely better than a 2nd Urd, I would say. I would lean RValk > Chibiyome > Chiyome but YMMV. RValk has a lot of RCV that the team is otherwise sorely lacking, and while she 'only' has 2 TPA, her other perks I think outweigh that. Then again Chibiyome's orb change leaves your hearts alone. So uh... :shrug:

One Urd, RG CaoCao, and AKagu are core team members though. You get doubled up on "I melt water orbs" but their other perks are totally worth it.


Yeah, thankfully I had kept a phoenix in my box (one of the times my hoarding tendencies came in handy). I was originally feeding them away for Horus skillups. I didn't realize they were so hard to come by (haven't gotten one since it was announced as evo fodder for AShiva). I ran Zeus Vulcan to see if I could get one and to try and remember the build I used for him. After using leads like ARa, my orbing skills have kind of drastically improved. I still went in with my Ronia team, but I was able to readily handle floors where on previous occasions I had to use actives. Pretty cool. No phoenix tho.
Ra leads will tend to do that. :smallbiggrin:

But watch out; Shiva lets you get sorta lazy, too. 4-match fire orbs + 5 other combos and everything melts. If I had more +eggs invested in Athena, she'd be fed off, too, I think.

I used to actually use my Phoenix, briefly, in the aftermath of the EVA collab when I could actually find buddy leads for my uvo'd Asuka, but that was back when 2/4/2 was a thing people did.

Anarion
2015-07-23, 02:54 PM
I would note, though, that if you get Awoken Shiva you arguably won't need an Urd team anymore. :smallwink:

Kinda. Urd still does a nice thing where I can walk into places with more than 25k hp and no need to worry about having to activate the leader skill or die, which is great for consistency of clears. Shiva obviously hits way harder and (eventually) sustains better though.

Also 6 combos is a little hard for me at this point. I can do it if the field is good or I stop what I'm doing and figure out my exact route in dawnglare, but I can't pound it out over and over. 5 is my consistent number.


I need green orbs for AMeimei, then I can slide her right into my ABastet team. I mean, she's already there, but she'll be so much better. Thankfully, looks like Zhao Yun and Sphinx are the green orb sources this event, both of which are fairly easy mythicals. I'll need another Zhao Yun anyway.

Oh thank goodness. I couldn't do any of the green orb mythicals last time around.

Jurai
2015-07-23, 02:59 PM
That's it. I'm getting frustrated. When is the next Godfest, GungHo? I'll pay real money!

Kauai
2015-07-23, 03:12 PM
If you have max skill RValk, she's definitely better than a 2nd Urd, I would say. I would lean RValk > Chibiyome > Chiyome but YMMV. RValk has a lot of RCV that the team is otherwise sorely lacking, and while she 'only' has 2 TPA, her other perks I think outweigh that. Then again Chibiyome's orb change leaves your hearts alone. So uh... :shrug:

One Urd, RG CaoCao, and AKagu are core team members though. You get doubled up on "I melt water orbs" but their other perks are totally worth it.

Yeah, I was leaning towards Chibiyome over RValk because she's not a heartbreaker. But again, no levels on her and one away from max skill (tho 6 turn CD is still okay I suppose). I guess I can experiment and see which works better for me.

So I'm good with one Urd as she's max skilled, and I guess my sl 2 RG CaoCao is a given as well (tho I gotta get him skilled up). Then one of the 5-turn folks. For the last tho (and assuming no skillups), would a second RG CaoCao be more desirable over AKagu? Or vice versa (a second AKagu over RG CaoCao)? I've got 2 AKagu, and can make a second RG CaoCao. Or is one of each better overall?


Ra leads will tend to do that. :smallbiggrin:

But watch out; Shiva lets you get sorta lazy, too. 4-match fire orbs + 5 other combos and everything melts. If I had more +eggs invested in Athena, she'd be fed off, too, I think.

Ooh, now I'm even more excited to try it out. lol I still don't consistently 6-combo tho, but I'm fairly close. I guess my problem is I don't always spend the time to fully plan out my move, and occasionally end up winging it towards the end. But still, having to do 5 other combos along with the 4-match requires more skill and thought than Ronia. Can't get any lazier than I already am. heh


Also 6 combos is a little hard for me at this point. I can do it if the field is good or I stop what I'm doing and figure out my exact route in dawnglare, but I can't pound it out over and over. 5 is my consistent number.

Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at too (tho I'm hitting above 5 combos maybe 60-70% of the time now?). Like I mentioned, I'm lazy and I don't do the dawnglare thing so that definitely impacts my number of combos. I'm hoping to get to at least 7 consistently (can't imagine ever running Anubis), and I'm sure it'll come with time with my switching to AShiva and ARa. I'll probably still use Ronia for the really easy stuff tho.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-23, 03:21 PM
That's it. I'm getting frustrated. When is the next Godfest, GungHo? I'll pay real money!

Usually the 2nd and last weekends of the month.

Erloas
2015-07-23, 03:28 PM
I find that I'm so unused to doing more than 3 orbs with Horus that it really throws off my total number of combos when I try getting TPAs in there, especially if it is more than one. I'm getting better now that I run Athena a lot but combining them still isn't second nature.

Of course I don't have most of the cool new awokens. Still trying for Gaia to get Awoken Hades, wasn't going to do Ceres, and Minerva was a thought but I haven't put any effort into her. Those aren't the super neat ones though. And while I have Horus, he really doesn't feel any different, though I'm sure a with him a few more things have opened up that I wasn't able to blast through before.

obryn
2015-07-23, 03:37 PM
Yeah, I was leaning towards Chibiyome over RValk because she's not a heartbreaker. But again, no levels on her and one away from max skill (tho 6 turn CD is still okay I suppose). I guess I can experiment and see which works better for me.

So I'm good with one Urd as she's max skilled, and I guess my sl 2 RG CaoCao is a given as well (tho I gotta get him skilled up). Then one of the 5-turn folks. For the last tho (and assuming no skillups), would a second RG CaoCao be more desirable over AKagu? Or vice versa (a second AKagu over RG CaoCao)? I've got 2 AKagu, and can make a second RG CaoCao. Or is one of each better overall?
Yeah, there's no reason to keep one monster in the flex spot forever, eh? Red is important, orb changes are important, prongs are important. Try out both Chibiyome and RValk and see how each works out! I tend to change out team members fairly regularly on all my hard-hitting teams. (Farming teams tend to be super-stable only because it doesn't really matter.)

As for subs - I tend to prefer variety in my subs (a hard habit to break), though YMMV. I know some are using 2x CaoCao and some 2x AKagu. I'd personally keep one of each if you have them. Cao Cao has the delay, which is awesome. AKagu has 3 prongs, though, and with a 4-match, has a base ATK of 5,265 - 864 points higher than CaoCao (with the gap widening as you get more +ATK orbs into Kagu).

I just recently max-skilled CaoCao ... I think in this coin dungeon rotation? I got exceptionally lucky with him, though, no doubt. I want to say I got close to a 50% skill-up success rate during the 2.5x event. And AKagu has been max skilled forever off the very first few flampys we got.


Ooh, now I'm even more excited to try it out. lol I still don't consistently 6-combo tho, but I'm fairly close. I guess my problem is I don't always spend the time to fully plan out my move, and occasionally end up winging it towards the end. But still, having to do 5 other combos along with the 4-match requires more skill and thought than Ronia. Can't get any lazier than I already am. heh
Yeah, but you wanted 6 combos if you could manage with Ronia anyway. And here you need a single prong instead of rows. 6 combos is pretty tame, IMO, compared to A.Ra, Kirin, U&Y, or any of the Kalis. (And besides, you get an effective x9 activation as low as 4 combos. x9->x14.06->x20.25)

Jasmine
2015-07-23, 03:41 PM
I know they dont ACTUALLY do that, it just feels like it sometimes. :smallbiggrin:
Yeah my point was that my other luck is largely average, but it's weird to chime in with "woohoo average skillups!", and I've had more strings of excessively bad luck than excessively good ones. And the good ones are on Ronia, so...


HI JASMINE!

Sorry your China pictures didn't turn out, but I'm completely jealous you got to go there. :smallsmile: I've been using your A.Horus paired with my A.Ra on those No Dupes coin dungeons, fyi. :smallbiggrin:
Hi :) I've actually gone there 4 times already...which means I've already seen a few of the places multiple times :smallmad: http://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11707476_2929497590601_6430689879466757503_n.jpg?o h=3b1b7328af0c0e0c8d1451b321602778&oe=5614713F

I've been trying to get that last skillup but the last two pees haven't dropped :\ Also didn't know about maintenance so I bought a coin dungeon at 10:59 with a full bar of stam...


I guess one of these days I'll try at least one of the endless corridors. lol I just imagine it's a long grind...
It takes less than 10 minutes unless you're trying to cheese it or if you plan really slow. EC is a long grind, but TEC doesn't make you wait 44 rounds before something does damage.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-23, 03:44 PM
Yeah, but you wanted 6 combos if you could manage with Ronia anyway. And here you need a single prong instead of rows. 6 combos is pretty tame, IMO, compared to A.Ra, Kirin, U&Y, or any of the Kalis. (And besides, you get an effective x9 activation as low as 4 combos. x9->x14.06->x20.25)

Funny story: So ABastet is 3x at 5, 3.5x at 6, 4x at 7, right? Which would make her a 9/12.25/16x leader? Except you also have her skill use boost, which takes her to 20.25/27.56/36x...and then you have to figure in combo count: since it is impossible to activate her leader skills without comboing that high, you can include them in the multiplier. Which means ABastet is really a 40.5/62.015/90x leader. She's not AHorus, or ARa, or AAnubis, but it is a significantly large damage boost that I only really noticed when I started throwing out two to three times the damage I was expecting.

obryn
2015-07-23, 03:53 PM
http://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11707476_2929497590601_6430689879466757503_n.jpg?o h=3b1b7328af0c0e0c8d1451b321602778&oe=5614713F
Whoa. That's gorgeous.


I've been trying to get that last skillup but the last two pees haven't dropped :\ Also didn't know about maintenance so I bought a coin dungeon at 10:59 with a full bar of stam...
I have a feeling I'll be chain-running True CoSitA after I refill my Dub collection tomorrow. :smallfrown:


Funny story: So ABastet is 3x at 5, 3.5x at 6, 4x at 7, right? Which would make her a 9/12.25/16x leader? Except you also have her skill use boost, which takes her to 20.25/27.56/36x...and then you have to figure in combo count: since it is impossible to activate her leader skills without comboing that high, you can include them in the multiplier. Which means ABastet is really a 40.5/62.015/90x leader. She's not AHorus, or ARa, or AAnubis, but it is a significantly large damage boost that I only really noticed when I started throwing out two to three times the damage I was expecting.
From what I know, A.Ra, A.Bastet, and A.Shiva are currently top of the totem pole in JP. (Also A.Lakshmi, funny enough, though we don't have the right subs yet to make her shine.)

A.Bastet is simply amazing and I'm thrilled I have one. But ... I have very, very few of her best subs - no Verdandi, Liu Bei, etc. The only top-tier one I have is Green Valk, but she's not skilled up at all. So I'm largely using GR Cuchu, ADK-Z, Susano/Kushi, and [wildcard]. And still killing everything, which is kind of amazing.

But when it comes down to it, while I really enjoy killing stuff with A.Bastet, my sub pool for A.Shiva is just much deeper. I probably have a stronger A.Shiva team than an A.Ra team, since I'm lacking in LKalis!:smalleek:

Kauai
2015-07-23, 04:00 PM
Yeah, there's no reason to keep one monster in the flex spot forever, eh?

LOL You know, reflecting back on what you posted and on my response, I really am dumb. There's a reason why you said "flex".


Red is important, orb changes are important, prongs are important. Try out both Chibiyome and RValk and see how each works out! I tend to change out team members fairly regularly on all my hard-hitting teams. (Farming teams tend to be super-stable only because it doesn't really matter.)

As for subs - I tend to prefer variety in my subs (a hard habit to break), though YMMV. I know some are using 2x CaoCao and some 2x AKagu. I'd personally keep one of each if you have them. Cao Cao has the delay, which is awesome. AKagu has 3 prongs, though, and with a 4-match, has a base ATK of 5,265 - 864 points higher than CaoCao (with the gap widening as you get more +ATK orbs into Kagu).

I never considered plusing Kagu before. With all of these new uvos and teams I really need to reconsider where I'm feeding my +eggs. I'm at +240 on Panda but the majority of what's left is ATK, so I'll probably just leave her alone at this point. I'll probably finish up AShiva now, then see where to go from there.


I just recently max-skilled CaoCao ... I think in this coin dungeon rotation? I got exceptionally lucky with him, though, no doubt. I want to say I got close to a 50% skill-up success rate during the 2.5x event. And AKagu has been max skilled forever off the very first few flampys we got.

I bought the dungeon and got very few firons and only a single skillup. So aggravating. But yeah, I need to work on that during this rotation. (Also need to figure out a fast farming team for that dungeon.) AKagu was never even a consideration for flampys for me. I guess I need to rethink that. First target AShiva, then I guess Kagu?


Yeah, but you wanted 6 combos if you could manage with Ronia anyway. And here you need a single prong instead of rows. 6 combos is pretty tame, IMO, compared to A.Ra, Kirin, U&Y, or any of the Kalis. (And besides, you get an effective x9 activation as low as 4 combos. x9->x14.06->x20.25)

Oh I'm just shining with cluelessness today. lol You're right, there are occasions where I need to do combos with Ronia as opposed to rows and I'm able to hit 6 easily (well, given an active that gave me enough of each color orb to manage it anyway). It's just way simpler to do it with only 2 colors tho. Takes significantly more thinking hitting 6 combos with a mixed board.


Hi :) I've actually gone there 4 times already...which means I've already seen a few of the places multiple times :smallmad: http://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11707476_2929497590601_6430689879466757503_n.jpg?o h=3b1b7328af0c0e0c8d1451b321602778&oe=5614713F

Great pic! (Tho that thick haze in the sky is a bit disconcerting. I guess I'm spoiled with the clear skies here in Hawaii.)


It takes less than 10 minutes unless you're trying to cheese it or if you plan really slow. EC is a long grind, but TEC doesn't make you wait 44 rounds before something does damage.

Hmm. Maybe one of these days I'll try it then. I'm thinking it won't be with Ronia tho, as I don't think she can do enough sustained damage without actives to make it all the way. Maybe ARa or AShiva once that team is ready.


Funny story: So ABastet is 3x at 5, 3.5x at 6, 4x at 7, right? Which would make her a 9/12.25/16x leader? Except you also have her skill use boost, which takes her to 20.25/27.56/36x...and then you have to figure in combo count: since it is impossible to activate her leader skills without comboing that high, you can include them in the multiplier. Which means ABastet is really a 40.5/62.015/90x leader. She's not AHorus, or ARa, or AAnubis, but it is a significantly large damage boost that I only really noticed when I started throwing out two to three times the damage I was expecting.

In the PADforums there's discussion over which is preferred, AShiva or ABastet. Mixed opinions but most that posted in that thread seem to lean towards ABastet. I think one big problem is the lack of an unbindable bind clearer for red; green has options. But yeah, ABastet can definitely hit hard (I haven't tried her yet but probably should eventually).

Fax Celestis
2015-07-23, 04:06 PM
I know. I really need to skill up my ABastet subs too. My GValk is currently unskilled, but rather than hitting up Two Heroes for ~100 stam/skillup attempt (or ~500/skillup on 2x event), I'm just going to wait for Poring Tower to come back around. Artemis is getting skilled whenever I run Super Emeralds, and when the first is done I'll start on the second. Meimei will get Piis after Bastet is done, and my last slot right now is Kaguyahime, but I'm not sure if I want to keep her there. I have a lot of options to slot in there: Kushi, Athena, Thumbelina, Leeza, Perseus, Drake, Zeal, Cauchemar, Swallowtail, or a second Artemis. Leeza or Thumbelina, once I've skilled them up, are probably my best bets, but for now Kushi is probably better than Kaguyahime.

Kauai
2015-07-23, 04:06 PM
I have a feeling I'll be chain-running True CoSitA after I refill my Dub collection tomorrow. :smallfrown:

That drops red piis, right? I need a ton of those. What team do you plan to run for that?


From what I know, A.Ra, A.Bastet, and A.Shiva are currently top of the totem pole in JP. (Also A.Lakshmi, funny enough, though we don't have the right subs yet to make her shine.)

A.Bastet is simply amazing and I'm thrilled I have one. But ... I have very, very few of her best subs - no Verdandi, Liu Bei, etc. The only top-tier one I have is Green Valk, but she's not skilled up at all. So I'm largely using GR Cuchu, ADK-Z, Susano/Kushi, and [wildcard]. And still killing everything, which is kind of amazing.

I tried ALakshmi but I was having trouble adjusting to the playstyle. lol Too set in my ways I guess.

Green Valk is the one color I'm missing, so I need to find a suitable substitute if I'm going to try ABastet. Thinking about it, I think I fed away my only GR Cuchu as evo fodder. I need to make a new one.


But when it comes down to it, while I really enjoy killing stuff with A.Bastet, my sub pool for A.Shiva is just much deeper. I probably have a stronger A.Shiva team than an A.Ra team, since I'm lacking in LKalis!:smalleek:

For ARa, I kept going back and forth between either running 2 DKalis or 1 DKali and 1 LKali. Nice part with 2 darks is they're unbindable. Nice part with LKali is it's easier to activate ARa with her leader skill (no hearts on the board to deal with). Depends on how adventurous I felt I guess. lol

obryn
2015-07-23, 04:12 PM
LOL You know, reflecting back on what you posted and on my response, I really am dumb. There's a reason why you said "flex".
Ahahah no worries man. :smallsmile: And besides, I read it as, "Which of these non-max-skill monsters should I work on max-skilling?" which is a completely legitimate question.


I never considered plusing Kagu before. With all of these new uvos and teams I really need to reconsider where I'm feeding my +eggs. I'm at +240 on Panda but the majority of what's left is ATK, so I'll probably just leave her alone at this point. I'll probably finish up AShiva now, then see where to go from there.

I bought the dungeon and got very few firons and only a single skillup. So aggravating. But yeah, I need to work on that during this rotation. (Also need to figure out a fast farming team for that dungeon.) AKagu was never even a consideration for flampys for me. I guess I need to rethink that. First target AShiva, then I guess Kagu?
Totally your call. I tend to think AKagu's skill is more generally useful (and he's a more generally viable sub and gimmick lead) than AShiva's, but then again, AShiva is more likely to grab a spot on my Ra team in the (oh so unlikely) event I need a defense break.

With that said, I do tend to water my front lawn before weeding the backyard with my PADmons. Shoring up your leader first is more likely to attract and keep hypermax buddies, and it helps more people than just yourself. I was torn between AKagu and AShiva for all of Echidna's +'s, and I'm glad I went with Shiva in the end. Having a +195 skill 3 AShiva will do my friends more good than me having a +195 AKagu.


Oh I'm just shining with cluelessness today. lol You're right, there are occasions where I need to do combos with Ronia as opposed to rows and I'm able to hit 6 easily (well, given an active that gave me enough of each color orb to manage it anyway). It's just way simpler to do it with only 2 colors tho. Takes significantly more thinking hitting 6 combos with a mixed board.
Some people are totally sensibly running their hypermax Ronias on their Shiva teams, so that's always an option too. :smallsmile:


In the PADforums there's discussion over which is preferred, AShiva or ABastet. Mixed opinions but most that posted in that thread seem to lean towards ABastet. I think one big problem is the lack of an unbindable bind clearer for red; green has options. But yeah, ABastet can definitely hit hard (I haven't tried her yet but probably should eventually).
I can completely understand the sentiment. I just feel fortunate to have so many of the current top leads in my box. :smallcool:

I tend to feel like I'm doing way more damage with AShiva, but as I said, that might just be a result of my much better sub pool.

Quietus
2015-07-23, 04:16 PM
Funny story: So ABastet is 3x at 5, 3.5x at 6, 4x at 7, right? Which would make her a 9/12.25/16x leader? Except you also have her skill use boost, which takes her to 20.25/27.56/36x...and then you have to figure in combo count: since it is impossible to activate her leader skills without comboing that high, you can include them in the multiplier. Which means ABastet is really a 40.5/62.015/90x leader. She's not AHorus, or ARa, or AAnubis, but it is a significantly large damage boost that I only really noticed when I started throwing out two to three times the damage I was expecting.

Yeah, I can't help but snicker at the "bestcat" references, but she's kind of a tremendous beast. I'm very much looking forward to getting some more of her power subs on my phone tablet (plenty of power subs on my phone), though I have a sneaking suspicion that it's going to be a couple months before we see a proper Godfest wood gala for me to roll on. And then I have to hope that that particular Godfest offers decent cards. I don't think I'll be rolling during the rider carnival for her.. I already have Marine Rider, and he's going to be a pain to skill up since A.Bastet is getting the first Woodpy that I collect. And the new Green rider isn't particularly thrilling to me, I'd rather chance grabbing him via the Wood Gala, since he's a really situational sub. Only really useful for those situations where you have something with huge defense and no HP that needs to die right away.

obryn
2015-07-23, 04:17 PM
That drops red piis, right? I need a ton of those. What team do you plan to run for that?
It's 'no dupes' which makes it harder. I was running A.Bastet with a Verdandi friend. The two play very nicely together.

Consistency is key in those dungeons, since the trash mobs are all glass cannons. I've also used A.Ra/A.Horus teams, with my max skill swan as a sub to get a consistent x4 multiplier. It's plenty for those monsters. But I think Bastet/Verdandi works better, overall.

I'd love to use A.Shiva, but I'm not sure who a good buddy would be.

E: duh, bestcat


For ARa, I kept going back and forth between either running 2 DKalis or 1 DKali and 1 LKali. Nice part with 2 darks is they're unbindable. Nice part with LKali is it's easier to activate ARa with her leader skill (no hearts on the board to deal with). Depends on how adventurous I felt I guess. lol
Totally jealous of your Kalis. :smallfrown: I love my hypermax DKali, but I need more than one!

Anarion
2015-07-23, 04:24 PM
I'd love to use A.Shiva, but I'm not sure who a good buddy would be.


Working on it! I've got every good sub except for hinokagatsuchi, and I have two Urds and two Cao Caos to sub in as needed, so I'm definitely doing that team when I can make him. Shiva is also the next recipient of my +eggs now that Urd is at +289 (I fell short by 8 hp eggs on last starvault, sadly).

obryn
2015-07-23, 04:39 PM
Working on it! I've got every good sub except for hinokagatsuchi, and I have two Urds and two Cao Caos to sub in as needed, so I'm definitely doing that team when I can make him. Shiva is also the next recipient of my +eggs now that Urd is at +289 (I fell short by 8 hp eggs on last starvault, sadly).

Oh sorry I meant for "no dupes" when I can't have paired leads. I have like a dozen hypermax AShiva already but can always use more!

e: You know if I take Urd off my own team, an Urd buddy would be great too.

Quietus
2015-07-23, 05:05 PM
Working on it! I've got every good sub except for hinokagatsuchi, and I have two Urds and two Cao Caos to sub in as needed, so I'm definitely doing that team when I can make him. Shiva is also the next recipient of my +eggs now that Urd is at +289 (I fell short by 8 hp eggs on last starvault, sadly).

I don't know if my nephew will be adding you, since he has it in his mind to add a Gadius as best friend. "Matching hearts is easy", he says. He has trouble keeping up three combos on a good day. :smallsigh: Ah, nine year olds..

Kauai
2015-07-23, 05:08 PM
Totally your call. I tend to think AKagu's skill is more generally useful (and he's a more generally viable sub and gimmick lead) than AShiva's, but then again, AShiva is more likely to grab a spot on my Ra team in the (oh so unlikely) event I need a defense break.

With that said, I do tend to water my front lawn before weeding the backyard with my PADmons. Shoring up your leader first is more likely to attract and keep hypermax buddies, and it helps more people than just yourself. I was torn between AKagu and AShiva for all of Echidna's +'s, and I'm glad I went with Shiva in the end. Having a +195 skill 3 AShiva will do my friends more good than me having a +195 AKagu.

Yeah, I think AShiva will be my next hypermax target. Hmm...with the current 3x normals, what's the recommended dungeon to run to farm pluses? I hope it's not weekend farming OoH or something as I'm going to a convention this weekend.


Some people are totally sensibly running their hypermax Ronias on their Shiva teams, so that's always an option too. :smallsmile:

You know, I never even considered doing that! It's just that her CD is so long tho...doesn't seem optimal for that team. But maybe the +297 makes up for it? I'll give it a try.


It's 'no dupes' which makes it harder. I was running A.Bastet with a Verdandi friend. The two play very nicely together.

Consistency is key in those dungeons, since the trash mobs are all glass cannons. I've also used A.Ra/A.Horus teams, with my max skill swan as a sub to get a consistent x4 multiplier. It's plenty for those monsters. But I think Bastet/Verdandi works better, overall.

I'd love to use A.Shiva, but I'm not sure who a good buddy would be.

E: duh, bestcat

Exactly, the no dupes is making this rotation a pain (can't use my cheese Rodin team). I heard mention of the Norns being a good choice for it, I think ABastet/Verdandi is one I saw in particular. What's the rest of your build? I'll probably copy you (as usual).


Totally jealous of your Kalis. :smallfrown: I love my hypermax DKali, but I need more than one!

Oh I got very, very lucky. I actually have 3(!) DKalis. In trying to chase Bonia (where I'm still stuck at 1 but at least she's no longer the beast she once was, so it's not a big deal anymore) the Kalis (and oddly enough, Rodin) kept coming my way as far as GFEs went. Over my playing history I actually ended up with a small pile of DMetas as well, so I'm looking forward to the day when the MP thing is introduced to NA so I can finally put them to use. They're 6* so if I sell a couple it will get me a decent ways towards Shiva dragon.


Oh sorry I meant for "no dupes" when I can't have paired leads. I have like a dozen hypermax AShiva already but can always use more!

You must have one badass friend list, man. I've been getting more friend requests lately and have been pretty much accepting them all. I should probably be more selective.

Anarion
2015-07-23, 05:10 PM
Oh sorry I meant for "no dupes" when I can't have paired leads. I have like a dozen hypermax AShiva already but can always use more!

e: You know if I take Urd off my own team, an Urd buddy would be great too.

Urd is pretty solid, especially if you have your own Urd in the sub list since the water multiplier on healing and hp adds a lot. And unconditional attack multiplier so you can just focus on doing your Shiva thing.


I don't know if my nephew will be adding you, since he has it in his mind to add a Gadius as best friend. "Matching hearts is easy", he says. He has trouble keeping up three combos on a good day. :smallsigh: Ah, nine year olds..

Heh, he can still add me too if he wants. Try both and all that. I hope he's not disappointed though, that second heart combo is surprisingly hard to keep going round after round.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-23, 05:29 PM
Yeah, I think AShiva will be my next hypermax target. Hmm...with the current 3x normals, what's the recommended dungeon to run to farm pluses? I hope it's not weekend farming OoH or something as I'm going to a convention this weekend.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/wiki/guides/pluseggfarming

TL;DR:

Limited Stamina: KotG (unless you're Rank 350+, then whichever T6 is on 1.5x drop).
Unlimited stamina (stoning), maximum time efficiency: skydragons.

Sallera
2015-07-23, 07:10 PM
I like pairing DQ/XQ leads for no dupes coin dungeons, since they're so reliable (and hey, it's something to use that hypermax DQ for); been running a fair bit of Alt. Tower of Nature this last rotation. ABastet/Verdandi is probably what I'd use if I ever got around to doing them on the phone account, though.

Anarion
2015-07-23, 07:27 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/wiki/guides/pluseggfarming

TL;DR:

Limited Stamina: KotG (unless you're Rank 350+, then whichever T6 is on 1.5x drop).
Unlimited stamina (stoning), maximum time efficiency: skydragons.

I'm not sure I follow this. He's saying that the difference in overall egg drop rate and +egg drop rate naturally is enough that even when there's a 5x +eggs drop rate in technicals, it's often better to go to KoG instead?

137beth
2015-07-23, 07:36 PM
I like pairing DQ/XQ leads for no dupes coin dungeons, since they're so reliable (and hey, it's something to use that hypermax DQ for); been running a fair bit of Alt. Tower of Nature this last rotation. ABastet/Verdandi is probably what I'd use if I ever got around to doing them on the phone account, though.

I aught to get around to those Alt. __ dungeons. I have the L/L DQ, so I have been running no-duplicate dungeons with DQ//Venus (L/D)/ LKali/Light Valk/ <Other>//XQ
Venus is currently my only decent L/D monster, although eventually I may replace her in the line-up with Hera-Sowilo, Sonia Grand, or the upcoming Zeus & Hera. The 'other' is usually either Mini-SQ, King Shynee, or Echidna. The result is that at least five of my monsters have light main-type, but I still have every color for triggering DQXQ's leader skill.

If I eventually beat Sandolphan, I plan on UVOing my second Venus to the Light/Water form, which has an orb enhance. It could then fill the 'other' slot as a damage booster, giving me an all main-type light team (or allowing me to swap XQ for a second DQ lead and still have every color covered with subattributes).

Quietus
2015-07-23, 08:07 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/wiki/guides/pluseggfarming

TL;DR:

Limited Stamina: KotG (unless you're Rank 350+, then whichever T6 is on 1.5x drop).
Unlimited stamina (stoning), maximum time efficiency: skydragons.

I... have hit the point where KotG is not the best +egg farming spot? Wow. Hadn't realized that.


I like pairing DQ/XQ leads for no dupes coin dungeons, since they're so reliable (and hey, it's something to use that hypermax DQ for); been running a fair bit of Alt. Tower of Nature this last rotation. ABastet/Verdandi is probably what I'd use if I ever got around to doing them on the phone account, though.

I'll definitely be looking at ABastet//Verdandi set, when I have enough worthwhile greens leveled and skilled to do that on my tablet. I'm looking forward to that day! Huh... until then, I should probably do weekend dungeon.


I'm not sure I follow this. He's saying that the difference in overall egg drop rate and +egg drop rate naturally is enough that even when there's a 5x +eggs drop rate in technicals, it's often better to go to KoG instead?

For non-IAP, generally, yes. This is because you will level up so much more often doing KoG, that you get extra stamina and can run more. So for example, two people at rank 150 doing egg hunting during a 1.5x drop Monday, one doing FT4 and one doing KoG. The person doing KoG will get less +eggs per actual stamina spent, but they will level up, getting more stamina - and thus, more runs - so they'll have more opportunities for those eggs to drop. You're stacking the "How many monsters dropped over time?" side of the equation hard enough that the "How many of those monsters had + on them?" side is forced to rise.

Jasmine
2015-07-23, 08:08 PM
Great pic! (Tho that thick haze in the sky is a bit disconcerting. I guess I'm spoiled with the clear skies here in Hawaii.)
Shanghai is usually clear most of the time actually, I'm not sure why there was only one sunny day during my whole trip, and ironically that day had a typhoon (asian hurricane) warning that made everyone cancel all their plans and shut down the public transit..So every pic of mine has a hazy grey sky.


That drops red piis, right? I need a ton of those. What team do you plan to run for that?
Using your Athena team with one of the leaders swapped out for Superman works fine for many of the no dupes. It's quite a bit faster than my old HorusxRa runs, though it makes it feel a lot more like farming than playing. Might be one of the reasons I didn't get bored of farming early on, since it was still stimulating with a combo lead.


I... have hit the point where KotG is not the best +egg farming spot? Wow. Hadn't realized that.
350 is the point for someone who plans on not playing anymore once they get there, since once you get high ranked your rankup exp gets rarer, and your lower ranked counterpart forever gets higher effective stam/day than you do. You stunt your future growth by rushing growth now. Especially for IAPers, who get much of their stam from...external...sources :smallwink:

obryn
2015-07-23, 08:39 PM
Yeah, I think AShiva will be my next hypermax target. Hmm...with the current 3x normals, what's the recommended dungeon to run to farm pluses? I hope it's not weekend farming OoH or something as I'm going to a convention this weekend.
The link covered it, but it's basically whatever T5/T6 is on x1.5, or just KotG, if you're not stoning a bunch.


You know, I never even considered doing that! It's just that her CD is so long tho...doesn't seem optimal for that team. But maybe the +297 makes up for it? I'll give it a try.
Well, when it comes down to it, if you can get her skill up, a field of 50% red 50% black is a pretty good way to get a bunch of combos. The 297 helps a bunch. I wouldn't recommend it if you didn't have her hypermaxed.


Exactly, the no dupes is making this rotation a pain (can't use my cheese Rodin team). I heard mention of the Norns being a good choice for it, I think ABastet/Verdandi is one I saw in particular. What's the rest of your build? I'll probably copy you (as usual).
Yeah, ABastet/Verdandi works very well. AShiva/ABastet worked quite solidly, too, having just tried it tonight. I've gotten about 15 new friends today. :smalleek:


Oh I got very, very lucky. I actually have 3(!) DKalis. In trying to chase Bonia (where I'm still stuck at 1 but at least she's no longer the beast she once was, so it's not a big deal anymore) the Kalis (and oddly enough, Rodin) kept coming my way as far as GFEs went. Over my playing history I actually ended up with a small pile of DMetas as well, so I'm looking forward to the day when the MP thing is introduced to NA so I can finally put them to use. They're 6* so if I sell a couple it will get me a decent ways towards Shiva dragon.
Hate.


You must have one badass friend list, man. I've been getting more friend requests lately and have been pretty much accepting them all. I should probably be more selective.
I'm really well-set, yeah. SA has as great, active PAD community with a lot of high-ranked folks; I have Unknown_PC on my list, for example, who's got all the good monsters. Having a 297 Ra helped a bunch, too; I'm with a bunch of whales. :smallbiggrin:

I'm actually not very selective with the friends I accept. A lot of veterans from SA let me leech of their good leaders early on, and I try to repay the favor by accepting low-ranked folks with iffy leads all the time. I have a 290(?) capacity list, and once in a while I just go and weed out people who haven't been playing for (15/30/60) days, excepting people I actually know IRL.

This most recent "10 randos" thing is going to do wonders.

Quietus
2015-07-23, 08:59 PM
350 is the point for someone who plans on not playing anymore once they get there, since once you get high ranked your rankup exp gets rarer, and your lower ranked counterpart forever gets higher effective stam/day than you do. You stunt your future growth by rushing growth now. Especially for IAPers, who get much of their stam from...external...sources :smallwink:

Yeah, I'm not so worried about ranking up on my phone nowadays. Considering I can comfortably field my A.Anubis//DIza/DIza/Infinity Zaerog/Infinity Zaerog//A.Anubis team, cost-wise, at this point, despite those zaerogs having 99 cost? And honestly, 200 stamina is plenty. Though I do look forward to the day I hit 300 stamina, because then I could in theory not play for a full 24 hours and still not waste stamina. That'd be pretty awesome.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-23, 09:59 PM
I'm not sure I follow this. He's saying that the difference in overall egg drop rate and +egg drop rate naturally is enough that even when there's a 5x +eggs drop rate in technicals, it's often better to go to KoG instead?

Adjusted for increased effective stamina due to rank up refreshes, yes.

obryn
2015-07-23, 11:59 PM
Adjusted for increased effective stamina due to rank up refreshes, yes.
Yep, once you can farm KotG, it's top notch in quite a few ways, Rank XP not the least of them. Takes a while to get there, mind you, but once you can ... welp.

A major advantage to Normals over Technicals is that Normals don't drop pengdra. Pengdra, being Enhance Material, will never show up with a + on their egg. (You can feed them +'s later, of course, but they will never appear like that.)

(If OoH is more your speed, farm it instead, by all means. It's always been known as a great place to get +eggs, even back before +egg dungeons were a thing and +297'd monsters were only owned by mega-whales. What's kind of funny is that I remember when Neptune's 72k defense was a crazy puzzle you needed special monsters and intense planning to get past - Lilith, friend Shivas, gimmick teams with Knights, etc. I fondly remember putting together a Cuchu 9x Wood Balance team specifically for that dungeon. Nowadays, it's child's play to smash him with most teams.)

From everything I understand, the +egg drop rate on 3x Normals is amazing. So if you have no other plans for your stamina this event, this is the best place to spend it.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-24, 01:05 AM
Yep, enhance material monsters never drop with a plus. Awakening material monsters, on the other hand...

Quietus
2015-07-24, 06:41 AM
Yep, enhance material monsters never drop with a plus. Awakening material monsters, on the other hand...

Yup, I've gotten two or three +Tamadra from running Fagan.

Sallera
2015-07-24, 07:03 AM
7/23 on Sparkles skillups. :smallbiggrin: Only took me 9 stones and a rank up to get them both to max; that's a lot better than the 20 I was expecting (and didn't have). Looks like I'll get to do some good +egg farming this event after all.

Quietus
2015-07-24, 07:39 AM
7/23 on Sparkles skillups. :smallbiggrin: Only took me 9 stones and a rank up to get them both to max; that's a lot better than the 20 I was expecting (and didn't have). Looks like I'll get to do some good +egg farming this event after all.

Sweet, congratulations!

::Edit:: Evo Carnival wasn't so great for me so far. Both accounts had 75+ pulls stored plus two of the 2k pal point rewards, and of everything they each pulled, 99% of what they got was excess materials. Lots of golds, but my tablet wanted some blue dragon fruit or gold keepers, and instead got seven or so mystic masks. My phone wanted mostly jewels, and despite 95 regular pulls saved up and the two 2k boosts, did not get a single jewel. It did get two keeper of gold in its first ten pulls, which really just rubbed salt in the wound - if I had those on my tablet, I would now have ult Goemon and Kali. The most useful thing I got on either account? Tablet got two jewels, which will one day be useful for Ult Karin, I guess. My phone got a single dark divine mask, which I was hoping for so I could evolve Durga for my girlfriend's use.

obryn
2015-07-24, 09:02 AM
I got a gold keeper and a rainbow keeper, which will save me 80 stamina, I suppose.

What I need more than anything right now, though, are red-lits. Not the dubs. The little guys.

Quietus
2015-07-24, 10:07 AM
I got a gold keeper and a rainbow keeper, which will save me 80 stamina, I suppose.

What I need more than anything right now, though, are red-lits. Not the dubs. The little guys.

When I'm low on those lits, I'll use the low level dungeons as a stamina sink, to collect PAL points from best friends who added me that I wouldn't otherwise use. Seems to work out decently well.

Erloas
2015-07-24, 10:16 AM
So I feel a bit stupid this morning. Decided to pull the PAL machine with my 10k points (50 pulls) for some rare evo material. I pulled 20, and having seen only 1 gold (tamadra) I stopped and looked again, apparently this is the special 500 point evo only machine. Didn't even think about seeing a 3rd machine, with so many collab machines recently.
Ended up with a blue and green mask and a red jewel. 7 of the stupid blue masks, only need one more green (and some leveling up and evo'ing) for BestCat.

Of course what I had been missing for a while was dub-topalits, and I went from 0 to 3. Two of those were from Friday in search of a dub-myth for Cao Cao.

obryn
2015-07-24, 10:23 AM
I just got 3 +eggs out of 5 drops on Jupiter City In the Sky / Isolated City in the Sky. :smalleek:

First impressions? 3x normals is :smallcool:

Fax Celestis
2015-07-24, 10:47 AM
3x Normals is love. I will show a pic of my haul when I finish, but as of right now it's fantastic.

obryn
2015-07-24, 11:46 AM
3x Normals is love. I will show a pic of my haul when I finish, but as of right now it's fantastic.
My luck has plummeted. Still probably just as good as Star Vault per stamina, but :smallfrown:

Fax Celestis
2015-07-24, 12:34 PM
One bar of stamina on KoG:
http://i.imgur.com/cAw3Zpi.jpg

obryn
2015-07-24, 12:38 PM
One bar of stamina on KoG:
http://i.imgur.com/cAw3Zpi.jpg
Awesome. :smallsmile:

I am running x1.5 drops on T5 and T6 today, myself. This weekend will be KotGfest.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-24, 01:02 PM
Oh snap, I should be doing that. Whoops. EDIT: Actually due to rank XP probably not.

Erloas
2015-07-24, 01:23 PM
Isn't that last stage usually the best? Better drops from being harder and more floors? Or is it a loss because of the sub-boss floors? At any rate 3 runs of Jupiter: Lightning Dragons of the Skies has netted me exactly 0 +eggs and a dub-topalit.


The 2 free stones for each of the dragon infestations is going to be nice.

Sallera
2015-07-24, 01:37 PM
Last stage is 7 drop floors / 17 stam, as opposed to 5 / 14 for the others, so stam-wise, yes, it's more efficient. Lower floors can be done with ROdin/Goemon teams though, which is much more time-efficient.

Erloas
2015-07-24, 01:40 PM
I'm running an Athena team, I can match an sub-color mass attack and clear most stages and a TPA with one or two other combos will clear the sub bosses and boss. I don't see how Goemon could be much faster.

Sallera
2015-07-24, 01:46 PM
Not a traditional Goemon team, just the challenge mode(/Kauai) version with 5 max skill ROdin subs. Clear floors 1-6 with actives, swipe to kill boss. (I've never actually used it myself as I lack the friends, but still, actives are faster than comboing, however trivial the combos.)

Otravyat
2015-07-24, 01:47 PM
I'm running an Athena team, I can match an sub-color mass attack and clear most stages and a TPA with one or two other combos will clear the sub bosses and boss. I don't see how Goemon could be much faster.

Its cause ROdin all you do is click the actives. Substantially faster than having to match and watch orbs bounce.

Anarion
2015-07-24, 01:49 PM
I need one jewel of fire and Leilan just refuses to invade for me. Soon as I get that I'm dumping all my stamina into KoG, which I've got down to a guaranteed clear. I desire the +eggs.

Oh, also though, make sure you do the red dragon dungeons today. They're NEW, meaning it's 70 stamina for 2 magic stones!!!!

Edit: and suddenly Leilan first round invade. I swear, griping here is a good luck charm. :smallbiggrin:

obryn
2015-07-24, 02:26 PM
Oh, also though, make sure you do the red dragon dungeons today. They're NEW, meaning it's 70 stamina for 2 magic stones!!!!
I was just coming here to post about that!

Yeah, it's pretty awesome. It'll amount to 10 stones for 700 stamina before it's all said and done, and it's hard to say no to that.

Jurai
2015-07-24, 03:11 PM
Does anybody have any advice for a player who's hit a stonewall at Tower of Flare? I'm about ready to quit the game entirely because I can't deal enough damage or heal enough damage to survive it, and I have no mats for UVOing an Ogre.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-24, 03:12 PM
Can we see your box?

Anarion
2015-07-24, 04:19 PM
Does anybody have any advice for a player who's hit a stonewall at Tower of Flare? I'm about ready to quit the game entirely because I can't deal enough damage or heal enough damage to survive it, and I have no mats for UVOing an Ogre.


Can we see your box?

What Fax said. At the least, who's your main leader?

In general, tower of flare and the dungeons around that level can present a serious challenge, but they're a challenge that can be overcome through farming for a week or so while you simply level up all your monsters to get more stats. The masks and lits for first ogre evolution can be obtained from the earlier dungeons (just google them), so you can farm those, and the keeper for the ultimate ogre evolutions is available on Tuesday and should be possible for you to clear, though if not, again just farming some experience will get you there.

Jasmine
2015-07-24, 05:29 PM
7 of the stupid blue masks, only need one more green (and some leveling up and evo'ing) for BestCat.
I have 11 blue masks, 32 blue fruits, 29 green fruits, and 16 angelits, with 0 greenmask/redfruit/devilit @@


I'm running an Athena team, I can match an sub-color mass attack and clear most stages and a TPA with one or two other combos will clear the sub bosses and boss. I don't see how Goemon could be much faster.
A goemon team runs <1-minute INCLUDING dungeon selection, friend selection, and clear screen. Just think of it as what's faster, 0+0+0+0+0+0+1=1 combo or 1+1+1+1+1+3+3= 11 combos? For anyone with limited playing time and/or stoning for stam, that 30-60 seconds saved per run adds up quickly - it's the difference between getting 60+ an hour vs 30.


Does anybody have any advice for a player who's hit a stonewall at Tower of Flare? I'm about ready to quit the game entirely because I can't deal enough damage or heal enough damage to survive it, and I have no mats for UVOing an Ogre.
Are you stuck on the ifrit? (red dragon that you do one damage to). If so, you'll either need to use a higher multiplier lead, or bring along lilith/copperhead/ghostring/poison ivy/firekillerogre/ufo/darkseid/ra/whatever poison/flat damage user/anything that hits for more than 36k. Friend Grodin/Rodin/Luci/UltGoemon/Satan works fine, or evolved lil blue dragon

Anarion
2015-07-24, 05:59 PM
I have 11 blue masks, 32 blue fruits, 29 green fruits, and 16 angelits, with 0 greenmask/redfruit/devilit @@


I've started feeding some of my green/blue fruits for xp and to free up box space, on the theory that by the time I farm up enough red fruits to max skill my double Ronia double Urd and evolve my second Cao Cao plus whatever else I have that needs red fruits to evolve, I'll have enough blue/green fruits to max skill any Norns or Sonias I happen to pull in the meantime.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-24, 06:33 PM
So I did effectively two bars of stamina on KotG today due to a rank-up, which translated to +18 to Lu Bu, or ~19 stamina per plus.

Correction, +19, or 18.1/plus.

Jurai
2015-07-24, 08:01 PM
What Fax said. At the least, who's your main leader?

In general, tower of flare and the dungeons around that level can present a serious challenge, but they're a challenge that can be overcome through farming for a week or so while you simply level up all your monsters to get more stats. The masks and lits for first ogre evolution can be obtained from the earlier dungeons (just google them), so you can farm those, and the keeper for the ultimate ogre evolutions is available on Tuesday and should be possible for you to clear, though if not, again just farming some experience will get you there.

https://www.padherder.com/user/JuraiGitP/monsters/#31,0,31,2047,268435455,0,,0,0,0,eq,0,0,0,0,;defau lt,0

My main lead is Shinra Sacred Dragon God Saiga (G/Y), at level 35, and my other leader at this point is my fail as all get out Ogre, since I still need three Sapphilits, a Mythlit, and a Keeper of Water. I have one Sapphilit, and that's going to Ice Golem, as soon as I get Evolution and Demon Masks in Blue for him. Sorry, but BLUE MECH GENERAL, MAR MIDGARD (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1273) is the ultimate I want right now. I've got a Megalodran at 32, no Awakens or +s, Shinra Soul Beast Sai at 30, with a +1 in health and Max awakes, and support trash.

obryn
2015-07-24, 08:33 PM
https://www.padherder.com/user/JuraiGitP/monsters/#31,0,31,2047,268435455,0,,0,0,0,eq,0,0,0,0,;defau lt,0

My main lead is Shinra Sacred Dragon God Saiga (G/Y), at level 35, and my other leader at this point is my fail as all get out Ogre, since I still need three Sapphilits, a Mythlit, and a Keeper of Water. I have one Sapphilit, and that's going to Ice Golem, as soon as I get Evolution and Demon Masks in Blue for him. Sorry, but BLUE MECH GENERAL, MAR MIDGARD (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1273) is the ultimate I want right now. I've got a Megalodran at 32, no Awakens or +s, Shinra Soul Beast Sai at 30, with a +1 in health and Max awakes, and support trash.
I think that's the problem... What was your starter? I don't see anything that will allow you to advance in the game yet. You basically have two options if you want to get past Tower of Flare - whale or reroll in the next godfest. I strongly recommend the latter. :smallfrown:

The OP has some reroll tier lists and guides for new players. This is why we put them there - to make sure you don't get stuck in the early game.

Jurai
2015-07-24, 08:36 PM
I'm going to whale. I mean, heck, if I can get the mats needed to Ult straight into BLUE MECH GENERAL, MAR MIDGARD, then hey, I've got something tank enough to shred anything until about the next normal dungeon tier, if not beyond that. And my Starter was Tyran.

obryn
2015-07-24, 08:50 PM
I'm going to whale. I mean, heck, if I can get the mats needed to Ult straight into BLUE MECH GENERAL, MAR MIDGARD, then hey, I've got something tank enough to shred anything until about the next normal dungeon tier, if not beyond that. And my Starter was Tyran.
Midgard really isn't worth keeping an account over. You will get more golems, trust me.

I meant - who was your free REM pull?

I am saying this out of friendship. What you have now, you can get back. Well, except Saiga, but he's not too useful. Any lead from the reroll tier list will have more longevity. Save yourself money. Get a good starter roll, and you will get back what you have in a few days. Take the fact that you're stalled out as a sign that what you're doing isn't working.

If - IF - you spend money, spend it on 1. Box space, and 2. Godfest - and ONLY GODFEST - rolls. Not stamina refills, not friends. But you will be spending real money with no guarantee of a good leader, and may end up right back in the same place. If you really want to spend money, *reroll for a good starter first*. And please please read the starter guides linked on the OP. Ask everyone here what a difference a great starter makes.

I want to help even though I know this isn't what you want to hear.

Otravyat
2015-07-24, 10:03 PM
When did Legendary Skyway get added? Was that in the maintenance?

Id second Obryn. Especially if you add in the fact that you intend to whale, you can get back to where you are and easily further in a week or two. And a good leader will blow past tower of flare.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-24, 10:11 PM
Yep, skyway got added with the maintenance.

obryn
2015-07-24, 10:16 PM
When did Legendary Skyway get added? Was that in the maintenance?

Don't do it unless you are certain you can one-shot the 7m hp boss. He has both a combo shield and a damage ceiling after that - in other words, "lol"

Anarion
2015-07-24, 11:47 PM
I'm going to whale. I mean, heck, if I can get the mats needed to Ult straight into BLUE MECH GENERAL, MAR MIDGARD, then hey, I've got something tank enough to shred anything until about the next normal dungeon tier, if not beyond that. And my Starter was Tyran.

Listen to Obryn. It looks like you don't have a starter at all. You know when you rolled on the gold dragon machine after completing the tutorial, I'm guessing you got the golem? Or you got something and fed it to something else for some reason maybe? Whatever it was, you have no team leader that will take you through the game and it's not worth spending any money at all. The next godfest will be soon I think, it's been a couple weeks since one already. When it comes, uninstall and start over until you get one of the good starter gods. Really, check out the list in the OP. It makes such a huge difference.


Don't do it unless you are certain you can one-shot the 7m hp boss. He has both a combo shield and a damage ceiling after that - in other words, "lol"

ahahahaha, no.

edit: Which is not to say I couldn't do the 1-shot, but screw the legendary whatever dungeons. They're so annoying.

Otravyat
2015-07-25, 03:20 AM
Listen to Obryn. It looks like you don't have a starter at all. You know when you rolled on the gold dragon machine after completing the tutorial, I'm guessing you got the golem? Or you got something and fed it to something else for some reason maybe? Whatever it was, you have no team leader that will take you through the game and it's not worth spending any money at all. The next godfest will be soon I think, it's been a couple weeks since one already. When it comes, uninstall and start over until you get one of the good starter gods. Really, check out the list in the OP. It makes such a huge difference.



ahahahaha, no.

edit: Which is not to say I couldn't do the 1-shot, but screw the legendary whatever dungeons. They're so annoying.

I love legendary seaway. Fun no RCV dungeon.

Starwulf
2015-07-25, 03:47 AM
Midgard really isn't worth keeping an account over. You will get more golems, trust me.

I meant - who was your free REM pull?

I am saying this out of friendship. What you have now, you can get back. Well, except Saiga, but he's not too useful. Any lead from the reroll tier list will have more longevity. Save yourself money. Get a good starter roll, and you will get back what you have in a few days. Take the fact that you're stalled out as a sign that what you're doing isn't working.

If - IF - you spend money, spend it on 1. Box space, and 2. Godfest - and ONLY GODFEST - rolls. Not stamina refills, not friends. But you will be spending real money with no guarantee of a good leader, and may end up right back in the same place. If you really want to spend money, *reroll for a good starter first*. And please please read the starter guides linked on the OP. Ask everyone here what a difference a great starter makes.

I want to help even though I know this isn't what you want to hear.

This is so very, very true. I'm one of the original members of this thread, and man I wish I had heard this advice when I started(I was already 3 months into the game by the time the first thread popped up here on GITP). My Starter was(well, back then anyways) a crap dragon knight(arthur I believe), and I was constantly stalling out every new tier. I eventually got lucky during a Godfest and snagged first a GrOdin whom I used to cheese my way through several of the easier descends, and then eventually rolled a Horus who literally made ALL the difference. If all you have to worry about losing is a Blue Golem and Saiga, trust us when we say "wait till the next godfest, delete your acct, start over and keep doing that until you get a good starter god. If you want to spend lots of money after that, go for it, it can only help, but use that guaranteed free pull to insure yourself at least one good god that can take you into at least late-mid game if not early end-game.

obryn
2015-07-25, 07:03 AM
I, too, started with a really bad starter because nobody told me otherwise. Check the cute little dude in my avatar - he was it, and now he's a survey dungeon drop. :smallsmile:

I stalled out, too, spending more money than I should have in random non-godfest REM rolls, continues, and the like. I eventually switched to ADK which was decent enough in the game at the time, but eh...

Anyway! Let's say you are really stubborn like I was and just don't want to reroll. I get it - I've been there, too, and the sunk cost fallacy is a hell of a thing. If that describes you, here's a way forward with Saiga, but please please please save up magic stones for future godfests.

Option 1 (2012 style):
(1) Start using Tyrra. The starter dragons eventually evolve into decent enough leaders. Stack your team with Red monsters, which definitely means no Saiga. Midgard can stay for now for the HP sink.
(2) Make friends with other Red multiplier leads. Ares, Freyr, Shiva, and other Tyrras.
(3) Get a team of red goblins. Evolve them to their final form.
(4) Keep evolving Tyrra.
(5) Farm for a Gigas and an Echidna, eventually Ult Evo Tyrra.

Option 2 (2013 style):
(1) Keep with Saiga and start stacking your team with dragons.
(2) Make friends with Ancient Dragon Knight (or Ancient Dragon Knight Zeal) friends
(3) Farm for an Ancient Dragon Knight and use it as your lead. Evolve up the Ripper Dragon series.

Both of these will be rather painfully slow, but both are possible. SAVE YOUR FREE STONES. Spend stones only on box space and on Godfest rolls.

Quietus
2015-07-25, 08:11 AM
I, too, started with a really bad starter because nobody told me otherwise. Check the cute little dude in my avatar - he was it, and now he's a survey dungeon drop. :smallsmile:

I stalled out, too, spending more money than I should have in random non-godfest REM rolls, continues, and the like. I eventually switched to ADK which was decent enough in the game at the time, but eh...

Anyway! Let's say you are really stubborn like I was and just don't want to reroll. I get it - I've been there, too, and the sunk cost fallacy is a hell of a thing. If that describes you, here's a way forward with Saiga, but please please please save up magic stones for future godfests.

Option 1 (2012 style):
(1) Start using Tyrra. The starter dragons eventually evolve into decent enough leaders. Stack your team with Red monsters, which definitely means no Saiga. Midgard can stay for now for the HP sink.
(2) Make friends with other Red multiplier leads. Ares, Freyr, Shiva, and other Tyrras.
(3) Get a team of red goblins. Evolve them to their final form.
(4) Keep evolving Tyrra.
(5) Farm for a Gigas and an Echidna, eventually Ult Evo Tyrra.

Option 2 (2013 style):
(1) Keep with Saiga and start stacking your team with dragons.
(2) Make friends with Ancient Dragon Knight (or Ancient Dragon Knight Zeal) friends
(3) Farm for an Ancient Dragon Knight and use it as your lead. Evolve up the Ripper Dragon series.

Both of these will be rather painfully slow, but both are possible. SAVE YOUR FREE STONES. Spend stones only on box space and on Godfest rolls.

I had the advantage of being told to reroll, and I got a card that was very similar to Saiga - I went with Gronia (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=914), who is basically superior in every way, and she was still a very difficult leader to use. I've since hypermaxed her, and even with that, she's been retired because she just doesn't carry the oomph needed. Saiga will hit that ceiling much earlier.

In other news, I just looked at the Japan announcements. The new series of gods looks pretty neat, I would be happy to play around with them. But then I saw AWOKEN OROCHI. Also, Awoken Susano, Apollo, and Okunushi. But OROCHI. I may be willing to un-evolve him from his current TPA-tastic form, depending on what they do. And he goes B/G, so he may be easier to use, as his current B/R form just doesn't fit nicely into a lot of teams.

Now, of course, I have to get freaking Tengu...

Otravyat
2015-07-25, 11:08 AM
I had the advantage of being told to reroll, and I got a card that was very similar to Saiga - I went with Gronia (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=914), who is basically superior in every way, and she was still a very difficult leader to use. I've since hypermaxed her, and even with that, she's been retired because she just doesn't carry the oomph needed. Saiga will hit that ceiling much earlier.

In other news, I just looked at the Japan announcements. The new series of gods looks pretty neat, I would be happy to play around with them. But then I saw AWOKEN OROCHI. Also, Awoken Susano, Apollo, and Okunushi. But OROCHI. I may be willing to un-evolve him from his current TPA-tastic form, depending on what they do. And he goes B/G, so he may be easier to use, as his current B/R form just doesn't fit nicely into a lot of teams.

Now, of course, I have to get freaking Tengu...

Hmmm split Apollo gaining another TPa and two rows. Persephone treatment.

I'm taking split okuni to mean that we may be getting split U&Y soon. Surprised they did okuni first from J2..

Fax Celestis
2015-07-25, 12:45 PM
For ABastet, do you guys think Leeza or Thumbelina is a better sub? Thumbelina has better awakenings and ATK, but Leeza has better HP (something all my modeled ABastet teams have had issues with) and a slightly faster skill if it's max skilled, and her skill makes wood orbs instead of a heartmake.

Sallera
2015-07-25, 03:49 PM
I love this event. Finished hypermaxing DKali and already started on ARa. Actual play time is becoming the biggest limiting factor; I really need to find some more ROdin friends so I can run the cheese team.


For ABastet, do you guys think Leeza or Thumbelina is a better sub? Thumbelina has better awakenings and ATK, but Leeza has better HP (something all my modeled ABastet teams have had issues with) and a slightly faster skill if it's max skilled, and her skill makes wood orbs instead of a heartmake.

I'd use Leeza when you don't need the bind clear, both for the HP and the more useful active.

Anarion
2015-07-25, 04:25 PM
I love this event. Finished hypermaxing DKali and already started on ARa. Actual play time is becoming the biggest limiting factor; I really need to find some more ROdin friends so I can run the cheese team.


Yeah that. I'm done with Urd now and in a day I've picked up another 20 +eggs and several more ranks. Might get Shiva at least into the mid 50s, perhaps.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-25, 04:29 PM
Yeah, me too. I haven't spent a single stone and I've gotten Lu Bu from +102 to +136 and pushed a bunch of trash XP into some of my chibier monsters.

Now I'm looking forward to Blue Cat Dragon, for Nut skill ups. Sarasvati will be so, so happy.

obryn
2015-07-25, 06:49 PM
Yeah I think Shiva might get 297d before this weekend is up.

Also, I'm convinced. Thief teams FTW. So easy on KotG.

Quietus
2015-07-25, 09:10 PM
So, I've managed to beat Starlight Sanctuary on my tablet now! Next step is making it more reliable to beat, preferably via Goemon. Probably going to involve farming and skilling up a fire Mechdragon.

On the phone, I just finished leveling up my last Starling; I now have a max level, max awoken, max skilled Starling, without using a single Bubpy. Of course, now I have four Bubpy sitting around...

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-25, 09:38 PM
Took me 3 stones but managed to get Guan Yingpin down on mythical (figured if I was going to be stoning I might as well do the version that guaranteed me her).
Pretty much got carried by my hastily ult. evolved/awoken LKali and a hypermax LKali friend for the most part. Echidna, Double Maxius and Soul Beast Izuna were just sitting around to meet the colour req and for delay/extra burst since I didn't have any proper leveled stuff that were eligible other than Echidna.

Will probably spend most of today praying for MeiMei invades while running Zhao Yun since I still need 2 more jewels before I can get my Awoken MeiMei.

Quietus
2015-07-25, 11:13 PM
Took me 3 stones but managed to get Guan Yingpin down on mythical (figured if I was going to be stoning I might as well do the version that guaranteed me her).
Pretty much got carried by my hastily ult. evolved/awoken LKali and a hypermax LKali friend for the most part. Echidna, Double Maxius and Soul Beast Izuna were just sitting around to meet the colour req and for delay/extra burst since I didn't have any proper leveled stuff that were eligible other than Echidna.

Will probably spend most of today praying for MeiMei invades while running Zhao Yun since I still need 2 more jewels before I can get my Awoken MeiMei.

Yeah, tomorrow is all Zhao Yun for me too. Less for the invades, though those would be nice, but rather for mini GZL to skill things up. Now that I think about it, I wonder if I can handle that dungeon with my Awoken Bastet team on the tablet, they could use some GZL skill ups too...

::Edit:: And I now have a +181 Dragon Rider, King Arthur. Feeling pretty swanky about that, he's creeping up on where I left Fuma off at. And conveniently, he's getting a lot more +atk than +hp/rcv, which matches perfectly with Fuma being far lower on it. If this keeps up, they should even out nicely.

obryn
2015-07-26, 12:11 AM
x3 normals is kinda cool.


http://i.imgur.com/mSiimr9.jpg

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-26, 02:59 AM
Change of plans, I will be farming +eggs on KoG like everyone else.

Zhao Yun Legend #1 - 0 stone, rank up.
Zhao Yun Mythical #1 - Meimei invades floor 1, 0 stone clear
Zeus-Deos Mythical #1 - Meimei invades floor 1, 0 stone clear

150 stam, 30 minutes spent for 2 magic stones and 2 Wood Jewels. Thank you RNGesus :smallbiggrin:

Anarion
2015-07-26, 03:05 AM
I'm a little confused. Meimei can invade either big dungeon today, right?

Fleeing Coward
2015-07-26, 03:11 AM
I'm a little confused. Meimei can invade either big dungeon today, right?

Yeah, Meimei can invade either descend today. Got her invading on my first run through both mythicals so it frees me up to go back to +egg farming.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to actually get Awoken Meimei until later in the week since I'm missing a Green Keeper and a Dub-topalit for Zhao Yun.

Starwulf
2015-07-26, 04:03 AM
So, haven't been around lately, how is everyone doing? Have I missed much on PAD? I've logged in maybe twice in the last well...I think I'm nearing a month at this point. Just got frustrated with the game, plateaued with what I was capable of completing. Couldn't do the harder stuff with Horus, even when I fully activated him I was always dying to stuff that one-shotted me, and obviously poor Lmeta can only go so far.

Quietus
2015-07-26, 08:23 AM
Change of plans, I will be farming +eggs on KoG like everyone else.

Zhao Yun Legend #1 - 0 stone, rank up.
Zhao Yun Mythical #1 - Meimei invades floor 1, 0 stone clear
Zeus-Deos Mythical #1 - Meimei invades floor 1, 0 stone clear

150 stam, 30 minutes spent for 2 magic stones and 2 Wood Jewels. Thank you RNGesus :smallbiggrin:

All I can say is this - hell yes, and congrats! I'm thinking I may do an hour of Tamadra Village prior to doing anything else today, I have a lot of things I want to Awaken, and having Fuma carrying two blind resists would potentially make Zhao Yun easier, 40% of the time.


So, haven't been around lately, how is everyone doing? Have I missed much on PAD? I've logged in maybe twice in the last well...I think I'm nearing a month at this point. Just got frustrated with the game, plateaued with what I was capable of completing. Couldn't do the harder stuff with Horus, even when I fully activated him I was always dying to stuff that one-shotted me, and obviously poor Lmeta can only go so far.

Very well! Those of us who stuck around seem to be clearing a lot more content. We got the Awoken Egyptians, and people are wiping the floor with stuff using them. There's been other ults released as well, new content, and of course Scarlet Snake Princess is available right now, which is always fantastic. Plus the whole mess of stuff happening in Japan.. latent awakenings, monster points, Shiva dragon, Scarlet.. and recently they announced AWOKEN OROCHI, which I am unreasonably excited for.

::Edit:: Also, I just basically fumbled my way through Zhao Yun legend and got the drop; I think I'm going to try Mythical at some point, if I don't keep screwing up I think I should be able to take that, too. :smallbiggrin:

Sallera
2015-07-26, 09:11 AM
So, haven't been around lately, how is everyone doing? Have I missed much on PAD? I've logged in maybe twice in the last well...I think I'm nearing a month at this point. Just got frustrated with the game, plateaued with what I was capable of completing. Couldn't do the harder stuff with Horus, even when I fully activated him I was always dying to stuff that one-shotted me, and obviously poor Lmeta can only go so far.

Well, since Horus has his awoken ult now, you might want to give that a try. It might not be quite as powerful as ARa or ABastet, but it's still pretty nice.

+egg drops have been rather disappointing so far today, but I did at least clear the Easiest Challenge Mode Ever (aka Legendary Earth) when I misjudged how much rank xp I had left. Need to burn through all my stones so I can get back to working on my thesis. <<;;

Edit: Also, Challenge Descended tomorrow. I can finally max skill ARa. :smallsmile:

Fax Celestis
2015-07-26, 12:40 PM
Lu Bu is up +43 now, to +145. Still haven't spent a stone. Delicious. Also I'll have enough for three pulls at godfest, maybe four dependent upon which dragon invasion dungeons show up.

obryn
2015-07-26, 01:00 PM
Descend challenges are the best challenges.

Quietus
2015-07-26, 01:47 PM
Descend challenges are the best challenges.

They are! They drop the bosses from them, too, if memory serves? This is a great opportunity! Plus my phone will be able to max skill both Arthur and Goemon, and will get another woodpy into Bastet. She'll be one step from max skill, very happy about that. And given that I have a pretty solid set of subs for her, I may actually look at plussing her at some point. Currently using A.Bastet//GZL/Verdandi/Liu Bei/A.Meimei//A.Bastet for Zhao Yun, it works really really well. I love being able to pop Verdandi to wipe out Divinegon without any risk of dark orbs except skyfall. Assuming that I get enough wood orbs to do the damage needed, of course. :smalltongue:

obryn
2015-07-26, 02:00 PM
Yep, all drops are as normal. Which means you have like a dozen descends at once. And most descends are less BS than most normal challenge dungeons.

Wadatsumi is harder than you remember though. :)

Fax Celestis
2015-07-26, 03:22 PM
Lu Bu is up +43 now, to +145. Still haven't spent a stone. Delicious. Also I'll have enough for three pulls at godfest, maybe four dependent upon which dragon invasion dungeons show up.

Update: ranked up, another bar, now +158, for a total of +56 so far.

Also managed to get another skill up on Artemis while I was burning extra stamina that would've been lost on a rank up. Two more for her and then I can start on the other one. I am super eager for her split ult, and I'm betting it's going to be G/D God/Attacker or God/Devil, hopefully another 2 row/2 TPA like Apollo and Persephone. I wouldn't say no to 3 TPA though.

Looked at challenge descended, I think I can take most of them but for the highest echelons. I know I've done the majority of them in the real descends, anyway.

Quietus
2015-07-26, 03:31 PM
Ugh. So I've just realized that I currently have a hit list for my phone consisting of :

Scarlet Snake Princess (Monday)
Challenge Descended (obviously)
Water Cat Dragon (Skill up Nut and Muse)
Thursday dungeon (Green, red dragon fruits)
Friday dungeon (Angelits)
Sonia Gran (Sonia, 4 dark jewels)

Plus I need to pick up a jewel of fire, jewel of water, and probably a jewel of wood or three depending on Awoken Susano's materials. Why do I IAP? Because I have things I want to do every day of the week, and other stuff on top of that.

Jasmine
2015-07-26, 10:56 PM
So, haven't been around lately, how is everyone doing? Have I missed much on PAD? Couldn't do the harder stuff with Horus, even when I fully activated him I was always dying to stuff that one-shotted me, and obviously poor Lmeta can only go so far.
http://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t34.0-12/11798272_2932339661651_830398771_n.jpg?oh=5b0003e8 235659097f9326a787b1197f&oe=55B7D80D
PS: Otra did you finish yet :smallwink:

Starwulf
2015-07-26, 11:01 PM
http://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t34.0-12/11798272_2932339661651_830398771_n.jpg?oh=5b0003e8 235659097f9326a787b1197f&oe=55B7D80D
PS: Otra did you finish yet :smallwink:

Is that an all Devil team? If so who are the first and second guys? 2nd one looks like a form of Hades, but it's been a while since I've paid attention to a Hades. I'm guessing that's because of Awoken Horus' devil powerup?

Jasmine
2015-07-26, 11:16 PM
Is that an all Devil team? If so who are the first and second guys? 2nd one looks like a form of Hades, but it's been a while since I've paid attention to a Hades. I'm guessing that's because of Awoken Horus' devil powerup?
Yeah it's all devils, first guy is Gryps rider (wow someone uses a rider!), and second one is Awoken Hades. The team does a pretty insane amount of damage on skill activation, and many of the members have short cooldowns (Horus 4 turn x2, Vamp 5 turn, Beelz 6 turn, Gryps 7 turn, AHades slowest at 13 turns but brings a time extend to ensure boss kill)

http://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t34.0-12/11793422_2932364822280_1985725426_n.jpg?oh=a609883 8b025d773a6bf7af098f2a463&oe=55B8B702
Now imagine if I had a Durga :smallwink:

obryn
2015-07-26, 11:33 PM
http://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t34.0-12/11798272_2932339661651_830398771_n.jpg?oh=5b0003e8 235659097f9326a787b1197f&oe=55B7D80D
PS: Otra did you finish yet :smallwink:
Whoooa. Congrats, Jasmine :smallbiggrin:

My Ra team fluctuates so much that I don't know who to 297 next on it, now that the only two core members - A.Ra and DKali are hypermaxed. (The answer is: "The LKali and/or A.Isis I don't have yet." :smallsigh:) So I'm working on maxing out my new A.Shiva team. Shiva himself got finished up yesterday, and now I'm working on A.Kagu because I also use him for Star Vault farming.

I checked the Challenge Dungeons and man ... I am considering bringing Shiva to the 99-stamina ones instead of Ra.

Otravyat
2015-07-26, 11:33 PM
http://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t34.0-12/11798272_2932339661651_830398771_n.jpg?oh=5b0003e8 235659097f9326a787b1197f&oe=55B7D80D
PS: Otra did you finish yet :smallwink:

Finish hypermaxing? Not yet, I'm about 330 eggs away. I've actually slowed down plus' quite a lot recently, while I got first DMeta and then Hathor off the ground from scratch. Lot of stones for experience, not many for plus' because I havent been playing nearly as much in terms of time. I'm getting back into it though. I'll have U&Y #2 maxed this event from normals, and then just Durga remains.

I did uvo my Durga and Cao Cao in the past few days. Don't really have a use for Cao Cao right now even with max skill, but Durga is on multiple teams. She is definitely the next plus egg target.

obryn
2015-07-26, 11:37 PM
Yeah it's all devils, first guy is Gryps rider (wow someone uses a rider!)
Hey, Dino Rider is a regular on my Shiva team. Great offense, fast orb change, and prongs.

The Riders are fairly good on A.Ra teams, too.

Quietus
2015-07-26, 11:43 PM
Yeah it's all devils, first guy is Gryps rider (wow someone uses a rider!), and second one is Awoken Hades. The team does a pretty insane amount of damage on skill activation, and many of the members have short cooldowns (Horus 4 turn x2, Vamp 5 turn, Beelz 6 turn, Gryps 7 turn, AHades slowest at 13 turns but brings a time extend to ensure boss kill)

http://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t34.0-12/11793422_2932364822280_1985725426_n.jpg?oh=a609883 8b025d773a6bf7af098f2a463&oe=55B8B702
Now imagine if I had a Durga :smallwink:

I use Riders on several teams - in fact, I'm going to finish max skilling Arthur tomorrow with the Challenge stuff. The real interesting thing here, to me, is that you think Durga is better than Horus? Or do you mean Durga as a sub in place of something?

Jasmine
2015-07-26, 11:59 PM
I use Riders on several teams - in fact, I'm going to finish max skilling Arthur tomorrow with the Challenge stuff. The real interesting thing here, to me, is that you think Durga is better than Horus? Or do you mean Durga as a sub in place of something?
By use I actually mean hypermax, although my habits are admittedly very weird (5 of my 11 farmable @@)

I would rather use Durga than Vampire. Actually, I don't like this team very much for the sole reason of the members all being ugly. Echi, Herais, Valk, and Kirin were much cuter. I may just stick with running the manly men (Goemon+Gigas+Rodin).

Anarion
2015-07-27, 12:43 AM
I use beast rider as a flex sub for Urd for when I need 100% skill lock resist. I wish he weren't water primary, but using him with Cao Cao and an orb enhance is stupidly high burst.

obryn
2015-07-27, 08:29 AM
Uh.

So, I tried Awoken Shiva with the two 99-stamina descends. And um.

http://i.imgur.com/ytkdtrB.jpg

It was complete and utter lollerskates. I can hardly imagine a lower-effort team for them.

Quietus
2015-07-27, 08:45 AM
Uh.

So, I tried Awoken Shiva with the two 99-stamina descends. And um.

http://i.imgur.com/ytkdtrB.jpg

It was complete and utter lollerskates. I can hardly imagine a lower-effort team for them.

Yeah, I'm planning on trying Kali on the devil one, but I'm thinking I may give my Bastet set a shot at C10. One TPA, seven combo, and a skill use lets that team put out 4m damage. I'm not sure where Shiva stacks on that, but holy hell. They've really given us some crazy beasts lately.

obryn
2015-07-27, 08:46 AM
...and now Awoken Shiva is hypermax.

Woot.

I think I'm bringing him to everything except Wadatsumi, because that might be hard with no awoken skills and a fire team. (Bestcat? Sounds right.)

obryn
2015-07-27, 09:00 AM
Yeah, I'm planning on trying Kali on the devil one, but I'm thinking I may give my Bastet set a shot at C10. One TPA, seven combo, and a skill use lets that team put out 4m damage. I'm not sure where Shiva stacks on that, but holy hell. They've really given us some crazy beasts lately.
For the Dragon one, be sure you stack any light/dark monsters far to the left. A bad Zaerog draw can ruin your day. For the Devil one, just be careful.

As for Shiva's damage, I one-shot basically everything except the water Twin (Beyzuul) and Zaerog himself because I was holding back a bit and being cautious. But yeah, millions of damage is the norm with him rather than an exception.

Oh, and I trashed Sandalphon with a Bestcat buddy, so that was fun.

Quietus
2015-07-27, 09:29 AM
For the Dragon one, be sure you stack any light/dark monsters far to the left. A bad Zaerog draw can ruin your day. For the Devil one, just be careful.

As for Shiva's damage, I one-shot basically everything except the water Twin (Beyzuul) and Zaerog himself because I was holding back a bit and being cautious. But yeah, millions of damage is the norm with him rather than an exception.

Oh, and I trashed Sandalphon with a Bestcat buddy, so that was fun.

Believe me, after the Dragon Challenge where I had Zaerog drop Light Absorb six times in a row, I know all about how attack orders work. The only dark unit on my Bestcat team is GZL, who I can easily put in #1 slot. Almost everyone else is G/G or G/R, which if I run Bestcat team and Awoken Shiva partner for Sandalphon, should work out really well. Plus GZL's slime will hit Shiva, which is nice.

::Edit:: I am slowly realizing that Bestcat may actually be more versatile than LKali, and that makes me sad.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-27, 09:42 AM
I am slowly realizing that Bestcat may actually be more versatile than LKali, and that makes me sad.

Complete color independence is the pinnacle of versatility.

Quietus
2015-07-27, 09:46 AM
Complete color independence is the pinnacle of versatility.

You aren't kidding. Of course, Kali can hit her 36x without actives, if her colors are on the board. But Bestcat has the advantage of better defensive awakenings - 100% skill lock resist and 80% poison resist is really nice. I'm amused that both of my accounts can end up running the same sorts of teams, as both accounts have LKali, Bastet, and Shiva. :smalleek:

obryn
2015-07-27, 09:53 AM
::Edit:: I am slowly realizing that Bestcat may actually be more versatile than LKali, and that makes me sad.
That's kind of where I am with Awoken Shiva, myself. Shiva and Bastet are both in the sweet spot of "able to destroy almost all content" and "really consistent". Shiva's also a lot more relaxing than Ra; I need four fire orbs and that's it. (Three fire orbs does pretty well, too, and if I don't have fire orbs, every sub on my team can get me fire orbs.) Shiva doesn't even need an active skill; the condition is "be red."

I wish I had a better set of subs for Bastet, but she still (BARELY!) beat Wadatsumi. I got saved not once but twice with skyfall hearts on U&Y because I didn't do my homework and remember to bring a heartmaker. As it stood, I used both Kushi and GG Ceres to save my bacon.

After that I'm honestly not worried about any of the other dungeons. A.Ra might not even see use this Challenge. :smalleek:

Sallera
2015-07-27, 10:08 AM
Hee. I'll probably be doing just about everything with ARa; Devil Rush was easy since it's only five floors, and the only one that might be difficult is Dragon Rush, just 'cause I'll be mostly dependent on not rolling a light absorb. I do technically have enough HP to survive Zaerog's hits, but the RCV to heal to full in between is another matter.

But I did get my last two skillups, and he also went from +0 to +120 from the weekend's farming, so the team's in pretty good shape.

obryn
2015-07-27, 10:16 AM
...Dragon Rush, just 'cause I'll be mostly dependent on not rolling a light absorb. I do technically have enough HP to survive Zaerog's hits, but the RCV to heal to full in between is another matter.
Yeah, I've survived that Zaerog with Ra; if you're unlucky enough with him, you will want two things - (1) a good defensive buff; DIzanami should probably be plenty. Kushi is fine if your timing is right. Susano is great if you can get him working by then. 100% gravity is mean. (2) A board change ready to unscrew the board after he screws it up. Oh, and if you can manage (3) a working Delay to last until his Absorb ends, you should be just fine.

If he Light Absorbs twice though, it could get hairy.

Sallera
2015-07-27, 10:41 AM
Delay's a good point, I could probably replace one of the Kalis with Echidna or mini-SQ. Probably more reliable than trying to heal through a full round of attacks, even with a DIza shield.

obryn
2015-07-27, 01:00 PM
Delay's a good point, I could probably replace one of the Kalis with Echidna or mini-SQ. Probably more reliable than trying to heal through a full round of attacks, even with a DIza shield.
Yeah, that's how I crushed him with Ra a while back. If you can delay him long enough, his absorb shield runs out and you can just smash him (assuming of course you can do enough damage, but that's easy on a light-heavy team like Ra).

Fax Celestis
2015-07-27, 01:20 PM
Oh my goddddd. Twice I've gotten to Leviathan in Hera Beorc, twice he's beaten my 80% lock resist.

I really need to awaken Perseus or get the last awakening on Leeza. Badly.

Sallera
2015-07-27, 01:35 PM
Yeah, I took multiple attempts to beat Medjed thanks to 80% lock failing me twice (and not quite managing to stall for the full 80+ turns on Isis). It'll be nice when DKali's ult gets here and gives me the last 20% (not to mention free bind clearing potential).

Quietus
2015-07-27, 02:36 PM
Yeah, I took multiple attempts to beat Medjed thanks to 80% lock failing me twice (and not quite managing to stall for the full 80+ turns on Isis). It'll be nice when DKali's ult gets here and gives me the last 20% (not to mention free bind clearing potential).

What team are you running that can stall for 99 turns, but can't make six combos? :smallconfused:

Sallera
2015-07-27, 03:05 PM
Hm? ARa team. Combo count's got nothing to do with it, but I can't activate the leader skill off an Isis board, so it's an endless stall (well, technically she'd die after 50-60 turns thanks to poke damage).

Quietus
2015-07-27, 03:08 PM
Hm? ARa team. Combo count's got nothing to do with it, but I can't activate the leader skill off an Isis board, so it's an endless stall (well, technically she'd die after 50-60 turns thanks to poke damage).

Ohh, right. No LKali or DKali? Or just figure there's no sense in burning their actives if you can't die anyway?

Sallera
2015-07-27, 03:11 PM
...skill locked. That's the problem we were talking about. :smalltongue:

Quietus
2015-07-27, 03:35 PM
...skill locked. That's the problem we were talking about. :smalltongue:

.... Well. You're right, of course. I don't know why I blanked like that. :smalltongue: I'm just so used to carrying 80%+ skill lock resist into there, I guess I didn't even think about it.

So, on that topic - does anyone think they'll give us latent awakenings for skill lock/blind/poison/jammer resist? Seems like they're aiming the latents around the point of each one being worth 1/5 of a regular awakening, so they could give us 4% resist to those effects per latent. It would make a great many cards far more viable, to effectively add an effect resist awakening to them.

Erloas
2015-07-27, 03:45 PM
I doubt it, I just don't think there is much demand for it. In most cases people ignore them except in things like skill bind where they try to make it full. A 5% chance of blind, jammer, or poison isn't really worth anything. It is rare that people take cards specifically for those things anyway.

If we're seeing more of those 100% gravities I'll probably take one common sub and put a resist of each color on it. Surviving a 99% gravity is something we're a lot more used to.

obryn
2015-07-27, 04:39 PM
I feel bad. I'm worried I chased Jurai away. :smallfrown:

Fax Celestis
2015-07-27, 04:46 PM
I feel bad. I'm worried I chased Jurai away. :smallfrown:

Well, you didn't lie, and I think that'd be worse.

EDIT: I mean i started with a terrible starter, but I also got really really really lucky in my first two godfests.

Jurai
2015-07-27, 04:58 PM
No worries, Obryn, mostly from the thread, not the game. I'm a stubborn bastage, and I like my ready to Evo golem. I got Ur-Chimera from Forced-REM, and used that for a bit.

The only reason I've been away from thread is because Borderlands 2. EXPLOSIONS? Man, now I want a Borderlands Collab.

obryn
2015-07-27, 05:18 PM
No worries, Obryn, mostly from the thread, not the game. I'm a stubborn bastage, and I like my ready to Evo golem. I got Ur-Chimera from Forced-REM, and used that for a bit.

The only reason I've been away from thread is because Borderlands 2. EXPLOSIONS? Man, now I want a Borderlands Collab.
Well that's good to know. :) hi!

Jurai
2015-07-27, 05:33 PM
So, Sapphires hits in thirty, so that's a stone, as well as some XP for my Megalodran (And by some, I mean lots. I did a Ruby Dungeon, pulled eight Rubies, one High Ruby, and one King Ruby. That jumped my FOOLISH SAMURAI OGRE from thirteen to forty-two or three).

Otravyat
2015-07-27, 10:23 PM
Well I accidentally took a couple days off from the game. Was just distracted and really tired the last couple days, so didn't feel like it. Back to the descended challenges today though. Why oh why do my badpy's have to be wadatsumi and zhao yun. My least favorite two on the entire list.

obryn
2015-07-28, 12:09 AM
Well I accidentally took a couple days off from the game. Was just distracted and really tired the last couple days, so didn't feel like it. Back to the descended challenges today though. Why oh why do my badpy's have to be wadatsumi and zhao yun. My least favorite two on the entire list.
Yeah, Wadatsumi is surprisingly rough, I have to agree. There is nothing fun or easy about that damn dungeon. The last time we had Descend Challenges, that was the only one I had to run twice. Were it not for extraordinary luck, that would have happened this time around, too.

I don't remember Zhao Yun being quite that bad? Or did I miss something?

Anarion
2015-07-28, 12:40 AM
I've done everything but Medjedra, Wadatsumi and the 99 stamina dungeons. Since I don't have Ashiva (despite seeing ~5 phoenixes today over a few runs no egg drop), I think the 99 stamina ones are beyond me. Medjedra Isis makes me want to sob uncontrollably, and Wadatsumi Leviathan is a jerk, full stop.


Yeah, Wadatsumi is surprisingly rough, I have to agree. There is nothing fun or easy about that damn dungeon. The last time we had Descend Challenges, that was the only one I had to run twice. Were it not for extraordinary luck, that would have happened this time around, too.

I don't remember Zhao Yun being quite that bad? Or did I miss something?

Zhao Yun took me three tries. The first time I get a really bad field start and had no 2-turn or less orb change, so the 99% hp cut plus random attack killed me. The second time despite 80% skill lock resist I got bound by Zhuge Liang and then the jerk had the nerve to get himself murdered by turning practically the entire field into fire orbs, so I was stuck with no skills for 3 turns while Zhao buffed himself up and started killing me.

Otravyat
2015-07-28, 03:20 AM
Yeah, Wadatsumi is surprisingly rough, I have to agree. There is nothing fun or easy about that damn dungeon. The last time we had Descend Challenges, that was the only one I had to run twice. Were it not for extraordinary luck, that would have happened this time around, too.

I don't remember Zhao Yun being quite that bad? Or did I miss something?

Took me two tries this time around for zhao Yun. I just hate green attributes. It is substantially harder for U&Y than most other top leaders.

Sallera
2015-07-28, 07:22 AM
Wada took me four tries thanks to repeated bad orbing and luck on the second floor, but I got Dragon Rush in one; delay plan worked perfectly. So that's all of them clear; I did actually end up doing everything with ARa except for Hera-B, for which I used my hack job of a GZL team. And now I have 2/9/5/0/5 spare Piis. <<;; Saving the dark ones for AHaku, probably, but the rest I have no idea.

Quietus
2015-07-28, 08:46 AM
Well, I just managed to beat Hera-Beorc challenge on my tablet! That's skill level 3 for Bastet, and she's +214 now. Feeling pretty accomplished, and I fully intend to drill down Fiend Prince next. Then I'll just need to sort out one more Woodpy and she'll be max... at which point I can move on to skilling up Marine Rider. He's just too useful. :smalltongue: It did take me two tries, Leviathan got me the first time because I got cocky and didn't make the second easy wood match I needed to drop him before he OHKO'ed me, and didn't bother using a skill to guarantee it either. I'm pretty happy so far with how that account is doing, though. Using a not-fully-leveled team of A.Bastet bookends around GZL, Marine Rider, Echidna, and ADKZ is pretty strong. I can't remember the last time I needed GZL's active.

obryn
2015-07-28, 09:14 AM
Zhao Yun took me three tries. The first time I get a really bad field start and had no 2-turn or less orb change, so the 99% hp cut plus random attack killed me. The second time despite 80% skill lock resist I got bound by Zhuge Liang and then the jerk had the nerve to get himself murdered by turning practically the entire field into fire orbs, so I was stuck with no skills for 3 turns while Zhao buffed himself up and started killing me.


Took me two tries this time around for zhao Yun. I just hate green attributes. It is substantially harder for U&Y than most other top leaders.
Fair enough. I didn't pay much attention this time around because I was just burning stuff to the ground without a care in the world. :smallwink:

Oh forgot to mention - I got my 850 day reward yesterday. Woot. Getting ready to semi-whale on a godfest. :smallbiggrin:

Quietus
2015-07-28, 09:29 AM
Fair enough. I didn't pay much attention this time around because I was just burning stuff to the ground without a care in the world. :smallwink:

Oh forgot to mention - I got my 850 day reward yesterday. Woot. Getting ready to semi-whale on a godfest. :smallbiggrin:

How many stones have you saved up? It's been a month since my last purchase on my phone, and I still have 30 or so; it helps that I got my 300 day a couple days ago. My tablet actually has more stones than my phone, at 37 right now, waiting on a Godfest during a Gala that would be particularly helpful for me. Not sure what shape that'll take, but for the time being I'm pretty solid with 350 box space and 75 friends.

Actually, with the amount of new content I'm clearing, perhaps it'll soon be time to up my box space to 400.. and approaching hypermax Bastet means I should consider upping friends to 100...

obryn
2015-07-28, 09:31 AM
I have 31 now. Honestly while I'd love an Egyptian one again (e: for Isis), I'm mostly looking for GF exclusives, so I won't be too picky.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-28, 11:06 AM
Well, I just managed to beat Hera-Beorc challenge on my tablet! That's skill level 3 for Bastet, and she's +214 now. Feeling pretty accomplished, and I fully intend to drill down Fiend Prince next. Then I'll just need to sort out one more Woodpy and she'll be max... at which point I can move on to skilling up Marine Rider. He's just too useful. :smalltongue: It did take me two tries, Leviathan got me the first time because I got cocky and didn't make the second easy wood match I needed to drop him before he OHKO'ed me, and didn't bother using a skill to guarantee it either. I'm pretty happy so far with how that account is doing, though. Using a not-fully-leveled team of A.Bastet bookends around GZL, Marine Rider, Echidna, and ADKZ is pretty strong. I can't remember the last time I needed GZL's active.

IDK which account you have him on, phone or tablet, but have you considered the applications of Apex Starling as ABastet sub?

Quietus
2015-07-28, 11:53 AM
IDK which account you have him on, phone or tablet, but have you considered the applications of Apex Starling as ABastet sub?

Starling - I completed that project, by the way, and without using any of the half-dozen bubpy I have - is on my phone, sadly. It's an interesting idea, and if he was on my tablet I'd probably look at potentially swapping him in for Echidna when the delay is unnecessary. But unfortunately for Starling, I have just so many things on my phone already that are better Bastet subs. Right now I think I'm using Verdandi/GZL/Liu Bei/Meimei, which is really ridiculously strong. I do wish I could put in a fast orb changer, I might consider swapping Sasuke in for GZL sometimes.

obryn
2015-07-28, 12:06 PM
IDK which account you have him on, phone or tablet, but have you considered the applications of Apex Starling as ABastet sub?
Looks pretty decent if you need a blue-primary sub for some specific dungeon and don't have Sun Quan. :smallsmile: The +orb awakenings are kind of wasted, but that's fine.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-28, 12:26 PM
Looks pretty decent if you need a blue-primary sub for some specific dungeon and don't have Sun Quan. :smallsmile: The +orb awakenings are kind of wasted, but that's fine.

Yeah. I was just considering the time extend + woodmake active, which meshes very fluidly with ABastet's skill-use buff. There's a number of green-sub cards that might make appreciable ABastet subs, given the right team. Apex Starling, for one, but also AHades and Cerberus Rider (2 turn skill? yzplz) immediately come to mind.

Quietus
2015-07-28, 12:49 PM
Yeah. I was just considering the time extend + woodmake active, which meshes very fluidly with ABastet's skill-use buff. There's a number of green-sub cards that might make appreciable ABastet subs, given the right team. Apex Starling, for one, but also AHades and Cerberus Rider (2 turn skill? yzplz) immediately come to mind.

Oh, don't get me wrong - I don't think Starling would make a BAD sub. Just not ideal, and I have a pretty solid selection of ideal subs on my phone. Cerberus Rider would be incredible for her team for certain dungeons, too.. being able to straight pick off annoying targets would be very very nice. I'll probably want something like that if I ever end up farming Fagan again, for instance.

Anarion
2015-07-28, 05:12 PM
I just realized something. An invade in Kaguya-Hime is full on broken as hell BS. Awoken skills invalid and no rcv means Haku is guaranteed 5 turns to just pound on you unless you've got the power just on leader skill to kill her without accidentally pushing her into star formation.

Levictus
2015-07-28, 05:34 PM
Pulled on the special PEM and got the last red orb I needed to evo my alt Shiva. Then threw him my +297 and flampy I had sitting in my bank! Now a proud owner of A.Shiva, +297 sl2 :smallsmile:

http://i.imgur.com/JYs3Fuhh.jpg

Can anyone who has A.Shiva refresh him for me? I'd like to try give him a whirl and sadly, none of my friends have one up :smalleek:

Edit: That being said, if someone wouldn't mind sharing a few A.Shiva friends with me I'd be crazy appreciative!

Otravyat
2015-07-28, 08:46 PM
Pulled on the special PEM and got the last red orb I needed to evo my alt Shiva. Then threw him my +297 and flampy I had sitting in my bank! Now a proud owner of A.Shiva, +297 sl2 :smallsmile:

http://i.imgur.com/JYs3Fuhh.jpg

Can anyone who has A.Shiva refresh him for me? I'd like to try give him a whirl and sadly, none of my friends have one up :smalleek:

Edit: That being said, if someone wouldn't mind sharing a few A.Shiva friends with me I'd be crazy appreciative!

I cant believe you have the patience to +297 a minion to then be able to feed away later. I don't have anywhere near that level of self control I like immediate gratification...

Quietus
2015-07-28, 08:55 PM
Pulled on the special PEM and got the last red orb I needed to evo my alt Shiva. Then threw him my +297 and flampy I had sitting in my bank! Now a proud owner of A.Shiva, +297 sl2 :smallsmile:

http://i.imgur.com/JYs3Fuhh.jpg

Can anyone who has A.Shiva refresh him for me? I'd like to try give him a whirl and sadly, none of my friends have one up :smalleek:

Edit: That being said, if someone wouldn't mind sharing a few A.Shiva friends with me I'd be crazy appreciative!

Congratulations, that's awesome! +297 A.Shiva friends :

332.636.322 (slvl max)
357.549.260 (slvl max)
330.173.260 (slvl1)


I cant believe you have the patience to +297 a minion to then be able to feed away later. I don't have anywhere near that level of self control I like immediate gratification...

Yeah, I look forward to the day I can do that. I'm busy hypermaxing an entire team, however, so the day I can save my plusses is a long way off. :smalltongue:

On that note, I have max skilled Goemon, Bastet, and Arthur today. Very happy about this! Working my way through the challenges slowly, I've hit most of them, including doing dragon rush with Bastet earlier. Couple hairy moments, but I got it done.

Otravyat
2015-07-28, 10:10 PM
Yeah, I look forward to the day I can do that. I'm busy hypermaxing an entire team, however, so the day I can save my plusses is a long way off. :smalltongue:


I don't think Levi has a full 297 team, so it really is discipline.

Quietus
2015-07-28, 10:37 PM
I don't think Levi has a full 297 team, so it really is discipline.

Ah, fair. Also, news : I just beat Fiend Prince on my tablet! Got both woodpy from this Challenge, my Bastet is skill level 4. One more to max!

Fax Celestis
2015-07-28, 10:53 PM
Giving up on Hera Beorc, just getting too frustrated with it.

Spent one stone today after I burned through 150 stamina in about ten minutes on failed Beorc attempts. Frustrated. Went back to egg farming. +14 so far and I just ranked up. I've put +70 on Lu Bu this event alone.

obryn
2015-07-28, 11:23 PM
Pulled on the special PEM and got the last red orb I needed to evo my alt Shiva. Then threw him my +297 and flampy I had sitting in my bank! Now a proud owner of A.Shiva, +297 sl2 :smallsmile:

http://i.imgur.com/JYs3Fuhh.jpg

Can anyone who has A.Shiva refresh him for me? I'd like to try give him a whirl and sadly, none of my friends have one up :smalleek:

Edit: That being said, if someone wouldn't mind sharing a few A.Shiva friends with me I'd be crazy appreciative!
Awoken Shiva is freaking intense. If you haven't used your BFF, fyi, I have mine in Slot 2, with A.Ra cozy in Slot 1. But mine's up allll the time.

304,751,299
371,840,208
358,444,231
378,652,237
312,485,232
396,648,264
374,244,275
386,192,275
343,719,336
367,340,320
391,991,283
370,217,383
315,847,299
332,636,322
356,111,324

I have 16 more that aren't 297 if you need more... He's suddenly very popular and finally taking over the pages of Ronias. :smallbiggrin:



357.549.260 (slvl max)

:waves: (is not a smiley on this forum)

Quietus
2015-07-28, 11:23 PM
Giving up on Hera Beorc, just getting too frustrated with it.

Spent one stone today after I burned through 150 stamina in about ten minutes on failed Beorc attempts. Frustrated. Went back to egg farming. +14 so far and I just ranked up. I've put +70 on Lu Bu this event alone.

Damn, yeah, this is such a good event. I'm not sure what I'll do tomorrow, now that I've finished the big ticket stuff in the challenges for my tablet. I should probably collect the PAL points (still seeking gold keeper...), and get the +9 Tamadra, because that's a great stamina investment. Beyond that, not sure. I could farm some valks for skill ups, and try to get a red jewel in the process maybe? I need ten of the stupid things, if I'm going to get everything I want. Hera-Ur, Awoken Shiva, the starters, Goemon, Kali... Goemon is absolutely my top priority there.

obryn
2015-07-28, 11:32 PM
I don't think Levi has a full 297 team, so it really is discipline.
Neither do I. I enjoy using various teams too much. Though until I get an LKali, I don't know that I'll be 297'ing any more subs for my Ra team. My Shiva subs, on the other hand, are a lot more constant, and I think I'll hypermax either Urd or CaoCao once I get done with A.Kagu.

Otravyat
2015-07-28, 11:35 PM
Wadatsumi downed easily with Hathor! I could stall indefinitely on the boss, until 25% health, so I just whittled him to 50%, used Kirin and Hathorx2 gravities, and smashed with Valk+YomiCTW.

Fax Celestis
2015-07-28, 11:50 PM
Correction, +85, to a total of +187 now. Bed calls, then possibly more egg farming tomorrow.

Sallera
2015-07-29, 05:04 AM
Wadatsumi downed easily with Hathor! I could stall indefinitely on the boss, until 25% health, so I just whittled him to 50%, used Kirin and Hathorx2 gravities, and smashed with Valk+YomiCTW.
Ahaha, nice.

Correction, +85, to a total of +187 now. Bed calls, then possibly more egg farming tomorrow.
Yesss, +egg farming. I'm really hoping I can finish ARa before the event ends; +184 so far, but it's really eating into my time. :smalltongue: